Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom
On The Skids In The Transhuman Future
Jules is a young man barely a century old. He's lived long enough to see the cure for death and the end of scarcity, to learn ten languages and compose three symphonies...and to realize his boyhood dream of taking up residence in Disney World.
Disney World! The greatest artistic achievement of the long-ago twentieth century. Now in the k...more
Jules is a young man barely a century old. He's lived long enough to see the cure for death and the end of scarcity, to learn ten languages and compose three symphonies...and to realize his boyhood dream of taking up residence in Disney World.
Disney World! The greatest artistic achievement of the long-ago twentieth century. Now in the k...more
Paperback, 208 pages
Published
December 5th 2003
by Tor Books
(first published January 1st 2003)
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Messy, unfocused. Characters are poorly-formed and unlikeable. Doctorow starts out with several intriguing conceits -- eternal life though computer-style backups and clones, the evolution of themed environments, hard currency replaced by popular esteem -- but he can't decide which one he finds most intriguing, and he even loses those prime notions a few times through needless tangents.
Doctorow obviously loves the cyberpunk novels of Neal Stephenson (which are themselves a tangle of ideas and tan...more
Doctorow obviously loves the cyberpunk novels of Neal Stephenson (which are themselves a tangle of ideas and tan...more
One of the many complaints I hear about Cory Doctorow's Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom is that it is "shallow." Readers see a shallowness in character, a shallowness in the work they choose, a shallowness in story depth, and a shallowness in the story's morality.
I don't see it myself.
Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom may seem shallow, but there is a great deal of depth to be found if one approaches the book with a willingness to overcome the prejudices and perspectives of our current cultur...more
I don't see it myself.
Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom may seem shallow, but there is a great deal of depth to be found if one approaches the book with a willingness to overcome the prejudices and perspectives of our current cultur...more
Cory Doctorow's novella spins a tale set in the "Bitchun society" - a time in the future where death has been cured and money has been replaced by a system of respect/popularity points that's immediately accessible since everyone somehow has the internet in their heads now.
The "Magic Kingdom" referenced in the title is THE Magic Kingdom - the story takes place in Disney World, which has taken on an elevated importance in a world where people no longer have jobs or, essentially, purpose.
It's sho...more
The "Magic Kingdom" referenced in the title is THE Magic Kingdom - the story takes place in Disney World, which has taken on an elevated importance in a world where people no longer have jobs or, essentially, purpose.
It's sho...more
Jan 27, 2011
Joel
rated it
2 of 5 stars
Recommends it for:
Cory Doctorow
Recommended to Joel by:
Cory Doctorow
Even though I find him massively annoying in the way I always find professional bloggers annoying (read: if I am honest with myself, it probably has mostly to do with jealousy), I have to admit, I think it is pretty cool that Cory Doctorow gives away all of his books for free (the smug bastard).
I listened to a surprisingly well-produced amateur audiobook of this one about a year ago (you can probably still grab it free from... wherever it was I found it. Podiobooks.com?) and even though I didn'...more
I listened to a surprisingly well-produced amateur audiobook of this one about a year ago (you can probably still grab it free from... wherever it was I found it. Podiobooks.com?) and even though I didn'...more
Aug 11, 2008
John
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In Cory Doctorow's Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom, times sure seem to have changed from today. Something called "Free Energy" has basically eliminated scarcity, while the ability to make computer backups of the self and download them into cloned bodies has eliminated death (and, for that matter, revolutionized medicine, since all defects can be fixed by downloading to a new body). Without scarcity, both work and money have become more or less obsolete, and been replaced by Whuffie, which meas...more
A posthuman novel set at Disney World? Wow, this book was written for me! It's been about a century or so since a cure for death and the end of scarcity, and backups of people are downloaded into clones if they die. The narrator Julius works at Walt Disney World as part of an ad-hoc committee that controls Liberty Square. The Disney cast actually makes their own management decisions! Woohoo, no hierarchy in the Disney workplace. Maybe that only excites me because I used to work there and found i...more
(The much longer full review can be found at the Chicago Center for Literature and Photography [cclapcenter.com].)
Okay, so it's finally time; time for me to finally make my way through the complete works of cutting-edge science-fiction author Cory Doctorow. After all, he's one of the four editors of my favorite website of all time, the profoundly unique pop-culture journal Boing Boing; and Doctorow's also a big champion of the exact political issues CCLaP cares about as well, including copyright...more
Okay, so it's finally time; time for me to finally make my way through the complete works of cutting-edge science-fiction author Cory Doctorow. After all, he's one of the four editors of my favorite website of all time, the profoundly unique pop-culture journal Boing Boing; and Doctorow's also a big champion of the exact political issues CCLaP cares about as well, including copyright...more
Nov 27, 2007
Simon
rated it
2 of 5 stars
Recommends it for:
Bookclubs; Utopians/Dystopians; Anyone who actually believes the Singularity is Near....
