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Lords and Ladies (Discworld #14)
'When you start believing in Spirits, you start believing in demons, and then before you know where you are, you're believing in Gods. And then you're in trouble.'
Reality is all very well in small doses. It's a perfectly conventional and convenient way of neutralising the imagination. But sometimes when there's more than one reality at play, imagination just won't be neutr...more
Reality is all very well in small doses. It's a perfectly conventional and convenient way of neutralising the imagination. But sometimes when there's more than one reality at play, imagination just won't be neutr...more
Paperback, 400 pages
Published
August 1st 2005
by Corgi
(first published 1992)
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Ah ha! I now see why my better read Pratchett friends consider Magrat Garlick to be a worthy sort. After this book, I shall have to consider dropping the "wet hen" label for Magrat (no promises). Perhaps that is what this addition to the Discworld universe is really about: getting past our foolish preconceptions.
I really enjoyed the spin Pratchett gave to elves, casting them as glamour encased, selfish, superficial beings. And the fact that he also portrayed the average human as a deluded, star-...more
I really enjoyed the spin Pratchett gave to elves, casting them as glamour encased, selfish, superficial beings. And the fact that he also portrayed the average human as a deluded, star-...more
i agree wholeheartedly, this is my FAVORITE of the Witch series. I love Granny v Lily in "Witches Abroad," but if you delighted in Mrs. Weasley gettin all Sigourney Weaver on Bellatrix L in the last Harry Potter, YOU'LL LOVE the whole last third of the book. i squirmed with glee as soon as Magrat put on that armor. the principle of a cat in a box being any of 3 various states till you open the box: alive, dead, bloody pissed off is all i know about physics, or need to know.
In my last review I admitted that I was a big fan of re-contextualised mythology, and I think anyone who has any interest in fantasy will find that they are too.
In Lords and Ladies, Pratchett re-draws the boundaries where elves are concerned. Trying to push the fae folk back from Tolkien's ("pretty = lovely") vision towards their German/Scandinavian folkloric roots ("pretty = dangerous") is -to this day- an almost entirely unique direction to head in, and an interesting one. After all, people ar...more
In Lords and Ladies, Pratchett re-draws the boundaries where elves are concerned. Trying to push the fae folk back from Tolkien's ("pretty = lovely") vision towards their German/Scandinavian folkloric roots ("pretty = dangerous") is -to this day- an almost entirely unique direction to head in, and an interesting one. After all, people ar...more
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Originally published on my blog here in July 2001.
The third novel to feature the coven of witches from the Discworld kingdom of Lancre follows on directly from Witches Abroad, as the three of them return home so that Magrat can marry the king. All is not well, however, as the sinister elves are trying to take advantage of a weakness in the fabric between worlds to attack the Discworld from which they were excluded centuries earlier. (Elves here are not the noble and beautiful creatures you might...more
The third novel to feature the coven of witches from the Discworld kingdom of Lancre follows on directly from Witches Abroad, as the three of them return home so that Magrat can marry the king. All is not well, however, as the sinister elves are trying to take advantage of a weakness in the fabric between worlds to attack the Discworld from which they were excluded centuries earlier. (Elves here are not the noble and beautiful creatures you might...more
I loved this book. It's Pratchett. If you don't know what that means, you just need to read one to understand it.
Pratchett books always have lots of pop culture, science and literature references. There's introspection on life and everything in it, from creaking doors to societal oppression and stereotypes. It's witty and funny, with jokes from high brow to low. He certainly has a writing style, like the Elves, witches or cats. Especially like Greebo the Cat who hunts wolves and Nanny Ogg, the...more
Pratchett books always have lots of pop culture, science and literature references. There's introspection on life and everything in it, from creaking doors to societal oppression and stereotypes. It's witty and funny, with jokes from high brow to low. He certainly has a writing style, like the Elves, witches or cats. Especially like Greebo the Cat who hunts wolves and Nanny Ogg, the...more
Lords and Ladies is one of my favorite Discworld novels. Although it's full of top-flight Pratchett punnery and humor, it is also a brilliant dark fantasy that turns genre conventions upside down while mocking and paying homage to Shakespeare. Rather like Susanna Clarke's Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell, Pratchett turns to earlier traditions of elves and fairies instead of Tolkienian or pulp-fantasy tropes. There are numerous references to the very dark elven ballads of Tam Lin, Thomas the Rhyme...more
Like any Prachett book, this book is an amazingly fun read. Pratchett's sense of humor always leaves me in stitches and I rarely find myself skimming any portion of his books. There really isn't much I can say about this book that can't be applied to every Discworld book out there. The characters are fun and feel like people, the world has little curiosities thrown through it and it takes a classic element of fantasy literature and reexamines it.
