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Son of a Witch (The Wicked Years #2)

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Liir hid in the shadows of the castle after Dorothy did in the Witch. Left for dead in a gully, the teen is shattered in spirit and body. But silent novice Candle tends him at the Cloister of Saint Glinda, and wills him back to life with her music.

What dark force left Liir in this condition? Is he really Elphaba's son? He has her broom and her cape - but what of her power...more

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Jul 04, 2008 Danii Goldstein rated it 5 of 5 stars · review of another edition Recommends it for: Everyone

I've read a lot of reviews for this book and most people seemed to hate it. You will notice, however, that I gave this book five stars.

To those who hated it, I say this: I see what your problems are.

The story is badly paced (most of the 'action' happens in the last third), the reader spends most of the time being confused as to what's going on (while it is a third person narrative, it is limited third person), some of the characters seemed half-drawn, the narrative is very disconnected (occasion...more

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Jan 30, 2008 Karen Hansen rated it 1 of 5 stars · review of another edition

I've read a lot of terrible books, but this one possibly wins the distinction of being the worst book that I have ever read. It was awful.

An explanation....I liked Wicked and I have read all of Maguire's other books. Every time a new Maguire book came out, I read it and they seemed to progressively go downhill. I didn't expect Son of s Witch to be very good, but I wanted to give it a chance.

The only reason that this book was possibly written, is due to the success of the stage musical of Wicked...more

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Oct 17, 2007 Steve rated it 2 of 5 stars · review of another edition

I made a mistake reading this book. I should have known from the ending of Wicked that it wouldn't get much better. But I held out hope. My hope was that "well, maybe the ending I didn't get in Wicked, I'll get here, and maybe that was the plan all along, to fully revise things in a sequel, as that would be more the author's OWN and he'd be less pigeon-holed."

Alas, that wasn't the case.

Again, 98% of this book is a great read. But the two main problems I had with the first book are the problems I...more I made a mistake reading this book. I should have known from the ending of Wicked that it wouldn't get much better. But I held out hope. My hope was that "well, maybe the ending I didn't get in Wicked, I'll get here, and maybe that was the plan all along, to fully revise things in a sequel, as that would be more the author's OWN and he'd be less pigeon-holed."

Alas, that wasn't the case.

Again, 98% of this book is a great read. But the two main problems I had with the first book are the problems I have with this book.

1- The pace is way too slow. I like the author's writing. I could read volume after volume of the middle bits of his stories. So if this book were DOUBLE the size, I'd be ok with it. It's just again when I got to the end, I realized that not much had happened. I'll give credit where credit is due though, Liir accomplished about 10 times as much as Elphaba ever did. So this was a step in the right direction. It's just over the course of the two books, I must say, all that really happened was about 5 trips between Kiamo Ko and the Emerald City. A lot of walking. Or flying on a broomstick. The old saying about it's not the reward of the quest, but the quest itself, shines through in both of these books. The "getting there" is a great read. But the endings are so ... well, that's point 2 so let's get to point 2 now.

2- The ending left me flat. Very flat. I'll again give credit where credit is due ... this ending was way better than the ending to Wicked. It was a big step forward. Elphaba really doesn't seem like she's ALLOWED by the writer to accomplish anything. Liir accomplishes a few things of importance. But that's it. That's all. So unless there's a third book on the way, I'm really dissatisfied with the state the story is left in at the very end. Especially with the character of Nor. It seemed like everything I read about her was in fact not needed. Like she could be cut completely out of this book and it wouldn't matter. The same could ALMOST be said of Shell. And Trism. And Candle after they got to Apple Farm Press.

