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The Secret History
by
Donna Tartt
Richard Papen arrived at Hampden College in New England and was quickly seduced by an elite group of five students, all Greek scholars, all worldly, self-assured, and, at first glance, all highly unapproachable. As Richard is drawn into their inner circle, he learns a terrifying secret that binds them to one another...a secret about an incident in the woods in the dead of...more
Hardcover, 559 pages
Published
April 13th 2004
by Vintage
(first published 1992)
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Okay, this book. This book was a lot of fun, partially, I think, because it was written in this fashion which made determining whether this was past, present or future virtually impossible. It was very romantically written and I tend to go for that sort of thing: simple meals of tomato soup and skim milk, five college-aged students who drink tea as well as burbon, scotch and on occasion whiskey--but not with anything as muddled and middle-class as coke mixed in--no, they drink it on ice, in thic...more
The first paragraph of The Secret History roughly sums up the mood of the book. In it, the narrator, Richard Papen, says that he thinks his fatal flaw is 'a morbid longing for the picturesque at all costs'. If you can relate to these words, chances are you'll love The Secret History. If not, you'll probably wonder what the fuss is all about. Personally, I can totally relate to these words, so I love the book. I've read it over half a dozen times, and while I do think it has its problems, I never...more
Apparently the New York Times described The Secret History as "Powerful...Enthralling...A ferociously well-paced entertainment" and Time said "A smart, craftsman-like, viscerally compelling novel."
Very funny, guys, ha ha and all that. They're such jolly jokesters. They'll have you believing anything. The Secret History is complete tripe - no, that's harsh, let me put it another way - it's COMPLETE TRIPE - oh dear, this keyboard has a mind of its own! and is very firm about its opinions too! - b...more
Very funny, guys, ha ha and all that. They're such jolly jokesters. They'll have you believing anything. The Secret History is complete tripe - no, that's harsh, let me put it another way - it's COMPLETE TRIPE - oh dear, this keyboard has a mind of its own! and is very firm about its opinions too! - b...more
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This novel, like so many other first novels, is full of everything that the author wants to show off about herself. Like a freshman who annoys everyone with her overbearing sense of importance and unfathomable potential, Donna Tartt wrote this book as though the world couldn't wait to read about all of the bottled-up personal beliefs, literary references, and colorfully apt metaphors that she had been storing up since the age of 17.
The most fundamentally unlikable thing about this book is that a...more
The most fundamentally unlikable thing about this book is that a...more
I remember that I liked it when I read it. But I don't recall that much of the book, and in general my system is that the less I remember, the more I mark it down. Of course, that could say more about me than about the book.
I do recall being just a little skeptical about how good the author's knowledge of classics was. It's not like I know anything about the subject - I did a couple of years of Latin at school, which I hated, and I only just passed my exams. But there were a couple of funny mome...more
I do recall being just a little skeptical about how good the author's knowledge of classics was. It's not like I know anything about the subject - I did a couple of years of Latin at school, which I hated, and I only just passed my exams. But there were a couple of funny mome...more
Oct 17, 2007
Abby
rated it
5 of 5 stars
Recommends it for:
anyone who went to a liberal arts college
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The Secret History by Donna Tartt is like drinking the scotch the characters drink in the book: smooth, sweet, smoky and scalding. You keep drinking, having no idea how drunk your getting. Then you try to stand up and the world falls out from under your feet.
The Secret History captured me from the first page with the introduction of the narrator, Richard, and his memories of Hampden College in Vermont. He falls in with a group of "Intellectuals" studying the Classics under the tutelage of an ec...more
The Secret History captured me from the first page with the introduction of the narrator, Richard, and his memories of Hampden College in Vermont. He falls in with a group of "Intellectuals" studying the Classics under the tutelage of an ec...more
Someone just brought up Nietzsche’s Apollonian vs. Dionysian theory, which is described at the link below, if you are as unfamiliar as I was. http://www.geocities.com/danielmacrya...
