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Based on the latest and most authoritative edition of the Republic available, this careful translation provides the groundwork by which students can come to their own understanding of this seminal work of Western thought, as is appropriate for courses in core curriculum which emphasize students dealing directly with Great Books. Other useful features include a chapter-by-c...more
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Published January 1st 2007 by Focus Publishing/R. Pullins Co. (first published -380)
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Brendan
Feb 09, 2011 Brendan rated it 1 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: everyone
Let me explain why I'd recommend this book to everyone: Plato is stupid.

Seriously.

And it's important that you all understand that Western society is based on the fallacy-ridden ramblings of an idiot. Read this, understand that he is not joking, and understand that Plato is well and truly fucked in the head.

Every single one of his works goes like this:

SOCRATES: "Hello, I will now prove this theory!"
STRAWMAN: "Surely you are wrong!"
SOCRATES: "Nonsense. Listen, Strawman: can we agree to the follow...more
Everyman
All the criticisms of Plato are valid. He raises straw arguments. He manipulates discussions unfairly. He doesn't offer realistic solutions. And so on.

But he is still, and for very good reason, the most influential philosopher in Western civilization. He makes people think. Most authors we read today are trying to persuade us to agree with their point of view. Plato, not so. He wants you to disagree with him. He wants you to argue with him. He wants you to identify the fallacies in his arguments...more
Riku Sayuj

Is the attempt to determine the way of man’s life so small a matter in your eyes—to determine how life may be passed by each one of us to the greatest advantage? (1.344d)


I propose therefore that we inquire into the nature of justice and injustice, first as they appear in the State, and secondly in the individual, proceeding from the greater to the lesser and comparing them. (2.368e—369a)


The Republic: An Apology

“The safest general characterization of the European philosophical tradition is that...more
Emily May
My re-reading of this for my university course has led me to the same conclusions I found when I first read it a couple of years back, except this time I am fortunate enough to have understood it better than last time. My conclusions being that Plato, and through him Socrates, was very intelligent, believed he was more intelligent than everyone else (no matter how many times he declared himself unwise) and very much loved to talk. Socrates, in particular, must have been very fond of the sound of...more
Henry Avila
Plato's "The Republic", is a great but flawed masterpiece of western literature,yes it makes sense,mostly,some of it."I am the wisest man in the world because I know one thing.That I know nothing", said the smart man....Socrates. Plato is writing for Socrates, his friend and teacher. Late teacher, since being forced to commit suicide by the uncomfortable citizens of Athens( the famous poisoned cup of hemlock)!For corrupting the minds of youth! Socrates didn't believe books were as effective as l...more
Jason Pettus
(Reprinted from the Chicago Center for Literature and Photography [cclapcenter.com]. I am the original author of this essay, as well as the owner of CCLaP; it is not being reprinted here illegally.)

The CCLaP 100: In which I read a hundred so-called "classic" books for the first time, then write reports on whether or not I think they deserve the label

Essay #11: The Republic, by Plato (~360 BC)

The story in a nutshell:
For those who don't know, the last 2,500 years of Western civilization can be rou...more
Cheryl
Why is it easy to understand a concept in the ideal, and so difficult to understand it in reality?

This is the question raised in Plato's dialogues that peaked my interest, explained my frustration, and highlighted my feeling of alienation.

I am an idealist, therefore the Forms resonate with me. Why are we given a concept of the extraordinary but are unable to find it in reality? What is knowledge of the perfect musical piece, love relationship, artist's rendering, poet's rendition, or intellectua...more
William
Halfway through now and the ability to see the book solely as a metaphor for one's personal moral development becomes hard to see. The state Plato describes here is one that is highly prohibitive in almost every aspect. Arts and culture are severely controlled for propaganda purposes. There is a complete inability to view open, transparent government as an option. The guardians must be lied to and deceived constantly if they are to develop correctly. Moreover, to establish what we might call a f...more
Mark
Nov 02, 2007 Mark rated it 4 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: those with a philosophical bent
I finished reading The Republic on my birthday and now am both older and wiser. The Republic is in essence one long argument why a person should lead a just life verses choosing a life of pleasure, riches, ambition, or power. It is deeply concerned with the nature of the human soul and how to prepare one's soul for eternity. Socrates/Plato uses a plethora of logical examples for this argument, although it is the logic of 400 B.C. Greek culture, which seems somewhat fractured to us today. The Rep...more
Lona
ها أنا قد قرأت أخيراً 'جمهورية' أفلاطون، ولو طُلب مني أن أُعبِّر عن انطباعي حول جمهوريته بجملة مختصره، سأقول ما سطَّره قلمي في آخر صفحة من الكتاب:-

