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Calculating God

3.83  ·  Rating Details ·  6,767 Ratings  ·  643 Reviews
An alien shuttle craft lands outside the Royal Ontario Museum in Toronto. Out pops a six-legged, two-armed alien, who says, in perfect English, "Take me to a paleontologist."

It seems that Earth, and the alien's home planet, and the home planet of another alien species traveling on the alien mother ship, all experienced the same five cataclysmic events at about the same tim
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Mass Market Paperback, 338 pages
Published July 15th 2001 by Tor Science Fiction (first published June 3rd 2000)
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Lyn
Nov 24, 2016 Lyn rated it really liked it
In a bowling alley in the afterlife, Charles Darwin, Robert J. Sawyer, and The Dude sit drinking beer and discussing Sawyer’s book Calculating God.

Sawyer: So I wrote Calculating God not wanting to ridicule or dismiss those who have other ways of perceiving. We SF readers are supposed to want to explore alien minds; well, religious minds are alien to me, but I struggle to comprehend them.

Charles: So that alien idea really tied the book together.

Sawyer: Right, Calculating God was in response to th
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Stephen
4.5 stars. Most of this book is a solid 5 star effort that I thought was incredibly well done. The central plot involves a representative from a highly advanced alien culture arriving on Earth to review our fossil records and demonstrating to an atheist anthropologist actual proof of the existence of God. It is a well written, deftly plotted and extremely clever spin on the "intelligent design" theory and was a lot of fun to read.

The story loses one star (or at least a half star) for a very clu
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amireal
Jun 14, 2007 amireal rated it it was amazing
Shelves: g-scifi, reviewed
Wow.

No. Seriously. Wow.

This guy? Deep.

Sawyer challenges a lot of assumptions in this book. About god, about evolution, about astronomy and about paleontologists.

"Take me to your paleontologist." Once again, Sawyer does aliens in a way that makes them alien in such perfect ways.

This book goes to the edges of philosophy and beyond and it was a very interesting and challenging ride to be on. Wow.

It does at times read like a textbook to varying subjects, there's an awful lot of science and philosop
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Graham Crawford
Jul 27, 2011 Graham Crawford rated it did not like it
Before reading this book, Robert Sawyer had been a borderline author for me. His SciFis are generally well researched, but his characters are too Middle-class-married-WASP-with-children for my taste. They obsess over themselves and their trite conceptions of "morality"- a theme Sawyer cannot leave alone, or do justice to. In "Calculating GOD", Sawyer finally shows his hand. And for me, he's no longer a borderline author - he's a card carrying foot soldier of the Christian Creationist far right. ...more
Nathan Forget
I kind of hated this book.

The premise is that an alien comes to earth and asks to meet with a paleontologist. The alien is devoutly religious, and the book is mostly a dialog between the two, with the religious alien trying to convince the atheist scientist of the existence of a god (or intelligent designer).

That wouldn't be so bad, necessarily, if it was an interesting argument that relied on facts on both sides, but because it's a work of fiction the author tips the balance in favor of the i
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Christian
I quite looked forward to this book due to the intriguing concept, but It didn't live up to its potential. The book's premise as I understood it was an theistic alien and an athiestic palentologist debating the existence of God. The problem was that all the arguments he used for the existence of God were made up (examples being that every planet in the Galaxy has had 5 extinctions, and every race has the same DNA). The discussions become boring since they are entirely fictional in all the ...more
Ric
Apr 23, 2014 Ric rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
A courageous novel that asks questions not normally posed in SF novels (or mainstream books, for that matter), such as: What is the nature of the being we can call "god"? What is the basis of our belief or unbelief in God - faith, science, or something else? How would such a being manifest himself/herself/itself and interact with us in this life and universe?

The book had a personal connection for me as its main character is dying with cancer at the time that my life partner also was. The process
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[Name Redacted]
So close to perfection and genuine insight. Yet so far...

It opens with an almost Pratchettian set-up, subtler than Pratchett (Sawyer is Canadian after all) but no less replete with humor and humanity. It's funny, insightful, touching, engaging, unputdownable. A remarkable work of satire and social criticism, reflecting on the hidebound rigidity and reactionary nature of much of modern scientific culture and its shocking betrayal of its own stated goals.

Then it hits the halfway mark and all of t
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David
Dec 26, 2012 David rated it did not like it
Great premise, terrible execution.

Calculating God proposes the question "what if we make contact with aliens and discover that they are not rationalist-atheist scientists, but true believers?" It's a provocative opening and challenge to science fiction in general, which is often though not always written by rationalist, atheist authors who assume their readers and their imagined futures will share those values.