Apparently Donna Tartt was well-versed in this theme, as it is prevalent in The Secret History. The gist of Nietzsche’s theory is that the ancient Greeks attained such a high level of culture mainly due to their personal struggle between the opposing philosophies of Apollo and Dionysus; Apollo being the god of art, a...more
Apparently Donna Tartt was well-versed in this theme, as it is prevalent in The Secret History. The gist of Nietzsche’s theory is that the ancient Greeks attained such a high level of culture mainly due to their personal struggle between the opposing philosophies of Apollo and Dionysus; Apollo being the god of art, a...more
The Secret History is about as convincing as Less Than Zero. how has this book stayed so popular? well, Less Than Zero also remains popular. i'll take lev grossman's The Magicians over both of them, and that one is aggravating too. (1) i'm so tired of people who are so tired of everything! (1b) ennui is so very boring, almost as boring as (2) pretentious know-it-alls. this book manages to combine all three. i learned nothing except a new way to be irritated. oh, donna tartt... as if!
I’ve read this book probably half a dozen times since I first picked it up in grad school. It’s so thoroughly addictive, for a number of reasons. First, Tartt accomplishes the difficult feat of writing an intellectual novel that is obsessively detail-oriented and yet is an incredibly well-paced mystery. You learn about a murder on the first page, and then the whole novel unravels for you how it happened, with liberal doses of ancient Greek literary and philosophical references thrown in. Second,...more
(aka Dead Poets Society ... of DOOM!)
The characters all see the collision coming, as if in slow motion. The time and place are set; they could have turned away, but chose not to, and the story is the path to that explosive collision and the trajectory all the broken parts follow as they burst and separate.
I'm not much for mysteries. Someone dies, someone did it, and so much time is spent finding out who and why. Tartt gives you the who immediately, and although it's never particularly clear WHY,...more
The characters all see the collision coming, as if in slow motion. The time and place are set; they could have turned away, but chose not to, and the story is the path to that explosive collision and the trajectory all the broken parts follow as they burst and separate.
I'm not much for mysteries. Someone dies, someone did it, and so much time is spent finding out who and why. Tartt gives you the who immediately, and although it's never particularly clear WHY,...more
Jul 04, 2011
Shovelmonkey1
rated it
4 of 5 stars
Recommends it for:
people who won't be disappointed that not everyone dies
Recommended to Shovelmonkey1 by:
1001 book group on GR
Shelves:
1001-books,
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Ah smug and mostly over privileged college kids run amock in a half-arsed orgy of sex (or at least some illicit below the belt touching), drugs and classical music (no rock n roll at this Bacchanalian blood fest - that would be way too low brow). I could not stop myself from imagining the cast of Buffy in the title roles if this gets made into a film. Maybe it has been made into a film? I have a proven Goodreads review history of not knowing that books have already been made into films... anyway...more
I have mixed feelings on this one.
The book centers around a very small/elite group of students studying Greek at a rural New England college. From the very first page, we know that one of these students was killed, and by whom. What we don't know is why.
The secrets to this murder are slowly revealed to us through the point of view of another student, Richard, as he is accepted into the group and sucked into their strange world.
I was definitely gripped by this novel, particularly in the beginning...more
The book centers around a very small/elite group of students studying Greek at a rural New England college. From the very first page, we know that one of these students was killed, and by whom. What we don't know is why.
The secrets to this murder are slowly revealed to us through the point of view of another student, Richard, as he is accepted into the group and sucked into their strange world.
I was definitely gripped by this novel, particularly in the beginning...more
This came highly recommended... and I hate that. It usually means that I'm either going to love it or it will be, eh... okay.
Yep, it was okay. This is my problem with hype. I read and I read and I keep thinking, it will wow me soon, it will, it has to. Then, it's done and here I am.
The story is pretty good, the pace, pretty slow. I felt like I'd seen a Lifetime film based on this at some point, but I did a bunch of googling and there's nothing out there, so scrap that.
Maybe it was my issue wi...more
Yep, it was okay. This is my problem with hype. I read and I read and I keep thinking, it will wow me soon, it will, it has to. Then, it's done and here I am.
The story is pretty good, the pace, pretty slow. I felt like I'd seen a Lifetime film based on this at some point, but I did a bunch of googling and there's nothing out there, so scrap that.
Maybe it was my issue wi...more
Studying the Classics: The Potboiler
Okay, so if you like Bret Easton Ellis or Thomas Harris, you're going to love this 500+ page novel about a group of Greek studies students. Yep, they're studying Greek and the classics. Wait, where are you going, Gentle Reader? You don't find reading Aristotle in the original as exciting as a comic book film?
