Ender in Exile (Ender's Saga #2)
After twenty-three years, Orson Scott Card returns to his acclaimed best-selling series with the first true, direct sequel to the classic Ender's Game.
In Ender’s Game, the world’s most gifted children were taken from their families and sent to an elite training school. At Battle School, they learned combat, strategy, and secret intelligence to fight a dangerous war on
...moreHardcover, 380 pages
Published
November 11th 2008
by Tor Books
(first published January 10th 2005)
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Orson Scott Card’s Ender’s saga holds the distinction of being one of the only series to win back-to-back Hugo Awards. Both “Ender’s Game” and “Speaker for the Dead” deservedly picked up Hugos when published and now, 30 years and several sequels later, Card revisits the time period between “Game” and “Speaker” in his latest novel in the Ender storyline.
After creating the parallel novel, “Ender’s Shadow” and the subsequent series about Bean, Petra and Peter’s rise to power in the wor...more
After creating the parallel novel, “Ender’s Shadow” and the subsequent series about Bean, Petra and Peter’s rise to power in the wor...more
My Amazon review (yeah, I was pretty pissed):
Subj: Deeply alienated by Card's recent work.
A disappointing, socially unimaginative flattening of a character and a world I once loved very much. This novel was rife with ideologically and spiritually conservative addresses to the reader that seemed to diverge from the far ranging and broad discourses of the other books, at least the way I read them so many years ago. I felt alienated by the Wiggins of this novel, theirs and t...more
Subj: Deeply alienated by Card's recent work.
A disappointing, socially unimaginative flattening of a character and a world I once loved very much. This novel was rife with ideologically and spiritually conservative addresses to the reader that seemed to diverge from the far ranging and broad discourses of the other books, at least the way I read them so many years ago. I felt alienated by the Wiggins of this novel, theirs and t...more
Whenever anyone asked me what science fiction books were worth reading, I'd always recommend Ender's Game. It is quite simply a magnificent book, well-plotted, full of action, angst, political maneuvering and brilliant characterizations. I felt that way about the second book, Speaker for the Dead as well. So along comes this book 23 years later promising to be a direct sequel to Ender's Game, and tell the story of the "lost years" between the two books. Woo hooo! But wait, all of ...more
I think that Orson Scott Card and George Lucas must have had a meeting at some point and came up with all the ways you can destroy a franchise by adding on useless and clumsy story to your original work.
Card wrote one of my favorite sci-fi books, Ender's Game, and then ruined every good feeling I had towards him by a parade a horrible sequels and tie-ins that either have nothing to do with the original story or repeatedly revise and rehash the original material so much that it's in d...more
Card wrote one of my favorite sci-fi books, Ender's Game, and then ruined every good feeling I had towards him by a parade a horrible sequels and tie-ins that either have nothing to do with the original story or repeatedly revise and rehash the original material so much that it's in d...more
I'll admit that I had high expectations for this book, since I loved the other Ender's Game series books I've read: Ender's Game, Speaker for the Dead, Xenocide, and Children of the Mind. While I did enjoy the book for the additional history and details it provides, I can't think of anything remarkable it contributed to the Ender storyline.
Although it's called a direct sequel to Ender's Game, most of this book actually takes place between chapters 14 (Ender's victory) and 15 (End...more
Although it's called a direct sequel to Ender's Game, most of this book actually takes place between chapters 14 (Ender's victory) and 15 (End...more
I first read Orson Scott Card’s most recognized novel, Ender’s Game, in my freshman year of high school, and immediately fell in love with it. It’s one novel that withstood the test of time when I read it again as an adult, as it was after all meant for an adult audience, despite the young characters. I eagerly read the rest of the series, but only Ender’s Shadow came close to recapturing characters I loved so much. I picked this up from my library with the hopes that a younger version of End...more
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What sets Ender in Exile apart from the the rest of the series is this: it is less than the sum of its parts.