The problem is that Calculating God isn't a very good book on any level. The majority
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Gendou
Nov 21, 2012 Gendou rated it did not like it
This book is the author's private soap box for preaching creationist garbage like:
* Gaps in the fossil record
* Missing links
* There's no proof of evolution, it's just a theory
* Inadequacies in natural selection
* We've never seen a new species form
* Fine-tuning is evidence for a creator

The plot revolves around an alien who comes to Earth looking for got. He is shocked by human atheists, and tries to share the "the scientific fact of god". The "evidence" provided is something about the marvelous p
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Grumpus
Sep 28, 2016 Grumpus rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: fiction, audiobook
Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. More to come.
Bruce
Oct 14, 2011 Bruce rated it it was ok
Two and a half stars. 2 = I read it and wished I hadn't, 3=fine if you've got nothing better to do. So yeah, I feel mildly like I wasted my time.

Sawyer as an author takes the big idea and then sets up his characters to be affected by it. In this case the idea is really big: god.

Frankly, I find the whole god/not god argument rather tedious. It's mostly about just pushing people's buttons on one side or the other, and shooting stereotyped fish in a barrel with the obligatory stupid southern fundam
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Kirsten *Don't Be A Grinch*
This book really surprised me. I picked it up as an Audible Daily Deal and was it a bargain! I thought the premise would be interesting, but I didn't realize how much this book would get my brain (and heart!) working.

The premise is this: what if aliens came and they believed in God and were talking to a scientist who did not? The Audible copy I had also came with an introduction by the author in which he said he was trying to discuss the issue of fundamentalism and how it's not just the religiou
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Lynda Engler
Feb 04, 2016 Lynda Engler rated it it was amazing
It seems readers either loved or hated this book, all based on how they perceive Sawyer's treatment of religion (read: Christian viewpoint on religion) vs. atheism. I'm in the LOVED IT camp. Matter of fact, I've reread it 3 times. And I'll tell you why:

Sawyer takes the viewpoint of aliens who believe in a creator rather than the perceived human POV that when aliens (who are scientifically advanced enough to travel through interstellar space) finally arrive, they will OF COURSE be non-believers.
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Brian
Dec 13, 2008 Brian rated it did not like it
The first few pages were fantastic, but nothing much happens after that. Rather the book is a creative opportunity for the author to postulate on science and god. The alien visitors supposedly have scientific proof that God exists, however this is primarily based on their discoveries of a fifth universal force and other fabricated science (such as that big bang/contraction cycles could not have happened more than eight times)--I'm sorry but its not all that interesting to make up science and ...more
Karin
There are zero fresh or original ideas in this book. It's as if Robert J Sawyer (who in his extraordinarily condescending intro to the audiobook says only young earth creationists and people who aren't true scientists won't enjoy what this book has to say) decided to "write the controversy" and then at the end realized that he needed to get a little trippy (hint: (view spoiler)).

The 2nd half would have been interesting if it wasn't pr
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Betsey
Jul 31, 2010 Betsey rated it did not like it
Shelves: scifi
Robert J. Sawyer just never quite does it for me. His ideas are fairly pedestrian, even if they are occasionally clever. This book was a thinly veiled argument that the universe was intelligently designed. I'm not sure why I read the whole thing, except I wanted to see if it was really that bad. and it was.

Additionally, there was a sexism problem. The protagonist meets an alien who is a scientist, like himself. He assumed the alien is a male. And when he finds out that he's a she, he decides no
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Zinta
Jan 05, 2009 Zinta rated it it was amazing
Usually, if I sense an alien coming, I run. In movies or books, anyway. Beasties with six legs and eyes on wands, flying saucers and such... not my thing. But good writing, in any genre, is always my thing. There is so much to learn and understand in solid reality that I wish no escapism, the latter wasting precious real time for matters of value and substance ... but when science fiction keeps enough of its six legs firmly planted in issues we face in substantiated reality, even as it waves its ...more
Daniel (Attack of the Books!) Burton
Dec 28, 2012 Daniel (Attack of the Books!) Burton rated it liked it
Recommends it for: sci-fi fans, science geeks
Shelves: science-fiction
[An updated review]

I lucked out when I found Calculating God. It was one of those I’m-bored-and-I-have-nothing-to-read-so-I’ll-browse-the-shelves-and-randomly-pick-something finds.

I was in for a treat. Winner of the Nebula Award, Robert Sawyer presents an interesting thought experiment: what if Earth were discovered by an alien race, or rather, TWO alien races, and they informed us that, contrary to popular scientific belief, the universe and everything in it indicates that there is a god, a cre
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So, I Read This Book Today
Jan 01, 2013 So, I Read This Book Today rated it did not like it
I tried to finish the book, I really did. However, there really wasn't any 'there' there. It reads as nothing other than the ramblings of a man who learned sound bites about science so that he could convince thoughtful persons to purchase a book that he then uses as a soapbox for obsessive ravings.

