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Rip It Up and Start Again
Punk's raw power rejuvenated rock, but by the summer of 1977 the movement had become a parody of itself. RIP IT UP AND START AGAIN is a celebration of what happened next: post-punk bands like PiL, Joy Division, Talking Heads, The Fall and The Human League who dedicated themselves to fulfilling punk's unfinished musical revolution. The post-punk groups were fervent modernis...more
Hardcover, First Edition, 752 pages
Published
April 21st 2005
by Faber and Faber
(first published April 2005)
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A thorough and intellectual (sometimes a little too thorough and intellectual) overview of British and American post-punk art rock and pop. The first half of the book explains the lofty intellectual and musical ideals the drove bands such as Public Image Ltd., Pere Ubu, Joy Division, Gang of Four, and the Pop Group, while the more fractured second half explains how this post-punk movement spawned goth, neo-psychedelia, synth pop, 2-tone, the new romantic scene, and finally the New Rock and New P...more
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I've just finished reading my copy of the US edition which covers a lot of ground despite being 200 pages shorter than the original UK version. Simon Reynolds gives a detailed account of this time period and is enjoyably opinionated which made the text less dry than it could have been. Inevitably, I found some chapters more interesting than others, and felt that he gave some genres too much attention while overlooking others (although this may have been affected by the cuts to this editi...more
I've just finished reading my copy of the US edition which covers a lot of ground despite being 200 pages shorter than the original UK version. Simon Reynolds gives a detailed account of this time period and is enjoyably opinionated which made the text less dry than it could have been. Inevitably, I found some chapters more interesting than others, and felt that he gave some genres too much attention while overlooking others (although this may have been affected by the cuts to this editi...more
I bought this book as an ideal airplane book - potentially interesting, but not likely to be particularly taxing. And it was pretty much as a I expected. I'm not a post-punk disciple (born a little late), and know the music mostly from a "looking-back" perspective. Coming from this point of view, the beginnings of the book were pretty interesting, starting with PiL and moving forward. I've always wondered about the story of PiL, and it was well explained by Reynolds.
The major problem with this b...more
The major problem with this b...more
The standard narrative of the pop music history of the late 70’s and early 80’s has the bracing musical revolution of punk quickly degenerating into the more commercial and co-optable form of New Wave. Punk is the honest, authentic voice of political and aesthetic revolution, while New Wave is the watered down, corrupted, commercialized version of that impulse. Now there’s a grain of truth to this interpretation, but it misses a few things about punk that were quickly to drive it into an aesthet...more
Endlessly exhaustive and meticulously researched history of one of the most fertile and creative periods of music since rock and roll expropriated the black blue. There is an interesting parallel in which Reynolds compares the synth-pop Second English Invasion of the early 80s to the original 60s English Invasion - rather than UK bands taking black blues and selling back to the white Americans, it was UK bands taking the recent black innovations of disco and R&B, remaking them in their own i...more
Warning: do not read this book unless you have ready access to Spotify or some other music subscription service that allows you to listen to entire albums without purchasing them, or else you will go bankrupt trying to catch up with the Fall, James Chance and the Contortions, the Associates and a hundred other bands with which you were vaguely familiar but suddenly find fascinating thanks to Simon Reynolds' writing. This is the best work of music history, and one of the best history books, I hav...more
A wonderful resource for lovers of postpunk! While it can be scant on certain details and adhere too strictly to Reynolds' overall thesis for the era, it remains the best guide to what these musicians were doing. Many of them are still alive so there's little excuse for those intrigued to not dig further into these stories. Paul Morley is a good example of someone from that time who has a differing view from Reynolds of what was up. Jon Savage's Joy Division documentary also provides a lot of co...more
Feb 18, 2012
Brandon
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3 of 5 stars
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Here is a band. They put out a great record. Here's why it was great. Then they became less great and broke up. Here is another band. They put out a great record. Here's why it was great. Then they became less great and broke up. Here is another band. They put out a great record. Here's why it was great. Then they became less great and broke up. Here is another band. They put out a great record. Here's why it was great. Then they became less great and broke up. Here is another band. They put out...more
I came to this book after reading and enjoying (to varying degrees) two other books by Reynolds--"Blissed Out" and "Generation Ecstasy"--that managed to be both entertaining and intellectually rigorous. It's too bad I didn't read "Rip It Up..." first. Although there are moments of socio-cultural insight into this particularly fertile and varied strain of late 20th c.-music, it winds up reading like a lot of band biographies. Unlike "Generation Ecstasy" or the best pieces in "Blissed," there isn'...more