A handful of its chapters had already appeared in short story form on Card's online sci-fi zine, Intergalactic Medicine Show. These stories were interesting and self-contained in their own right. But within the context of a novel, they strike me as being Card's Tom Bombadil: incidentally enriching to the established universe, but irrelevant to the narrative at hand.
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A handful of its chapters had already appeared in short story form on Card's online sci-fi zine, Intergalactic Medicine Show. These stories were interesting and self-contained in their own right. But within the context of a novel, they strike me as being Card's Tom Bombadil: incidentally enriching to the established universe, but irrelevant to the narrative at hand.
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I was skeptical going into this - In fact, I only read it today because it has to go back to the library soon and I didn't want to return it unread. I kept thinking that it couldn't possibly be interesting since we already know what happens. Could it really be worth reading about events that were already discussed in other Ender books? Of course, I had the same type of reservations about Ender's Shadow and ended up being wowed by that one.
Ender in Exile isn't the same sort of homerun...more
Ender in Exile isn't the same sort of homerun...more
Card, Orson Scott. 2008. Ender in Exile.
Ender in Exile is the "new direct sequel" to Ender's Game. And in a way, that's true enough. The novel begins with Ender on Eros. His brother, Peter, and sister, Valentine, are on Earth. One lobbying for his return, the other arguing that he should not be allowed to come home. At all. Ever. If Ender was sent home, so the argument goes, he'd be a pawn for governments and militaries to fight over. He'd be targeted by power-hungry indivi...more
Ender in Exile is the "new direct sequel" to Ender's Game. And in a way, that's true enough. The novel begins with Ender on Eros. His brother, Peter, and sister, Valentine, are on Earth. One lobbying for his return, the other arguing that he should not be allowed to come home. At all. Ever. If Ender was sent home, so the argument goes, he'd be a pawn for governments and militaries to fight over. He'd be targeted by power-hungry indivi...more
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Of all the books in the enderverse, my favorites are Ender's Game and Speaker for the Dead.
This "midquel" fits right in between those two and did not dissappoint.
For various reasons I find myself drawn, as I am sure many are, to Ender's character; this transition novel between the young, brilliant, "win-at-all-costs" Ender and his adult self that I came to love in the Speaker series fills in some of the gaps in his character and maturation development.
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This "midquel" fits right in between those two and did not dissappoint.
For various reasons I find myself drawn, as I am sure many are, to Ender's character; this transition novel between the young, brilliant, "win-at-all-costs" Ender and his adult self that I came to love in the Speaker series fills in some of the gaps in his character and maturation development.
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This book serves a weird role in the Ender series. It's both a direct sequel to Ender's Game and the conclusion to the Shadow series, tying up some threads left by Bean, Petra, Peter, and Virlomi. It contradicts the last chapter of Ender's Game, which Card acknowledges in the afterword and future editions of the book will have a revised final chapter. But it also expands on that final chapter, to give more backstory to Speaker for the Dead and more fully explain Ender's time as the governor...more
Ender in Exile is what I wanted as a sequel to Ender's Game when I read Speaker for the Dead many years ago. Instead, Speaker for the Dead seemed to have a completely different Ender and the storyline through the following books (Xenocide and Children of the Mind) was written for people who swim in the deep end of the Sci-Fi genre.
I swim in the shallow end, with the occasional foray into the deep end. Ender's Game is a book I would recommend to anyone, even those who have not even g...more
I swim in the shallow end, with the occasional foray into the deep end. Ender's Game is a book I would recommend to anyone, even those who have not even g...more
Card can write fantastically in his sleep, although I kind of feel like he snored right through this one a little too much. It fills the same role in the Enderverse as Back to the Future II: a good story in its own right, but kind of just something to fill in the holes between his really great works. It feels like about 3 or 4 short stories that were smooshed together like play-doh.
