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Our Magnificent Bastard Tongue: The Untold Story of English
A survey of the quirks and quandaries of the English language, focusing on our strange and wonderful grammar
Why do we say "I am reading a catalog" instead of "I read a catalog"? Why do we say "do" at all? Is the way we speak a reflection of our cultural values? Delving into these provocative topics and more, Our Magnificent Bastard Language distills hundreds of years of f...more
Why do we say "I am reading a catalog" instead of "I read a catalog"? Why do we say "do" at all? Is the way we speak a reflection of our cultural values? Delving into these provocative topics and more, Our Magnificent Bastard Language distills hundreds of years of f...more
Hardcover, 230 pages
Published
October 30th 2008
by Gotham
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A fantastic book! I have not come across anyone, not even Steven Pinker, who does such a good job of showing you how exciting linguistics can be. His bold and unconventional history of the English language was full of ideas I'd never seen before, but which made excellent sense. And, before I get into the review proper, a contrite apology to Jordan. She gave it to me six months ago as a birthday present, and somehow I didn't open it until last week. Well, Jordan, thank you, and I'll try to be mor...more
Feb 16, 2009
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This is an extraordinarily delightful little book that highlights some of English's lesser known idiosyncrasies because, as the author notes, English is not just a collection of words, nor is its genius an markedly unusual openness to new vocabulary.
I first encountered John McWhorter with his book The Power of Babel: A Natural History of Language Paperback, which traced the evolution of languages from a "first language" and which is also highly recommended. (Actually, having read The Singing Nea...more
I first encountered John McWhorter with his book The Power of Babel: A Natural History of Language Paperback, which traced the evolution of languages from a "first language" and which is also highly recommended. (Actually, having read The Singing Nea...more
John McWhorter has done it again! For those who love language, there is no author better to educate and entertain on all matters linguistic. In the current work, he proves that Celtic grammatical structures have given English its "meaningless do" (as in "Do you know what I mean?") and its normative progressive present tense (as in "I am writing" rather than the more usual in other Germanic languages "I write"). He, in fact, rather belabors the point in the first chapter to an extent that can onl...more
Recommended by a blogger at the Ann Arbor library, and rightly so - McWhorter is a funny writer and a historical linguist. I'm a little shocked at how well he writes, given the fact that he studies linguistics, in fact. Anthropologists in general do not write well for the general reader (with the exception of Robert Sapolsky, whom I adore, and Kent Flannery, who has written a few truly funny paragraphs that are stuck in the middle of boring-to-anyone-outside-the-field archaeological monographs)....more
Never thought Linguistics can be so much fun! Too many details to discuss. But if you ever wondered why, for instance, "you" has the same form for both singular and plural, why we say "aren't I" instead of the more logical "amn't I", why we use the meaningless "do" or "they" as a singular pronoun instead of he/she when the gender is not clear, you might get some answers or at least accept the fact that, in the author's own words, "shitte happens". He uses facts, comparison, logic and fun to expl...more
First, I want to say that I "read" this book as an audio book. I say that to point out that the INTRODUCTION to this book was about 1.5 hrs long. Much of the content in the intro should have been incorporated and divided into chapters in the body of the work. The actual content itself was relatively interesting but I found myself drifting because I couldn't remember my high school English classes, especially the bits about cases, persons, tenses, etc. Before you jump into this one, I would sugge...more
The vast majority of linguistics books for the mass market are books about the history of words. If you pick up a typical history of the English language, you will learn about words we got from the Vikings, words we got from the French, words we got from the colonial era...with very little information about the structure of the English language itself. While these books are full of fun factoids--did you know shampoo comes from Hindi?--they never get to the heart of what makes language fascinatin...more
John McWhorter is an excellent lecturer, and his writing is just as good. This book gives a big-picture view of how English developed out of Proto-Germanic and Proto-Indo-European, rather than the tightly focused view one usually gets from scholars who've never studied anything but English. He's clearly arguing against some traditional views of the development of English -- half the fun is watching a smart, articulate writer demolish a hoary old academic edifice with facts and logic and wit. He...more
This was a decent piece of revisionist linguistic history. The arguments are well-reasoned, and the prose is nice. People with an affinity for language will like this book. More specifically, native English speakers who know at least a couple of foreign languages will have a good time reading this book.
