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Among the Thugs
by
Bill Buford
They have names like Barmy Bernie, Daft Donald, and Steamin' Sammy. They like lager (in huge quantities), the Queen, football clubs (especially Manchester United), and themselves. Their dislike encompasses the rest of the known universe, and England's soccer thugs express it in ways that range from mere vandalism to riots that terrorize entire cities. Now Bill Buford, edit...more
Paperback, 320 pages
Published
June 1st 1993
by Vintage
(first published January 1st 1991)
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A stunning work of non-fiction, Among the Thugs chronicles Buford's attempts to understand the English phenomenon of soccer hooliganism by immersing himself into its characters, events, and lifestyles. He starts as an outsider, an American living in London for many years without ever attending a soccer game. Intrigued by the stories of violence and lawlessness the games ignite in the supporters of the teams, he sets out to understand how and why so many young and working-class people are continu...more
Bill Buford, an American export to Britain, began an exploration of sports violence after he had the misfortune to take a train that was being systematically destroyed by hundreds of Liverpool soccer team supporters - the police seemingly unable to control the riot, indeed as afraid as the other passengers. There is a particularly savage image of a drunk "supporter," as Buford calls the hooligans, throwing lighted matches on the shoes of a well-to-do businessman riding in first-class, ...more
The English disease in all its gory. This book does a wonderful job of reporting and commenting on the horror of soccer crowds. For me, this comes after a six month fascination with soccer violence. There is very little to explain why hooligans do what they do, but what interests me is that this is a problem that seems to effect most western "civilized" nations except the good old U. S. of A. In discussing this issue with a friend, we both expressed surprise. Surprise not in the p...more
I'd forgotten about this one. It's hilarious, in a grim kind of way, which is how hilarious should be. Expat American infiltrates the notorious English football hooligan sub-culture of the late 80s/early 90s, you may remember those horrible violent yobs. These were hard nuts like the Inter-City Firm from West Ham who yould beat the daylights out of you and leave you broken, bleeding and barfing in a back alley but always remember to leave a smartly printed business card in one of your pockets sa...more
"Ira Glass recommended this biography of soccer hooligans—erm, football supporters—in England in the 1980s. Buford is an editor for Granta, and so the book reads more like a lengthy New Yorker profile, rather than A Clockwork Orange. Thus, the violence is palatable because it's sheathed in a discussion of group psychology. It's fascinating how men with decent paying jobs revel in freeloading (in fact, being \on the jib\"" while traveling to playoffs implies that the fans not on...more
I was interested in this book after seeing it recommended by Ira Glass and reading an excerpt. It is a really good book, a great example of narrative non-fiction. The way the book develops is smooth and logical, as the author peels back layer after layer of football hooligan culture, and investigates the nature of The Crowd. The book is divided into three parts and 10 chapters.
The first part is setting the scene: notes as an observer, and then he is brought into the circle and the cro...more
The first part is setting the scene: notes as an observer, and then he is brought into the circle and the cro...more
At its finer moments, “Among the Thugs” conveys a powerful and contagious desire for violence. Maybe this is easier to do than I realize—many Hollywood films fill me with bloodlust and I’ve got enough disdain for hooligans to think they deserve one another—but Buford walks a fine line. He’s keenly aware that he could write a jaw-breaking work of pure sadistic voyeurism; but he largely refrains from doing so.
He dips into the mayhem enough to establish his credibility and by highlight...more
He dips into the mayhem enough to establish his credibility and by highlight...more
This was an interesting look into the world of football hooligans of the late 80s and early 90s. Most of the trouble was had when he followed Manchester United, but he also meet skin heads from Chelsea, thugs from West Ham and Liverpool lads. It was interesting to see Buford try to explain the cause and reasons for most of the trouble. At first I assumed the thugs were trouble makers with not much at stake in life, but Buford meet family men who own their own business and came from affluent ...more
Bill Bufords' Among the Thugs is an unflinching examination of mob violence. An American who had been living in London for years, Buford became fascinated by the violence that accompanied football matches. Immersing himself in the world of the football thug, Buford shows how even some reasonably likable and intelligent individuals can be seduced by the high that comes from being a part of the rioting mob. While more personal than academic, much of what Buford discovers is much more immediately ...more
I started out hating this book...but not b/c it was poorly written. I hated it because I loathed the characters...the real life "characters" of the soccer hooligan community. That's actually a lot toward Bill Buford's credit. What I can't really figure out though, is the quality of his writing, I mean normally when a book elicits an emotional response the writer is of some quality. However, here the events are so mind bogglingly maddening that simply listing them in any form is e...more
Just in time for the World Cup. I always wondered what drove these guys to go crazy and trash the cities they went to soccer games in. Buford, an American, meets up with a few of them in bars near the stadiums. He's in Manchester, the most unruly of the fan clubs live there. He's actually a sociologist who doesn't understand British sports. Americans just go to football games and drink beer and cheer. These guys like to beat each other up. He explores why and what they do. Most of them have dece...more
What makes a crowd of people turn into a violent gang...working together as one to destroy? Bufford's personal account of the violence with soccer "hooligans" in the late 80's and early 90's is frightening. His writing is easy to follow with his accounts of the violence particularly well written to feel that you are there in the moment. The book ends abruptly as to say that the violence continues, it will never end.