Card makes Ender too much of a Mary Sue character here. He's always right, always has a plan, and is sm...more
Card makes Ender too much of a Mary Sue character here. He's always right, always has a plan, and is sm...more
Part of me is nervous every time Card goes goes back to the Ender well, but again I was not disappointed. This book not being a Bean based book, although I have enjoyed those as well,it was nice to be back with the boy the created the universe. This book takes place between chapter 14-15 of Ender's Game and does a very nice job setting up the following trilogy more than the book alone did twenty years ago. I will say that this book was not truly necessary, it did flush out a little more of Ender...more
I have no idea what this book is. Orson Scott Card needs a direction/categorize for this book like he did with the other Ender books. The basic fact is that he took out all the moral/emotional fact from the original books was what made this book more like any other novel out there. He just needs to clear his head before writing anything now a days. He has lost his magical touch since writing Shadow of the Giant, which to me is his last great book.
It is difficult to place this book in its context in either the "original" series or the "shadow series." Truthfully, it fills in the missing gap in the original series, and references events from the shadow series.
I found the book to be an enjoyable and fast read, though Card falls into a trap that may fantasy and science fiction authors can't seem to avoid: his hero is perfect. Now, with a hero like Ender, this can be somewhat overlooked and, indeed, it doesn...more
I found the book to be an enjoyable and fast read, though Card falls into a trap that may fantasy and science fiction authors can't seem to avoid: his hero is perfect. Now, with a hero like Ender, this can be somewhat overlooked and, indeed, it doesn...more
A filler book in every sense. In the series. In my life. Right now I start reading whatever is closest to my hand when I put down the last book (panic) and then keep reading it (momentum). Yep, that's where I'm at on a lot of levels. As I wade through the plodding prose about ham-handed one-dimensional characters all I do is just wish I were Ender and not a real live human being, and certainly not me. I will finish it on the way to my BABYSITTING job tomorrow. I'm 28! This was not the pl...more
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Orson Scott Card keeps revisiting his Ender universe and churning out more stories about the Battle School kids. This novel returns to Ender, catching him just after the extermination of the Buggers. It’s told through multiple points of view – Ender Wiggin’s, Valentine’s, the Wiggin parents, and other characters – and follows Ender’s journey to Shakespeare colony and his governorship and subsequent travel to Ganges.
I was really impressed by Ender’s Game when I first read it, and su...more
I was really impressed by Ender’s Game when I first read it, and su...more
Very good, I highly enjoyed it. I am glad that the Ender series continues to expand and I hope there is room/scope for at least one more book.
My reflections on reading it:
I felt sorry for Valentine in this book. Her personality was very blah. I hope--if this series continues to grow--that the female characters, such as Val and maybe Jane, will be at least as interesting as the male characters.
OSC has done it before in past books with Petra and, to some exte...more
My reflections on reading it:
I felt sorry for Valentine in this book. Her personality was very blah. I hope--if this series continues to grow--that the female characters, such as Val and maybe Jane, will be at least as interesting as the male characters.
OSC has done it before in past books with Petra and, to some exte...more
I'm honestly not sure this book needed to exist. While it does tie up all the dangling plotlines from the Shadow series, the book as a whole doesn't really have any driving conflict. It's more just "here's what happened to Ender in the immediate aftermath of the Bugger War." There are two seeming conflicts in the book, but they both seem manufactured, just to give Ender something to do.
Thrilled as I am to have another Ender book, I think it would have been better if the Be...more
Thrilled as I am to have another Ender book, I think it would have been better if the Be...more
I'll admit that I'll read pretty much anything you can put in my hands about Ender, so obviously, I'm going to read this new book. I really enjoy reading back-story about Ender. I'm tempted to read Speaker for the Dead again, but perhaps I'll save that for a later date. I think I miss Jane. She was one of my favorite characters that came out the Ender series.
So this book...
There was so much in the writing of this book that was just not good. The conversation between the...more
So this book...
