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A Live Coal in the Sea (Camilla #2)

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Madeleine L'Engle's first adult novel in four years -- now in paperback! With 23,000 copies sold since May 1996, this "haunting domestic drama" "(Publishers Weekly)" examines the powers of faith and mercy in one family's confrontation with a legacy of evil.Best known for "A Wrinkle in Time --" the children's classic that has sold more than 2 million copies since 1962 -- Ma...more

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Published April 11th 1997 by HarperOne (first published January 1st 1996)

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Jul 01, 2012 Becca rated it 4 of 5 stars

I have not encountered many works by Madeleine L'Engle but I have been very pleased with what I have read. L'Engle tells this story as different characters recollect details from their past, primarily the main character Camilla who tells her granddaughter some stories of their family's past. This narrative style gives depth to the story as gradually the mystery of their family is unveiled. This story tells a heart-warming tale of mercy even in the face of the greatest mistakes and shame. An intr...more

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Jun 05, 2011 Benjaminxjackson rated it 3 of 5 stars

I received this book as a wedding present, and at the time, it got lost in the swilr of events and ended up sitting on the bookshelves for several years.

Having just recently finished it, I understand why it would be a wedding present. The book covers several marriages in different stages over the lifetime of its protagonist, Camilla Xanthakos, a college astronomy professor.

The events that shape her life and the lives of those around her are pretty extreme: infidelity, brainwashing in the Korea...more

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Aug 13, 2011 Helen Merrick rated it 3 of 5 stars · review of another edition

This was a strange story - not at all what I was expecting, but then again I don't think I have read any other adult books by L'Engle. I mainly picked it up as the central character is a female scientist, although her work is very much background. The book however does have some very interesting mediations on science and religion, and how - at least in the persons and lives of the main family in the book - they can be reconciled, or at least harmoniously co-exist. The deep dark secret of this fa...more

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Oct 09, 2012 Amber rated it 4 of 5 stars

I've known and loved L'Engle as a intelligent writer of children's books for quite some time. When I saw "A Live Coal in the Sea" at my library I was intrigued enough to bite. I am so very glad I did.

A classic family saga with a complicated history and a question of parentage that has sent a splinter through three generations. L'Engle gives even the worst characters in the story enough compassion that you are unable to choose a scapegoat. In doing so you are forced into the search for mercy alon...more

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Jan 10, 2010 Annie rated it 4 of 5 stars

I think way back when I was a teen and looking for the L'Engle books I had missed, I saw this one and passed it over. The teen romantic in me wanted Camilla to end up with her first love, and that she would marry someone else seemed like a betrayal.

I know more now (thank goodness) and so when I rediscovered this sequel to "Camilla," right after I had finished re-reading that book with an adult perspective, I was thrilled. Here it was, the "Camilla" for adults. I had to read it right away.

It's no...more I think way back when I was a teen and looking for the L'Engle books I had missed, I saw this one and passed it over. The teen romantic in me wanted Camilla to end up with her first love, and that she would marry someone else seemed like a betrayal.

I know more now (thank goodness) and so when I rediscovered this sequel to "Camilla," right after I had finished re-reading that book with an adult perspective, I was thrilled. Here it was, the "Camilla" for adults. I had to read it right away.

It's not one of L'Engle's best books. The plot jerks around, in that the central mysteries turn out not to to be very mysterious at all. It's a good exploration of character, though, and specifically of characters dealing with love and marriage. It's one person telling a story to another, with another person telling a story wrapped inside, kind of like Arabian Nights.

L'Engle is able to latch onto the universal essence of desire for love and companionship and all of the things that can tear those things asunder. One thing that bothered me, though, was the idea that Camilla was a brilliant professor, mother and housewife all at the same time. It seemed incredibly unreal, especially that her husband Mac doesn't seem to be expected to help in the arena of the house and any details of the balance of her life are skimmed over quickly.