Here we are, living and dying (again) in Orange County, FLA.
Thought provoking cocktail party fodder. I disliked Doctorow’s mitten-fisted writing, banal hippie-dippy characters (Beatles references included); however, the points I found interesting don’t concern the people as much as the technology.
Don't bother to savor the words. Read it quickly for the premise, then debate the promise of "TomorrowLand."
Essentially a problematic book that I disliked in execution, but highly discussable.
Thought provoking cocktail party fodder. I disliked Doctorow’s mitten-fisted writing, banal hippie-dippy characters (Beatles references included); however, the points I found interesting don’t concern the people as much as the technology.
Don't bother to savor the words. Read it quickly for the premise, then debate the promise of "TomorrowLand."
Essentially a problematic book that I disliked in execution, but highly discussable.
I'm torn when it comes to Cory Doctorow. In one sense, I am totally into the fact that the guy is obviously a student of 80's cyberpunk and computer technology in general. However, when I read this book, something didn't seem right about the whole thing. The best analogy I can come up with is working hard all day and thinking about eating steak for dinner, but then coming home to find out that you're getting a McDonald's cheeseburger. The technology and the ideas are there, but the story did not...more
Jul 24, 2008
Sandi
rated it
3 of 5 stars
Recommended to Sandi by:
SciFi and Fantasy Book Club August Theme Book
As a native Southern Californian who has been to Disneyland a minimum of once per year since before birth, how could I pass up a book that combines science fiction with Disney?
I was really torn between giving this three stars or four. It scores high for creativity. It's got a very tight plot and some interesting ideas. It takes place at Disney World's Magic Kingdom. I've been there once, but it's so much like Disneyland that all the ride references made sense even if the geography changed. It's...more
I was really torn between giving this three stars or four. It scores high for creativity. It's got a very tight plot and some interesting ideas. It takes place at Disney World's Magic Kingdom. I've been there once, but it's so much like Disneyland that all the ride references made sense even if the geography changed. It's...more
What I enjoyed about this book was the fascinating picture of the future. Apparently in the future, there has been a cure for death, and people can be altered to look any age. Their brains are also like computers, where memory needs to be backed up in case of death so the body can be regenerated. Also, brain/computers are interlinked on a type of network, so someone can mentally “call” someone else’s brain to talk. I really liked reading about the setting of the story, but sadly, the story itsel...more
In a lot of science fiction, plot and characters are merely vehicles for the author's vision of his world. Philip K. Dick is not remembered for his creation of Bob Arctor, for instance, but for his postulation of a existence where identity is as fluid and changeable as the clothes you wear.
Cory Doctorow's world in the Magic Kingdom made a lasting impression on me, though i remember his characters less than his world. This is not to say that plot or characters are weak in any way, but that the w...more
Cory Doctorow's world in the Magic Kingdom made a lasting impression on me, though i remember his characters less than his world. This is not to say that plot or characters are weak in any way, but that the w...more
Може би поради дозите динамика и пряка реч, леко в повече за моя вкус, не успях изцяло да потъна в тази версия на Света на Дисни. Но на по-заклетите от мен фенове на жанра тя ще се хареса със сигурност.
Продължавам да не разбирам защо още си няма издател на хартия, при положение, че книжарниците непрекъснато са заливани с всевъзможни тъпи, скучни, сладникави и даже вредни книги.
Продължавам да не разбирам защо още си няма издател на хартия, при положение, че книжарниците непрекъснато са заливани с всевъзможни тъпи, скучни, сладникави и даже вредни книги.
In the future, when we have cured damn near every disease and licked practically every problem society has thrown our way, the only battles worth fighting are fought over our culture: do we preserve it, reminding future generation that some things are worth holding on to, or do we plow ahead, looking only to the future? Those are some of the questions this book asks, when a handful of groups fight a cold war against each other over the future of Disneyland.
The book is also damn funny and invent...more
The book is also damn funny and invent...more
Another gimmick that is fun for a chapter. The central theme that it is a society which pays you with digital social rating you can spend rather then money is unique, but it is this very concept that create the most blatant holes in the story. What makes it so special is what somewhat destroys the story simultaneously.