There was so much in the writing of this book that was just not good. The conversation between the...more
I read this because a friend of mine (you know who you are!) kept talking about Ender's Game (a book I've read and loved many times) and while deciding if I should reread it I found this instead. Card has come back nearly 20 years after "Ender's Game" to write a book that acts as its immediate sequel, a bridge between "EG" and the "Speaker" and/or "Shadow." Very enjoyable to get a bit more of Ender, though I always get tired of how perfect Ender believes...more
The direct sequel to Ender's Game is not as exciting as some of Card's other books, but most readers of Ender's Game will want to learn what happened next. About a third of the way into the novel, it became very exciting.
I am really angry that OSC got me so hard, so early, with Ender's Game, such that I want to read about the Wiggin siblings and their world even well past the point where it has become apparent that Card no longer writes books I will enjoy. I think this one, with various meandering digressions (at least one of which I found offensively misguided), lack of emotional payoff at any point in the story, and characters whose behavior seems inconsistent with my memories of them in earlier books, may hav...more
I mean, granted, it's been awhile since I read all the way through the Shadow books. But I did think this was better than the majority of those, if nowhere even in the same ballpark as Ender's Shadow. That speaks more to the badness of the Shadow series than to Exile's goodness, though. The character development was shoddy, the pacing bizarre, and the overall "scope" of what happened dull. The only thing of real interest (to me) was the expanded relationship between Ender and the yo...more
I read the kindle version of this book on my iPhone.
This is the latest offering in the "Enderverse" which starts with "Ender's Game," a short story published in the late 1970s that was later converted by the author into a full-length, and very very good, novel. Card writes well, and knows how to tell good stories that touch the heart.
But I do not find Card a trustworthy author - he has written short stories in the horror genre that still give me b...more
This is the latest offering in the "Enderverse" which starts with "Ender's Game," a short story published in the late 1970s that was later converted by the author into a full-length, and very very good, novel. Card writes well, and knows how to tell good stories that touch the heart.
But I do not find Card a trustworthy author - he has written short stories in the horror genre that still give me b...more
This book is for anyone who might have been upset that the Ender from the original book *suddenly* becomes someone almost completely different in Speaker for the Dead. His motivations, goals, and ambitions seem completely different. Something changed between books 1 and 2. So, Card wrote this 'midquel' (his term).
I enjoyed this book. It fleshes-out a lot of the story for me. It also reads as a wonderful tribute to the soldiers who fight in wars, but survive, only to come home to...more
I enjoyed this book. It fleshes-out a lot of the story for me. It also reads as a wonderful tribute to the soldiers who fight in wars, but survive, only to come home to...more
I have a big soft spot in my heart for Ender books. I like the stories, I like the writing, I like the characters. I often keep a book on my nightstand for those nights that I need to read for a few minutes to calm my mind, but I'm too tired to really process. I often use one of the Ender's books for this purpose. Once I've read one, I feel like I can open the book at random and jump in and out of it at any point. I know exactly where I am in the story and feel that instant connection to the...more
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Orson Scott Card is the author of the novels Ender's Game, Ender's Shadow, and Speaker for the Dead, which are widely read by adults and younger readers, and are increasingly used in schools.
Besides these and other science fiction novels, Card writes contemporary fantasy (Magic Street, Enchantment, Lost Boys), biblical novels (Stone Tables, Rachel and Leah), the American frontier fantasy ser...more
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Besides these and other science fiction novels, Card writes contemporary fantasy (Magic Street, Enchantment, Lost Boys), biblical novels (Stone Tables, Rachel and Leah), the American frontier fantasy ser...more
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“My needs are simple and few, thought Valentine. Food. Clothing. A comfortable place to sleep. And no idiots.
But of course a world with no idiots would be lonely. If she herself were even allowed there.”
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But of course a world with no idiots would be lonely. If she herself were even allowed there.”
“If desire did not dim the brain, nobody would ever get married, drunk, or fat.
~Val”
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