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Religion and the Decline of Magic: Studies in Popular Beliefs in Sixteenth and Seventeenth Century England
by
Keith Thomas
Astrology, witchcraft, magical healing, divination, ancient prophecies, ghosts, and fairies were taken very seriously by people at all social and economic levels in sixteenth- and seventeenth-century England. Helplessness in the face of disease and human disaster helped to perpetuate this belief in magic and the supernatural. As Keith Thomas shows, England during these yea...more
Paperback, 736 pages
Published
August 14th 1997
by Oxford University Press, USA
(first published January 1st 1971)
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One of the great works of social and religious history of the 20th-c. Thomas looks at religion in England--- both "official" and popular religion ---and how over the course of the 1500s and 1600s "magic" was slowly purged from the body of ritual and popular observances. The medieval English Church was a great accreted mass of beliefs and rituals and superstitions where Oxford theology existed alongside wonder-working local relics and saints,and where the line between prayer and spell-casting was...more
Well, I'm glad I bought this year when I was in Montreal. I almost didn't, but then I did. I'm really glad, I did. In fact, Penguin publishing ROCKS! Never doubt them!
Thomas chronicles in easy to read prose the conflict and change among beliefs in magic and religion during the Tudor and Stuart periods in England.
While Thomas believes that the English Reformation had an impact on belief systems, he also looks at the rise of education, newspapers, and science as well. The book is split into sectio...more
Thomas chronicles in easy to read prose the conflict and change among beliefs in magic and religion during the Tudor and Stuart periods in England.
While Thomas believes that the English Reformation had an impact on belief systems, he also looks at the rise of education, newspapers, and science as well. The book is split into sectio...more
Probably every historian of the Reformation (Protestant, Counter-, or Catholic) knows the contents of this book, even if they've never read it. And it says pretty much what everyone thinks it says, in 800 long and sometimes dull, often sexist, usually racist, and almost always paternalist and condescending language. Nonetheless, it is a very important and groundbreaking work on the culture of magic (et al.) in the premodern period, accounting for its widespread appeal, as well as its social and...more
Thomas looks at the transition point from a medieval world to the more modern version as it relates to religion and magic in England. He provides some contrasts to information from the continent, but England is the focus. It is remarkably detailed and examines the reasons that religion and magic were once almost inseparable, but became antithetical. That process came from the nature of change in the reform of Christian religion and was manifest in official pronouncements long before there was mu...more
A powerful book and in-depth study of what really comes down to the paradigm shift from faith-systems that are inclusive of the layperson and allow him/her to participate in the spiritual experience to a system (Christian thought) that, while claiming to free the soul, binds the individual to a corporate system of worship under a culture of professional clergy. Make no mistake though, this is a work of history—and a fine and comprehensive one at that, expertly researched and well-written—and not...more
You may want to slap the author for his racism, sexism and other things. However, it does have a lot of information, and is a valuable reference for anyone studying magic and religion in sixteenth and seventeenth century England. As with all sources, just be careful to keep the author's tendencies in mind when judging the conclusion he draws from the information.
A few of the topics covered are the reformation, magic in the church, magical healing and fairies. Much of the magic of this time perio...more
A few of the topics covered are the reformation, magic in the church, magical healing and fairies. Much of the magic of this time perio...more
This is one of the great milestones in social history, academically rigorous while being not just readable, but actually exciting. A book about changing beliefs and why it was that people could start off believing in magic and witchcraft and end up losing all of that belief in under a hundred years. Not only will you learn a hell of a lot about the period, this book also gives you a vivid impression of what it might have been like to live during these times, just by describing the daily grind th...more
Remembering Nancy Reagan consulting Indian astrologers, Cheri Blair's friend's enthusiasm for crystal therapy or the British Royal Families continued support for Homoeopathy it's hard to feel convinced that the seventeenth century saw a decisive shift in attitudes away from a belief in magic and towards a scientific world view.
