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The Fire
Katherine Neville’s groundbreaking novel, The Eight, dazzled audiences more than twenty years ago and set the literary stage for the epic thriller. A quest for a mystical chess service that once belonged to Charlemagne, it spans two centuries and three continents, and intertwines historic and modern plots, archaeological treasure hunts, esoteric riddles, and puzzles encryp...more
Hardcover, 560 pages
Published
October 14th 2008
by Ballantine Books
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I really, really wanted to love this book. Really. I liked it okay... but the love just wasn't there. It's a sequel to one of my favorite books ever - The Eight - and I had high hopes, but also reservations about whether the author could capture the magic of The Eight. Unfortunately, she did not. I can't even tell you what it is about The Eight that gives it that extra spark - or that extra bonfire - whatever it is that makes it one of the coolest books ever. But The Eight has it, while The Fire...more
I am very disappointed to say that I had to give up on this book about halfway through. (See below to read what I had to say when I began it.) It's not awful, but ... it was way too easy to put it down and pick up other books. Oh, well.
I wrote earlier: [I've been waiting for this sequel to THE EIGHT for ever. Hooray! Okay, sure, I admit that in countless ways THE EIGHT was preposterous and silly. I loved it. Which makes me as frightened to read THE FIRE as I am eager... what if it's not as fun...more
I wrote earlier: [I've been waiting for this sequel to THE EIGHT for ever. Hooray! Okay, sure, I admit that in countless ways THE EIGHT was preposterous and silly. I loved it. Which makes me as frightened to read THE FIRE as I am eager... what if it's not as fun...more
Like millions of readers around the world, I have eagerly awaited a sequel to "The Eight." Twenty years after publication of the original, Neville brings forth a work that is just as entertaining and delightful as its parent work.
With plotlines taken directly from the headlines, "The Fire" focuses on Alexandra Solarin, daughter of Catherine and Aleksandr (two of the main characters in "The Eight"). On the verge of becoming the youngest grandmaster in the history of the game, she stops playing, a...more
With plotlines taken directly from the headlines, "The Fire" focuses on Alexandra Solarin, daughter of Catherine and Aleksandr (two of the main characters in "The Eight"). On the verge of becoming the youngest grandmaster in the history of the game, she stops playing, a...more
Nov 28, 2008
Kelly
rated it
2 of 5 stars
Recommends it for:
patient readers of historic adventures and math / chess fans
Shelves:
quest
I waited a long time for this book. It's a sequel to The Eight, which was unlike anything else when it came out in the late 1980s. It was based on this idea of a fabulous, ancient chess set endowed with power, which pulls the people around it into The Game. The sequel, like the original, moves back and forth through time, and incorporates math, patterns, chess, urban planning, brainy heroines, romantic men, historic interpretation, and unusual settings. What I liked best about both books is the...more
Uch.
I didn't even finish the book, which is rare for me. This was just so painful and tedious to read, I couldn't stand it. There were parts where it seemed like Neville just took her historical research and put it into the mouths of the characters (and I use that term loosely) verbatim. The whole book felt like an attempt to cash in on the "DaVinci Code" craze for powerful-hidden-conspiracies-uncovered-by-deciphering-clues novels.
I am dreading going back and taking another look at "The Eight,...more
I didn't even finish the book, which is rare for me. This was just so painful and tedious to read, I couldn't stand it. There were parts where it seemed like Neville just took her historical research and put it into the mouths of the characters (and I use that term loosely) verbatim. The whole book felt like an attempt to cash in on the "DaVinci Code" craze for powerful-hidden-conspiracies-uncovered-by-deciphering-clues novels.
I am dreading going back and taking another look at "The Eight,...more
The Fire, by Katherine Neville was such a huge disappointment. I like many others, was mesmerized by The Eight, written twenty years ago. I would often wonder what happened to the author? I yearned, craved another book as an addict seeks his next high. When The Fire was offered as part of the Early Reviewer program, I was naturally delirious. Finally, the long drought from Ms. Neville would be appeased. Sadly, after reading The Fire, I cannot recommend this book with the same enthusiasm or promi...more
An Early Reviewer book.[return][return]Twenty years ago, Neville published The Eight, which I read around that time. I reread The Eight recently, in order to prepare myself for the sequel, The Fire. I didn� t change my opinion of The Eight� good but writing that struck me as almost juvenile. The plot itself is hard to describe in terms of genre. Chess forms the matrix of the story. Puzzles (a la The Da Vinci Code, which was published much later, in 2003), murders, quests, history, two time frame...more
The good thing about reading books after their sequels have been published is the waiting: there isn't any. If you're just starting Harry Potter now, for instance, you won't have to experience the torturous in-between years, waiting and theorizing and criticizing everything just because you're so impatient you can hardly stand to look at the words "Harry Potter".