If there's a third book, well, I like his writing enough that I'll again fall victim to interest and read it. But until this story gets some better or more complete resolution, I can't in good faith reccommend this to anyone.(less)

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Aug 03, 2007 Dayna rated it 1 of 5 stars · review of another edition

"Wicked" kind of annoyed me from time to time ... inspite of the fact that I loved reading Elphaba's story. If that book fell a little short ... then this book (the sequel) completely misses the mark. Maguire did okay when he was writing on the basis of someone else's work ... but here on his own he flounders. Whatever it was that did not sit well with me from "Wicked" is found tenfold in the pages of "Son of a Witch." At first I thought that it was just Maguire's take on bits of Baum's original...more

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Feb 11, 2008 Marcie rated it 5 of 5 stars · review of another edition

This book was so satisfying. Liir, son of Elphaba, comes into his own and after 266 pages, he begins to do incredible things to help other people, lead, unite, take the helm of his mother’s legacy. And it’s so realistic because he does it while still in a state of confusion and self-doubt, obstacles he never really overcomes (neither did Elphaba really). I love how everyone says to him “if only Elphaba was here to see this…” The Bird Congress aka Witch Nation (charged by Liir to be the eyes of O...more This book was so satisfying. Liir, son of Elphaba, comes into his own and after 266 pages, he begins to do incredible things to help other people, lead, unite, take the helm of his mother’s legacy. And it’s so realistic because he does it while still in a state of confusion and self-doubt, obstacles he never really overcomes (neither did Elphaba really). I love how everyone says to him “if only Elphaba was here to see this…” The Bird Congress aka Witch Nation (charged by Liir to be the eyes of Oz and share info with other species and humans to foil future despots), rides in the shape of a witch on a broom, and Liir rides in the position as the Eye of the Witch.

I loved it when he asked Nanny if she thought Elphaba will have a history and she said “She does already, ninnykins! I just saw her flying up the valley. Her cape went out behind her, a thousand bits in flight (the thousands of birds). Nearly touched the peaks to the left and the right. If that’s not a history, what is?” So, Liir GIVES her a history. I also like how sarcastic he becomes in the middle of the book, like his mother, after life kicks him around a lot, he lies in a coma, etc. At one point he says, “What condition? I’ve been in this condition my whole life. It’s the only condition I know. Bitter love, loneliness, contempt for corruption, blind hope. It’s where I live.” I also love how he becomes a man of wry humor and charm, accepting his fate of never knowing the answers. He tells Elphaba’s monkey “She always liked you better” and smiles at him. The monkey says “Considering who she was, is that a compliment or an insult?”

He poisons all the Emperor’s dragons, which in turn saves lives, achieves revenge on Cherrystone, frees the skies for the birds, unites two warring tribes who thought each other was doing the dragon-stuff. He thinks of a way to draw out the voices of the dead, which allows the She-Elephant to die properly. He still does not know if he is Elphaba’s son until the last sentence when he holds up his newborn daughter in the rain to clean her (after finding her dead, wrapped in Elphaba’s cloak, and he revives her). Her skin is green.

NOTE: How Maguire is successful in using “perception” of different witnesses and participants to alter our “perception” of the well-known Oz Story is through characters who must act without “knowing all the answers” or “having enough information.” We all face that in life. There are those who do not act because of this lack of enough info, are held back, they are cautious, and they never do anything meaningful. And then there are those who do take risks and act (you will never have all the answers or enough info) and thus make/ change history. In the traditional Oz Story, all the risks Elphaba take are mis-perceived. So, it’s fascinating how he again uses this same tool for the story of Liir, and everything he does could be perceived as bad…but it’s not. Thus, the immense satisfaction. And then you get pieces of additional info that determine he was on the right track, confirm his decisions and actions. No misperception, redirection, just the story of a regular Joe-schmoe who does amazing things. “If only Elphaba was here to see this…” I’m talking about more than a mother’s pride and personal vindication. I’m talking about a righting of the wrongs in the world that her son engineers.

And again, I wonder if the son will love the granddaughter properly, being her only caretaker. Obviously yes, because of the way he cared for her immediately, again righting wrongs his mother committed against him. What kind of person will the granddaughter be, what legacy will she leave on the world? How will she carry the burden of Elphaba, the burden of being green. Will Liir ever find Nor?