The crowd craves violence; it is their drug. He writes,...more
The crowd craves violence; it is their drug. He writes,...more
As was the case with Heat, Buford is overly conversational (really never a reason to put "I must admit" in writing) and in need of a friend with a red pen. "I didn't need to be told, I was told" might be clever, but it is not reader-friendly writing.
It would have been interesting to read this book in its time, since the Hillsborough disaster changed so much, and for that matter a follow up, even a brief one (in the New Yorker?) would be compelling. Still, although ...more
It would have been interesting to read this book in its time, since the Hillsborough disaster changed so much, and for that matter a follow up, even a brief one (in the New Yorker?) would be compelling. Still, although ...more
Why does the game of football -- a fairly simple game involving merely two teams, two goals, and a ball -- inspire violence and fanaticism across the world?
That's the premise behind Bill Buford's "Among the Thugs."
An American reporter studying in England, Buford attempts to discover the motivations behind hooliganism by befriending "them," the lads whose Saturdays consist of large quantities of football, alcohol, and ultimately, violence.
The end ...more
That's the premise behind Bill Buford's "Among the Thugs."
An American reporter studying in England, Buford attempts to discover the motivations behind hooliganism by befriending "them," the lads whose Saturdays consist of large quantities of football, alcohol, and ultimately, violence.
The end ...more
Lots of violence in this one... starting out early in the book with 2 blacks getting stabbed in the subway. Filled with stories of mass rioting, street fighting, drinking, drugs, police brutality, destruction of property, etc. Young kids acting as lieutenants too getting stomped out on the streets. One instance that stuck out was a fight that involved one guy sucking the eyeball out of another and biting it off. One chapter is Buford's account of attending a skinhead party, which he finds disgus...more
I had put this on hold so long ago that I couldn’t remember what exactly it was about. Uh, something about a chef, maybe? Turns out Bill Buford’s OTHER book was about working with the chef Mario Batali, but this one was about English football hooligans.
This is an absolutely shocking read. I can’t tell you how many times I gasped. Anyone who is worried about excessive Anglophilia might want to read this book which gives you a pretty distressing glimpse of the violent, racist, drunken, ...more
This is an absolutely shocking read. I can’t tell you how many times I gasped. Anyone who is worried about excessive Anglophilia might want to read this book which gives you a pretty distressing glimpse of the violent, racist, drunken, ...more
Among the Thugs provides a brilliant window into crowd psychology. Buford explores the world of English Football hooligans and discovers striking insights into what drives violent crowd behavior. Contrary to common stories about alcohol, greed, and despair fueled riots, Buford suggests something more may be at play. By integrating himself among the thugs Buford captures the spirit of what it feels like to be one with the crowd and the ecstasy-like experience it evokes. The series of narratives i...more
Anyone that knows me, myself included, would say "why the hell is she reading THAT?!" I don't like sports. I don't get the fandom thing. I certainly don't get random violence in the name of allegiance to some sports team. But this ended up in my hands so I read it. Given my decided non-interest in the subject, I was really surprised to find myself wrapped up in this pretty quickly. Buford's writing style is engaging and intelligent. He treated the people he profiled with respect. The o...more
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I know this is a terrible thing to say, but I do take some perverse comfort in knowing there is at least one bizarre, violent social problem occuring in modern industrialized nations, that the United States does not have.
I know this is a terrible thing to say, but I do take some perverse comfort in knowing there is at least one bizarre, violent social problem occuring in modern industrialized nations, that the United States does not have.