جمهورية أفلاطون يحكمها فيلسوف 'خيالي'، وسُكَّانها رجال آليين

****** **** ** * ** **** ******

تنقسم هذه المحاورة إلا عشرة أجزاء، أو كما اسماها المترجم عشرة كتب، كل كتاب يختص بموضوع معين يرتبط بما سبقه ارتباطاً وثيقاً ومكملاً له بتوسع، وهذه المواضيع يتحاور فيها "سقراط" مع مجموعة من الأشخاص

ما هو العدل؟ وهل الشخص العادل شخص سعيد نتيجة لعدله والظالم تعيس لظ
...more
Covert.adrian
Jun 27, 2007 Covert.adrian rated it 5 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: Those seeking answers, or at least the means to help you find your own.
No book has influenced my life more than Plato's Republic. It admittedly can be a difficult read: it is almost entirely a back and forth conversation between two people, Socrates and Glaucon, discussing the nature of man, the soul, justice, and what the most just society, or Republic, would look like. In this highly utopian account, Socrates expresses little hope in the common man, and instead suggests authoritarian rule, by philosophers, would lead to the most just state. His contempt for democ...more
Jonathan

Plato's The Republic is one of the more widely read works of philosophy of all time. It is a complex work, one that rambles due to the nature of it being a dialogue rather than a pure expository piece, but one with some interesting and applicable ideas within it nonetheless.

The core argument that Plato makes, through using Socrates as the voice of reason, seems to link up to the idea of the creation of a better Republic - hence the title - or a kind of Utopia. He argues that in the end the thing...more
aisha
i have read plato's republic...three times.

and i've actually enjoyed every time, although i hadn't thought i would each round.

i love greek writing, and though aristotle and thucydides are my favorite, plato is a close second (third?).

even if you disagree with the ideas he presents, the ideas are fascinating to discuss. i actually kind of think it is way more fun to discuss when someone contradicts an idea or assumption made.

the dialectic style is one of my favorite aspects of the novel. as a fan...more
Stephen
4.0 stars. I read this book back in college (20+ years ago) so I have put this on my list of books to re-read in the not too distant future. This is one of those books that I believe everyone should read as it is one of those foundational books on which Western civilization is based.
Tyler
Jun 06, 2008 Tyler rated it 2 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: _Academics, Philosophy Students
Recommended to Tyler by: _Socrates
Shelves: philosophy
This essential work of philosophy suffers from its antiquity. Long stretches of Plato's famous dialog make the point over and over, too much for today's readers. Though repetition may have been useful in ancient times, it's through modern lenses that I read. Any editor today would have chopped fifty pages off this treatise in an eye blink.

Through these lenses too, the ideal state Plato suggests will make a reader's hair stand on end, knowing as we do how his proposals can only end. By standards...more
Dan
I'm not sure why people read this. For those interested in the history of philosophy it's undoubtedly important. For everyone else... meh. A lot of people comment that Plato deals seriously with all the big issues. Well, he brings them up, but never seriously engages with them.
Maybe the problem is that I'm reading this at 25 after spending a couple years seriously reading philosophy. Maybe Popper inoculated me. I might have felt differently if I started reading The Republic with a less critical...more
Jaber Almarri


كتاب مميز

من خلاله نستطيع التعرف على جمهورية افلاطون والتي يخطأ البعض بينها وبين المدينة الفاضلة للفارابي
حيث اتى كتابي الفارابي استنباطا من ( الجمهورية ) لأفلاطون

قراءة ممتعة ومفيدة اتمناها للجميع


Steven Peterson
The Cornford translation of Plato is still one of the standards, even though other translations might well be better in this age. It is also the version that I used as an undergraduate student at Bradley University in my Political Philosophy class! To get to the point: Socrates' greatest student was Plato. In "The Republic," Plato, through the voice of Socrates, provided the keenest metaphor to describe his understanding of the problem cod defining "reality." His allegory of the cave serves as t...more
pearl
So, Plato never convinced me that justice was more than a social contract; and I never got over the disturbing specialization and eugenics programs or the downright shitty lives of the Guardians. And of course Socrates' Plato's solutions sometimes feel like they were scrawled on a wall by a half-drunk fascist. He very well could have just written a pamphlet titled: "WHY RULERS SUCK AND THIS IS A BETTER IDEA, AND FORMS &c." and called it a day.

