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In a near-future France, François, a middle-aged academic, is watching his life slowly dwindle to nothing. His sex drive is diminished, his parents are dead, and his lifelong obsession – the ideas and works of the nineteenth-century novelist Joris-Karl Huysmans – has led him nowhere. In a late-capitalist society where consumerism has become the new religion, François is sp
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Hardcover, 246 pages
Published
October 20th 2015
by Farrar, Straus and Giroux
(first published January 7th 2015)
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Krista
C'est très raciste, islamophobe, et misogyne. Pour cet Americaine, le livre est comme "The Sun Also Rises" par Hemingway.
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This week, on Dystopia! Michel Houellebecq discusses the future with Robert Heinlein
- Good evening, M. Houellebecq.
- Bonsoir, M. Heinlein. Alors, please, tell me your vision of the future.
- Sure. So Western civilization, it's already--
- --in a process of, ah, désintegration?
- You got it, buddy. As my old friend Cyril Kornbluth used to say, they breed faster than we do.
- Muslims, monsieur?
- People with low IQs. Same difference.
- Excusez-moi, monsieur, my novel is respectful towards the Muslim wor ...more
- Good evening, M. Houellebecq.
- Bonsoir, M. Heinlein. Alors, please, tell me your vision of the future.
- Sure. So Western civilization, it's already--
- --in a process of, ah, désintegration?
- You got it, buddy. As my old friend Cyril Kornbluth used to say, they breed faster than we do.
- Muslims, monsieur?
- People with low IQs. Same difference.
- Excusez-moi, monsieur, my novel is respectful towards the Muslim wor ...more
Wow. Great satire ... of French ... of European ... of Western values ... or lack thereof. So well done that the irony often slips by unnoticed. Who the hell are we?
Soumission
So what do you call a novel about Muslims taking over control of France? A novel of generally cynical politics? A novel where women appear mostly in sexually explicit scenes and have little to say except in defining themselves in relation to men (some exceptions)? A novel where 15 year old girls become acceptable as second ...more
Soumission
So what do you call a novel about Muslims taking over control of France? A novel of generally cynical politics? A novel where women appear mostly in sexually explicit scenes and have little to say except in defining themselves in relation to men (some exceptions)? A novel where 15 year old girls become acceptable as second ...more
Jan 19, 2015
♥ Ibrahim ♥
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As a former Muslim, I see that Houellebecq is right on the money. I escaped Egypt my country in search of a land of freedom, and yet here oppression is chasing after me in the West. We love for Europe to be Europe. After all, that is why we left our mother countries in search of a more civilized world where human dignity is respected. By the way, please take a moment to read my story of conversion into Christianity and drop me a line and I will be your friend:
http://www.answering-islam.org/autho ...more
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Mar 04, 2016
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I set out to read this book expecting to be provoked because in my experience Houellebecq is always hell-bent on provoking somebody, and very often that 'somebody' is of the opposite sex. I wasn’t disappointed this time; his narrator managed to provoke me right at the beginning, and regularly from then on, so I decided that the only way to review this book was with a full set of teeth on show!
But relax, my teeth are not ‘bared’, just revealed in a wide smile because the only way to take the twe ...more
But relax, my teeth are not ‘bared’, just revealed in a wide smile because the only way to take the twe ...more
This is a case of a novel of ideas with the best (or worst) possible timing. The very day it was published in French was the day of the Charlie Hebdo shootings; a few short weeks after the English translation came out, Paris was attacked again.
Our protagonist, whose name I've already forgotten, is a professor of 19th century literature and an gormless slob who eats microwave food and hires prostitutes to lick his balls. He, like many Houellebecq protagonists, moves through life with a depressed ...more
Our protagonist, whose name I've already forgotten, is a professor of 19th century literature and an gormless slob who eats microwave food and hires prostitutes to lick his balls. He, like many Houellebecq protagonists, moves through life with a depressed ...more
Il est de bon ton de critiquer le dernier Houellebecq.
Les fans des Particules élémentaires y voient une œuvre mineure, annonciatrice de l'inéluctable déclin du grand homme ; les contempteurs du prix Goncourt, un énième ressassement de sa veulerie beauf.