Green: fresh as spring, dewy, not rotten. The first color I learned about in literary symbolism. The green light of Daisy’s house that Jay Gatsby stares at across the water all the time. It meant HOPE, renewal, fresh new growth, a new beginning.
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Mar 04, 2008 Sarah Messick-Milone rated it 1 of 5 stars · review of another edition

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Apr 28, 2008 flajol rated it 4 of 5 stars · review of another edition

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I really enjoyed Son of a Witch, despite the feeling that it’s just an interlude in a larger story. With Wicked, I had lots of preconceptions about the characters, and whilst I liked the slant on them that the book provided, I suppose it did get in the way a bit. With Son of a Witch, I didn’t have those same obstacles to get past.

I enjoyed finding out more about Liir. I felt he was shabbily treated in Wicked, so it was interesting to follow his development here. I did want to shout at him a few...more

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Dec 25, 2007 Shelly Rae Rich rated it 5 of 5 stars · review of another edition

I'm not sure why this has an average of 3.32. It's a great entertaining and thought-provoking book. Maybe I'm prejudiced toward GM, but I loved it, and think it came to its inevitable conclusion. Can't wait for the next (which goes into Mother Yackle if anyone's following the series - he read a bit at last year's Grub Street conference).

I just looked at some of the other reviews and disagree on so many levels. The kinship of Elphaba and Liir is demonstrated quite well through his behavior and to...more

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Sep 23, 2011 Nathaniel rated it 1 of 5 stars · review of another edition

Jeez, and I thought Wicked was bad. Wicked was mostly plagiarizing Baum's universe, and it still managed to be a trite exercise in politically correct stupidity. When Maguire strikes off on his own, the results are twice as insufferably self-absorbed and soporific. If I could give this book no stars, I would; it was the final straw that made me convince my wife to permanently purge all Maguire from our library. Not worth the effort of acquiring, even as a paperweight, unless you're a masochi...more

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Mar 07, 2009 Fizzgig76 rated it 3 of 5 stars · review of another edition

Liir sets out on his own after the fall of the Witch to find his possible half-sister Nod and find that Oz is in political change with the departure of the Wizard. Son of a Witch isn't great book (I would consider Wicked a great book), but it isn't bad. The problem with Son of a Witch is that it feels like filler to a bigger story. It does touch upon some of the questions left over from Wicked (despite now being a "series", I don't think Wicked was intended to be anything but a stand alone novel...more

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Aug 07, 2008 Becky rated it 2 of 5 stars · review of another edition Recommends it for: Oz completists only

As much as I liked Wicked, I had an inkling I was going to like Son of a Witch even better, especially given the beginning, with the spate of senseless "scrapings" and the discovery of the unconscious boy, who turns out to be Liir, the book's protagonist and the potential son of the Wicked Witch of the West.

The beginning was indeed good. Engaging. I especially enjoyed the brief time Liir spent with the Yellow Brick Road friends from The Wizard of Oz. I'm a huge WoO nut, but I didn't have any pro...more

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May 05, 2007 Mahina rated it 3 of 5 stars · review of another edition Recommends it for: people who liked Wicked

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I liked this story better than "Wicked". It has similar elements of political intrigue and activism to "Wicked" but it is painted with a more strident brush.
I am a great an of Maguire and enjoy while being grossed out by his realistic (read graphic) descriptions of nearly every aspect of life.
"Son of a Witch" is Liir's story and throughout "Wicked" you never really find out if Liir really is Elphaba's son. In SOW, the same lack of explanation of Liir's origins continues. It is only the very last...more

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Jan 02, 2009 Kerry rated it 3 of 5 stars · review of another edition

Finally a character to like...Liir's character is fully loveable, unlike many of the Wicked characters. He is much more human, and vulnerable and fully developed. The book can be slow, especially in the first half, but the story is so rich that it kept me interested. I do understand other reviews about the story being confusing and disconnected...sometimes the jumping around and references from the first book can be hard to follow.

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Jun 07, 2007 Nadine rated it 3 of 5 stars · review of another edition Recommends it for: Wicked Fans.