But you know what? The Republic deserves every ou...more
Tim
When I wrote this review I failed to mention Bloom’s essay (and translation). It’s possibly the best commentary on Plato I’ve read. An overly simple summary is that Bloom suggests many of Socrates’ proposals were intentionally preposterous, with the aim of leading his interlocutors to grasp that no truly legitimate political system is possible, and that the best course for individuals is to tend their souls, necessarily within a polity, going along with its requirements as necessary, but avoidin...more
James
The Republic is an unbelievably varied book. Ostensibly a philosophical dialogue, it veers into all sorts of different subject matters. Just to name a few: there’s psychology, literary/art criticism, mythology, religion, child-rearing, and even urban planning. The scope of the work is breath-taking, but the conclusions that Plato reaches inevitably can appear shallow and inappropriate to a liberal-minded, contemporary reader. I think it’s better to approach a work like this—one of the greatest w...more
Sawsan Alotaibi
الكتاب أشهر من أن أعرّف به

لكن المهم في هذه الطبعة هي أنها طبعة معرّبة عن نسخة انجليزية لم تكتفي فقط بسرد الحوار بل هناك إضافات شرح، واختصار، وربط.
عمل المترجم الانجليزي رائع جداً، ويصلح لمن يرغب بدراسة الحوارات.

بالإضافة إلى أن قراءة عمل لشخصية مشهورة جداً ربما يخفف من حدة الهيبة والمكانة التي اتخذتها
ويوضح أن هناك ثلاث شخصيات:
1- شخصية أفلاطون الحقيقية من خلال كتابته هو
2- شخصية أفلاطون بحسب رواية من نقلوا عنه أو فهموا عنه.
3- شخصية أفلاطون المؤثرة بأفكارها حتى الآن.


كتاب أسلوبه أدبي، وقد بينت في ال...more
أحمد أبازيد Ahmad Abazed
و أفتخر أنّني حاورت أفلاطون أسبوعاً كاملاً !
Justin Evans
Just to be clear, my rating is for the edition of the Republic I read- the Oxford World's Classics text translated by Robin Waterfield. Giving stars to the Republic is so flagrantly stupid that I can't even come up with a suitably stupid analogy. Giving stars to the Mona Lisa? Not even close. Giving stars to Dante? Not the same, because that deserves five stars. The Republic simultaneously deserves five stars, for kick-starting Western philosophy, social science, aesthetics, theology, and politi...more
Alexander
The populist image of Socrates as one-part Richard Dreyfuss, one-part Papa Smurf, with the soul of Howard Zinn, the contrarian oomph of Christopher Hitchens, and the self-effacing agnostic air of Woody Allen, is an image that prevails mainly with those who haven't read The Republic.

Plato's sockpuppet reboot of his martyred life-coach is a much more worrisome figure, and The Republic is an exasperating intellectual maze of madcap sophistry lobbying for some insanely bad ideas. A classical Odditor...more
Marts  (Thinker)
Plato's Republic recalls a discussion between Socrates and some Athenians on the issues of justice in society, begining with the question of whether it is better to be just or unjust, during the discourse mention is also made of the theory of forms, the role of philosophers in society and the soul's immortality...

In closing it says, which to me just sums up all Socrates views, "And thus, Glaucon, the tale has been saved and has not perished, and will save us if we are obedient to the word spoke...more
Kelly
Sep 03, 2008 Kelly marked it as to-read  ·  review of another edition
Quote stolen from Shane:

" After reading Plato, Adams explained to Jefferson in a letter:

"My disappointment was very great, my Astonishment was greater and my disgust was shocking. Two things only did I learn from him. 1. that Franklins Ideas of exempting Husbandmen and Mariners etc. from the depredations of War were borrowed from him. 2. that Sneeezing is a cure for the Hickups. Accordingly I have cured myself and all my Friends of that provoking disorder, for thirty Years with a Pinch of Snuff...more
Mohannad Najjar
حسناً، انتهينا من قراءة الكتاب.

أفلاطون في هذا الكتاب: عبيط جداً.

واستفدت من قراءة النسق الذي خرج فيه الكتاب، واستشفاف ملامح التفكير اليوناني في ذلك الوقت؛ أي قبل حوالي 2400 سنة؛ استفدت من هذه القراءة التاريخية أكثر بكثير من استفادتي من التفكير الأفلاطوني نفسه.

لقد قرأنا هذا الكتاب ضمن نشاط قمنا به مع بعض الأصدقاء؛ إقامة (نادي كتاب الفلسفة السياسية) لنقرأ فيه النتاج البشري كلّه الذي وُلِدَت و عاشت فيه نظرية الدولة/ مفهومها؛ وعلاقة الفرد بالسلطة؛ وكيف نشأ التفكير السياسي على مرّ التاريخ.

كانت جمهورية...more
AC
There are two volumes to this set. Shorey's is the best English translation, bar none - and probably the best translation there is -- Though Robin's French translation is important, as is Apelt's German. They, however, do occasionally get things wrong.

But what really makes this Loeb most valuable are Shorey's notes. In reading Shorey, however, one must follow up on the passages cited in the notes, as Shorey will not do the reader's work for him.

Shorey once said that there are many books that sh...more
Ben Loory
Now after they had gone to rest, about the middle of the night there was a thunderstorm and an earthquake, and then in an instant they were driven upwards in all manner of ways to their birth, like stars shooting.
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