A few criticisms:
First, the book is written at least at a high school reading level, perhaps even a junior high reading level. I realize that making the language a bit more intellectual would put...more
A few criticisms:
First, the book is written at least at a high school reading level, perhaps even a junior high reading level. I realize that making the language a bit more intellectual would put...more
A very readable yet still meticulously researched work. It makes a well detailed argument for the argument of Celtic influence in English and has a good argument against Sapir-Whorf in the idea of using it to perpetuate the idea of the "noble savage".
Though as others have pointed out at times the rants go a little too far and honestly I found the argument about the piano playing families so convoluted that if I had not already had an idea of what he was getting it-- he would have lost me entire...more
Though as others have pointed out at times the rants go a little too far and honestly I found the argument about the piano playing families so convoluted that if I had not already had an idea of what he was getting it-- he would have lost me entire...more
It is always frustrating to read popular linguistics books as a layperson because you never know when that cool thing you just read is going to turn out to be at least partly untrue. This book is repetitive, but it goes far to explain who disagrees with the author, why they disagree, and why the fact that they disagree doesn't mean that they are just a bunch of closed minded idiots. This is important if you're used to approaching these books with a healthy dose of skepticism. Yes, the points mad...more
I am not an expert, but I did major in Linguistics in college. I found McWhorter's arguments horribly oversimplified and tedious to read. I'm glad that he is putting linguistic scholarship out there for the general public, but someone with even a rudimentary knowledge (or even a grammar or history nerd) would know.
Being familiar with some of the counter-arguments he suggests, I can say that he presents them in a manner intended to make them appear somewhat foolish, rather than addressing them pr...more
Being familiar with some of the counter-arguments he suggests, I can say that he presents them in a manner intended to make them appear somewhat foolish, rather than addressing them pr...more
John McWhorter's Our Magnificent Bastard Tongue is one of the most interesting books about the English language that I have read. That's saying a lot since books about the English language is all I seem to read. I don't review them enough since they're usually textbooks (fun!), but Tongue definitely deserves a review, even if it's just me telling you to go out and buy it.
Go out and buy Our Magnificent Bastard Tongue by John McWhorter.
Tongue attempts to answer a few questions about English that...more
Go out and buy Our Magnificent Bastard Tongue by John McWhorter.
Tongue attempts to answer a few questions about English that...more
I really enjoyed this. The main thrust of McWhorter's argument--that the shift from Old English to Middle and then Modern English resulted in a grammatical shift affected by the influence of the Brythonic (Welsh, Cornish, Pictish) languages--is one that I already believed based on my own Welsh study in university. I guess I was mostly surprised that it was not a largely accepted argument among linguists, not being myself a professional or academic linguist. But for all that I found his case comp...more
While written in an entertaining and humorous tone, the author belabors a few points a little too much for my taste. He spends almost 70 pages establishing why he is unique among all linguists because of his belief that English has been influenced by Celtic languages. It really could have been written in half the length but he seems to enjoy his own voice.
There are multiple examples provided to support his theories, & he has made this accessible to non-academics, but his tone of "us" (anyone...more
There are multiple examples provided to support his theories, & he has made this accessible to non-academics, but his tone of "us" (anyone...more
This was a fun book--he has a good sense of humor and makes things clear for laymen. Among other things, he gives his arguments for why he believes that the Celts influenced our vocabulary and why he believes the Vikings simplified our grammar (not intentionally, of course).
One of the first things I used to tell my students in Freshman English as that language rules are simply conventions. Of course, I explained that because they WERE the conventions, we had to learn to follow them in certain si...more
One of the first things I used to tell my students in Freshman English as that language rules are simply conventions. Of course, I explained that because they WERE the conventions, we had to learn to follow them in certain si...more
Our Magnificent Bastard Tongue is a short book (less than 200 pages), looking at grammar. McWhorter makes five main points, one of which was completely new and intriguing to me.