Reading "A Circle of Quiet" has helped put some of that in perspective. It's interesting, how L'Engle can be so progressive and old and conformist at the same time. She writes about her guilt over not being a good housewife. And while it seems like a part of her knows that she shouldn't use this to validate her worth, she still believes in this image of woman as the domestic goddess in her solitary domain.

A lot of this book is about marriage, but also on all the ways our parents mess us up, as the two things seem to be tied up together. While marriage seems to require grace (forgiveness, I think Elizabeth Gilbert would call it) being a daughter seems to require the ability to move on. Maybe the book suggests that that is a harder kind of grace, because one can never choose one's parents.(less)

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Oct 19, 2009 Snail in Danger (Sid) Nicolaides rated it 4 of 5 stars · review of another edition

Shelves: genre-deficient

When I learned from Wikipedia that there was a sequel to Camilla, I squeed. And then I requested the book from the library. This is a really excellent book, even if you hadn't read the sequel. It made me think of Cyteen and The Chosen and Pamela Dean (something about the dialogue at the beginning). The only flaw is that the reveal at the end was pretty obvious. I saw it coming for about half the book. (Also I'm not sure I believe/was persuaded by the resolution ... but anyway.)

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Apr 14, 2011 Amy rated it 3 of 5 stars

I "accidentally" picked up this book just a few short weeks after finishing Camilla by Madeleine L'Engle. I had no idea I'd be running into the same characters in A Live Coal in the Sea! As is so typical of L'Engle, you never know who you're going to run into in her stories! Often her novel characters cross paths, even when the books are not written as a series or sequels.

In this book Camilla's granddaughter, Raffi, confronts Camilla about whether she is or is not truly her grandmother. From the...more

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Jun 28, 2008 Elizabeth rated it 2 of 5 stars

I read it because I like other books she wrote, but had to force myself to finish it. I guess the teachings about love and mercy were nice, but I just didn't like the book.

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Jul 02, 2012 Bears Mommy rated it 5 of 5 stars

This book was one of the best books by a modern christian author that I have read in a very long time. I loved the themes of grace and mercy, hanging on through a tough marriage, accepting people as they are, ministry life, the loss of children, death, struggling with faith and what God actually promise us.

The book dealt with tough issues in a more realistic way than most of the other "christian" novels I have read. It was a simplistic reality, but still not everything turned out happy and I li...more

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Sep 16, 2012 Joi Weaver rated it 5 of 5 stars

Shelves: faith, literature

I generally prefer L'Engle's fantasy stories and Crosswicks journals to her more contemporary stories, so I started reading this book one evening around 9, planning to read until I fell asleep.

I finished it in tears at 2am.

The title comes from a quote: "All the wickedness in the world which man may do or think is no more to the mercy of God than a live coal dropped in the sea." The novel shows how this is true in the intertwined stories of two families; great evil is done on both sides, and ma...more

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Nov 22, 2010 Sheila rated it 3 of 5 stars

An ambitious book by the author of A Wrinkle In Time (a personal childhood favorite); this story of interconnectedness, mercy, forgiveness and a belief system able to embrace the wonders of both clear-headed science and an Almighty God, is admirable in concept if not entirely successful (IMO) in its execution.

I'm not entirely comfortable with the ending. I wonder at Camilla's troubled son Taxi's joy in discovering, finally, his blood father's identity. Why, with all the transience of emotion in...more

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Jan 24, 2009 Chana rated it 3 of 5 stars

Shelves: fiction-family-drama

A bit of a soap opera, written by a woman whom I am guessing is brilliant in science and really does make math patterns in her head to relax, as she has one of her characters do. I like the quotes she adds to the story such as this one, "He who would do good to another must do it in minute particulars. General good is the plea of the scoundrel, hypocrite, and flatterer, for Art and Science cannot exist but in minutely organized particulars." (Blake) I am also thinking that this book should be re...more

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Dec 11, 2011 Alison Whittington rated it 3 of 5 stars

The heartbreak of a family ripped apart from each other is very real in A Live Coal in the Sea, but the hyped-up drama of the "mystery" surrounding Taxi's parentage is drawn out in such a way that the real story and the real pain are obscured by the hyped-up suspense building and, if not glossed over, then sped through. Such a shame, because that real story at the heart of this novel is very strong, and the book could have been so much better. The twist at the end, however, is very well done, an...more

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Oct 01, 2011 Shana rated it 3 of 5 stars

Another one on the list of adult novels by Madeline L'Engle that I never knew existed....