I'm embarrassed to say that I loved this book, even though the senseless violence and heartless brutality are graphic in nature. The writing is amazing, completely engrossing, and action-packed. I just wish that the ending wasn't so abrupt, like he didn't want to write or think about English football hooligans anymore. It would be nice if Random House put out a 20th anniversary edition in 2011 with an afterword by Buford. I learned so much about English football culture & how terribly fright...more
This book is much more a work of sociology than a book about sports. Buford spent a great deal of time with football holligans of various stripes, and takes you inside their mentality in a way that illuminates how frightening and sad these people are. But one can also see why, in a perverse way, these people have an obsession with their football teams and an attraction to group violence - many of the thugs have no other meaningful attachments in their lives. For an hour on Sundays, they are "...more
An American in England gets involved in football supporters culture and reports his findings. Great "outsider" analysis of working class frustrations which are remedied by the excitement of being part of a crowd, something larger than themselves and the daily grind. Football terraces are also, sadly, recruiting grounds for far-right political groups that prey upon angry young men. The author is not among the right-wing sympathizers, which is most hilariously exemplified by a night at a...more
In the book department, this has been a pretty great year. I have not read that many books but the ones that I did get from cover to cover were all really exceptional books (with the exception of one). This however, is not that exception. Among the Thugs will be a book that wont let me forget it. It kept be gasping for air page by page from the alley chases and bar brawls, laughing out loud from the brilliantly timed interjections of humor, and shrieking to avoid reading another word of its ...more
A stunning view into the mentality of a mob. Bill Buford's book, although a bit dated, was one of the most interesting books I have read this year. Buford did an excellent job explaining how a soccer hooligan acts, thinks and lives. Having heard about the hysteria of an English soccer match during the eighties I went into this book with some reservations, the news must be exaggerating... Buford showed me that the news made the stories family friendly for television, under-reporting the true viol...more
A book about soccer without really being about soccer, Among the Thugs illuminates England's soccer hooligans through several different narratives. The book starts strong with the author's trip to Italy with Manchester United supporters and a birthday party for a skinhead at a pub. The reader goes along with the author in his journey from finding a soccer riot thrilling to disgusting to somewhat boring. While the book lags in the middle during an explanation of crowd theory, it is well worth ...more
I was expecting a book about the origin of soccer hooliganism in England. I was not expecting a first-person account, by an American no less, of some the most famous incidents of the the hooligan heyday, including an incredible account of Man U fans destroying parts of Turin, Italy before getting completed throttled by Italian riot police. While Buford's writing is fantastic, it is his level of involvement with, and access to, the subjects that makes this an incredible piece of journalism. He a...more
The violence, it's all so pointless.
That was the thought I had continually while reading the book.
I see this as a bit of a period piece. You often hear the match day commentators of today refer to the cliche of the "modern game". The commentator is usually talking about the play on the pitch: it was more physical, men were men and a rash tackle would mean you get up, dust yourself off and carry on.
I think after reading this I understand that the "m...more
That was the thought I had continually while reading the book.
I see this as a bit of a period piece. You often hear the match day commentators of today refer to the cliche of the "modern game". The commentator is usually talking about the play on the pitch: it was more physical, men were men and a rash tackle would mean you get up, dust yourself off and carry on.
I think after reading this I understand that the "m...more
Loved the gonzo style immersion journalism into the holy world of soccer hooliganism. Really well written and funny.
What Hunter S. Thompson did for 1960s motorcycle gangs, Bill Buford here does for 1980s English soccer fan culture and it's well worth reading if that interests you as it did me.
A New Yorker writer, Buford is the straight man to the crazy brutal violent world around him and he tells how he got sucked in only to emerge lucky to keep his life. Lots of wonderful s...more
What Hunter S. Thompson did for 1960s motorcycle gangs, Bill Buford here does for 1980s English soccer fan culture and it's well worth reading if that interests you as it did me.
A New Yorker writer, Buford is the straight man to the crazy brutal violent world around him and he tells how he got sucked in only to emerge lucky to keep his life. Lots of wonderful s...more
When Bill Buford started investigating the extreme violence among the soccer “firms” in the UK he was early into his tenure of being an American in England and as a result looked upon as an outsider when approaching the members of the different groups. With perseverance through continued attendance at soccer matches and his presence at several brawls between the firms and other soccer fans, he became more accepted as part of them and gained access to the leaders of these ultra-violent clubs. B...more
Bill Buford has an encounter with a group of English hooligans and decides to dive into this fenomenon, to find out what drives these people and why they choose to fight and seek out violence without any obvious reason.
What happens when Buford gets mixed up with several of these characters and moves within these clans of hooligans, is captivating. He tries to understand and in the process almost becomes one of them. He awes at the mighty forces of a mass crowd, but at the same time ...more
What happens when Buford gets mixed up with several of these characters and moves within these clans of hooligans, is captivating. He tries to understand and in the process almost becomes one of them. He awes at the mighty forces of a mass crowd, but at the same time ...more
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Bill Buford is an American author and journalist.
Buford is the author of the books:
Among the Thugs and Heat: An Amateur's Adventures as Kitchen Slave, Line Cook, Pasta-Maker, and Apprentice to a Dante-Quoting Butcher in Tuscany.
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Buford is the author of the books:
Among the Thugs and Heat: An Amateur's Adventures as Kitchen Slave, Line Cook, Pasta-Maker, and Apprentice to a Dante-Quoting Butcher in Tuscany.
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