One thing going for it is that is visual treat. If you’re a fan of Disneyland or other theme parks, I think you will appreciate the comedy and behind the scenes and it's look theme...more
One thing going for it is that is visual treat. If you’re a fan of Disneyland or other theme parks, I think you will appreciate the comedy and behind the scenes and it's look theme...more
I thought the general premise was interesting, and I was invested in learning more about this world that Doctorow had created, but I also think he wrote himself into a corner with that premise. By eliminating death as a real consequence and then using a murder (plus the threat of more murders) as the catalyst for the plot, he stripped the narrative tension away. One of the first things I learned was that death is a minor inconvenience, so then the murder didn't really mean much to me, no matter...more
There's a weird, weird, weird Cory Doctorow story set in a theme park, and it haunts and confounds me, but this isn't it.
This novel seems strongly dated for me to the late 90s / early 00s era of science fiction, with its giddy techno-utopianism*, dodgy immortality, and jubilant transhumanism. At least there's no singularity.
This book has all the strengths and weaknesses of that subgenre--my understanding is that it was written as an example and an homage. Cool ideas are piled one on top of the o...more
This novel seems strongly dated for me to the late 90s / early 00s era of science fiction, with its giddy techno-utopianism*, dodgy immortality, and jubilant transhumanism. At least there's no singularity.
This book has all the strengths and weaknesses of that subgenre--my understanding is that it was written as an example and an homage. Cool ideas are piled one on top of the o...more
Interesting world, forgettable characters, meandering middle with a decent ending.
I really struggled to finish this book, it was most as bad as his short story "True Names". This is my least favorite of his works with only "True Names" being worse.
The setup of the world and the story were enough to get me invested, but the middle part of this book just about killed it for me. The flash backs add little and whole parts of this book could have been cut. Some times it was difficult to tell when a f...more
I really struggled to finish this book, it was most as bad as his short story "True Names". This is my least favorite of his works with only "True Names" being worse.
The setup of the world and the story were enough to get me invested, but the middle part of this book just about killed it for me. The flash backs add little and whole parts of this book could have been cut. Some times it was difficult to tell when a f...more
If scarcity and death were eliminated, what would people do with their time? Doctorow hints at (and occasionally provides some detail about) a lot of things people might do, but he focuses on the people who spend their time running Disney World. In Doctorow's world, everybody's wired and backed up, death is a temporary inconvenience and reputation is literally a form of currency (imagine if your Facebook Edge Rank or number of Twitter followers doubled as your bank account and affected how peopl...more
Title: Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom
Author: Cory Doctorow
Publisher: TOR, Copyright 2003
Genre: Science Fiction
A digital edition of this book is available free from Cory Doctorow’s Website (http://craphound.com/down/download.php) and from Project Gutenberg (http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/8086).
• Involuntary death has been vanquished. If you’re ill, injured, or simply sick of yourself the way you are, your consciousness can be uploaded from your last backup into a new, cloned, body, which can...more
Author: Cory Doctorow
Publisher: TOR, Copyright 2003
Genre: Science Fiction
A digital edition of this book is available free from Cory Doctorow’s Website (http://craphound.com/down/download.php) and from Project Gutenberg (http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/8086).
• Involuntary death has been vanquished. If you’re ill, injured, or simply sick of yourself the way you are, your consciousness can be uploaded from your last backup into a new, cloned, body, which can...more
Without doubt, Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom has at its core a particularly clever premise. It's set in a future world where the Bitchun Society has overcome reality as we know it via promoting an alternative to death. In short, the living periodically upload their memories and, upon death, those who have authorized it can be reuploaded to a clone. (Sadly, the logistics of the clone part--clone of what, exactly?--were never explained.) Moreover, if folks want to just "tune out" for a while,...more
I found "Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom" by Cory Doctorow to be a very entertaining, thought provoking and fast read.
The primary storyline takes place in a future setting wherein humanity has essentially conquered death, disease, pestilence and a variety of other bad things. Force grown clones, memory backups, hyper-tech and body modifications have become the norm. Our prestige is measured in a universal current called Wuffie which tracks and measures our every interaction. Through the primar...more
The primary storyline takes place in a future setting wherein humanity has essentially conquered death, disease, pestilence and a variety of other bad things. Force grown clones, memory backups, hyper-tech and body modifications have become the norm. Our prestige is measured in a universal current called Wuffie which tracks and measures our every interaction. Through the primar...more
I was familiar with some of Cory Doctorow's short stories and I had read his second novel, Eastern Standard Tribe. Most of what I liked about him was his manic absurdness mixed with hardcore computer geekspeak to the point of including lines of code. It was highly creative for the early part of the Millenium. His short stories, especially Ownzored, required a sophisticated level of computer science knowledge and deeply rewarded those who knew what he was talking about.