I agree with some of the reviews that say the story was promising and had potential to go many places, and then fell flat. I realized that half way through the book, not a lot had happened, and I could tell that the pace wouldn't be picking up. After finishing the book, I realized that this book is merely the part 2 of the Wicked Trilogy- it was merely a segway to the next book. None of the mysteries were solved, though there were traces throughout the book that it would come much much later. Th...more

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Jun 27, 2007 Andrew rated it 2 of 5 stars · review of another edition Recommends it for: people who didn't think Wicked was a slow read and Liir was a boring character.

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This book is about The Wicked Witch of the West's alleged son, Liir. Liir was a boring character, but if you were going to write a sequel to Wicked, I guess you had to start somewhere. I mildly enjoyed the book because it featured reprisals of such characters as Glinda, Princess Nastoya, Nanny, and others from Wicked, including Shell who was only talked about in Wicked. The story, however, was rambly and boring. I wouldn't have gone on reading it if I didn't simply want to know where Gregory Mag...more

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Jan 04, 2009 Sara rated it 3 of 5 stars · review of another edition

I love the Oz universe, but I don't really like Maguire's style. But for some reason I've read this damn book 2 times.

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Aug 12, 2007 Christine (AR) rated it 4 of 5 stars · review of another edition

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Not nearly as good as Wicked, but still very enjoyable. Like its predecessor, there's a lot in here about personal responsibility -- to the people in your life vs. the society you live in, and how they aren't usually the same thing in the immediate. To me, Liir seemed less a child of fate than Elphaba; he chooses a lot of his problems. His story was very interesting, though.

(One thing in the negative -- when I read Wicked, I thought Maguire's literal interpretation of common phrases and his twis...more

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May 16, 2007 Amy rated it 3 of 5 stars · review of another edition

Shelves: favorite-author, own

While I really enjoyed Wicked, I'm not entirely sure what I think of Son of a Witch. Parts of it had the makings for going somewhere, other parts just fell flat, and the highlight of the whole book was the political turmoil that's building the whole way. My mom seemed to think highly of it when she gave me my copy, but later discussions, she agreed it was a little flat.

If you enjoy Maguire's other work, give this one a read and see what you think. If you didn't enjoy Wicked or don't like Maguire...more

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Aug 01, 2007 Christy rated it 3 of 5 stars · review of another edition Recommends it for: Readers of Wicked

Well written, a solid sequal, but for me a bit of a disappointment. Liir, the "son of a witch" is carrying on after Fabala's death and quite frankly, I expected more of him. The Green Witch remained magical despite Maguire's literary attempts to humanize her and the World of Oz. Or rather, I should say, his attempts to display Oz for a world beyond the everyday transactions of school, politics and relationships. Magic was uncommon but practiced, and in Fabala's case it was inherent. I guess I ho...more

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Feb 04, 2009 Mary rated it 3 of 5 stars · review of another edition

I liked it the best of the three

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Jul 25, 2007 Emma rated it 3 of 5 stars · review of another edition

Shelves: reality-escape

At the end of Wicked I was left wanting more from this series of characters I had grown to love. Son of a Witch offers this opportunity, but it never fully lived up to the first novel. My reaction to it reminded me of the disappointment I felt as a child when I read the lesser known novels in the Chronicles of Narnia series. I was disappointed because I wanted the feelings and the comradely that were established in the first book. I whole heartedly agree with the following review, [http://www.go ...more

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Oct 20, 2008 Jenny rated it 3 of 5 stars · review of another edition Recommends it for: people who honestly and truly liked the first book without reservations

Recommended to Jenny by: my 28-year-old self

Shelves: read-in-2008, books-not-worth-finishing

My apologies to Jeff, I hereby withdraw my recommendation of the book Wicked. It really has been quite a few years since I read it, and I thought I had a good memory of enjoying it. I stand corrected.

I picked up this book, the sequel to Wicked at the library last week. I didn't get even 100 pages in, it was way too violent and graphic. There is something about the style, something fascinating (I think this is what I liked about the first one) but the things described were pretty much rated R.