1) That the '-ing' present progressive and 'do' constructions in English come from Celtic languages. I had twigged to the former while dabbling in Irish last year; but it seems that both Welsh and Cornish also use the verb 'do' in the equivalent of questions and negatives - Do you agree? I don't agree. McWhorter argues th...more
1) That the '-ing' present progressive and 'do' constructions in English come from Celtic languages. I had twigged to the former while dabbling in Irish last year; but it seems that both Welsh and Cornish also use the verb 'do' in the equivalent of questions and negatives - Do you agree? I don't agree. McWhorter argues th...more
Well written in a jokey style. Written for the layman, but much of what he presents is familiar to someone who know some linguistics. McWhorter, a prof at Berkeley, put forth his theory that English, despite having very few Celtic words other than place names in its lexicon, was strongly influenced by a Celtic substratum. A small group of Anglo-Saxon invaders foisted there language on a much larger Celtic-speaking population who altered the orginial language. The evidence for this comes in the o...more
In Our Magnificent Bastard Tongue, it seems Mr. McWhorter is enjoying himself. While this is usually indicative of an author’s appreciation for his subject and his ability to impart his knowledge of that subject to his audience, Mr. McWhorter has another motive at play. He seems, at times, to enjoy bringing an unorthodox grammar history to the reader, but even more so, he revels in such unorthodoxy’s seeming requisite jabs at fellow critics whose ideas he’s undermining and whose conservative lin...more
A very interesting book with some new theories about the development of the English language from its Germanic roots. I like his comparisons of the members of the “gang” and even more since I am familiar with two of them (ok, one and a half). McWhorter shows without any prejudice that not only all human beings are equal but also all languages though they are very different. It’s an interesting point that a language with an “easy” grammar might be a bigger challenge for the speaker and that the E...more
I read McWhorter's "The Power of Babel" a few years ago and thought it was terrific. His subsequent effort, "Doing our own Thing", was a major disappointment - self-indulgent, undisciplined, and essentially pointless. So I would have skipped this one (a cover blurb that squeezes the chestnuts "rollicking tour" and "rousing celebration" into the same sentence is generally not a good sign). Did I really need reassurance from yet another linguist that it's OK to split an infinitive, or to end a sen...more
I like the way McWhorter thinks and I really enjoy the material. My lower than expected review rating stems from the limited areas he covers.
He addresses the "do" and "ing" of English thoroughly, so thoroughly that it felt like the 400 Blows! I got to feeling "enough already!" (which is not an English construction).
Instead of beating the Celts to death over and over, I would have liked an analysis of other situations where large numbers of non-English adults found themselves forced to speak Eng...more
He addresses the "do" and "ing" of English thoroughly, so thoroughly that it felt like the 400 Blows! I got to feeling "enough already!" (which is not an English construction).
Instead of beating the Celts to death over and over, I would have liked an analysis of other situations where large numbers of non-English adults found themselves forced to speak Eng...more
It may be hard to imagine an untold history of our mother tongue, but McWhorter – a favorite linguist of mine since The Power of Babel and Word on the Street – has managed to discover a new, untrod path using his powers of academic detective-work which leads to a highly provocative and little-known thesis that the deepest roots of English lie not in Anglo-Saxon, as traditionally believed, but through the earliest forms of Old Celtic, whose descendants include modern Welsh. His proof is predicate...more
Six assertions of unexplained significance are belabored into the first three repetitious soporific chapters(literally--1st & last book in all my years that put me to sleep within a page time after time):
1. Most linguists study individual languages & are ignorant of others.
2. This ignorance causes them to exceptionalize and mistake the reasons for changes in the English language.
3. John McWhorter aloneable to synthesis research and theory about all languages to discern the errors.
3. Chan...more
1. Most linguists study individual languages & are ignorant of others.
2. This ignorance causes them to exceptionalize and mistake the reasons for changes in the English language.
3. John McWhorter aloneable to synthesis research and theory about all languages to discern the errors.
3. Chan...more
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One of the great benefits of the series is watching...more
One of the great benefits of the series is watching...more
Unlike Bill Bryson's The Mother Tongue: English and How It Got That Way, which was entertainingly written, but full of egregious errors, this book is actually written by a professional linguist. Fortunately, John H. McWhorter is also a very entertaining writer.