I was a bit mislead by Simon Reynolds’s book on the post punk scene, Rip It Up and Start Again: Post Punk 1980-1980. I guess in retrospect most of the bands I held dearly from that era would be described as new wave or punk. I think this branch was much more experimental and theoretical in its composition of music, but I think there are more than a few bands that I gained an appreciation for who eventually found their roots in the post punk genre: Wire, Mekons, New Order, Talking Heads, Bow Wow...more
The term post-punk seems to be severely overlooked around the world. Particularly where its origins lay; England. Believe it or not, some people have to name check John Lydon's Public image Limited; those who bang their heads to the jukebox blaring the sounds of 'God Save the Queen', anyway. Memo to these types; post punk isn't just Joy Division and if you care to take a couple of months out of your heavy schedule and read Simon Reynolds' Rip it Up and Start Again: Postpunk 1978-1984 you may jus...more
Jun 17, 2013
Ian Mathers
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Technically this was a reread, but I don't have it in Goodreads, my first read was years ago and the UK edition instead of the US, and I _did_ read it this year, so I'm counting it for the reading challenge (so there). I'd probably give the UK edition with the three extra chapters and other missing material five stars, not because it's perfect and not because I agree with Reynolds on everything (and you can definitely spot the roots of some of his errors circa Retromania in the afterword), but i...more
A fascinating look at a range of more and less known "scenes" in the UK (and US) music world between 1978-1984. Reynolds creates a plausible narrative that takes you from Public Image Limited to Frankie Goes to Hollywood, stopping at The Human League and The Fall along the way. Ever wondered why Heaven 17 or The Associates mattered? What is this Mudd Club that the Talking Heads talk about? The answer is here. Coverage of US scenes is relatively thin (I'm sure there's a book out there on the CBGB...more
Uitstekende beschrijving van de 'doom era', the new wave, postpunk, synthpop en new romantic movements die deze periode (1978-1984) kenmerken en doen verschillen van de rock van daarvoor en de extreem commerciële pop van daarna.
Reynolds schrijft met veel liefde en kennis van zaken over een heel scala aan bands en weet orde te scheppen in de chaos, zodat een rijke periode ineens erg overzichtelijk wordt. De schrijver is genereus in zijn definitie en zelfs de Amerikaanse hardcore (met namen als Bl...more
Reynolds schrijft met veel liefde en kennis van zaken over een heel scala aan bands en weet orde te scheppen in de chaos, zodat een rijke periode ineens erg overzichtelijk wordt. De schrijver is genereus in zijn definitie en zelfs de Amerikaanse hardcore (met namen als Bl...more
Simon Reynolds' book Rip It Up and Start Again is meant to be a comprehensive study of the postpunk era, which he says is from 1978 to 1984. It began with the Sex Pistols' implosion and sort of fades out at the end.
There isn't a consistent timeline (other than Sex Pistols begatting Public Image Ltd.), so Rip It Up jumps around a lot. He's done a lot of research and tells the stories of a lot of bands time has forgotten and a lot of others that he greatly admires appear regularly throughout the b...more
There isn't a consistent timeline (other than Sex Pistols begatting Public Image Ltd.), so Rip It Up jumps around a lot. He's done a lot of research and tells the stories of a lot of bands time has forgotten and a lot of others that he greatly admires appear regularly throughout the b...more
A wonderful book, brimming with everything you could want to know about this era of music. It inspired me to go out and buy a couple of albums, stuff which I'd always intended to get, but the author's enthusiasm and depictions sold me completely.
Yes, in places it's wordy and too flowery, but that's down to the love of the subject matter: the guy loves his stuff and gushes occasionally, a forgivable crime in my eyes.
For every moment of these lapses there are another couple of almost throw away li...more
Yes, in places it's wordy and too flowery, but that's down to the love of the subject matter: the guy loves his stuff and gushes occasionally, a forgivable crime in my eyes.
For every moment of these lapses there are another couple of almost throw away li...more
I think this is the most exciting 'textual' piece of music criticism I've ever read. My recurring interest in post-punk was ignited by this book and in florid, excitable prose Reynolds describes the fascinating theoretical underpinnings of key post-punk bands. I never realized how well thought out works by the likes of Magazine and The Fall were, and through Reynold's eyes this sub-genre becomes the most exciting I have ever read about. The recurring characters- John Lydon, Howard Devoto, emerge...more
Easily the best survey of music ever written. It contributes real joy to the reader who becomes the listener to this extraordinary period for music. Only thing is, having read it your enjoyment of other (subsequent) music might become considerably dampened, because there's no denying or topping the diversity, brilliance & sheer determined genius of much of the music described and encompassed here: Bowie, Talking Heads, Magazine, Scritti Politti, Joy Division, the Fall, the Human League, the...more
This is clearly an extremely awesome book. I learned so much and was pretty much in awe of the way Reynolds was able to sum up an extremely productive and complex time in music history. Written in readable and passionate prose, it could also be equally viewed as an encyclopedia on the topic. A helpful index in the back will prove a great resource if you want a quick reminder of how any given group fit into post-punk as a whole.