My...more

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Aug 24, 2011 Maethelwine rated it 1 of 5 stars · review of another edition

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I really wanted to like this novel. I loved Oz as a child, am always glad to see someone take it up as a subject, and a prequel, Wicked, was pretty good. This one, though, is terrible.[return][return]Liir, the main character, is so thinly drawn he seems almost disembodied, spending most of his time alone wondering who he is and what his place in the world might be. Frankly, it was almost impossible to care, particularly given irritating authorial idiosyncrasies such as Liir's incessant internal...more I really wanted to like this novel. I loved Oz as a child, am always glad to see someone take it up as a subject, and a prequel, Wicked, was pretty good. This one, though, is terrible.[return][return]Liir, the main character, is so thinly drawn he seems almost disembodied, spending most of his time alone wondering who he is and what his place in the world might be. Frankly, it was almost impossible to care, particularly given irritating authorial idiosyncrasies such as Liir's incessant internal monologues concerning his feelings about situation X. Does he feel revulsion? Attraction? Or simply...self recognition? It's breathtaking how dull this becomes after a hundred pages. [return][return]The supporting characters are utterly two dimensional props intended to prompt yet another cascade of self-doubt and identity-confusion in Liir. The one character Maguire really should have fleshed out, the Quadling girl Candle, is left a complete cipher, little more than a human bandaid for Liir in his darkest hours. Later, there is a gay subplot that managed to come across as both gratuitous and drearily inevitable. Liir and his soldier friend Trism (rhymes with...) have at each other in a frigid garret above a little countryside B&B, and the next morning Liir actually complains about his sore bottom as they mount their horses. Despite the fact that Maguire creates no real emotional link between the two, and in fact Trism rejects further advances, Liir spends the rest of the novel wondering whether it might work out after all, if things with Candle go sour. You begin to think that Liir is not merely confused, but possibly not all that bright either. [return][return]There are a handful of excellent scenes, but in a way they only make the novel more disappointing by highlighting the contrast between Maguire's ability to generate atmosphere and his failure to populate his novel with interesting characters. [return][return]Finally, the story is so unresolved that the book has no legs of its own to stand on. It simply hangs forlornly between the crutches of Wicked and whatever book comes next. Unfortunately, having followed the Son of the Witch this far, the prospect of going any farther is completely unappealing.(less)

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Aug 08, 2011 Mary added it · review of another edition

I was really impressed with Son of a Witch's predecessor, Wicked. Written a decade earlier, Wicked had a set purpose - beyond the art of storytelling (and the story WAS wonderful), Wicked had an underlying intention of exploring the many possible roots of evil.

Son of a Witch falls flat. It serves merely as a continuance of Wicked's story line, and altogether abandons the philosophical wonderings of Wicked. Like the younger sibling being asked by teachers, "Why can't you be more like your older s...more

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Mar 02, 2009 Kathryn rated it 3 of 5 stars · review of another edition

Shelves: fiction, sci-fi-fantasy

I'm deeply conflicted by this book. On the one hand (and I'd like to give a LOT of credit to reader Danii who pointed this out in her review), Maguire wrote this in a style that was rambling, conflicted, annoying, and at times going nowhere on PURPOSE. Because that's the kind of character Liir is. He knows very little about where he's from (heck, he can't even decide where he WANTS to be from), can't make up his mind about what to do with his future (other than in a sort of "well, this won't kil...more

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Feb 12, 2009 Yael rated it 5 of 5 stars · review of another edition

In the years after she attended school at Shiz Univesity, Elphaba Thropp, a.k.a. the Wicked Witch of the West, whose tragic life and death were chronicled in Wicked, had a lover, Prince Fiyero of the Vinkus, the land lying west of the Emerald City. Fiyero was abducted and murdered by Gale Force officers, shock troops of the Wizard of Oz. Pregnant with Fiyero's child, Elphaba fled for sanctuary to the Mauntery of St. Glinda just outside Shiz, where she fell into a months-long coma. Upon her recov...more

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Dec 04, 2008 Antof9 rated it 3 of 5 stars · review of another edition

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So ... we discussed the heck out of this one at book club, and I had a hard time writing my review. Plus, it was book #51 of the year for me, and I wrote this book review when I was reading #86. I really should have written this review earlier!