But I digress.
The Eight came out in the late 1980's, and it was a masterpiece of intrigue and metaphor, with parallel stories and intr...more
But I digress.
The Eight came out in the late 1980's, and it was a masterpiece of intrigue and metaphor, with parallel stories and intr...more
I have to admit I was a little disappointed in this sequel. I absolutely loved The Eight. I loved Cat, Solarin, Mordecai, Lily and the whole crew. While we do see some of the old crew back this book covers the next generation which I was fine with but I felt like the secrets behind the numbers and puzzles just did not grab me as much. The storyline was a little weak to me. It was easy to predict how the relationship between Alexandra and Vartan would develop. I also couldn’t bring myself to like...more
Ok.. I really really really loved reading Katherine Neville's book "The Eight" several years ago. I still think it's a great little book. So I was super excited to hear that she wrote a sequel. It was all down hill from there. I struggled through the opening chapters full of obscure middle eastern names and theories but I hung in there because I thought it would pay off in the end. Every corner that the story turned I thought I would finally get to the good part. But every time the bad guy was g...more
I picked this book up at a local thrift store that sells as many books as you can fit into a Walmart-esque bag for $4.99 (and I can fit a lot of books into this bag). So far, I have picked up books I have never heard of and have been extremely satisfied with my choices. I did not, until after reading it, discover that it was the second book, and yet I really had no problem understanding the story, despite some of the chess talk I didn't quite understand. A great book!! Full of action and intrigu...more
Synopsis:
The Fire is actually a sequel to Katherine Neville’s The Eight published some twenty years ago and reviewed by me last year. The Fire, like The Eight, follows two timelines, one past (in this case 1822) and one present (2003).
Alexandra Solarin (Xie) was twelve years old in the autumn of 1993. She was being accompanied by her father, Aleksandr Solarin on a chess tournament in Zagorsk Monastery, Russia. This young chess prodigy was to play against a similarly young boy from Ukraine named...more
The Fire is actually a sequel to Katherine Neville’s The Eight published some twenty years ago and reviewed by me last year. The Fire, like The Eight, follows two timelines, one past (in this case 1822) and one present (2003).
Alexandra Solarin (Xie) was twelve years old in the autumn of 1993. She was being accompanied by her father, Aleksandr Solarin on a chess tournament in Zagorsk Monastery, Russia. This young chess prodigy was to play against a similarly young boy from Ukraine named...more
The Eight fue un libro que disfruté mucho. La trama me enganchó. Los personajes me atrajeron. La doble narración, pasada y presente, me interesó. Fue un libro que me gustó.
El Fuego en cambio, e irónicamente, me dejó muy frío. Quizá el estilo del libro ya no era una novedad para mí. Igual se me pasó el tiempo de este tipo de novelas, no lo sé. Ya el libro de la misma autora The Magic Circle me había dejado muy poco convencido. Algo me fallaba que había encontrado en The Eight.
Y eso que cogí el l...more
El Fuego en cambio, e irónicamente, me dejó muy frío. Quizá el estilo del libro ya no era una novedad para mí. Igual se me pasó el tiempo de este tipo de novelas, no lo sé. Ya el libro de la misma autora The Magic Circle me había dejado muy poco convencido. Algo me fallaba que había encontrado en The Eight.
Y eso que cogí el l...more
In this entertaining and well-constructed follow-up (prequel and sequel at the same time) to THE EIGHT of over two decades ago, Neville revisits a few of the characters from the first story while introducing many new ones in a tale--part thriller, part mystery, part many other things--that is once again built around the game of chess. As in the earlier book, the story more or less takes place in two timelines; one is largely Europe of the 1820s and the other is mainly here in the States at the s...more
Jul 21, 2010
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It’s been five years since The Da Vinci Code triggered an avalanche of imitators–thrillers featuring codes and ciphers, arcane knowledge, and ancient conspiracies. To me, the book that most resembled it was Katherine Neville’s The Eight, which was actually written 15 years before the Code. Positing a thousand year old chess set with alchemical powers, and a larger Game with geopolitical implications, the book acquired something of a cult, and, after 20 years, a sequel.
