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Real Education: Four Simple Truths for Bringing American Schools Back to Reality
With four simple truths as his framework, Charles Murray, the bestselling coauthor of The Bell Curve, sweeps away the hypocrisy, wishful thinking, and upside-down priorities that grip America’s educational establishment.
Ability varies. Children differ in their ability to learn academic material. Doing our best for every child requires, above all else, that we embrace that...more
Ability varies. Children differ in their ability to learn academic material. Doing our best for every child requires, above all else, that we embrace that...more
Hardcover, 256 pages
Published
August 19th 2008
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I was in the bookstore on Saturday, saw that Charles Murray had put out a new book, and said, "Dammit," because I knew I HAD to read it and therefore shell out $25 for it.
He discusses four truths of contemporary American education. I think his first two truths (ability varies; half of all children are below average) are undebatable. Few would disagree with his fourth truth (America's future depends on the education of the academically gifted) on its face, but they might disag...more
He discusses four truths of contemporary American education. I think his first two truths (ability varies; half of all children are below average) are undebatable. Few would disagree with his fourth truth (America's future depends on the education of the academically gifted) on its face, but they might disag...more
Real Education starts off solid; Murray points us in the direction of some much-needed realism with regards to the American educational system. We are indeed absolutely wasting our time by expecting that every child has the same innate capacity for academic achievement, or that expecting that every child (or even most children) will benefit from a liberal arts college education.
Where the book falls off the rails is in Chapter 4, where Murray expounds on what he believes the gifted should be lea...more
Where the book falls off the rails is in Chapter 4, where Murray expounds on what he believes the gifted should be lea...more
This book has been an eye opener and a good place to start in thinking about the direction I would like to take for my children's education.
This book has introduced me to the pervasive "ideas based" education behind the current public school education. He makes the case that this type of education does not foster critical thinking as expected or improve reading comprehension. He advocates for content based education such as the Core Knowledge curriculum by E.D. Hirsch. H...more
This book has introduced me to the pervasive "ideas based" education behind the current public school education. He makes the case that this type of education does not foster critical thinking as expected or improve reading comprehension. He advocates for content based education such as the Core Knowledge curriculum by E.D. Hirsch. H...more
Great overview of the "hypocrisy, wishful thinking, and upside-down priorities" in America's educational establishment. The book posits that children differ in their abilities to learn academic material, a fact acknowledged and accepted by teachers and parents in all of Gardner's "multiple intelligences" except for verbal-linguistic and mathematical-logical intelligence, which Murray asserts is worse than absurd - it is humiliating to students who simply have low ability in t...more
Charles Murray is one of the best known researchers and writers on various public policy topics. He is oftentimes maligned due to the fact that many of his positions and arguments fly in the face of the popular wisdom and challenge some of our most cherished prejudices. In the case of education, those prejudices have been the source of countless "reforms" that have had very little, if any, impact on the actual achievements of students they were meant to help. The latest one of those at...more
An interesting analysis of the American system of education. Murray is not a big fan of No Child Left Behind. This got him thinking about how he would change public policy when it comes to education. In this book he states what he believes are four truths that could help us stop being educational romantics and start fixing the system.
1. Kids have differing ability (we can't make all kids genuine A students). 2. Half of our kids are below average when it come to their mathematical and l...more
1. Kids have differing ability (we can't make all kids genuine A students). 2. Half of our kids are below average when it come to their mathematical and l...more
I can't decide whether to be dismayed or pleased about Mr. Murray's opinions on education. On the one hand, I agree with almost everything he says in the book, and it is always a bit of a relief to stumble upon like-minded people. That being said, it was a bit discouraging to find that most of my thoughts on this subject are already included in a concise, well-written book. (I was never naive enough to believe that I had any truly unique thoughts, but I thought that perhaps they might be spre...more
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I finished this short (168 pages) but powerful book (today) the day before most kids return to public school for the start of a new year. Once you've read it, you can then ignore 99% of the newspaper headlines about school reforms, testing, etc. Murray quickly rips the band-aid off in exposing the wishful and sloppy thinking out there on the topic of K-12 and college education. Titles of his chapters include "Ability Varies", "Half the Children Are Below Average", and "T...more
Murray has not cowered since his inflammatory IQ arguments in the mid 90's. Here, Murray argues that educational romantics are harming the least academically gifted children and the most academically gifted ones by ignoring inherent abilities. He cleverly uses Multiple Intelligence theory to argue that we must face inherent capacity no matter what natural aptitudes a child may have. He focuses on three of the seven general types of intelligence: spatial, logical, and verbal. These are the ac...more
This book injects some much needed realism into the never-ceasing education debate. Charles Murray insists we must first dispense with “educational romanticism” before we can better serve students of all academic abilities. Full review here.
Charles Murray wrote a few articles in the Wall Street Journal and expanded them into this book. The most memorable statement from both the articles and the book was that 50% of students are below average in educational ability. People took offense to this statement, not because he assumed students fall on a normal curve and he may have misused the term “average”, but because it offended their educational romanticism. If 50% of children are below average in educational attainment, 50% of chil...more
Charles Murray has echoed many of my same thoughts on our education system.... we need to make some serious changes in our school systems in what is covered and stop the politically correct nonsense which strips our children of their culture and basic knowledge. I thought that Mr Murray left out however the most compelling reason why kids are told that college is the right choice...because college has become big business. The government makes billions in interest charges off of school loans as d...more
Known most for co-authoring the controversial The Bell Curve, in the 1990s, Charles Murray has produced what I hope will be a less-controversial look at the state of America's educational system. Using Howard Gardner's multiple intelligences theory as a platform, Murray argues for a more stringent focus on helping the academically (i.e, linguistic, mathematical and logical) gifted students thrive while providing those uninterested in a liberal education the means to pursue career interests that ...more
This book has been an eye opener and a good place to start in thinking about the direction I would like to take for my children's education.