In this case it was the elves. Instead of the tree...more
In this case it was the elves. Instead of the tree...more
Елфи сеят ужас в “Господари и господарки” на Пратчет
http://www.knigolandia.info/2010/10/b...
Те чакат. Живеят в приказния си безвременен свят и знаят, че рано или късно преградите ще изтънеят достатъчно, за да се завърнат на Диска. Където всичко е позволено и колкото то е по-жестоко, толкова по-добре. Господарите и господарките чакат. Както ловецът чака плячката си. Елфическото време отново ще дойде…
Пратчет смело сграбчва легендите за приказните елфи и ги преобръща с хастара навън. В неговия свя...more
http://www.knigolandia.info/2010/10/b...
Те чакат. Живеят в приказния си безвременен свят и знаят, че рано или късно преградите ще изтънеят достатъчно, за да се завърнат на Диска. Където всичко е позволено и колкото то е по-жестоко, толкова по-добре. Господарите и господарките чакат. Както ловецът чака плячката си. Елфическото време отново ще дойде…
Пратчет смело сграбчва легендите за приказните елфи и ги преобръща с хастара навън. В неговия свя...more
Once upon a time, my boyfriend and I carpooled on a commute that was 1.5 hours plus each way. I don't drive, so I provided the read-aloud entertainment. We got through about a book a month.
. . .and then I got a different job, and we stopped carpooling, and our read-alouds ground to an almost complete halt, revived only on long road trips. If I remember right, we'd started this book right before I switched jobs, which means we've been working on it for over a year and a half. Finally done!
Oh, but...more
. . .and then I got a different job, and we stopped carpooling, and our read-alouds ground to an almost complete halt, revived only on long road trips. If I remember right, we'd started this book right before I switched jobs, which means we've been working on it for over a year and a half. Finally done!
Oh, but...more
I love Pratchett's spin on fantasy. He takes a well-known faerie tale (elves) and shines a totally different light on them:
"Elves are wonderful. They provoke wonder.
Elves are marvellous. They cause marvels.
Elves are fantastic. They create fantasies.
Elves are glamorous. They project glamour.
Elves are enchanting. They weave enchantment.
Elves are terrific. They beget terror.
The thing about words is that meanings can twist just like a snake, and if you want to find snakes look for them behind...more
"Elves are wonderful. They provoke wonder.
Elves are marvellous. They cause marvels.
Elves are fantastic. They create fantasies.
Elves are glamorous. They project glamour.
Elves are enchanting. They weave enchantment.
Elves are terrific. They beget terror.
The thing about words is that meanings can twist just like a snake, and if you want to find snakes look for them behind...more
You can read more reviews on my blog, The Armchair Librarian.
Faeries and elves, like vampires, have been ruined by what serves as vogue in current YA mythology (with few exceptions). Faeries are effing creepy. They steal you away and replace you with evil faerie copies (changelings), or they might keep you around as a plaything until it's time to send you to hell (tithes). Faeries, in short, love screwing with humans.
Lords and Ladies pokes fun at the "Oh, but they're just a bunch of harmless tin...more
Faeries and elves, like vampires, have been ruined by what serves as vogue in current YA mythology (with few exceptions). Faeries are effing creepy. They steal you away and replace you with evil faerie copies (changelings), or they might keep you around as a plaything until it's time to send you to hell (tithes). Faeries, in short, love screwing with humans.
Lords and Ladies pokes fun at the "Oh, but they're just a bunch of harmless tin...more
HERE THERE BE A MILD SPOILER:
This may be my new favorite Discworld book, and that's saying something. Then again, I am a complete and utter sucker chump for all things Granny Weatherwax, and that's that.
HERE THERE BE POSSIBLE SPOILERS I DUNNO READ AT YOUR OWN RISK.
Other people would probably say: I wasn't myself. But Granny Weatherwax didn't have anyone else to be. (p. 53, 18%)
This may be my new favorite Discworld book, and that's saying something. Then again, I am a complete and utter sucker chump for all things Granny Weatherwax, and that's that.
HERE THERE BE POSSIBLE SPOILERS I DUNNO READ AT YOUR OWN RISK.