That minor point aside the book remains an amazing account of something of the intellectual life of seventeenth century England. The description of the role of astrology i...more
That minor point aside the book remains an amazing account of something of the intellectual life of seventeenth century England. The description of the role of astrology i...more
Astrology, witchcraft, magical healing, divination, ancient prophecies, ghosts, and fairies were taken very seriously by people at all social and economic levels in sixteenth- and seventeenth-century England. Helplessness in the face of disease and human disaster helped to perpetuate this belief in magic and the supernatural. As Keith Thomas shows, England during these years resembled in many ways today's "underdeveloped areas." The English population was exceedingly liable to pain, sickness, an...more
You'd expect this to be a fascinating book, from the title. I found, however, that it took far too long for the writer to get into his argument, aside from the more obvious argument that people engage with religion similarlly to the ways they engage with magic. Add to that his method of presenting evidence, which treated any instance regardless of when it occurred as uniformly relevant. For me, an event that happens in 1540 needs to be accounted for in a different way from something that happene...more
Thomas sets the stage by describing economic and social conditions. During these two centuries, massive poverty and appalling health were the norm. Most children died before age six and the average life-span was only twentyseven so health was a concern. Every religion uses miracles or magic — perhaps a redundancy — to help define its monopoly on the truth. By the time of the Reformation, even though the church did not, as an institution, claim the power to work miracles, it was saddled with a tr...more
Nov 23, 2010
Miriam
rated it
4 of 5 stars
Recommends it for:
history students, those researching paganism/popular religion/superstitions
Recommended to Miriam by:
Tom Kselman
Shelves:
non-fiction
This is more a collection of topical papers than a continuous book. Some essays are stronger/more interesting/more convincing than others. A couple even contradict one another, leading me to suppose that the author wrote them some years apart. But it is well written and certainly worth picking up if you are interested in this period or subject.
The central question as stated by the author is Why did intelligent people believe in magic? In the category of "magic" Thomas includes "astrology, witch...more
The central question as stated by the author is Why did intelligent people believe in magic? In the category of "magic" Thomas includes "astrology, witch...more
I was initially a bit daunted by the prospect of reading such a long history book without the comfort of a narrative and the best I thought of it at first was that it was very informative. However, the first section on magical thinking in religion is the least interesting and the sections on astrology and witchcraft were actually fascinating. A bit too much comparing early modern England to twentieth century 'primitive societies' for my taste - apart from anything it seems a little unhistorical...more
I was born and raised in a fairly rural community in Southern England; Dorset in fact which the author specifically mentions. This book addressed questions that I had mulled over for years such as, Why are the English in general less inclined towards organized religion than North America. What do superstitions and religion have in common?
The book is a perfect backdrop to early Mormon beliefs. The background of Joseph Smith and most of the new converts was English or perhaps British and I recogni...more
The book is a perfect backdrop to early Mormon beliefs. The background of Joseph Smith and most of the new converts was English or perhaps British and I recogni...more
I am frustrated by this book and I don't know if it's the Marxist approach that's making me put it down every few pages and sigh dramatically or if it's his inability (unwillingness?) the gender and socio-economic/class structures at work in constructing witch craft as a punishable offense. And yet he manages to go on for ~800 pages.
(This is maybe not entirely fair, but I am STILL FRUSTRATED.)
(This is maybe not entirely fair, but I am STILL FRUSTRATED.)
Feb 02, 2012
Kris Frantz
added it
Comprehensive and packed full of statistical information about life (and its perils) during the sixteenth century. I want to read it again, actually.
May 19, 2013
Sharmila Mukherjee
marked it as to-read
Recommended highly by novelist Hilary Mantel, who writes an introduction to the latest edition of the book.
I picked up this book hoping it was easy-read pop-history... which is isn't. It's a scholarly work presenting (with references) the phenomenon of witchcraft and folk magic from many different angles, from the "dark" middle ages towards more modern times, in England. It's not actually hard to read but amusement was certainly not among its purposes. I was actually surprised there is so much evidence and references to historical writings and quotes about the topic.
Apr 09, 2012
Snail in Danger (Sid) Nicolaides
marked it as maybe-read-sometime
Recommended to Snail in Danger (Sid) by:
Medieval Panorama
Shelves:
religion,
new-age-esoterica-etc
Basic gist seems to be that the church was seen as a source of supernatural power, but was eventually replaced by technology as it became available. Interesting definition of magic: things we do/believe because there are no demonstrably effective alternatives.
Had no proper bibliography, only endnotes. Consulted some interesting sources though.
Had no proper bibliography, only endnotes. Consulted some interesting sources though.
Thomas does a good job setting up the environment of England in his book in order to help emphasize how intertwined into everyday life the ideas of witchcraft, astrology, fairies, etc. were. He also apologizes for his lack of statistics in his preface, but if you're scared of numbers like me, you'll appreciate it.
May 14, 2010
!Tæmbuŝu
marked it as to-read
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