The Fire finds Alexandra So...more
The Fire finds Alexandra So...more
I have very mixed feelings about this, it's the sequel to The Eight. It's the kind of sequel where you very much have to have read the first book, it wouldn't stand alone very well at all. Now, I almost always like a sequel AT LEAST in the sense that I like to know what happens to everyone after. Sometimes I have heard people, when talking about a favorite book, claim that it's better NOT to know, that a sequel would only ruin things. That, my friends, is the talk of crazy people. So on the one...more
Sep 22, 2009
Michael
rated it
1 of 5 stars
Recommends it for:
would not recommend
Recommended to Michael by:
given a copy at ThrillerFest
I wanted to enjoy this novel but instead was uninterested in the plot and the characters.
This is the follow up to the well received "The Eight" but in this case the characters were stereotypes. Picture a room full of chess champions that still can have an interesting conversation on anything else but chess. The protagonist was hard to believe. Striving to become the youngest chess grandmaster before reaching age 12, then later while at the Cullinary Institute being recruted by the CIA. Is this a...more
This is the follow up to the well received "The Eight" but in this case the characters were stereotypes. Picture a room full of chess champions that still can have an interesting conversation on anything else but chess. The protagonist was hard to believe. Striving to become the youngest chess grandmaster before reaching age 12, then later while at the Cullinary Institute being recruted by the CIA. Is this a...more
Apr 04, 2009
Denise
rated it
4 of 5 stars
Recommends it for:
anyone who enjoyed The Eight
Recommended to Denise by:
Vinnie Olivieri, Mom, Dad
Shelves:
fiction
If you've read
The Eight
by Katherine Neville, you'll understand why I was excited this evening when I realized I was going to finish reading this book on April 4th. And after years of hearing praise and recommendations for The Eight, I was very excited to read both it and this the sequel. I was distracted at times by some rather unbelievable cameos, but generally I grew progressively more hooked as I discovered each new plot twist. My only real criticism, and perhaps it was a miscalculation of...more
I absolutely LOVED The Eight by Katherine Neville. I wouldn't say it was for everyone; not everyone likes complex plots that have your head spinning at times, but I do. I'm sure people who understand and play chess enjoyed it even more than I did.[return][return]However, I've been reading The Fire, a sequel to The Eight, for over two weeks now. I get drawn into the story in parts and then have no problem putting it down in the next chapter. I find myself picking up other things to read rather th...more
Giving "The Fire" only one star might not be fair, but I just can't help it, having waited like FOREVER (and even sounding like a Twilight Fangirl here) for a sequel of the ingenious "The Eight".
Since the predecessor was SO very very good it robs me of any more creative adjectives, I had such a high expectation of "The Fire".
But it didn't really deliver... What's with the lead character going on and on about...food, and not to mention total lack of chemistry whatsoever between Alexandra and her...more
Since the predecessor was SO very very good it robs me of any more creative adjectives, I had such a high expectation of "The Fire".
But it didn't really deliver... What's with the lead character going on and on about...food, and not to mention total lack of chemistry whatsoever between Alexandra and her...more
The author herself describes the predecessor to this book (The Eight) by saying there were no other books like it. She goes on to say that she never intended to write any followups. She really should have taken her own words of wisdom to heart (as Key would say).
This book had too many ideas, names, subnames and places and not nearly enough action. There is literally one action scene, 15 pages from the end of the book and it is tied up nicely, ex machina, with no one getting hurt. The characters...more
This book had too many ideas, names, subnames and places and not nearly enough action. There is literally one action scene, 15 pages from the end of the book and it is tied up nicely, ex machina, with no one getting hurt. The characters...more
This is a sequel to Katherine Neville's unique historical thriller, "The Eight." Well back before "The DaVinci Code," Neville imagined a way to bring together historical mystery and modern-day thriller. "The Eight" was sometimes ponderous, but managed by its end to convince you that the author was gutsy and imaginative, two features often missing in lit today.