...more
"I don't hold with paddlin' with the occult," said Granny firmly. "Once you start paddlin' with the occult you start bel
Jun 23, 2012
David
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3 of 5 stars
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review of another edition
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As a character, Granny Weatherwax first appeared in the third Discworld novel Equal Rites, which was about, well, Equal Rights for both sexes. She then re-appeared (and beacem the unofficial head of her coven) in both Wyrd Sisters (where the broad outline of the plot bears a striking resemblance to certain Scottish play) and Witches Abroad (fairytales as you've never heard them before!). This is thus the fourth Discworld novel to include her as a main character, this time taking its inspiration...more
Another very good entry in the Discworld series. Pratchett takes on elves, bees, magnets, quantum physics, and A Midsummer Night's Dream in a novel mostly starring the witches of Lancre. This wasn't one of my favorites, but it was quite funny and was a great quick read. Nanny Ogg and Granny Weatherwax are two of the best characters in any of Pratchett's work, and they are supported by a pretty good cast of secondary characters too. I was pleasantly surprised by Magrat here - she's been a good ch...more
#14 in publication order in the humorous fantasy Discworld series. We're once again back in Lancre with Granny Weatherwax, Nanny Ogg and...well, Magrat Garlick used to be the third member of their witches' coven until King Verence proposed. Now she's Queen-in-waiting, planning her wedding and bored silly, so not able to help much when Granny and Nanny make their plans to take on the Lords and Ladies--the elves--who are trying to get through to this dimension through a stone circle in the Ramtops...more
Have you read this book before? If it was Moving Pictures then yes, you quite nearly have. Like the events of its predecessor, the Disc is again threatened from creatures living where the curtains between realities are worn a bit thin. Like Moving Pictures, the wizards make a large, comic, and generally ineffectual muddle of it all -- except for the Librarian, of course, who alone of the faculty keeps control. Unlike the other book, though, this has witches and witchy-related mayhem cover-to-cov...more
Books like 'Lords and ladies' are the reason why I seem to return to Pratchett's universe time and time again. You can always count on this author to produce something new with his already established character sets and settings...and that's a fantastic draw.
I won't go into summary for the plot or story. There are tens of reviews written already that have that covered...so I'll just justify those 5 marks up there. And since I feel I'll be adding this to any review I write, the stars do not repr...more
I won't go into summary for the plot or story. There are tens of reviews written already that have that covered...so I'll just justify those 5 marks up there. And since I feel I'll be adding this to any review I write, the stars do not repr...more
Jul 12, 2012
Sarah
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4 of 5 stars
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Lords and Ladies is the second discworld novel originally published in 1992. Overall, it's the 14th book, and the fourth from the witches storyline.
The first thing that surprised me here was that it does, in a way, stand on it's own, but there is a review of former books, especially Witches Abroad, the previous witches novel. Lords and Ladies picks up the story of Granny Weatherwax, Nanny Ogg and Magrat Garlick at their arrival in Lancre, when Magrat is informed that she will be married to King...more
The first thing that surprised me here was that it does, in a way, stand on it's own, but there is a review of former books, especially Witches Abroad, the previous witches novel. Lords and Ladies picks up the story of Granny Weatherwax, Nanny Ogg and Magrat Garlick at their arrival in Lancre, when Magrat is informed that she will be married to King...more
This was always one of my favourite Pratchett books; indeed, I read it over and over again as a kid. Reading it again now is a glorious pleasure.
It includes all my favourite aspects of the Discworld - the Witches, folklore, Ridcully, the people of Lancre... and Elves. When I first read Lords and Ladies I was also obsessed with another book about the Fair Folk - Faeries by Brian Froud and Alan Lee. The two books combined introduced me to the idea of elves being sinister, alien creatures, and I a...more
It includes all my favourite aspects of the Discworld - the Witches, folklore, Ridcully, the people of Lancre... and Elves. When I first read Lords and Ladies I was also obsessed with another book about the Fair Folk - Faeries by Brian Froud and Alan Lee. The two books combined introduced me to the idea of elves being sinister, alien creatures, and I a...more
My first Terry Pratchett book - good stuff! A tad confusing in the beginning to get into for me, but no surprise as this is part of a series I just kinda dove into.
A couple things:
"People think that they live life as a moving dot traveling from the Past into the Future, with memory streaming out behind them like some kind of mental cometary tail. But memory spreads out in front as well as behind. It's just that most humans aren't food at dealing with it, and so it arrives as premonitions, forebo...more
A couple things:
"People think that they live life as a moving dot traveling from the Past into the Future, with memory streaming out behind them like some kind of mental cometary tail. But memory spreads out in front as well as behind. It's just that most humans aren't food at dealing with it, and so it arrives as premonitions, forebo...more
So you thought the elves were fun, if a little tricksy, did you? It takes all three of Lancre's witches to send them back where they belong and even they need the help of the local morris dancers, "our Sean" who is a castle guard, "our Jason" who is the local blacksmith, and the elven queen's husband. Elves will take everything and leave you only fear. They have no emotions, particularly no compassion and anything they don't take they'll ruin.
A quote:" Elves are wonderful. They provoke wonder.
E...more
A quote:" Elves are wonderful. They provoke wonder.