Author: Donna Tartt is a Southern writer--if by that definition you only mean a writer who is from the South. Born in Greenwood, Mississippi, she was educ...more
Okay, so if you like Bret Easton Ellis or Thomas Harris, you're going to love this 500+ page novel about a group of Greek studies students. Yep, they're studying Greek and the classics. Wait, where are you going, Gentle Reader? You don't find reading Aristotle in the original as exciting as a comic book film?
Author: Donna Tartt is a Southern writer--if by that definition you only mean a writer who is from the South. Born in Greenwood, Mississippi, she was educ...more
Fiction. A group of students learn Ancient Greek at a small Vermont college, but something's strange about their exclusive study sessions and reclusive professor. Our narrator starts out on the fringes of their group, but as he grows closer to them he also gets hopelessly entangled in their troubles.
I love this book. It's slow and mysterious, and it uses one of my favorite conceits: a close-knit group of misfit students clearly up to something, or about to be up to something. And I don't mean a...more
I love this book. It's slow and mysterious, and it uses one of my favorite conceits: a close-knit group of misfit students clearly up to something, or about to be up to something. And I don't mean a...more
The best word I can think of to describe this book is mesmerizing. You know from the very first page that the narrator and his friends will kill someone during the course of the story - you even know who the victim is and how he dies. But that didn't stop me from reading this book as fast as I could, trying to absorb every word.
A truly gifted author can create the most unappealing character possible and still draw the audience to his/her side. Donna Tartt does exactly this with her main charact...more
A truly gifted author can create the most unappealing character possible and still draw the audience to his/her side. Donna Tartt does exactly this with her main charact...more
Feb 21, 2008
Lindsey
rated it
3 of 5 stars
Recommends it for:
punkass intellectuals, people who feel obligated in life
Shelves:
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I don't know about this book...
At first I was drawn into it and I didn't know why. Since I pretty much don't really care for people who are "intellectuals" or jerks (especially ones who feel the need to do something or act a certain way to feel good about what they're doing in life) the main character really wasn't appealing. I think it was the mystery of the death that sucked me in. I had all kinds of ideas about why it happened (most of them revolving around Julian) and when it was finally ki...more
At first I was drawn into it and I didn't know why. Since I pretty much don't really care for people who are "intellectuals" or jerks (especially ones who feel the need to do something or act a certain way to feel good about what they're doing in life) the main character really wasn't appealing. I think it was the mystery of the death that sucked me in. I had all kinds of ideas about why it happened (most of them revolving around Julian) and when it was finally ki...more
Five Things About The Secret History.
This is going to be a difficult book for me to talk about. I finished it days ago but I find myself a little verklempt, I’ll admit. It’s been a long time since a book has stuck with me so completely as this one, and I say that having had a quite remarkable year for memorable reading. So, the summary is straightforward and completely unhelpful: a Californian boy arrives at a private New England college where he falls in with a bunch of snooty but delightful C...more
This is going to be a difficult book for me to talk about. I finished it days ago but I find myself a little verklempt, I’ll admit. It’s been a long time since a book has stuck with me so completely as this one, and I say that having had a quite remarkable year for memorable reading. So, the summary is straightforward and completely unhelpful: a Californian boy arrives at a private New England college where he falls in with a bunch of snooty but delightful C...more
One of my all-time favorite books. I just love the feel and tone of this novel. I can taste the booze, I can smell the cigarettes...it always makes me want to drink, smoke and dress in good clothing. This is about my 80th reading of The Secret History. It gets better each time. The narrator is so great and I secretly love him. What is it about? It's about Greek tragedy, groups of friends that know better, very smart people who know better, autumn, winter, spring thaw, love, hate, booze, cigarett...more
Mar 15, 2009
Liana
rated it
5 of 5 stars
Recommends it for:
college students
Recommended to Liana by:
Fabian, like, six years ago
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This book has left me with little more choice of words other than mystifying, heart-breaking, astounding, and genius. I'm glad I read it after taking a few undergrad humanities courses but before I was old enough to completely distance myself from the main characters. The book gripped me, and, as I'm known to make hyperbolic statements every now and then, I would like to say that it affected my life. Tremendously. Donna Tartt is an inspiration, and not just that. Her writing is horrifyingly beau...more
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At the transition from the first to second half of the story, marked by a FIFTY-PAGE reveal in a single monologue by a character who's defining trait is his inscrutable lack of emotion, the reader discovers that things aren't what they seem. Unfortunately, the second half's hook is that things are exactly what they seem: these kids believe every action oozes the portent of Oedipus at the Oracle when, in fact, the world is humming along without paying them the least mind. While that may be the po...more
Having graduated from college just over a year ago, I find this portrait of college life infinitely satisfying. It doesn't hurt that I went to a small, private liberal arts college and took many of my credits in Classics. Nonetheless, I believe any reader can dig into and love this book. I began it on a Thursday and finished it on Tuesday morning at 2 AM. I read the book for 2 hours on a saturday night, for god's sake. Perhaps the best part of the book is that from the opening five pages, you kn...more
I'm only about halfway through, but my heavens...it's fantastic!