I picked this up in the loc...more
I picked this up in the loc...more
Thank god for Cory Doctorow. Thanks to him and his quest to Understand the Future one's reading device can be packed full of Corey Doctorow novels for free and guilt free.
And his novels are fun, light gooey balls of science fictional zanyness. Bonus!
That's not to say that these novels are actually good. Near as I can tell Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom is an exercise in whether or not one can produce a compelling story where absolutely nothing is at stake.
I mean, the premise is that in the...more
And his novels are fun, light gooey balls of science fictional zanyness. Bonus!
That's not to say that these novels are actually good. Near as I can tell Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom is an exercise in whether or not one can produce a compelling story where absolutely nothing is at stake.
I mean, the premise is that in the...more
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I reread this for a number of reasons. At one level, the shallowest, least important level, because I hadn't read any fiction for weeks, just long form journalism in my Instapaper queue. But also because I'd been wondering about fantasy equivalents of what cyberpunk was trying to achieve in sci fi, and was contrasting this post-cyberpunk novel to help fix in my head what cyberpunk was doing.
And also lastly because I read the Valve employee manual, and it remin...more
I reread this for a number of reasons. At one level, the shallowest, least important level, because I hadn't read any fiction for weeks, just long form journalism in my Instapaper queue. But also because I'd been wondering about fantasy equivalents of what cyberpunk was trying to achieve in sci fi, and was contrasting this post-cyberpunk novel to help fix in my head what cyberpunk was doing.
And also lastly because I read the Valve employee manual, and it remin...more
Title: Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom
Author: Cory Doctorow
Year of Publication: 2003
Publisher: Tor
Page count: 206
I have always enjoyed reading Cory Doctorow’s work. I eagerly pick up the things Doctorow has published, excited for the outlandish ideas and deadpan humor. Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom was no exception.
Despite Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom being a scant 200 pages, there is a lot of action packed into the book. We’re introduced to Bitchun, the society of the future. Bitchu...more
Author: Cory Doctorow
Year of Publication: 2003
Publisher: Tor
Page count: 206
I have always enjoyed reading Cory Doctorow’s work. I eagerly pick up the things Doctorow has published, excited for the outlandish ideas and deadpan humor. Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom was no exception.
Despite Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom being a scant 200 pages, there is a lot of action packed into the book. We’re introduced to Bitchun, the society of the future. Bitchu...more
First three chapters are great. Then it gets kinda boring. But totally love the idea of Whuffie!
I’d not been impressed with the little snippets of this book that author Cory Doctorow had posted to BoingBong at various times, but Doyce swore that it was a truly keen read, especially for someone with an appreciation for Disney theme parks, so I gave it a whirl (read: he pressed his copy of the book into my hands and insisted I read it. Since I’ve done the same to him innumerable times, it seemed only fair …)
As it turns out, the reality is somewhere in-between the fascination that Doyce had a...more
As it turns out, the reality is somewhere in-between the fascination that Doyce had a...more
Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom by Cory Doctorow is what happens when a classic geek extrapolates the cyberpunk future of a reputation-based economy combined with the extrusion of an open source ethos into the management of everyday affairs, tosses in immortality and lean project management, and sets it all in the context of the semi-religious experience of Disney World.
A well-crafted amusement park ride of the Disney-variety leads you through a thrilling story in a matter of minutes. The rid
When I started to wrap my head around the world that Doctorow was laying out, I had trouble figuring out what would be the conflict of this book. It's pretty hard core science fiction, full of predictions of technologies and their social ramifications. If we no longer had to fear death or illness and no one went without shelter and food and copious entertainment, what kind of conflicts would be left? Whenever you have a utopia novel, it usually ends in either discovering that the utopia is actua...more
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Canadian blogger, journalist and science fiction author who serves as co-editor of the blog Boing Boing.
He is an activist in favor of liberalizing copyright laws and a proponent of the Creative Commons organization, using some of their licenses for his books.
Some common themes of his work include digital rights management, file sharing, Disney, and post-scarcity economics.
http://us.macmillan.com...more
More about Cory Doctorow...
He is an activist in favor of liberalizing copyright laws and a proponent of the Creative Commons organization, using some of their licenses for his books.
Some common themes of his work include digital rights management, file sharing, Disney, and post-scarcity economics.
http://us.macmillan.com...more
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