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Godless: How an Evangelical Preacher Became One of America's Leading Atheists
by
Dan Barker,
Richard Dawkins (Goodreads Author)
ADVANCE PRAISE FOR GODLESS
�Valuable in the human story are the reflections of intelligent and ethical people who listen to the voice of reason and who allow it to vanquish bigotry and superstition. This book is a classic example.”
—CHRISTOPHER HITCHENS author of God is Not Great
�The most eloquent witness of internal delusion that I know—a triumphantly smiling refugee from t...more
�Valuable in the human story are the reflections of intelligent and ethical people who listen to the voice of reason and who allow it to vanquish bigotry and superstition. This book is a classic example.”
—CHRISTOPHER HITCHENS author of God is Not Great
�The most eloquent witness of internal delusion that I know—a triumphantly smiling refugee from t...more
Paperback, 392 pages
Published
September 1st 2008
by Ulysses Press
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I'm closing in on having read all the major atheist books in existence, I think. Out of all of them, this is the only one so far offering an inside look at the evolutionary process of a fundamentalist evangelical Christian into a hardened atheist who eats children and celebrates Halloween twice a year. Deconversion stories all seem to share a common narrative arch––the most important aspect of which is a period of glaring ignorance and indoctrination followed by an awakening of the mind to other...more
This was a phenomenal read. Barker is articulate, intelligent, witty and immensely likable. His deconversion from fundamentalist preacher to staunch atheist comes across as honest (not to mention the only logical conclusion when someone is sincerely seeking truth). I have nothing but admiration for someone who is able to let go of a fallacious belief when faced with overwhelming evidence that it is wrong. I wish more people would have the courage to ask questions and seek out a similar path for...more
Now, here's a book that's very hard to rate objectively. I liked a lot of it, mostly the parts where Barker told about his own life: the struggles with Christianity, becoming atheist, and then living as an atheist.
When he criticizes Christianity, things get a bit more complicated. I agree with a lot, maybe even most of his arguments, but it's all about a fundamentalist approach to Bible and other Christian doctrines. In fact a lot of his reasoning is exactly the same as what has been said by "li...more
When he criticizes Christianity, things get a bit more complicated. I agree with a lot, maybe even most of his arguments, but it's all about a fundamentalist approach to Bible and other Christian doctrines. In fact a lot of his reasoning is exactly the same as what has been said by "li...more
I found this book fascinating for the simple reason that the author's experience mimicked so much my own. I may not have been an evangelical preacher, as the author was, but I was about as devout a Mormon as one could be when, in the '80s (and I in my 30s and a mother of six), I came to the painful realization that I did not really believe it all and left my church. It was, without equal, the most painful episode of my life; and in time, I believe, the most liberating for myself and my family. A...more
This is partly an autobiography, and partly a philosophical treatise.
As autobiography, Godless is very interesting, as Barker admits he's had "religious experiences" and what believers would call a "personal relationship with God" but Barker is able to give a coherent and convincing account of how these experiences are natural, rather than supernatural.
As a treatise, Barker does a great job summarizing a large number of arguments for the existence of God and exposing the logical they rest on....more
As autobiography, Godless is very interesting, as Barker admits he's had "religious experiences" and what believers would call a "personal relationship with God" but Barker is able to give a coherent and convincing account of how these experiences are natural, rather than supernatural.
As a treatise, Barker does a great job summarizing a large number of arguments for the existence of God and exposing the logical they rest on....more
The power of Barker’s Godless is in its behind-the-scenes focus on what happens when an honest preacher figures out that his sermons are dishonest. As Barker puts it, Godless shows what happens when a believer loses faith in faith.
Barker began his career as an evangelical minister when he was fifteen years old. He attended a Bible college, married a Christian woman, and spawned four children, all the while figuring out ways to scrape out a living by freelance preaching and composing songs of wor...more
Barker began his career as an evangelical minister when he was fifteen years old. He attended a Bible college, married a Christian woman, and spawned four children, all the while figuring out ways to scrape out a living by freelance preaching and composing songs of wor...more
Dan Barker is a likable author with a fascinating story to tell, as a former evangelical pastor turned non-theist/agnostic.
In telling his journey, Barker presents arguments that are well stated, well researched, clear, and very thought provoking. His writing style invokes sincerity and humor into an often emotionally charged topic.
A recommended read for anyone questioning their faith in a god, who wants to fairly look at the many sides of the question in light of facts rather than emotion, ad ho...more
In telling his journey, Barker presents arguments that are well stated, well researched, clear, and very thought provoking. His writing style invokes sincerity and humor into an often emotionally charged topic.