Hidden secrets and family history are revealed little by little in A Live Coal in the Sea, leading to an ending I didn't expect. Camilla is a professor at a small college. L'Engle delves into family history as the big family secret finally gets explained to Camilla's granddaughter. In this way, it is reminiscent of A Severed Wasp in how the story was told.

The characters were compelling enough to keep me read...more

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Mar 17, 2011 Kiirsi Hellewell rated it 3 of 5 stars

I rarely ever read adult books (I love middle-grade and teen lit and read that almost exclusively) and this book reminded me why.

Though I did end up liking the characters and actual story, there were some themes/situations that I really did not care for and I wish I hadn't read them.

The story is complicated and jumps back and forth from the past of Camilla Dickinson's life to the present, with no warning, with scenes in the present of her granddaughter Raffi visiting her and also some phone con...more

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Oct 02, 2009 Michele rated it 3 of 5 stars

I love Madeleine L'Engle's Wrinkle in Time series so I thought I'd give one of her adult books a try.
Pros- she develops her characters thoughtfully. They are three-dimensional characters with faults and strengths and each character is shown doing things within and outside of their moral scope, much like in real life. She has a remarkable ability to incorporate her spirituality and beliefs without being offensive or overbearing and without the book reading like a crappy religious novel.
Cons- thi...more

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May 13, 2013 Amber Berry rated it 2 of 5 stars · review of another edition

I wanted to read this because I like the young adult novel, 'Camilla.' This was the follow-up to Camilla's life after the first book ended with her about 16 years old. I enjoyed the writing style and story of Camilla and thought that it was set in the 1960s, since I could identify with some of the events, although I didn't grow up in a city.
The first difference with 'A Live Coal...' is that this novel is an adult fiction, not young adult. In my opinion, the writing is sometimes not up to adult s...more

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Jun 27, 2012 xenu01 rated it 2 of 5 stars

I wanted to like this book, because Madeline L'engle will forever be one of my favorites. I never read Camilla, but I have read And Both Were Young approximately a million times, and some of my earliest book-reading memories involve the Wrinkle in Time Series. There were things to love about this book- some of it was deliciously soapy, for one- but there were other things that couldn't help but turn me off of it.

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This book came out in 1996, not 1969, and as such I'm not thrill...more I wanted to like this book, because Madeline L'engle will forever be one of my favorites. I never read Camilla, but I have read And Both Were Young approximately a million times, and some of my earliest book-reading memories involve the Wrinkle in Time Series. There were things to love about this book- some of it was deliciously soapy, for one- but there were other things that couldn't help but turn me off of it.

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This book came out in 1996, not 1969, and as such I'm not thrilled about L'engle's take on homosexuality. When I read that something awful had happened to Mac, and then learned that his father was abused as a child, I thought that he had perhaps been abused in turn. However, what? He walked in on his father doing it with another guy and it ruined him forever? Ok, so seeing your parent's infidelity can be traumatic, I get it. However, it was not the infidelity that horrified Mac and his mother, but the fact that his father was caught doing the nasty with a MAN. An evil man, by the way, who is evil. Did I mention he was a terrible dude? Seriously. Let me remind you again. Sigh.

And then! And then said father seeks help and gets better! From being bisexual! Really! I am aware that this was supposed to take place in a time far away, etc, but gay people were not invented in the 1980's. Hey, there were a lot of gay lady labor activists (some of them cohabited, received presents together, raised children together) in NYC in the 1930's and 40's. Eleanor Roosevelt was friends with some of them. For example.