I expected to find sound science to be the basis of the book, with some interesting theories on the possibilities of intelligent design. Some comparative paleontology, interesting theories on the devel
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Banner
Nov 08, 2012 Banner rated it it was amazing
Shelves: sci-fi, alien
While it is true that science and religion often seem at odds in western culture, I have often experience much joy in science fiction genre that boldly deals with religious and philosophical thought. To illustrate I've posted a link to one of my favorite list on Goodreads.

http://www.goodreads.com/list/show/36...


Calculating God achieves near perfection in this area. Regardless of your worldview, you will appreciate the depth of thought in this entertaining story about an alien scientist, who is a
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Becky
I’m not rating this book, because it’s a BIG FAT DID NOT FINISH for me.

This book is very reminiscent of the Three Dialogues of Hylas and Philonous to me. And, if you don’t know what that piece of literature is, than you aren’t a philosophy student, and you are probably making more money than me, and are making a plethora of other, better life choices. Congratulations. Any ways, I also have a History and a Classics Major, and I do stand by those, but I digress.

The point being, this is a book whe
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Ian
Is it possible to calculate God? Can science demonstrate the existence, or absence, of God?

I'm a firm believer that science cannot prove or disprove the existence of "God" in the sense that most people use the word. The God of the Bible, the God of the Koran, the pagan gods of Greek legend – they are beyond the scope of science.

But maybe science could prove, or at least evaluate evidence for, the existence of an entity that is so advanced and so powerful that it might as well be a "god" from our
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Broodingferret
Aug 01, 2012 Broodingferret rated it it was ok
Shelves: science-fiction
Calculating God suffers from that all-to-common literary weakness of "good concept, poor implementation". Essentially, the book plays with the concept of Intelligent Design; specifically, a Unified Theory of Physics winds up implying that our Universe had to have been built by an intelligent entity and the main character, who is both an atheist and is dealing with a terminal illness, has to deal with the implications. While the book doesn't take an explicitly religious road-while referred to as ...more
Bria
Aug 25, 2009 Bria rated it it was ok
The narrator of this book is an idiot, and a terrible scientist. Can it honestly never occur to him that when an *alien*, with a completely different history unrelated to humanity, comes to us, and starts speaking about the creator of the universe, that perhaps, just perhaps, that concept does not carry with it all the associations and baggage and assumptions that he has learned about God from a Judeo-Christian perspective? Is Sawyer trying to illustrate the scientist as the creationists assume ...more
Elroy Jetson
Jul 04, 2009 Elroy Jetson rated it did not like it
I read this book immediately following FlashForward. Imagine my disappointment that the same author who wrote such a fantastic novel as FlashForward wrote this rubbish.

Basically this novel is a science fiction novel only because that is what pigeon hole the publishers have stuck Sawyer into. If every bit of science fictionesque content was removed from this book it doesn't change the story.

The book is basically the authors feeble attempt to justify his worldview. That would be great if he could
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Noah M.
Dec 06, 2008 Noah M. rated it it was amazing
I loved this book.

What if aliens came to Earth and said, "Hey, did you know there's a God? Oh, we also have scientific evidence of it."

That would be sort of troubling.

And so it was.

You should read this book if you like books about aliens believing in God.

The "god" that Sawyer's book presents is very different from the god of any religion we've managed to develop on this planet. This book is about a scientific explanation for an intelligent designer.

The characters were amazing. Really well drawn.
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Paul
May 15, 2014 Paul rated it really liked it
Shelves: science-fiction
I can see why some people would not like this book. There is a lot of dialogue between the human Tom and the alien Hollus about the existence and nature of God. Scientific rationale is used to prove that God exists and has a limited capacity to prevent suffering. The overarching theme of the book is that science and faith can co-exist; they do not have to be at odds with each other. A tremendous amount of factual information is delivered in the novel, and errant conclusions are intentionally ...more
Ashley Chua
Aug 12, 2016 Ashley Chua rated it liked it
Shelves: science-fiction, dnf
Stopped at 'there is no proof for evolution'. I'm not well read on evolution myself but I wouldn't trust Sawyer as an expert enough to accept his statement on the subject. Great premise, was looking forward to some genuine arguments for the proposal that the universe was one created with intent, as opposed to a random one, but I stopped because I realise I don't trust whatever the author is saying.

Story-wise, very typical of Sawyer, functional writing and one-dimensional characters. Usually I'm
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Brittany Eldridge
Feb 12, 2016 Brittany Eldridge rated it really liked it
I really enjoyed this book and even though the level of science was high (and I didn't know a lot of it) I still feel like I took something from this book. It presented a lot of questions and while the answers were pretty "out there" it was refreshing. The ending was completely unexpected and I think I liked that. Had it been what I was predicting I think I would have like it less. I would recommend this to any hard SF fan.
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