One of the four truths he lays out is that America's future depends on how the academically gifted are educated. He says the gifted need to be wise. They need to have rigor in verbal expression, rigor in thinking about virtue and rigor in the good and forming judgements. He also says that a true sense of humility is needed.
I can...more
One of the four truths he lays out is that America's future depends on how the academically gifted are educated. He says the gifted need to be wise. They need to have rigor in verbal expression, rigor in thinking about virtue and rigor in the good and forming judgements. He also says that a true sense of humility is needed.
I can...more
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I applaud so much of what Charles Murray has to say about the current education system in the United States. He doesn't hold back criticism and offers concrete ideas. He is grounded and not romantic about the problems faced by students, parents and teachers.
He has four main suppositions:
1.) Ability varies. He discusses Gardner's theory of multiple intelligences in a realistic manner. This doesn't mean that because everyone is good at something, that teachers can use that somet...more
He has four main suppositions:
1.) Ability varies. He discusses Gardner's theory of multiple intelligences in a realistic manner. This doesn't mean that because everyone is good at something, that teachers can use that somet...more
I really enjoy reading about all aspects of education. So, a book like this totally appeals to me. This is a short tome which touches on a variety of topics like the theory of multiple intelligences and the modern university abandoning solid liberal education as a core curriculum. In short, Murray thinks that our educational system is broken because we refuse to believe that 1. ability varies 2. half of the children are below average and there are limits to what can be done. Many children can...more
This was an excellent book. The author addresses the fact that for everyone who is above average, there is another person who is below it, and no matter how much money we pour into our educational system, we cannot make everybody an "A" student without lowering the standard. The chapter "Too Many People Are Going to College" is definitely eye-opening. I highly recommend this book!
Very good. Murray assumes that liberal arts education has a more sanctifying effect than it actually does, but the main thrust of his argumentation here is unanswerable -- and I have a hard time imagining why anybody would want to answer it. He applies common sense by the realistic bucketful to questions like student ability, college placement. Every educator should read this book.
Very illuminating.
I agree with his premise. However, you have to wade through a bunch of statistical analysis to understand his reasoning. Just when you think you can't take anymore of it, though, up pops Murray's incredible wit and entertaining real-life examples.
A must-read for educators, in my opinion.
I agree with his premise. However, you have to wade through a bunch of statistical analysis to understand his reasoning. Just when you think you can't take anymore of it, though, up pops Murray's incredible wit and entertaining real-life examples.
A must-read for educators, in my opinion.
I loved this book. I know that he authored the Bell Curve and all that. I think that he is spot on with his four simple truths: ability varies, half of the children are below average, too many people are going to college and America's future depends on how we educate the academically gifted. I would love to be involved in an educational system that realistically addressed these issues.
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An interesting book... not sure what I think/believe about some of it.
It brings up some things I have thought, but rarely voiced. It brings up some "Facts" that I am not sure are all that factual, but have me wondering.
I will let you know what I think when I am done.
It brings up some things I have thought, but rarely voiced. It brings up some "Facts" that I am not sure are all that factual, but have me wondering.
I will let you know what I think when I am done.
Murray's four truths are that our abilities vary, half of us are below average, too many of us go to college, and we need to educate the academically gifted in a better/different way. I agree with almost all of his ideas and was delighted to discover this book. Very provocative reading.
Great insight into problem with our educational system. The author is somewhat provocative in trying to propose new thinking about education in the US. I am on a new journey now to understand the educational system better.
I'm a college professor and I commend Mr. Murray on his insightful analysis, and I applaud his lucid assessment of the problems that plague our schools on all levels. What I was particularly impressed with was the candor and courage he used in presenting his case for academically challenged students to attend trade schools instead of conventional colleges. It's not a popular notion, but it makes sense financially and intellectually. As he states, the value of a BA is overrated. It's the responsi...more
4 Truths: 1) Ability varies 2) Half of the children are below average 3) Too many people are going to college 4) America's future depends on how we educate the academically gifted
This was the first book to really get me thinking about what our students really need. It sparked a passion. Great book, separated into 4 main sections, and backed by data and facts.
Interesting thoughts on education. I do agree that we're doing a lot of things wrong and could use an overhaul. Education is so political, though- doubtful real reform will ever happen.
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A great book about why education sucks in this country, or more accurately, that it's not so much bad teachers as bad students. And these students should not be going to college.
Charles Shaw makes 4 assertions:
1. Ability varies
2. Half of the children are below average
3. Too many people are going to college
4. America’s future depends on how we educate the academically gifted
I found #3 the most interesting, and completely agree with Murray. I won't spoil anything here, but the book is very thought-provoking and filled with back-to-reality common sense that has gone missing in an age of educational romanticism.
1. Ability varies
2. Half of the children are below average
3. Too many people are going to college
4. America’s future depends on how we educate the academically gifted
I found #3 the most interesting, and completely agree with Murray. I won't spoil anything here, but the book is very thought-provoking and filled with back-to-reality common sense that has gone missing in an age of educational romanticism.
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