Je ne crierai pas avec les loups. Pour trois raisons.
1. Le style. Houellebecq écrit bien. Fichtrement bien. Avec l'air de ne pas y toucher. Et pourtant avec un perfectionnisme qui force d'autant plus l'admiration qu'il a l'humilité de ne pas se la ...more
Les fans des Particules élémentaires y voient une œuvre mineure, annonciatrice de l'inéluctable déclin du grand homme ; les contempteurs du prix Goncourt, un énième ressassement de sa veulerie beauf.
Je ne crierai pas avec les loups. Pour trois raisons.
1. Le style. Houellebecq écrit bien. Fichtrement bien. Avec l'air de ne pas y toucher. Et pourtant avec un perfectionnisme qui force d'autant plus l'admiration qu'il a l'humilité de ne pas se la ...more
Sex, Religion and Politics
If you only read one book about sex, religion and politics this year, make sure it's this one!
It packs enormous punch into (far) less than 300 pages, raising the question yet again why novels need to be 562 or 1,376 pages long (and if they do on the basis of some subjective criterion, why they aren't written with such consistent verve, intelligence, wit and humour as "Submission").
For all the philosophy, this novel is paced like a mass market thriller or the screenplay ...more
If you only read one book about sex, religion and politics this year, make sure it's this one!
It packs enormous punch into (far) less than 300 pages, raising the question yet again why novels need to be 562 or 1,376 pages long (and if they do on the basis of some subjective criterion, why they aren't written with such consistent verve, intelligence, wit and humour as "Submission").
For all the philosophy, this novel is paced like a mass market thriller or the screenplay ...more
Not only none of this sound scary, none of this sounded especially new.
Francois, the protagonist and narrator of Submission, is a man thoroughly burned out; although he teaches at the Sorbonne and is a specialist in the work of Joris-Karl Huysmans, he thinks little of his job and by his own admission has not done any important academic research in decades. At 44, He has no contact with his divorced parents, and no real, close friends; he eats TV dinners and browses porn sites. Francois seems una ...more
Francois, the protagonist and narrator of Submission, is a man thoroughly burned out; although he teaches at the Sorbonne and is a specialist in the work of Joris-Karl Huysmans, he thinks little of his job and by his own admission has not done any important academic research in decades. At 44, He has no contact with his divorced parents, and no real, close friends; he eats TV dinners and browses porn sites. Francois seems una ...more
Would a society based on "Moderate Islam" be such a bad thing?
This seems to be the kind of book that divides critics into the two equally useless camps:
1) This is islamophobic and racist garbage!
2) Bravo! A dark satire!
My view is that it's neither.
All Houllebecq is saying is that a completely secular society is like a vacuum. Given the opportunity, it will let itself be filled. If you don't want to risk it being filled with something you don't like, then you shouldn't have emptied it complete ...more
This seems to be the kind of book that divides critics into the two equally useless camps:
1) This is islamophobic and racist garbage!
2) Bravo! A dark satire!
My view is that it's neither.
All Houllebecq is saying is that a completely secular society is like a vacuum. Given the opportunity, it will let itself be filled. If you don't want to risk it being filled with something you don't like, then you shouldn't have emptied it complete ...more
Above our heads the linden branches stirred in the breeze. Just then, in the distance, I heard a soft, muffled noise like an explosion.
This wasn't the dystopia I had expected. Scandalous -- such was the domestic response to this alleged fragmentation grenade. Set a few years in the future, the Muslim Brotherhood in France forms a coalition and becomes ruling party -- but what exactly follows? Changes, for sure, but ones that often elude the eye. That is, however, from a man's perspective. Women ...more
This wasn't the dystopia I had expected. Scandalous -- such was the domestic response to this alleged fragmentation grenade. Set a few years in the future, the Muslim Brotherhood in France forms a coalition and becomes ruling party -- but what exactly follows? Changes, for sure, but ones that often elude the eye. That is, however, from a man's perspective. Women ...more
C'est l'histoire d'un homme falot, malheureux et apathique qui embrasse une religion, non pas tant par conviction que par opportunisme. Finalement, comme il n'avait pas tellement de principes avant, ce n'est pas si terrible. Il y gagne même plutôt au change, en retrouvant un goût à la vie qu'il semblait avoir perdu.