And in response to Lindsey's review of same, I'm neither a "punkass intellectual" nor someone "who feels obligated in live".
Update: I LOVED this book. Loved it.
There are enough synopses written by far more adept synopsizers than I; instead, I'll offer my pros and cons.
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PROS
This is one of those (unfortunately) rare novels that has it all: a storyline that is quick to grab, then moves the reader along at the perfec...more
And in response to Lindsey's review of same, I'm neither a "punkass intellectual" nor someone "who feels obligated in live".
Update: I LOVED this book. Loved it.
There are enough synopses written by far more adept synopsizers than I; instead, I'll offer my pros and cons.
********************
PROS
This is one of those (unfortunately) rare novels that has it all: a storyline that is quick to grab, then moves the reader along at the perfec...more
Despite its pretentiousness, I really enjoyed this book. While reading it, my biggest criticism was that you won't actually find college students -- no matter how rich or strange -- who talk or dress or act like these students (at tiny, fictional Hampden College in Vermont) do. Wearing suits on a daily basis? Wearing pince-nez, for god's sake?? After seeing the author's picture and reading her interview at the back of the book, I have to revise that criticism a bit and concede that, just perhaps...more
This is one of those novels set at a college (The Rule of Four also comes to mind) that assumes a level of serious scholarship among undergraduates that I find hard to believe. You're dropping Greek epigrams at the local diner? Whatever. Meanwhile, I also attended a small private college in New England, and maybe I ran in the wrong circles, but I didn't know anyone at all with a trust fund, or even anyone willing to drop more than $30 on dinner. We snorted far less cocaine than these characters,...more
I read this book because my boss gave it to me. She knew I was into the Classics and all the so-called "protagonists" in this book are fledgling Classicists. But that, and it's random sprinklings of Latin and Ancient Greek, are about all it has got going for it. I don't think any characters (with the exception of Bunny) are well thought out. They all just seem to be filling some blue-printed role within a motley crew of intellectual outcasts. We're meant to comiserate with the lead because he is...more
If I hadn't been directed to three other incredible books this year by people on Goodreads, I'm betting this would've been my favorite book this year.
If I was ever to plan a murder or knew of someone who was planning one, I'd recommend that they read this book first. Much like "Crime and Punishment," this book shows that intellectual people and murdering don't go well together. I loved how this book starts by revealing the victim and the murderers right off, yet provides so much suspense all th...more
If I was ever to plan a murder or knew of someone who was planning one, I'd recommend that they read this book first. Much like "Crime and Punishment," this book shows that intellectual people and murdering don't go well together. I loved how this book starts by revealing the victim and the murderers right off, yet provides so much suspense all th...more
I am pretty sure books about academia are not for me, especially about elite liberal arts academia. It's hard to care about these pretentious teenagers, talking about Greek, philosophy and whatever else. Maybe it is because I personally don't know even one student (and I have spent a fair amount of time in undergraduate and graduate school) that was this wrapped up in these subjects. My experience with school was more practical, with people studying to get jobs, worrying about paying their tuiti...more
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Donna Tartt (born 23 December 1963) is an American writer who received critical acclaim for her two novels, The Secret History (1992) and The Little Friend (2002). Tartt was the 2003 winner of the WH Smith Literary Award for The Little Friend.
The daughter of Don and Taylor Tartt, she was born in Greenwood, Mississippi but raised 32 miles away in Grenada, Mississippi. At age five, she wrote her fir...more
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