A recommended read for anyone questioning their faith in a god, who wants to fairly look at the many sides of the question in light of facts rather than emotion, ad ho...more
My holiday reading was Godless: How An Evangelical Preacher Became One of America’s Leading Atheists by Dan Barker. I had travelled a similar journey (albeit in a less publicised way). Having made the change from being an evangelical leader, preacher, counsellor, and author (for over 30 years) to an unashamed, blogging atheist, I thought it would be interesting to read the human story. I wondered how far Barker’s experience would parallel my own, and if his analysis of his change would help me s...more
I started reading this out of curiosity because I'm very interested in how people view the world. I expected this to be a bit more...open to ideas? Maybe that was ignorant of me, after all, it is a book about firmly believing in the nonexistence of God. And I don't have anything against atheists, I'm not so sure what I believe myself. But I will say this: full blown atheism is just as extreme, even if it is at the opposite end of the spectrum, as fundamentalist Christians, Muslims, etc. I just c...more
The subtitle is rather misleading, as the "how" can basically be boiled down to "I started reading things other than the Bible," while the rest of the book’s 360 pages is devoted to attacks on theism. Using logical arguments (pointing out discrepancies and contradictions in Biblical teaching; arguing that by definition God cannot be timeless, nor can a god be both infinitely merciful and infinitely powerful), moral arguments (citing the many barbarous acts the Bible condones), and linguistic arg...more
I am agnostic at best, but I don't think I would like Dan Barker very much in real life. He seems to be one of those people who always think that what they think is right and brilliant, and they need to tell you all about it, and try to convince you to believe it too. His journey -- which sounds far but maybe was not so much -- was from being an evangelistic Christian preacher to being an evangelistic atheist, aggressively promoting his beliefs in either guise. He delights in describing how succ...more
Awful. Complete drivel. Do not read. I have no idea why this is so popular.
For being the president of the Freedom From Religion Foundation, Dan Barker is an incredibly poor writer. I hope, for everyone's sake, he is a better orator.
This book chronicles, as the title implies, the transition of an evangelical minister from fundamentalist Christianity to outspoken atheism. As he tells it in this book, the story went like this:
1) Was raised fundamentalist Christian. Father was a pastor. Did mission...more
For being the president of the Freedom From Religion Foundation, Dan Barker is an incredibly poor writer. I hope, for everyone's sake, he is a better orator.
This book chronicles, as the title implies, the transition of an evangelical minister from fundamentalist Christianity to outspoken atheism. As he tells it in this book, the story went like this:
1) Was raised fundamentalist Christian. Father was a pastor. Did mission...more
I have a lot of mixed feelings about this book.
First of all, what is a leading atheist? I never knew we had a vote. Since I'm more of an agnostic dabbling in the philosophical side of Buddhism, I may not have been eligible to vote. Being a leading freethinker makes sense since it implies an interest in freedom of speech and fighting for the choice to think for oneself, which Barker does admirably. But a leading atheist? That sounds a little forced to me, not to mention egotistical.
Second, Dan B...more
First of all, what is a leading atheist? I never knew we had a vote. Since I'm more of an agnostic dabbling in the philosophical side of Buddhism, I may not have been eligible to vote. Being a leading freethinker makes sense since it implies an interest in freedom of speech and fighting for the choice to think for oneself, which Barker does admirably. But a leading atheist? That sounds a little forced to me, not to mention egotistical.
Second, Dan B...more
I found myself identifying heavily with Mr. Barker and appreciating what he had to say about the difficult struggle of losing one's faith and becoming atheist. Barker manages to keep the tone hopeful and presents a compelling case for atheism both from a rationalist standpoint as well as a moral one. The weakest part for me was the chapter where he spends a long time arguing on why there could not be a god who is omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent all at once. That kind of e...more
a must read for anyone who is curious, questioning, or just looking for a different perspective about god! really one of the best, most informative books i've ever read! barker comes at the subject from such a unique angle - for most of his life, he was a true believer, an evangelical preacher who traveled the world preaching the gospel and trying to convert people to christianity. he started at just 15 years old. but in his early 30's, he started meeting people that had slightly more liberal (t...more
Oct 29, 2011
Steve Van Slyke
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4 of 5 stars
Recommends it for:
Deconversion fans and Bible debaters
Recommended to Steve by:
Amazon
Shelves:
skepticism,
kindle
This could have easily been divided (and expanded) into two books, and that would have been an improvement for me. One “book”, or theme, was of the author's amazing journey from fundamentalist, evangelistic, Christian preacher, to evangelistic atheist. The other theme/book was about the Bible, it's discrepancies, errors and contradictions, and the historical status of Jesus. Of course the two are related and intertwined, and both themes would be touched on in either book. However, I felt that at...more
I have mixed feelings about this book. Part 1 of the book entitled "Rejecting God" is the most interesting as it is the author's personal story of his journey from fundamentalist Christianity to atheism.
Part 2, "Why I am an atheist" is very dense and philosophical - and I appreciated some of Baker's arguments and critiques regarding God and the various arguments often offered for God's existence by Christian apologists - some of which are clearly wanting.
Part 3, "What's wrong with Christianity?"...more
Part 2, "Why I am an atheist" is very dense and philosophical - and I appreciated some of Baker's arguments and critiques regarding God and the various arguments often offered for God's existence by Christian apologists - some of which are clearly wanting.