Le tout prend place dans une anticipation politique dont j'étais très curieux de voir quelle forme allait être imaginée. C'est celle de la défaite des extrémistes, du triomphe de la ...more
Le tout prend place dans une anticipation politique dont j'étais très curieux de voir quelle forme allait être imaginée. C'est celle de la défaite des extrémistes, du triomphe de la ...more
Il romanzo è morto? A quanto pare sì. Vi consolerà, invece, sapere che le “scopate” godono di ottima salute. Le “seghe mentali” si piazzano a un dignitoso secondo posto. Ma si sa, ormai possono essere considerate praticamente degli evergreen. Il protagonista, al contrario, non si piazza proprio da nessuna parte. Perché non ha voglia di fare un “beato cazzo”. Neppure l’intellettuale, quale, in teoria, sarebbe.
Questo è stato il mio primo approccio a Houellebecq, e, come si può ben dedurre, non è c ...more
Questo è stato il mio primo approccio a Houellebecq, e, come si può ben dedurre, non è c ...more
(Originally reviewed March 6, 2016)
For years now, probably decades, Le Monde and all the other center-left newspapers, which is to say every newspaper, had been denouncing the "Cassandras" who predicted civil war between Muslim immigrants and the indigenous populations of Western Europe. The way it was explained to me by a colleague in the classics department, this was an odd allusion to make. In Greek mythology, Cassandra is a very beautiful young maiden ("like the golden Aphrodite," Homer wri...more
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Submissão é um livro que pode ser mau ou bom, triste ou divertido. Depende de quem o lê; ou de como o lê; ou de como o quer ler; ou se lê mais, ou lê menos do que aquilo que está escrito.
Lê-se bem e depressa; a escrita é simples e as letras são gordas.
A única estrela com que o avalio não reflete desprazer pela prosa, ou pela forma como o romance está estruturado, no entanto, o conteúdo...(nas pesquisas que fiz sobre Michel Houellebecq li que, qu ...more
Submissão é um livro que pode ser mau ou bom, triste ou divertido. Depende de quem o lê; ou de como o lê; ou de como o quer ler; ou se lê mais, ou lê menos do que aquilo que está escrito.
Lê-se bem e depressa; a escrita é simples e as letras são gordas.
A única estrela com que o avalio não reflete desprazer pela prosa, ou pela forma como o romance está estruturado, no entanto, o conteúdo...(nas pesquisas que fiz sobre Michel Houellebecq li que, qu ...more
An amusing fictional mirroring of the life of Joris-Karl Huysmans: a misanthropic scholar, contemplating suicide, fed up of his philandering and hollow ways, over the hill in his career, unable to understand Huysmans’s Catholic conversion, follows the 2022 elections, where the Muslim Brotherhood come to power, leading our anti-hero into his own religious conversion, albeit for impure and perverted reasons. The novel contains nothing controversial about Islam—its worst sin is misinformation. Subm
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Για έναν συγγραφέα όπως ο Ουελμπέκ, τα συναισθήματα είναι ακραία μεταξύ των αναγνωστών: είτε τον λατρεύεις είτε τον απεχθάνεσαι. Την απέχθεια δεν την καταλαβαίνω, μα τα πράματα έτσι είναι και δεν μπορούν να είναι αλλιώς. Μιλώντας για ένα βιβλίο το Ουελμπέκ, λοιπόν, θεωρώ πως πρέπει να είναι ξεκάθαρη η αρχική θέση του αναγνώστη. Κι εγώ δηλώνω οπαδός του. Το βιβλίο αυτό το έπιασα μετά το μάλλον μέτριο «Ο Χάρτη και η Επικράτεια». Οι προσδοκίες μου ήταν ανάμεικτες και σαφώς επηρεασμένες από το ευρύτ
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Fosse stato uno qualsiasi, ci avrebbe parlato di terroristi o di banlieu lasciandoci liberi di immaginare la soluzione del problema in termini di intelligence e ordine pubblico o di integrazione e sussidi.