Another amazing thing is the (almost) complete lack of pretension, a...more
Another amazing thing is the (almost) complete lack of pretension, a...more
I found this lengthy book on the post-punk music scene from 1978-1984 disappointing. The writing wasn't it's downfall (although, it read like a 500 music-mag band-bio), but rather the bands Reynolds chose to highlight were mostly British bands that I have heard, but am not terribly fond of. When I think post-punk from 78-84, I think of American bands like Television, Mission of Burma, and the music scenes in Athens, Minneapolis and L.A. This book references Devo and Talking Heads, but mainly sti...more
Mastodóntico, enciclopédico, imprescindible. El libro de Reynolds pone orden en aquello que el punk dejó patas arriba y hace que nos preguntemos no ya qué es el post-punk, sino: ¿qué no es post-punk? Es música disco, es reggae, es dub; es negro, es blanco y es africano; es de Nueva York y es de Manchester; es autogestión, es independencia, es política y es baile; es ruido, furia y mierda, pero también es artístico, limpio y minimalista; es frío y es calor; es carne y es metal; es antirock y anti...more
Listen up! This is the best straight journalism on rock music I’ve ever read (along with the 2006 music edition of The Believer magazine). Reynolds’ prose is really excellent--upon finishing it, I’m no longer surprised that the place I found a review of it was the New York Review of Books. The writing is just so lean and precise--just like the musical style he’s covering. Reynolds has a way of summarizing a band’s project in two sentences. He is economical with the use of quotations from histori...more
A great book on post-punk. If you don't know what "post punk" is, google it before reading this book. However,The chapter on no wave (as opposed to new wave) might be a bit dry for some people; especially those who are casual fans of post punk. My only other gripe with the book is that Frankie Goes to Hollywood received entirely too many pages in this book (FGTH good band but not not a post punk band in my opinion). Despite these very minor gripes "Rip It Up and Start Again" is a very good read:...more
Reynolds does an excellent overview of the post-punk era. Though it's focused on mainly British bands, he does a great job of showing the effects these bands had on the American music culture of the time and the effect Americans had on the British. The post-1977 years was a heady time for music, and Reynolds captures the era's rush and frustrations with wonderful details and interviews.
Speaking of, there's a follow-up book full of interviews with seminal figures of the time, "Totally Wired." Unf...more
Speaking of, there's a follow-up book full of interviews with seminal figures of the time, "Totally Wired." Unf...more
This is a great read, but definitely meant only for those with previous knowledge of or respect for this era of music history. Newcomers to this genre will most likely be put off by the sheer amount of obscure information that Reynolds includes, while post-punk nerds such as myself will revel in it.
However, it should be noted that the US version is highly censored and cut by almost 200 pages, and does not include the original photos of the UK release. Take some time to seek out the original UK...more
However, it should be noted that the US version is highly censored and cut by almost 200 pages, and does not include the original photos of the UK release. Take some time to seek out the original UK...more
A well-done account of the alternative music scene at the end of the 70s and into the early '80s. I have to sigh and say that this brought back a flood of memories from my Lost Youth--- so many bands I danced to, saw live, or just played on dashboard cassette (remember cassettes?) while driving. And, yes: this book will cost me a fortune at iTunes--- that's just inevitable. Insightful and sympathetic treatment of the synthpop/Britpop era, and good attention to the political and social changes be...more
Unlike Jon Savage's remarkable England's Dreaming, this book is fatally flawed due to its lack of any kind of structuring narrative device. In the place of a story line, we start with the bomb known as The Pistols. When they exploded, a thousand punk and post-punk subcultures were born, and Simon Reynolds does his best to trace their trajectories as they fly through the stifling late-70s air.
The result is a breathtakingly erudite but ultimately unrevealing collection of thumbnail essays that co...more
The result is a breathtakingly erudite but ultimately unrevealing collection of thumbnail essays that co...more
It's no secret amongst my friends that I pretty much obsess over the post-punk era. This books seemed short at 500+ pages while containing more information and insight into the scene, how it came about, mutated and ended than seemed possible. Sure there's a million other stories to tell... There's a wealth of information that could be gotten from the artists mouth's themselves (as this book seemed light on direct contact). As the first book I am aware of that tried to broach this topic with any...more
Just like the Dark Ages (40% of recorded history) get shoved aside by their before and after, largely because of the Church and largely because it gets too complicated to idealise, the post punk / New Wave period tends to have been dismissed with vapid one-liners. Although Reynolds probably has a one-liner ready for later periods (slotting a few of them into his afterword), he's the right critic to take on this swathe of yearning restless well-read dreamers from 1978-84. He loves the idealistic...more
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Simon Reynolds is one of the most respected music journalists working today, and his writing is both influential and polarizing. He draws on an impressive range of knowledge, and writes with a fluid, engaging style. His books Rip it Up and Start Again and Generation Ecstasy are well-regarded works about their respective genres, and RETROMANIA may be his most broadly appealing book yet. It makes an...more
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