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Plato's Dialogue on Friendship: An Interpretation of the Lysis, with a New Translation
'Ah, Hippothales, I said; what a noble and really perfect love you have found! I wish that you would favour me with the exhibition which you have been making to the rest of the company, and then I shall be able to judge whether you know what a lover ought to say about his love, either to the youth himself, or to others.'
cloth, 225 pages
Published
November 29th 1979
by Cornell University Press
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Socrates engages the youths of his day, the beautiful, beautiful youths. First, he questions Lysis. Your parents love you? Yes, Socrates, they do. And yet they restrict you? Oh, yes! And place you beneath (in terms of certain freedoms) and under the control of nothing more or less than slaves? Hmm. Lysis takes his interrogation beautifully, as the beautiful youth that he is, and Socrates moves on to Menexenus. What is friendship? For friendship to exist, must the love of which it consists be equ...more
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And I would rather have a good friend than the best cock
Lysis is the Plato dialogue on Friendship.
After a preliminary discussion with Lysis about his parents and the things he is and not premitted to do, Menexenus enters into the dialogue and the focus shifts to friendship.
Socrates says, "I should greatly prefer a real friend to all the gold of Darius, or even to Darius himself: I am such a lover of friends as that. And when I see you and Lysis, at your early age, so easily possessed of his tr...more
Lysis is the Plato dialogue on Friendship.
After a preliminary discussion with Lysis about his parents and the things he is and not premitted to do, Menexenus enters into the dialogue and the focus shifts to friendship.
Socrates says, "I should greatly prefer a real friend to all the gold of Darius, or even to Darius himself: I am such a lover of friends as that. And when I see you and Lysis, at your early age, so easily possessed of his tr...more
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Apr 29, 2010
Steve
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Everyone should read this. The question is, what is friendship? What is erotic love? What is the purpose of friendship? Is it an illusion? It's a shame philosophers no longer talk about things like friendship. Everyone should ask themselves these questions. Plato doesn't answer them--much like other dialogues, it ends with no one satisfied and no conclusion reached--but you will be more alive for having asked.
Some solid advice in here: "Most assuredly, I said, those [love:]songs are all in your...more
Some solid advice in here: "Most assuredly, I said, those [love:]songs are all in your...more
In this dialogue, Plato uses the voice of Socrates once again. Here the discussion on " friendship." Socrates, through question and answer ("Socratic method") tries to demonstrate that we know what friendship is because we remember having once beheld "friendship" in its true Form. This is typical of Plato's dialogues. There is q and a to show that we know what something is (love, justice, friendship and the like) because we remember it. The q and a format is used to help us "remember" the Form w...more
It's short at least. Very similar to The Symposium.
I can't be the only one who giggled through this.
The arguments didn't seemed more scholastic than insightful, and Socrates does not pretend to have reached any conclusion. But, there is something touching about this group of friends hanging out one night like nerdy kids who don't want to party, comfortably in their friendship, but unable to say what friendship is.
This was actually pretty difficult to follow because of all the ideas they bring up and agree with before Socrates quickly tears them down. They never reach an actual conclusion on friendship either; they just understand that they are friends.
Kembali berpikir bersama dengan metode dilektika untuk menemukan makna akan persahabatan. Sebuah bacaan yang sebaiknya dibaca mereka yang ingin memahami lebih mengenai arti kata sahabat itu sendiri dan mengapa kita bersahabat.
Mengejutkan!! Persahabatan yang ideal menurut Platon tidak berakhir semata pada hubungan dua-arah antarsesama sahabat, melainkan SEGITIGA! Segitiga apakah yang dimaksud? Baca saja sendiri :-P.... hehehe
Socrates so annoying sometimes.
This dialogue is convoluted to the point that its difficult to follow. Still, it's Plato and like everything he writes, I'm sure it's brilliant!
This dialogue is convoluted to the point that its difficult to follow. Still, it's Plato and like everything he writes, I'm sure it's brilliant!
Buku yang akan dijelaskan Romo kamis depan...di bandung cari dimana ya? Buku terbaru "Arete: Hidup Sukses Menurut Palton" belum ada di goodreads.
May 23, 2013
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