I also realize that L'engle was aware that she should not demonize gay people entirely, but her subsequent inclusion of a token gay character who only exists to have one speech in which he says that he is gay but oh, please don't tell anyone, the end? It seemed most of all like a desperate effort to assure readers that she, Madeline L'engle, has nothing against The Gays.

Unfortunately, much as I was delighted by a book about a woman who considers Fibonacci sequences while pregnant and who manages to have children and a successful career in the sciences while dealing with a lot of drama, there was a fair amount of fail, and that soured things considerably.(less)

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Sep 21, 2009 Rebekah Choat rated it 5 of 5 stars

Shelves: my-fiction-favorites, owned

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Camilla Dickinson shares the complex story of her life with granddaughter Raffi, whose father’s erratic behavior and insinuating remarks have prompted her to question her identity. The choices, actions, and sufferings of previous generations, and their far-reaching ramifications, are brought to light as Camilla and her close friend Luisa share their memories with Raffi. Through the process, Raffi learns not only the facts about herself and her family, but also the truth that love and me...more

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Jul 05, 2008 Annie rated it 3 of 5 stars

Recommended to Annie by: Aimee Griffin

As it is officially summer and I am trying to breeze through as many novels as possible before I start graduate school and have (yuck!) required reading, I thought I might try Madeline L'Engle. I read "A Wrinkle in Time" as a young adult, although really should probably reread it as a grownup, because I have no recollection of it. But remember absolutely LOVING her novel "A Ring of Endless Light" and reread it a few years ago and found it even more apt and delightful as I did when I was 12. So I...more

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Feb 17, 2008 Amanda rated it 4 of 5 stars

This story is a tangle of past and present as Camilla tries to explain their family to her granddaughter Raffi. The emphasis of the story is about the power of mercy and change, people's ability to transform into something better than they once were, to overcome their own demons. I read this immediately after reading L'Engle's Certain Women , and my main criticism of that novel was that the transition from present to past was often not smooth enough, it was too bogged down in unrealistic dialo...more

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Feb 11, 2008 Robert Beveridge rated it 4 of 5 stars

Shelves: finished, owned-and-gave-away

Everyone knows Madeleine L'Engle, right? Admit it. You've all read A Wrinkle in Time, and you all thought it was cool. Most of you probably went on to read the other three books in the series. (Some of you probably sought out the other books in the two series that crossed over with the Time books, and you don't need to read this review, because you've probably already read this book.)

For the rest of you, who wondered what L'Engle had been doing since then... A Live Coal in the Sea is her forty-s...more Everyone knows Madeleine L'Engle, right? Admit it. You've all read A Wrinkle in Time, and you all thought it was cool. Most of you probably went on to read the other three books in the series. (Some of you probably sought out the other books in the two series that crossed over with the Time books, and you don't need to read this review, because you've probably already read this book.)

For the rest of you, who wondered what L'Engle had been doing since then... A Live Coal in the Sea is her forty-second book, at least the forty-second listed in the "Books by Madelieine L'Engle" page. A well-stocked bookstore will have books by L'Engle in fiction, young adult, drama, poetry, religion, and at least two or three other categories. I know this because while a bookstore manager I actually attempted to order a couple of everything she'd written. It was impossible. I exceeded the weekly budget. Nowadays, or at least in 1996 when this book came out, L'Engle is/was the writer in residence at the Cathedral of St. John the Divine. I'm not sure how one gets such a job, but I'll bet a good part of it has to do with writing a book that's been translated into every major (and many minor) language on Earth and has probably sold almost as many copies as the Bible.

So, the main question should probably be, has she lost any of that power in the last thirty-odd years since A Wrinkle in Time made its unassuming debut? And if not, why aren't her books still selling like hotcakes? The answer to the second question has to do with the changing priorities in the publishing business far more than it has to do with L'Engle, and the answer ot the first question is "not really." _A Live Coal in the Sea_ is a simple, warmhearted, moving family-type novel that has about as much in common with most books that fit that description as The Day the Earth Stood Still has in common with Plan Nine from Outer Space.

