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August 19th 2008
by Crown Forum
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Hardcover, 256 pages
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0307405389
(isbn13: 9780307405388)
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With four simple truths as his framework, Charles Murray, the bestselling coauthor of The Bell Curve, sweeps away the hypocrisy, wishful thinking, and...more
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I was in the bookstore on Saturday, saw that Charles Murray had put out a new book, and said, "Dammit," because I knew I HAD to read it and therefore shell out $25 for it.
He discusses four truths of contemporary American education. I think his first two truths (ability varies; half of all children are below average) are undebatable. Few would disagree with his fourth truth (America's future depends on the education of the academically gifted) on its face, but they might disag...more
He discusses four truths of contemporary American education. I think his first two truths (ability varies; half of all children are below average) are undebatable. Few would disagree with his fourth truth (America's future depends on the education of the academically gifted) on its face, but they might disag...more
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Read in February, 2009
This book has been an eye opener and a good place to start in thinking about the direction I would like to take for my children's education.
This book has introduced me to the pervasive "ideas based" education behind the current public school education. He makes the case that this type of education does not foster critical thinking as expected or improve reading comprehension. He advocates for content based education such as the Core Knowledge curriculum by E.D. Hirsch. H...more
This book has introduced me to the pervasive "ideas based" education behind the current public school education. He makes the case that this type of education does not foster critical thinking as expected or improve reading comprehension. He advocates for content based education such as the Core Knowledge curriculum by E.D. Hirsch. H...more
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Read in April, 2009
Charles Murray, social scientist extraordinaire, describes the problems with America’s educational system using four easy points:
1. Ability varies
2. Half of the children are below average
3. Too many people are going to college
4. America’s future depends on how we educate the academically gifted
Murray argues that these problems stem from our hopelessly romantic ideals involving education. I argue that many of the problems in the cou...more
1. Ability varies
2. Half of the children are below average
3. Too many people are going to college
4. America’s future depends on how we educate the academically gifted
Murray argues that these problems stem from our hopelessly romantic ideals involving education. I argue that many of the problems in the cou...more
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Read in January, 2009
Known most for co-authoring the controversial The Bell Curve, in the 1990s, Charles Murray has produced what I hope will be a less-controversial look at the state of America's educational system. Using Howard Gardner's multiple intelligences theory as a platform, Murray argues for a more stringent focus on helping the academically (i.e, linguistic, mathematical and logical) gifted students thrive while providing those uninterested in a liberal education the means to pursue career interests that ...more
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Read in February, 2009
This book has been an eye opener and a good place to start in thinking about the direction I would like to take for my children's education.
One of the four truths he lays out is that America's future depends on how the academically gifted are educated. He says the gifted need to be wise. They need to have rigor in verbal expression, rigor in thinking about virtue and rigor in the good and forming judgements. He also says that a true sense of humility is needed.
I can...more
One of the four truths he lays out is that America's future depends on how the academically gifted are educated. He says the gifted need to be wise. They need to have rigor in verbal expression, rigor in thinking about virtue and rigor in the good and forming judgements. He also says that a true sense of humility is needed.
I can...more
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Read in October, 2008
I really enjoy reading about all aspects of education. So, a book like this totally appeals to me. This is a short tome which touches on a variety of topics like the theory of multiple intelligences and the modern university abandoning solid liberal education as a core curriculum. In short, Murray thinks that our educational system is broken because we refuse to believe that 1. ability varies 2. half of the children are below average and there are limits to what can be done. Many children can...more
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Read in March, 2009
Very illuminating.
I agree with his premise. However, you have to wade through a bunch of statistical analysis to understand his reasoning. Just when you think you can't take anymore of it, though, up pops Murray's incredible wit and entertaining real-life examples.
A must-read for educators, in my opinion.
I agree with his premise. However, you have to wade through a bunch of statistical analysis to understand his reasoning. Just when you think you can't take anymore of it, though, up pops Murray's incredible wit and entertaining real-life examples.
A must-read for educators, in my opinion.
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Read in January, 2009
I loved this book. I know that he authored the Bell Curve and all that. I think that he is spot on with his four simple truths: ability varies, half of the children are below average, too many people are going to college and America's future depends on how we educate the academically gifted. I would love to be involved in an educational system that realistically addressed these issues.
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09/27/08
Skylar Burris
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I skimmed this in the bookstore and will be interested to read it. I know Murray recently caused a stir by proposing to replace much of higher educaiton with examinaitons anyone is free to take, along the lines of the CPA exam, since a B.A. doesn't prove a graduate actually possesses basic competence. This book, from what I can tell from my skimming, seems to tackle one particular problem I agree exists in modern education: the belief that any kid can (or should) excel in any and all subjects, t...more
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12/17/08
Joe
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Read in December, 2008
An interesting book... not sure what I think/believe about some of it.
It brings up some things I have thought, but rarely voiced. It brings up some "Facts" that I am not sure are all that factual, but have me wondering.
I will let you know what I think when I am done.
It brings up some things I have thought, but rarely voiced. It brings up some "Facts" that I am not sure are all that factual, but have me wondering.
I will let you know what I think when I am done.
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Read in December, 2008
Great insight into problem with our educational system. The author is somewhat provocative in trying to propose new thinking about education in the US. I am on a new journey now to understand the educational system better.
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01/31/09
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Read in January, 2009
A great book about why education sucks in this country, or more accurately, that it's not so much bad teachers as bad students. And these students should not be going to college.
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Read in April, 2009
Ability varies; half of the children are below average; too many people are going to college; educate the gifted; let change happen.
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Read in December, 2008
Good book, easy read (though I imagine easy to hate--very interested in reading some negative reviews). I don't think there is much I disagree with. Too many people go to college. And four years is too long. Teach kids lots of facts in k to 8th. Give smart people a chance to fail.
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07/01/09
Allison
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I will be reading this for some time... Very text book so far but the ideas are interesting to me
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Read in January, 2008
recommends it for:
anyone with any interest in education
Ya gotta love the controversial subject matter of this book, summarized nicely on the back of the dust jacket:
"1. Ability varies.
2. Half of the children are below average.
3. Too many people are going to college.
4. America's future depends on how we educate the academically gifted."
The only one that perhaps isn't totally obvious is item 3, but he makes a strong case. Defintely recommended.
"1. Ability varies.
2. Half of the children are below average.
3. Too many people are going to college.
4. America's future depends on how we educate the academically gifted."
The only one that perhaps isn't totally obvious is item 3, but he makes a strong case. Defintely recommended.
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Read in September, 2008
I thought this book made some interesting points, I'm not sure how much of it I buy into though. I'd be interested to see what others-especially those involved in the education process think of it.
A note, the going gets a bit tough in the second or third chapter, if you don't think you can make it through, skip to the last two chapters. I think they are key.
Interesting and a bit scary!
A note, the going gets a bit tough in the second or third chapter, if you don't think you can make it through, skip to the last two chapters. I think they are key.
Interesting and a bit scary!
Read in October, 2008
An excellent and well researched treatise on what's wrong with today's education system and what can be done to correct it. And the problems are not what you've been told by today's media, educators, or politicians. A Very enlightening book by one of the author's of "THE BELL CURVE".
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Provocative analysis of what's wrong with our public education system. I find this libertarian annoying and lacking in compassion, but yet enjoy considering lesser-considered alternatives to our failing schools.
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