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Children of the Mind (The Ender Quartet #4)

3.7 of 5 stars 3.70  ·  rating details  ·  59,629 ratings  ·  1,539 reviews
With this conclusion to his famous "Ender's Saga, " Card returns to the story of Ender Wiggin, hero of the Hugo and Nebula Award-winning Ender's Game, Speaker for the Dead, and Xenocide. Now his adopted world, Lusitania, is threatened by the same planet-destroying weapon that he himself used so many years before. Only Jane, the computer intelligence that has evolved with h ...more
Paperback, 370 pages
Published August 24th 2002 by Tor Books (first published 1996)
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Greg Fishbone
I know several readers, myself included, who were blown away by Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card. They then found the sequel, Speaker for the Dead, to be equally as riveting and eagerly reached for Xenocide, book three in the series, with the highest of expectations--only to be slammed with disappointment. This otherwise serviceable book, with an original premise and interesting characters, crashes to an unsatisfying and confusing ending that combines the worst attributes of deus ex machina and ...more
blake
Wraps up the series neatly enough . . . until you stop to think about how ridiculous the entire premise is or how annoying it is that everything seems to fit so nicely together.

I suppose I have to recant the part of my Xenocide review where I called the "birth" of Peter and Young Val "unnecessary." That was obviously a crucial episode for what Card had in store for the series conclusion. But I still won't take back the opinion that it's annoying.

Positives: After starting slowly, the plot did pic
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Goldie
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Jacob
September 2009
Previously: Xenocide

The fleet sent by Starways Congress to destroy the planet Lusitania is getting closer. Any day now. No, really, it'll be here soon, promise! The good news is: Jane, the intelligent supercomputer program, has figured out faster-than-light travel, so the evacuation of Lusitania's native and foreign species is ongoing. The bad news: Congress is trying to shut Jane down. The Lusitania Fleet is on its way (really!). Ender is divided into three bodies (by-product of s
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Alain Dewitt
I just finished this book and I read it not too long after reading 'Xenocide'. I really should review 'Xenocide' but I wanted to get this out while it was still fresh since 'Children of the Mind' was so awful. A full review of 'Xenocide', though, isn't really necessary since both books are terrible and suffer from the same flaws.

The big problem with this book is that Card violates the 'Show, Don't Tell' rule of writing. This book consists almost exclusively of long dialogue between characters an
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Christopher
Whoo, finished, finally. Sometimes you get sucked in a series and you just can't wait until its over because of the command over your whole attention that it has on you. Andrew Wiggin is somebody who we would all like to become; understanding, compassionate, brilliant, and charitable. Yet he is a tragic character who carries the burden of humanity on his shoulders, always taking on more responsibility than is seemed his share.

This final novel is the fast paced, engaging, climax to the series. Sp
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Mario
Don't get me wrong, Orson Scott Card is one of the greats. Ender's series is one of the best series of all time. However, this book was his weakest due to being monotonous and preachy. The characters were going back and forth, stating the same dialogues. I understand the message and the characters' purposes, but the book lasted way too long; thus,I barely finished the book. Of course, there were many moments, but the bad outweighs the good.
Stephen
4.0 to 4.5 stars. Book four of the classic Ender series. Not quite as good as the previous books but still excellent and highly recommended.
Kevin
I couldn't wait to finish this book. The Ender quartet started so strong and got progressively worse with each book. I hated who the characters became in this book (particularly Wang-Mu) and the long-winded monologues about the difficult love relationships got excessive. The tired philosophy and ruminations on the human condition were boring and unwanted.

Children of the Mind started with so much potential but it was poorly executed. I was really hoping to see the ruthless Peter emerge, having b
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Synesthesia (SPIDERS!)
I have to find that quote in this book that PISSES ME OFF. It made me take away a star.

Why so RACIST? To asians and whites! Ever think that maybe Peter just wants to sit in a chair because chairs are more comfortable than kneeling?

Sorry, but what he wrote about Hiroshima and Nagasaki is OFFENSIVE AS ALL FUCK!

I hate this book. I hate OSC's writing. Why did I EVER think he was a good writer?