The book centers on Camilla Xanthakos, an astronomy professor at a small university in New York, and her granddaughter Raffi, a freshman at the same institution. One evening Raffi comes to Camilla's house and asks, "are you or are you not my grandmother?," thanks to a comment from her glamorous, overstressed, childish father. The book slides between Camilla's reminiscences of the past, and how they affect Camilla, Raffi, and their family and friends in the present. In other words, it's another heritage mystery. But it's handled in such a different way than The Quincunx (for one point, all the prevarication about whether to tell who about what is handled offstage, which is why this book is only slightly over three hundred pages) that, despite the fact that I was reading the two in tandem, I could draw no connections between them other than the most basic plot point.

Another thing that sets L'Engle apart from her contemporaries, and this is far more true now than it used to be, is her use of Christianity in her work. Contemporary Christian novels are far more likely to deal with God-as-concept rather than the human side of the religion; that's why it's so refreshing to go back and read Mauriac, or L'Engle's stuff, instead of trying to choke down these "War in Heaven" style novels that have little, if anything, to do with the human struggle to reconcile the existence of some kind of supreme being with what humanity faces on a day-to-day basis. And the Xanthakos family is faced with a whole bunch of it, from every direction, including inside (you don't have a scientist in the family without having the family faith questioned), and yet still everyone is able to reconcile the faith to the fallacy, and in a logical manner to boot. Questioning faithful types will probably find some affirmation in here; nonbelievers who have always wondered how thiking Christians reconcile things (especially those nonbelievers who have never been able to get good answers to some questions) may find answers in here. I did.

So the plot's good, the characterizations are fine, the theme is downright excellent, it's gonna get five stars, right? Nope. It doesn't quite hit lifechanger level, and the ending is something I'm still trying to figure out; to say more would consitute spoilage. Still, it's certainly a worthwhile book to pick up, as is anything by Madeleine L'Engle; the lady's still turning out better material than most of what's out there. (less)

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Feb 14, 2010 Michelle rated it 1 of 5 stars

Shelves: partial-reads

As a tween and teenager, I read every Madeline L'Engle book I could get my hands on, and loved every one of them. This is the first of her books that I've picked up since then, and the first one I've tried that was intended for an adult (rather than young reader) audience. I made it through about thirty pages. The plotline seemed pretty bland, but the thing that really killed if for me and made me unable to keep reading was the dialogue, which was just not at all believable. Nobody talks like th...more

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Oct 24, 2012 Elizabeth Barrier rated it 3 of 5 stars

What I really liked about this book was the constant reminders of mercy and love in the midst of horrendous circumstances. The book deals with themes of sexual misconduct and how one person's sin can affect many generations. I do not always agree with L'Engle theologically, but the redemptive and hopeful tone of this book was refreshing. I should also note that this book has some foul language in it and I wouldn't recommend it for young readers because of its themes.

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Jun 28, 2011 Jes rated it 3 of 5 stars

Wow, I suspected the ending, but I was still surprised (and relieved) to stumble onto it.

This was a very healing book. Even though the content was hard and felt like swallowing heavy rocks, I think it was good for me to read. Camilla is such a silent, strong woman. And I ached when Mac would retreat.

I think it's good for us young marrieds to read about couples who've made their marriages work through crappy times, hard times, dealing with pain. Not knowing what pain Nayt & I may need to en...more

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Jan 02, 2010 Patsy rated it 3 of 5 stars

As with all Madeleine L'Engle books, this is beautifully written. There is a wonderful underlying theme of mercy and forgiveness in this novel. And, an interesting melding of science and divine faith. The charcters are flawed but likable. But, it's a story of one family's drama that seems almost unbearable but somehow gets resolved. Just a bit too easy an ending for all the build up. But worth reading for the gorgeous prose.

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Mar 14, 2013 Melissa rated it 3 of 5 stars

This was an easy read, but not a great one. My expectations were probably too high, since Wrinkle in Time was such a fantastic book. The writing feels a little stilted and old fashioned (the characters talk without contractions: "I can not imagine.." "You will not do that.." and there isn't really any plot progression. It's a story that is told through flashbacks to a girl. That's it. Once the memory has been told, the book ends.