Ma siccome è Michel Houellebecq, ossia da circa vent'anni uno dei più fastidiosi e lucidi analisti della condizione dell'individuo nel meraviglioso mondo del capitalismo avanzato (nonché il titolare di una delle più belle prose contemporanee, il cui ritmo interno rischia di non arrivare alle tr ...more
Why do I always have to think of an iceberg when reading Houellebecq? It is that icy tone of voice in his writing while you sense that there is a vast amount of nasty coldness that stays hidden underneath. His dislike of women and, really, his disgust for mankind is always evident. I do admire though how he evokes in this novel a world that could be entirely possible. One could fit perfectly in this new world order if you do not care about your principles in any strong way. Francois, the protago
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Michel Houellebecq’s latest novel Submission is set in France in 2022 where a Muslim political leader becomes President and Islamic law is established nationwide. Women must be veiled while their education and equality is curtailed, and polygamy is encouraged.
The protagonist is Francois, a middle-aged academic who teaches the work of nineteenth century novelist Joris-Karl Huysmans at the Sorbonne. A sad single man, Francois reminisces on the many former affairs he had with his students and feel ...more
The protagonist is Francois, a middle-aged academic who teaches the work of nineteenth century novelist Joris-Karl Huysmans at the Sorbonne. A sad single man, Francois reminisces on the many former affairs he had with his students and feel ...more
Oct 31, 2015
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Set in Paris in 2022, a controversial Muslim leader wins the presidential election and introduces Islamic law throughout the country. An academic, François, now has to try and deal with a Paris in which all women must be veiled and his job at the Islamic University of Paris-Sorbonne is in jeopardy.
I really quite enjoyed this novel in the beginning. The translation is very good, the whole thing flows well. The musings of François are interesting if highly conceited and insufferable. I liked being ...more
I really quite enjoyed this novel in the beginning. The translation is very good, the whole thing flows well. The musings of François are interesting if highly conceited and insufferable. I liked being ...more
Είχα καιρό να γελάσω έτσι. Το κακιασμένο σχεδόν μισάνθρωπο χιούμορ του Ουελμπέκ τσακίζει κόκαλα. Δεν ξέρω αν είναι ταλαντούχος συγγραφέας, αλλά είναι σίγουρα μια παμπόνηρη αλεπού, που ξέρει τον τρόπο να σατιρίζει ανελέητα. Αντί να γράψει ένα έργο που να καταφέρεται ενάντια στο Ισλάμ γράφει ένα βιβλίο που φαινομενικά το εγκωμιάζει, το παρουσιάζει να επικρατεί και πετυχαίνει έτσι και τους Μουσουλμάνους να μην προσβάλλει και τους Δυτικούς να προβληματίσει. Βασικά τις γυναίκες. Να κάτσω εγώ να φορέσ
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Die Prämisse dieses Buchs habe ich für ausreichend interessant erachtet, um es mir zu kaufen. Leider hat mich der jüngste Roman von Michel Houellebecq in mehrerlei Hinsicht enttäuscht.