Oh, that is IT Orson Scott Card. I'm going to go out and DESTROY THE NUCLEAR FAMILY! I will destroy gender
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Monica
I wanted to love this. I really did - after all, I love Miro, who is given a lot more page space, and I was excited to see what Peter would bring to the table. But after Xenocide, it was pretty weak.

Now to make a few comments (ehem, rants)…
a) Why is it that the only truly negative bits in the series come from the women? You know, the only truly unforgivable, unredeemable, unreasonable, and supremely infuriating bits… Let me summarize what these bits were: QUARA, Qing-Jao, and Novinha. Welcome t
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Asa
Well, now I've finished the "Ender Quartet" (or saga, as it's called here) at a very leisurely pace. The first book, Ender's Game, was excellent. Second was Speaker For The Dead, which was great. Then there were Xenocide and this one, both of which were merely okay.

It seems that Xenocide and Children Of The Mind were originally meant to be one book. I suspect that if Xenocide had stayed within its own borders, it would have been much better. These two books are weighed down by a lot of ideas. Th
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Matt
This book actually led me to break two rules of mine: 1) Never give up on a book more than 30 pages in, and 2) Nobody needs to read my review of a book, so what's the point in writing one. But this time I just... I just couldn't do it.

What I loved about Ender's Game was that it's not a blatant, lasers'n'aliens sci-fi novel (although there is NOTHING wrong with laser'n'aliens), so much as it's the story of a boy placed in relatively difficult circumstances, "up against it" if you will, who learns
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Dr Bolderdash
Ender's game was really fun and interesting read. It made me excited to explore more of Card's work. With each subsequent book of the Ender Saga I have enjoyed it less and less.

Throughout the entire series there has been a strong drive to explore philosophical notions of war and survival and the connections between people. In Ender's game it is not too heavy handed and mostly submerged beneath the narrative. By Children of the Mind Card might as well be bludgeoning you over the head with it.

I h
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Warren Pagel
The last book in the sci-fi series following Ender Wiggin is disappointing to say the least. It takes all of the amazing characters introduced in Ender's Game, Speaker for the Dead, and Xenocide and devolves them into what boils down to a soap-opera-in-space.

Card excels at creating interesting characters, but he obviously struggles with writing romance; this is all the more apparent when, in a series that until this book never had any focus on romance between characters, suddenly has romance fo
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Shayna L
Children of the Mind flows from the rest of the Ender saga. Aside from the issues that carry over from the previous book, there's less focus on all the philosophy in the universe and more story. It's mostly about Jane and her bid for survival along side all the peoples and aliens on the world of Lusitania. Like the other books, it's pretty enthralling and opens up the type of moral and philosophical issues that probably have entire sections of the library dedicated to understanding them.
The big
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Djuna
These books are a great combo of sci-fi and philosophy, but I feel like the Ender series begins with the best book and then they gradually lose appeal. The first book in the series was skillfully crafted to weave complex strategy lessons for a child, and I was very pleased with how clever the author was, with only a few areas that were a bit heavy-handed. The subsequent books got a bit more convoluted, and lost some of the brilliance. It seemed like Card spent most of his effort on coming up wit ...more
Duffy Pratt
In each successive book, Card seems to have honed in on the worst points of the last book and then used them as the focus for the new one. This one mostly involves Ender's very serious identity crisis. He's three different people at once, and apparently has barely enough lifeforce or whatever to sustain two lives at once. So something's got to give.

In the meantime, the Lusitania fleet is still hurtling toward the poor planet, and any minute now it might utterly destroy it. One of Ender's selves
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Scott
By far the Ender's book I enjoyed the least. It's overwrought with half-baked, twice-explained philosophical discussions that add very little in terms of content, while doubling the page count. Every chapter is full of extended monologues that come out of nowhere, don't seem realistic, and appear to simply appease the author's need expound upon purely theoretical philosophies in worlds that, by definition, only exist in his head/stories, since its fiction. In Xenocide, Card is able to keep the d ...more
Brett
What could have been the saving grace of the Ender series, ends up being another way to further cast Ender as unimportant and a memory of the past.