"The Fire" repeats the qualities that made "The Eight" so fascinating: puzzles, daring authorial choices, and a hefty serving of historica...more
"The Fire" repeats the qualities that made "The Eight" so fascinating: puzzles, daring authorial choices, and a hefty serving of historica...more
Twenty years ago, Katherine Neville published her first novel, the acclaimed The Eight>. The raves encouraged me to read that book, and, sad to say, I was underwhelmed. Now Neville has published its sequel, The Fire>, featuring Alexandra Solarin, daughter of her first protagonist. The game of chess figures prominently in both works; perhaps not coincidentally, both books proceed at the pace of a chess match.
In this go-round, Xie (Alexandra's nickname, pronounced "Zee") must discover why h...more
In this go-round, Xie (Alexandra's nickname, pronounced "Zee") must discover why h...more
I read Katherine Neville's "The Eight" at the urging of a friend when I was a teenager and was bowled over by it, so when the sequel came out I decided I had to re-read the original first and then move on to "The Fire." Unfortunately, "The Eight" didn't stand up to a re-read, and "The Fire" was much, much worse.
"The Fire" fails as a narrative, let alone as a mystery, adventure or thriller. Neville has no notion of transition, and she wrenches the reader from place to place and from time period t...more
"The Fire" fails as a narrative, let alone as a mystery, adventure or thriller. Neville has no notion of transition, and she wrenches the reader from place to place and from time period t...more
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Sadly this book can't hold a candle to The Eight. To me it came across as a slapped together attempt to ride the coat tails of the success of The Da Vinci Code. There was no need for her to do that though. In the sudden rise of these historical mysteries popularity The Eight would have been rediscovered by a new generation all on it's own, there was no need for a shoddy sequel to point readers towards it.
I should preface that my entire judgement and criticism on the book could be clouded by the...more
I should preface that my entire judgement and criticism on the book could be clouded by the...more
After waiting about 20 yrs for this book to be written I had eagerly reserved my hardback copy and was stocked up on chocolate, white wine, and other goodies to munch while I laid on the sofa to read what I thought was going to be brilliant.. after all KV had been writing it or at least thinking about it for 20yrs..
Oh why did I bother... Maybe its because when The Eight was released back in the 80's it was a new concept, (the concept that has now been beaten to death by Dan Brown and others like...more
Oh why did I bother... Maybe its because when The Eight was released back in the 80's it was a new concept, (the concept that has now been beaten to death by Dan Brown and others like...more
Given that I very much enjoyed The Eight, even on a re-read, this one was disappointing, for a number of reasons.
First, it was kind of confusing, particularly in terms of who was a player and what role they played and for which side (or if sides even mattered). The role of the White Queen in particular, seemed like it was passed around so much I got whiplash trying to keep track. I'm sure this is deliberate, and meant to mirror Alexandra's own confusion, but it just wasn't well-handled. I think...more
First, it was kind of confusing, particularly in terms of who was a player and what role they played and for which side (or if sides even mattered). The role of the White Queen in particular, seemed like it was passed around so much I got whiplash trying to keep track. I'm sure this is deliberate, and meant to mirror Alexandra's own confusion, but it just wasn't well-handled. I think...more
O Fogo é a sequela de O Oito, uma sequela escrita cerca de 20 anos depois. Com tanto tempo para escrever o livro, as minhas expectativas encontravam-se um bocado elevadas.
Tendo adorado o enredo do anterior livro, esperava um enredo igualmente bom, com uma melhoria significativa no desenrolar da acção e definição das personagens, acima de tudo, na própria escrita "desorganizada" da autora, mas nada disto aconteceu. O enredo perdeu a originalidade, os dois momentos históricos estão pior definidos,...more
Tendo adorado o enredo do anterior livro, esperava um enredo igualmente bom, com uma melhoria significativa no desenrolar da acção e definição das personagens, acima de tudo, na própria escrita "desorganizada" da autora, mas nada disto aconteceu. O enredo perdeu a originalidade, os dois momentos históricos estão pior definidos,...more
I really wanted to love this book, but at the end of the day, I didn't. It wasn't that it was a BAD book, but I didn't see the point in writing it at all. I thought "The Eight" ended perfectly and I never expected there would be a sequel; I didn't think it needed it. And I was right. "The Fire" tries to recapture the magic of "The Eight" but without the freshness of the original. It felt like my favorite characters from "The Eight" only had cameo appearances and didn't do much that mattered. And...more
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Katherine Neville is an American author. Her novels include The Eight, A Calculated Risk, and The Magic Circle. She was born in St. Louis, Missouri, and she previously worked as a photographer, a model, a consultant at the Department of Energy, and a vice president of the local Bank of America.
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