Ich-Erzähler dieser Geschichte ist François, Professor für Literaturwissenschaft an einer Universität in Paris im Jahre 2022. Bei der Präsidentenwahl in Frankreich erlangt die islamische Partei der Muslimbrüder überraschend die zweit meisten Stimmen und kann in einer Koalition mit den Sozialisten die Regierung bild ...more
Ich-Erzähler dieser Geschichte ist François, Professor für Literaturwissenschaft an einer Universität in Paris im Jahre 2022. Bei der Präsidentenwahl in Frankreich erlangt die islamische Partei der Muslimbrüder überraschend die zweit meisten Stimmen und kann in einer Koalition mit den Sozialisten die Regierung bild ...more
Mai întâi de toate trebuie să admit că e o carte de care te dezlipești cu un efort supra-omenesc - am citit-o în trei șederi, cele 300 de pagini fiind ca și neexistente. În plus, premonițiile lui Houellebecq sunt ai naibii de realiste, criza democrațiilor consumeriste nu e una ficțională, iar mișcările tectonice dictate de schimbările demografice trag după sine schimbări esențiale în modul în care-i organizată lumea nostră. Dincolo de toate, o lectură revigorantă care m-a absorbit pe de-a-ntregu
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Charlie Hebdo (7 de Janeiro 2015)
Depois de ler o primeiro romance do controverso e irascível escritor francês Michel Houellebecq (n. 1956) ”Extensão do Domínio da Luta” (1994) o seu último livro ”Submissão” (2015) suscitou-me um interesse crescente, uma vez que foi publicado em França, no início de Janeiro de 2015, num dos momentos mais dramáticos da sociedade francesa, com o ataque terrorista à redacção do semanário satírico Charlie Hebdo do qual resultaram doze mortos e que tinha feito capa co ...more
Many readers have read “naughty boy” Michel Houellebecq’s latest novel as an Islamophobic diatribe. I don’t agree. Houellebecq has been justifiably criticized for earlier comments about Islam and surely “Soumission” does cater to the increasing French concern that what happened near Poitiers in 732 CE was only, for Islam, a temporary setback, but the real targets of his satire here are French politicians and French professors. In fact, one can read this as one of France’s relatively rare “academ
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Soumission est le Brave New World de notre siècle,une fiction d'anticipation qui révèle davantage les peurs d'une population (masculine, quadragénaire et française) et d'une époque qu'une vision vraisemblable de l'avenir du pays. Houellebecq propose une fable glauque, brillante, intelligente, érudite, lugubre, mais aussi très drôle par moment, que les événements de ces derniers jours viennent en grande partie contredire.
La France n'est ni apathique, ni épuisée, ni prête à la soumission ... mais, ...more
La France n'est ni apathique, ni épuisée, ni prête à la soumission ... mais, ...more
Francois is a middle-aged college professor living in Paris. He's an empty, depressing sort of guy who only seems to perk up for food or sex. He has no real community, and his sole relationship--an on-again-off-again thing with a 22-year old student--is going nowhere.
When various machinations bring the Muslims to power, all of France falls under religious rule almost overnight. Francois loses his job since only Muslims can teach at government-funded schools, but he’s welcome to return if he’s w ...more
When various machinations bring the Muslims to power, all of France falls under religious rule almost overnight. Francois loses his job since only Muslims can teach at government-funded schools, but he’s welcome to return if he’s w ...more
“Only literature can grant you access to a spirit from beyond the grave—a more direct, more complete, deeper access than you’d have in conversation with a friend.”
That is as far as I agree with Michel Houellebecq’s views, and for that I was a bit fuzzy if I should read this book or not. In one hand, it sounded brilliant, in the other, Islamophobic. But I picked it up anyways, and now I rest in a limbo, a fun in-between a well written novel and a ridiculous view of Islam.
Now, this book is set i ...more
That is as far as I agree with Michel Houellebecq’s views, and for that I was a bit fuzzy if I should read this book or not. In one hand, it sounded brilliant, in the other, Islamophobic. But I picked it up anyways, and now I rest in a limbo, a fun in-between a well written novel and a ridiculous view of Islam.
Now, this book is set i ...more
El autor contemporáneo francés Michele Houellebeqc nos deleita nuevamente con esta obra desplegando su punzante y corrosivo estilo lleno de humor que hace muy disfrutables sus novelas. El autor reafirma su calidad en la creación en este género de literatura y ahora mezcla magistralmente la vida política, religiosa y social en la Francia del siglo XXI con la obra y el pensamiento de Jan- Karlis Huysmans. También pone de manifiesto, a través de su personaje, esa profunda relación que el siente con
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Michel Houellebecq (born Michel Thomas), born 26 February 1958 (birth certificate) or 1956 on the French island of Réunion, is a controversial and award-winning French novelist. To admirers he is a writer in the tradition of literary provocation that reaches back to the Marquis de Sade and Baudelaire; to detractors he is a peddler of sleaze and shock. Having written poetry and a biography of the h
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