Card artfully finds a way to resolve all of the conflicts in this conclusion to the series. However, instead of placing rationality between the characters and their relationships, he causes silly events, like people getting married who know almost nothing about each other and allowing one of the anti-heroes to consume the good, true heroes, well befor
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John
After reading the earlier books in the series, the final installment was really a disappointment. However, since this was essentially the second half of Xenocide (which I actually enjoyed), I pushed myself to finish the book to find out what happens to Ender, the Piggies, the Descolada virus, etc. Sadly, those topics where overwhelmed by the pages and pages devoted to the love stories which were seemingly modeled after a supernatural tween romance. This can be exemplified with the following pass ...more
Jeff Yoak
This book was depressingly awful for me. I've loved this series. Early on I committed to drudging through it as a series with seven novels (before this one) and 9 short stories, ranging from good reads to loved, calls for great patience in reading the last story. I just couldn't make it. "Life is too short." took over.

The first full half of the novel consists of pairing off characters, sending them to remote locations, and then switching between scenes of the pairs bickering with each other. Ter
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Neil
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Simon Mcleish
Originally published on my blog here in July 2001.

The story of Ender Wiggin, one of the most famous in modern science fiction, is brought to a close in this novel, originally intended to be part of Xenocide, from which it follows on immediately. The planet of Lusitania, home of the hive queen saved by Ender and of the third sentient species known to mankind, the pequeninos, is threatened with destruction by a fleet sent by the Starways Congress, because it is infected by the devastating descolad
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Chris Youngblood
I originally was going to read the Orson Scott Card books simply because of the fact that they are science fiction, and because people constantly reference his series as one of the seminal collections of SF. However, I have since discovered that Mr. Card is a disgusting homophobe and misogynist, and I will not support a narrow-minded, religious zealot like this one by buying his books.

The man even had the unmitigated gall to try to re-write a version of Hamlet portraying Hamlet's father as both
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Nancy O'Toole
The end is coming. Starways Congress has sent the little doctor, a weapon that can destroy an entire planet, to the world of Lusitania, regardless of the fact that the Descolada virus has been cured. Meanwhile, they have also discovered the existence of Jane, a computer program that has grown into a being of consciousness, and is planning on destroying her due to her inconvenient interference. It will take the efforts of everyone to stop Starways Congress, save Lusitania, and keep Jane alive.

Chi
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Mirek Kukla
"Children of the Mind" is a pretty weird, mostly entertaining, and often surprisingly thoughtful bit of science fiction. Taken as the conclusion to an ambitious series, it's found wanting: as the fourth and final book in "Ender Quartet", it resolves all of the obvious conflicts raised over the course of the series, but leaves a number of deeper questions unanswered. Taken in isolation and on its own merits, however, "Children of the Mind" is an interesting novel that probes some weighty philosop ...more
Kelly
Sep 15, 2013 Kelly rated it 4 of 5 stars
Recommends it for: All Is Well
Update (09/15/13): Why won't Goodreads take this off my "Currently Reading" list. I have starred it and reviewed it. Come on, Goodreads. Stop telling me I am still reading this book. It confuses me!

I had a lot of trouble getting into this book. I wonder if it was because I read books one through three back-to-back and by the time I came to this, book four, I was getting tired of the story. But, I got distracted in the middle, took some time out and read a couple other books, and then came back t
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Cherie
So I just finished children of the mind, the last book In the ender's series.... I gotta say, I found myself completely drained after reading xenocide so it was pretty difficult to get into this one.

First of all, I can't say that I particularly enjoyed the little passages from Qing-jao at the beginning of each chapter... I find her to be extremely annoying, even when she's being philosophical... I think Orson Scott card just wanted to leave her character with remaining dignity in hopes that rea
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Mike
I couldn't take Novinha or Qing-jao any longer, detestable creatures (later on, Quara joins this group!). Up to the tea party, I despaired of even finishing this one. But I started to laugh at the repartee and manuevering for position. From this point forward, it just got better and better. 4 1/2 stars for the final chapter in Ender's tale, Children of the Mind. Card is willing to take on big ethical questions on what constitutes just actions against strangers that may or may not be enemies. His ...more
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Orson Scott Card is the author of the novels Ender's Game, Ender's Shadow, and Speaker for the Dead, which are widely read by adults and younger readers, and are increasingly used in schools.
Besides these and other science fiction novels, Card writes contemporary fantasy (Magic Street, Enchantment, Lost Boys), biblical novels (Stone Tables, Rachel and Leah), the American frontier fantasy series Th
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