I do remember saying multiple times that I liked this one way better than Wicked, and I believe that can be owed to two main things:
1. a much better editor. This one didn't ramble in any way, shape or form like its predecessor
2. because we don't know anyth...more

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May 07, 2013 Carrie rated it 3 of 5 stars · review of another edition

If I could I would give this book 3.5 stars. Maguire beguiled me with more intricate description of the geographical structure of the land of Oz, it's inhabitants and culture of each region, and the political strife that continues to plague the land of Oz. The reader gets to see what happens to the Wicked Witch of the West's son, Liir after Dorothy kills her. The book shows where his choices lead him, his journey and adventures, his loves, and how he is put in the political role his mother had p...more

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Apr 16, 2013 Kenna Day rated it 4 of 5 stars · review of another edition Recommends it for: Fantasy readers, fans of Frank L. Baum, patient readers

Shelves: fairytales, fantasy

I picked this book up from the library because I wanted, no needed, a distraction from my research paper.

A lot of reviewers had a rather violent and angry reaction to this book. I can understand that, to an extent. Gregory Maguire has a way of writing infuriating characters and unsatisfying endings. That being said, he is an acquired taste. I have read a few of his books, Confessions of an Ugly Stepsister, Mirror, Mirror, and of course Wicked. I wrote a scathing review for Mirror, Mirror, but m...more I picked this book up from the library because I wanted, no needed, a distraction from my research paper.

A lot of reviewers had a rather violent and angry reaction to this book. I can understand that, to an extent. Gregory Maguire has a way of writing infuriating characters and unsatisfying endings. That being said, he is an acquired taste. I have read a few of his books, Confessions of an Ugly Stepsister, Mirror, Mirror, and of course Wicked. I wrote a scathing review for Mirror, Mirror, but my faith was redeemed by Confessions. And my overall impression of Maguire's work so far is that he doesn't enjoy writing pleasant "main" characters. Elphaba is often bristley and frustrating, Cinderella is incredibly obnoxious, and Snow White is downright idiotic. But to me, his stories aren't about the main characters, the ones who feature in the fairy tales. They're about the people on the side, like the sad and tragic stepsisters.

Lir is a unique situation. He is the main character of this novel, but not a main character in the Oz story. Lir is frustrating, bouncing between frets of indecision, zealot-like piety, and even cruelty. So naturally, readers don't like him. It's impossible to sympathize with a character who inspires homicidal tendencies. However, I enjoy the complexity Maguire strives for, the realism of his characters' flaws. I think Gregory Maguire sets out to upset us, and manages to do it quite well. The personalities of his Animals, Mother Yackle, and even Shell are enough alone to have kept me reading.

Overall, I think I enjoyed Confessions more, but this book kept me engaged for a few days. I will continue to read his work loyally.

As a side note, I find it ridiculous to criticize Maguire's Oz universe based on "plagiarism" of Baum's books. Did you not realize what you picked up when you began the novel? That's like saying "I don't like One Upon a Time or any of the other recent fairy tale re-imaginings in pop culture because they rip off tales from my childhood." Geeze.(less)

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Jan 19, 2013 Angela rated it 2 of 5 stars · review of another edition

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When Oatsie Manglehand discovers the severely injured young man in the Vinkus, she loads him onto her caravan and drops him off at the first stop that can help him, the cloister of St. Glinda. He is recognized there by the Superior Maunt as Liir, the young boy who left years ago with Elphaba, who later became known as the Wicked Witch of the West. Returning to his roots, Liir hovers near death and relives his past several years as he lies unconscious, watched over by the Quadling girl, Candle. L...more

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Gregory Maguire is an American author, whose novels are revisionist retellings of children's stories (such as L. Frank Baum's The Wonderful Wizard of Oz into Wicked). He received his Ph.D. in English and American Literature from Tufts University, and his B.A. from the State University of New York at Albany. He was a professor and co-director at the Simmons College Center for the Study of Children'...more

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