It's a short book, but it tackles some big questions of interest to linguaphiles, such as "Why is English so different from other Indo-European languages? Why do we use "do" in questions and negations, and what is it with English using the...more
It's a short book, but it tackles some big questions of interest to linguaphiles, such as "Why is English so different from other Indo-European languages? Why do we use "do" in questions and negations, and what is it with English using the...more
Every time I tried to explain to someone that I was reading a linguistics book about the history of English, their eyes would kind of glaze over and they would nod in a half-interested way. Too bad, because this book was great fun. McWhorter makes linguistics interesting and accessible to the average reader, and he adds a lot of humor to the mix to keep the book light. The book examines the roots of the unique nature of the English language, including the influence of Celtic languages on our gra...more
An interesting read. McWhorter obviously has pet interests in linguistic history--interests which his readers may not always share (see, e.g., his obsession with the moderately intriguing, but not necessarily fascinating 'meaningless do'). Still, he makes seemingly logical arguments for the influence of Celtic languages on English grammar, the "strip down" of the language as a result of the Vikings, and the possibility that Proto-German finds many of its roots in Phoenician.
In fact, in my opini...more
In fact, in my opini...more
Well, apparently there's a lot more to John McWhorter than that he just happens to be the guy that wrote this book. I guess once you've created a reputation as an esteemed, literate, intellectual African-American schooled in serious linguistics research, people will start throwing you in front of a camera and asking what you think about Obama and what your politics are (social conservatism). Of course I had to watch a few, and couldn't get beyond the fact that his upper lip absolutely does not m...more
While I find the subject of this book very interesting, the author's tone and style are extraordinarily grating. He can't make a point but once, and has to hammer it home over and over again, in the most condescending language possible. He whines and bitches his way through his explanations: "The Welsh! The Cornish! Arrg! My colleagues are idiots!!" "Viking pillaging of the English tongue! just LOOK at the geography, you morons!" Then he takes a really random break in his study of English to den...more
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Dr. John McWhorter is a Senior Fellow at the Manhattan Institute. He earned his B.A. from Rutgers University, his M.A. from New York University, and his Ph.D. in Linguistics from Stanford University. Before taking his position at the Manhattan Institute, he held teaching positions at Cornell University, where he held the position of Assistant Professor, and at the University of California, Berkele...more
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“Oh, those lapses, darling. So many of us walk around letting fly with “errors.” We could do better, but we’re so slovenly, so rushed amid the hurly-burly of modern life, so imprinted by the “let it all hang out” ethos of the sixties, that we don’t bother to observe the “rules” of “correct” grammar.
To a linguist, if I may share, these “rules” occupy the exact same place as the notion of astrology, alchemy, and medicine being based on the four humors. The “rules” make no logical sense in terms of the history of our language, or what languages around the world are like.
Nota bene: linguists savor articulateness in speech and fine composition in writing as much as anyone else. Our position is not—I repeat, not—that we should chuck standards of graceful composition. All of us are agreed that there is usefulness in a standard variety of a language, whose artful and effective usage requires tutelage. No argument there.
The argument is about what constitutes artful and effective usage. Quite a few notions that get around out there have nothing to do with grace or clarity, and are just based on misconceptions about how languages work.
Yet, in my experience, to try to get these things across to laymen often results in the person’s verging on anger. There is a sense that these “rules” just must be right, and that linguists’ purported expertise on language must be somehow flawed on this score. We are, it is said, permissive—perhaps along the lines of the notorious leftist tilt among academics, or maybe as an outgrowth of the roots of linguistics in anthropology, which teaches that all cultures are equal. In any case, we are wrong. Maybe we have a point here and there, but only that.”
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To a linguist, if I may share, these “rules” occupy the exact same place as the notion of astrology, alchemy, and medicine being based on the four humors. The “rules” make no logical sense in terms of the history of our language, or what languages around the world are like.
Nota bene: linguists savor articulateness in speech and fine composition in writing as much as anyone else. Our position is not—I repeat, not—that we should chuck standards of graceful composition. All of us are agreed that there is usefulness in a standard variety of a language, whose artful and effective usage requires tutelage. No argument there.
The argument is about what constitutes artful and effective usage. Quite a few notions that get around out there have nothing to do with grace or clarity, and are just based on misconceptions about how languages work.
Yet, in my experience, to try to get these things across to laymen often results in the person’s verging on anger. There is a sense that these “rules” just must be right, and that linguists’ purported expertise on language must be somehow flawed on this score. We are, it is said, permissive—perhaps along the lines of the notorious leftist tilt among academics, or maybe as an outgrowth of the roots of linguistics in anthropology, which teaches that all cultures are equal. In any case, we are wrong. Maybe we have a point here and there, but only that.”

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