Lila: An Inquiry Into Morals
by Robert M. Pirsig
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Read in April, 2008
Like Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance, this book has a lot of deep philosophical discussion interlaced with stories of a journey of some sort that Phaedrus (the author in his earlier life) is on. In this one, Pirsig is on a trip to sail down the Hudson River into the Atlantic and then down to Florida. The story begins just outside of Manhattan where he encounters a mysterious woman named Lila who spends a few days on his boat with him. She is somewhat of an unsavory character, and lat...more
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Read in May, 2008
I read this book because I liked Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance so much. The thing is, where the philosophic musings of Zen seemed tangential to the narrative element, and helped illuminate it, Lila had a narrative that was tangential to the philosophy, and did little for it.
Pirsig may even have recognized this himself, and what he says just a few pages before the end of the book could serve as a review of the book itself: "It attempts to capture the Dyn...more
Pirsig may even have recognized this himself, and what he says just a few pages before the end of the book could serve as a review of the book itself: "It attempts to capture the Dyn...more
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I like Lila better than its prequel, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance, which is saying quite a bit - Zen is one of my very favorite books.
In the decades between the books' publications, Pirsig's philosophy matured considerably; this book is simpler, more direct, and more eloquent than its predecessor.
"When he was young Phædrus used to think about cows and pigs and chickens an...more
In the decades between the books' publications, Pirsig's philosophy matured considerably; this book is simpler, more direct, and more eloquent than its predecessor.
"When he was young Phædrus used to think about cows and pigs and chickens an...more
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Read in November, 2007
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anyone questioning morality, convention, or society
This book started out quite promisingly. It had some really amazing, mind-blowing parts. But near the middle of the book there is a light drizzle and then a torrent of classism and a touch of veiled racism. The ending is also rather disappointing. The book hovers between epiphany and wrongheadedness. It was to be fair, a very ambitious topic, constructing an entirely new metaphysics based on the value as an intuitive undefinable concept. The sort of project where it is easy to lose your way.
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Read in January, 2008
Great, great book !
A bit different in respect of "Zen and the art...", but with some points in common, as well....(narrative style amidst fiction and non-fiction; great reflections also in narrative style; the protagonist, Phaedrus, is the son of the protagonist of the better known "Zen and the art..." by the same author.
There are a few central concepts that comes along the narrative plot, such as Quality, in particular Dynamic Quality; the concept of Moral; the hier...more
A bit different in respect of "Zen and the art...", but with some points in common, as well....(narrative style amidst fiction and non-fiction; great reflections also in narrative style; the protagonist, Phaedrus, is the son of the protagonist of the better known "Zen and the art..." by the same author.
There are a few central concepts that comes along the narrative plot, such as Quality, in particular Dynamic Quality; the concept of Moral; the hier...more
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Read in December, 2000
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I rate this book above "Zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance", which is what got me searching for more of Robert Prisig's works. It’s a quite sometime since I read this book.
This book is not for those who don't take to philosophy kindly. It is a slow read since there are a lot references weaving in and out of different chapters - typical of a PhD mind, I think. The wonderful part of this book is the analysis of the human psyche and human behavior under different circumstance...more
This book is not for those who don't take to philosophy kindly. It is a slow read since there are a lot references weaving in and out of different chapters - typical of a PhD mind, I think. The wonderful part of this book is the analysis of the human psyche and human behavior under different circumstance...more
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Read in October, 2007
Robert Pirsig tries to tackle the difficult task of re-working a new morality based on his idea of the Metaphysics of Quality. I found this book much more intriguing than his first book. He surmises that our current relativistic morality is self-destructive because it leaves the individual/Society/Intellectual realms all following different self-serving directions. He believes they all need a common direction, the perfecting of humanity. He tries to do this by doing what he says shouldn't be...more
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Read in February, 2008
The philosophy presented in Lila was thought provoking and accessible in the same way that Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintainance was. Also like ZAMM, Pirsig weaves his abstract ideas into a narrative that helps to illustrate his concepts without being didactic or artificial. He manages to explain his metaphysics in a way that feels relevant to the everyday experience.
I'm glad he addresses race as one of his central issues, but his treatment of it was a bit heavy-handed if not overtly ra...more
I'm glad he addresses race as one of his central issues, but his treatment of it was a bit heavy-handed if not overtly ra...more
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I haven't read Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance, but from what I understand, Pirsig spends the entire book arriving at the notion of Quality. In Lila, he expands this into a metaphysical framework, which has since come to be called the Metaphysics of Quality ([http://moq.org]). It's more of a philosophical treatise than a novel, and the MoQ is an interesting and appealing framework.
I may actually not get around to reading ZMM, but Lila stands well on its own.
I may actually not get around to reading ZMM, but Lila stands well on its own.
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Read in January, 2007
This is an excellent philosophical treatise, with profound exploration of the trio of biology, society and ideas. The exploration of Quality as well as the static-vs-dynamic duality has broadened my mind in the same way as the Zen Guide to Motorcycle Maintenance. The only complaint which I have is the less... understandable context of the lessons. Zen had a perfectly natural rational to frame the discussion, while Lila seemed to have more philosophy with a less solid grounding in a real-world...more
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Read in November, 2007
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This was a fantastic read. There were two "mind-blowing" branches in this book. The first centers around evolution and morality among the three basic forces: biology, society, and intellectualism. The second talks about morality and ties into quality in terms of metaphysics and having "quality" be a scientific metric to judge things. This was a great book - more accessible than its predecessor (to me) and caused me to think quite a bit.
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Read in August, 2002
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People who liked Zen and the Art of motorcycle Maintenance
I really liked this book, because it was almost as well written as Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance, and interestingly deschribed the life of the author after he gained fame.
In this book the philosophies presented in Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance are extended, expanded, and augmented. In "Lila" these philosophies may be somewhat misapplied to the morals of a sexual relationship between a man and woman. Nonetheless, I found this book to be entertaining to read
In this book the philosophies presented in Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance are extended, expanded, and augmented. In "Lila" these philosophies may be somewhat misapplied to the morals of a sexual relationship between a man and woman. Nonetheless, I found this book to be entertaining to read
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I found ZMM to be far superior to Lila, which was rather a letdown to me after waiting so many years for his next book. I think he must have been one of those writers who had one great book inside him. I mean his conclusion here, that all people have worth, is presented as some astonishing revelation, and of course it is. It's just that it's a revelation that quite a few others have had before him.
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Read in January, 1997
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Like Zen and the Art of MM, he investigates/explores the giant philosophic questions - life's questions - within a perfectly written tale of human curiosity, isolation and connection and mostly, insanity - all the stuff I LOVE!
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Read in January, 1993
The philsophical inconsistencies between this and Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance, made me want to write an argumentative letter to the author .. . which I take as evidence that he had something of import to say.
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My friend gave me this book at least ten years ago, and I never once read it. Just recently I picked it up and after having read the first chapter, I'm thinking this is going to be a good read. The main character seems to have some sort obsessive compulsive disorder going on, so his views and perceptions are intriguing.
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One of the first books during Peace Corps that I decided not to finish. I was digging the first part but it was definitely written a long time after Zen and I was expecting Zen...maybe I wasn't fair.
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pirsig's follow-up to zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance. he tries to expand on the various notions deployed in the first book. but i think he should have stopped with the first book.
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Read in January, 1993
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Mr. Persig...what the fuck?? "Inquiry into morals?" You almost had me up to the narrator-speaking-to-doll's-head thing. Please tell your agent to smack you, hard.
Oy.
Oy.
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Need to read this after enjoying Zen and the Art of Motorcycle maintenance.
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