Part 3, "What's wrong with Christianity?"...more
This book was pretty darn good. The reason it gets four instead of five stars is that he sort of glosses over a few arguments in the later chapters that he either could have omitted altogether or expounded upon. As it stands, a few of the things of which he does not go into very much depth felt understated and brought the pace and academic tone a little down. If he'd gone deeper, the book would have been more consistent. If he'd skipped them, the book would not have suffered, since the book is h...more
Good book! Dan Barker's experiences as a former evangelical preacher turned atheist are very eye-opening. It is definitely interesting to see what he & possibly other preachers/former preachers who go through/have gone through this might think & experience. Definitely enjoyed reading about his experiences more than anything else in the book. I think just about anyone could relate in a variety of ways. Good read.
"'Isn't atheism just another religion?' No, it isn't. Atheism has no creeds,...more
"'Isn't atheism just another religion?' No, it isn't. Atheism has no creeds,...more
I found this book fascinating. Barker's personal story of his time as a Christian, followed by his deconversion is powerful on a human/personal level. Later in the book he methodically deconstructs faith, primarily Christianity. His presentation does not come across as combative, which helps his argument stay on course. His whole point is that theism, belief in a god, is myth fraudulently created by mankind. Christianity is the myth he (and the vast majority of his readers) are most familiar wit...more
Before reading this book, I thought I had a pretty good grasp on what parts of the Bible I disagreed with. Reading this book opened my eyes. The Bible is great for understanding certain ancient cultures and myths, but it is NOT a good source for finding one's morals. There are just too many things that the God of the Bible does, says or tells others to do that would not be tolerated in todays modern societies. Then there's the endless contradictions, lack of historical evidence, bad science, etc...more
A well told, fascinating story of an evangelical preacher turned atheist. Barker begins by detailing his journey in the first half of the book, followed with the philosophical problems of the existence of god, and finishes with his critiques of Christianity.
The critiques and arguments he presents in the book are well stated, clear, and thought provoking. This is a great alternative to books such as "The God Delusion," especially for those who prefer a tad less venom in their reasonings for a go...more
The critiques and arguments he presents in the book are well stated, clear, and thought provoking. This is a great alternative to books such as "The God Delusion," especially for those who prefer a tad less venom in their reasonings for a go...more
May 07, 2010
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For twenty years, Dan Barker was an Evangelical proselytizer and song writer, traveling the world and passionately preaching the Gospel with unquestioning faith. One day while driving his car, he followed what he thought was the voice of God, turning right and left on a twisting back road—and he ended up at a dead-end in the middle of a cornfield. This pivotal moment was the beginning of Barker’s arduous journey from faith-based spiritual living to logic- and reason-driven freethinking. In his 2...more
This isn't the best book on the subject that I have read, but I must say that I rather enjoyed it. I particularly enjoyed the first third, which is autobiographical, and the chapter on bible contradictions. I felt as though the last two thirds of the book didn't quite have as clear a target as the first third, but I still found it well worth the read. As someone who has never really believed in gods, I found the author's willingness to express his previous experiences quite interesting. for exam...more
Absolutely fantastic. A thoroughly enjoyable read. Mr. Barker takes you through a personal journey to freethinking. My only question, Mr. Barker what took you so long???
I'm an avid reader and I can honestly say that this is one of the best books ever written about this topic. It's freethinking at is best, Mr. Barker's clear intellect is displayed for all to enjoy.
Positives:
1. Interesting transformation to Atheism
2. Well written, eloquence throughout
3. Well organized
4. Well informed
5. Good...more
I'm an avid reader and I can honestly say that this is one of the best books ever written about this topic. It's freethinking at is best, Mr. Barker's clear intellect is displayed for all to enjoy.
Positives:
1. Interesting transformation to Atheism
2. Well written, eloquence throughout
3. Well organized
4. Well informed
5. Good...more
I am a former fundamentalist.
I grew up in a fundamentalist Christian home, with both Baptist and Pentecostal influences. As such, I had what is commonly known as “spiritual” experiences during my years as a “born again” Christian and it is something that for many years I’ve struggled to come to terms with. One of the reasons that being a former Fundamentalist is so difficult is that I rarely meet anyone who has left that faith, and who can understand and share what I feel concerning the subject....more
I grew up in a fundamentalist Christian home, with both Baptist and Pentecostal influences. As such, I had what is commonly known as “spiritual” experiences during my years as a “born again” Christian and it is something that for many years I’ve struggled to come to terms with. One of the reasons that being a former Fundamentalist is so difficult is that I rarely meet anyone who has left that faith, and who can understand and share what I feel concerning the subject....more
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I didn't actually finish this, but I want to keep it in my list to help me remember that I gave it a shot. I was hoping it would be more autobiographical, but it turned out to be mostly 'nontract'-ish. I don't need to be convinced that atheism is a sensible choice; I'm all set in that department. And I don't intend to try to deconvert any believers, just as I would prefer that no one try to convert me. So all the non-autobiographical material held no appeal for me. For better or for worse, I hav...more
The breathtaking and inspirational tale of Dan Barker, the fundamentalist Christian "soul winner" (as he put it) turned atheist. Beginning as an in-depth biography, Barker guides us through his youth where he decides to become an evangelist, his travels as a street-preacher, and his career as a song-writer up until he slowly comes to the painful yet liberating realization that there is no god. Barker then explains the philosophical and scientific problems with god and debunks the alleged inerran...more
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