E...more
I’m at Terry Prachett again because I just can’t help myself. I’m busy as a bird dog these days, and escaping from it all right before I go to sleep is the aim with my reading time. So I take a world where the best librarian is an orangutan, and that gets me pretty far. Lords and Ladies is a lovely little book about some pretty evil entities: FAIRIES. These are not the nice little buggers with wings who grant wishes. These are nasty creatures, goblins, really (except Prachett fans will tell you...more
I always enjoy Granny Weatherwax, and this ran a Shakespearean underplot, but while it had its moments, it it seemed to drag a bit. Maybe my life got in the way a bit. My biggest complaint is that Pratchett's weakness seems to be writing action scenes. Everytime some real action happens, it hard to follow who's doing and saying what. He's better at building up slow parodies, I guess.
An author’s note, which the Kindle edition unhelpfully puts at the end, identifies this book as the third in a sequence beginning with Wyrd Sisters and continuing in Witches Abroad, but I didn’t feel any more out of the loop than I have reading other Discworld books out of order. It does seem as though Lords and Ladies has a higher quotient of contrived jokes, starting with the basic situation that reworks Midsummer Night’s Dream with the wedding uniting a king who used to be a Fool and a queen...more
The gals have been gone a while, and lots of things can happen in eight month's time.
Magrat is still planning to marry the new king (and former fool) of Lancre, and anyone who's everyone will be attending the Royal Wedding, including our favorite Librarian. (If only they can get him to put on some clothes...)
But wait...strange things are happening. (Well, stranger things than the strange things that normally happen in Discworld.)
Even the bees are worried.
Granny Weatherwax is reunited with an ol...more
Magrat is still planning to marry the new king (and former fool) of Lancre, and anyone who's everyone will be attending the Royal Wedding, including our favorite Librarian. (If only they can get him to put on some clothes...)
But wait...strange things are happening. (Well, stranger things than the strange things that normally happen in Discworld.)
Even the bees are worried.
Granny Weatherwax is reunited with an ol...more
The fourteenth Discworld novel is a direct sequel to Witches Abroad, taking place immediately after the events of the previous book. Magrat Garlick receives a marriage proposal from King Verence, but the proceedings are threatened by the appearance of a sinister band of elves, so it is up to Granny Weatherwax, Nanny Ogg and Magrat to sort them out.
For the second time, Terry Pratchett has turned to Shakespeare for his inspiration when writing this book, this time parodying A Midsummer Night's Dre...more
For the second time, Terry Pratchett has turned to Shakespeare for his inspiration when writing this book, this time parodying A Midsummer Night's Dre...more
I've come to Terry Pratchett only in the last 18 months, having been put off for years by the terrible covers and recommendations of him in his early days from fat geeks with a pewter wizard collection and Red Dwarf t-shirts.
However, coming to Pratchett many years later, and starting with the Vimes/City Guard series (outstanding) and making my way onto the Granny Weatherwax/Witches series. The books make a lot more sense reading them by series, rather than starting with the (still dodgy to my mi...more
However, coming to Pratchett many years later, and starting with the Vimes/City Guard series (outstanding) and making my way onto the Granny Weatherwax/Witches series. The books make a lot more sense reading them by series, rather than starting with the (still dodgy to my mi...more
This book, I feel, marks a change in the series. Until this point, the books have stood pretty well alone. Characters may have appeared in more than one book, but understanding their actions has not depended on having read the previous book, but here that changes. They also start getting somewhat longer, developing both characters and more complicated plot lines.
This features the Lancre witches, but without having read Wyrd Sisters and Witches Abroad, much of what occurs here would make no sens...more
This features the Lancre witches, but without having read Wyrd Sisters and Witches Abroad, much of what occurs here would make no sens...more
Ah, the witches. And the wizards. The librarian and elves. What's not to like about the magic of the Discworld?
I'm like a lot of others and really enjoy the Discworld novels when Granny Weatherwax and Nanny Ogg make an appearance. And I definitely have a very soft spot for the librarian.
But, as usual, it's impossible to summarise the plot so here's the blurb:
I'm like a lot of others and really enjoy the Discworld novels when Granny Weatherwax and Nanny Ogg make an appearance. And I definitely have a very soft spot for the librarian.
But, as usual, it's impossible to summarise the plot so here's the blurb:
THE FARIES ARE BACK - BUT THIS TIME THEY DON'T JUST WANT YOUR TEETH......more
Granny Weatherwax and her tiny coven are up against real elves.
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Sir Terry Pratchett sold his first story when he was thirteen, which earned him enough money to buy a second-hand typewriter. His first novel, a humorous fantasy entitled The Carpet People, appeared in 1971 from the publisher Colin Smythe. Terry worked for many years as a journalist and press officer, writing in his spare time and publishing a number of novels, including his first Discworld novel,...more
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