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Jun 23, 2011 Stephanie rated it 4 of 5 stars

Shelves: 2011, fiction, look-at-life, thought-provoking

This is probably the first L'Engle book I've read that I haven't rated 5 stars. I love her style and I love the issues she usually takes on, but I didn't really care for the characters or the situations in this book. It was a good reminder that yes, a lot of things in life are hard, but you get through it, and yet my problem with this book was that it didn't really highlight what the good things are. Ah well. Glad I read it anyway.

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Nov 14, 2010 Janna rated it 3 of 5 stars

I loved every word written by Madeleine L'Engle in her youth novels, and most of her nonfiction as well. I cried when she died in 2007, feeling like a beloved "wise woman" had passed from my life. But I haven't been a huge fan of her adult fiction. For me, this book was too melodramatic (too much infidelity) and the important themes of love and mercy were overworked and did not ring as true.

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Jan 03, 2009 Judy rated it 3 of 5 stars

My trouble with this one was keeping the characters straight. Taxi is too much like Zachary from her teen novels, Camilla reminded me too much of Poly--or was it Vicky? That's my main problem with Madeleine L'Engle--the stories have good ideas, but the characters are weak, and some of the events are embarrassingly contrived. This one held together better than most, though.

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About Madeleine L'Engle

Madeleine L'Engle was an American writer best known for her Young Adult fiction, particularly the Newbery Medal-winning A Wrinkle in Time and its sequels A Wind in the Door, A Swiftly Tilting Planet, and Many Waters. Her works reflect her strong interest in modern science: tesseracts, for example, are featured prominently in A Wrinkle in Time, mitochondrial DNA in A Wind in the Door, organ regener...more Madeleine L'Engle was an American writer best known for her Young Adult fiction, particularly the Newbery Medal-winning A Wrinkle in Time and its sequels A Wind in the Door, A Swiftly Tilting Planet, and Many Waters. Her works reflect her strong interest in modern science: tesseracts, for example, are featured prominently in A Wrinkle in Time, mitochondrial DNA in A Wind in the Door, organ regeneration in The Arm of the Starfish, and so forth.

"Madeleine was born on November 29th, 1918, and spent her formative years in New York City. Instead of her school work, she found that she would much rather be writing stories, poems and journals for herself, which was reflected in her grades (not the best). However, she was not discouraged.

At age 12, she moved to the French Alps with her parents and went to an English boarding school where, thankfully, her passion for writing continued to grow. She flourished during her high school years back in the United States at Ashley Hall in Charleston, South Carolina, vacationing with her mother in a rambling old beach cottage on a beautiful stretch of Florida Beach.

She went to Smith College and studied English with some wonderful teachers as she read the classics and continued her own creative writing. She graduated with honors and moved into a Greenwich Village apartment in New York. She worked in the theater, where Equity union pay and a flexible schedule afforded her the time to write! She published her first two novels during these years--A Small Rain and Ilsa--before meeting Hugh Franklin, her future husband, when she was an understudy in Anton Chekov's The Cherry Orchard. They married during The Joyous Season.

She had a baby girl and kept on writing, eventually moving to Connecticut to raise the family away from the city in a small dairy farm village with more cows than people. They bought a dead general store, and brought it to life for 9 years. They moved back to the city with three children, and Hugh revitalized his professional acting career. The family has kept the country house, Crosswicks, and continues to spend summers there.

As the years passed and the children grew, Madeleine continued to write and Hugh to act, and they to enjoy each other and life. Madeleine began her association with the Cathedral Church of St. John the Divine, where she has been the librarian and maintained an office for more than thirty years. After Hugh's death in 1986, it was her writing and lecturing that kept her going. She has now lived through the 20th century and into the 21st and has written over 60 books and keeps writing. She enjoys being with her friends, her children, her grandchildren, and her great grandchildren."

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