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The Forever War
From the front lines of the battle against Islamic fundamentalism, a searing, unforgettable book that captures the human essence of the greatest conflict of our time.
Through the eyes of Dexter Filkins, the prizewinning New York Times correspondent whose work was hailed by David Halberstam as “reporting of the highest quality imaginable,” we witness the remarkable chain of ...more
Through the eyes of Dexter Filkins, the prizewinning New York Times correspondent whose work was hailed by David Halberstam as “reporting of the highest quality imaginable,” we witness the remarkable chain of ...more
Hardcover, 342 pages
Published
October 16th 2008
by Knopf
(first published 2008)
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i was initially irritated by filkins refusal to widen focus and take in the broader picture, y’know, the ‘how’ and ‘why’ behind the iraq war -- i wanted a top-down history starting with the geo-political chessboard and ending with boots on the ground. i was quick to realize i had put my own demands, the demands of a history book, on what is something entirely different. filkins knows that, generally speaking, the participants in wars (even in the age of internet, tivo, and cell phone) do not hav...more
When you invade and break countries, bad shit usually happens.
Doesn't always have to, but the dial leans that way.
Good shit happens too, but it needs nurturing, time, and a whole pile o' shit-ass luck, especially when what was broken is used to seeing it all go down through a different set of goggles.
The bad shit needs little prompting—it's nature's wily stunted bastard child hopped up on Skittles™ and chuffing smoke.
Be very careful when you break shit lik...more
Doesn't always have to, but the dial leans that way.
Good shit happens too, but it needs nurturing, time, and a whole pile o' shit-ass luck, especially when what was broken is used to seeing it all go down through a different set of goggles.
The bad shit needs little prompting—it's nature's wily stunted bastard child hopped up on Skittles™ and chuffing smoke.
Be very careful when you break shit lik...more
Dexter Filkins, the author of The Forever War, is a New York Times foreign correspondent who covered the middle east from Afghanistan's Taliban rule in 1998 to Iraq through 2006.
I should probably confess right away that I'm not a fan of journalism. I resent the whole idea of getting information from people who are in the business of selling it. I don't know what the alternative would be, but still....it seems like a conflict of interest.
On top of that, there is the issue ...more
I should probably confess right away that I'm not a fan of journalism. I resent the whole idea of getting information from people who are in the business of selling it. I don't know what the alternative would be, but still....it seems like a conflict of interest.
On top of that, there is the issue ...more
Technically, The Forever War is a work of reportage - magnificent reportage, in fact - but that's not all it is. For one thing, Filkin's tone is at times more personal, more anguished, than conventional journalism usually allows. For another, the cumulative impact of the pieces is beyond the literary reach of your average hack reporter. I'd suggest, then, that it belongs to that growing subgenre known as survivor literature: traveller's tales, in effect, brought back from a netherworld of hum...more
I have a shelf of books on Iraq & Afghanistan – mostly unfinished because the absurdity and the carnage, the futility and mendacity, are too dispiriting and I have to put them down. Filkins has written something different, a first person account of what it's like to be in the midst of American soldiers and Iraqi citizens – his book is a series of vignettes, carefully observed and plainly written. It pretty much avoids the political background and concentrates on the foreground, people he knows, ...more
I withheld a star despite my belief that this book MUST be read; read today.
Filkins writes about his experiences as a war reporter in Afghanistan and Iraq (mostly the book is about Iraq). It is composed of short, medium, and long vignettes. He makes no effort to connect them.
It works as fiction works, implicitly. Mainly Filkins describes his situations and leaves his readers the job of interpreting. Some of these are as mundane as jogging along the Tigris river. Oth...more
Filkins writes about his experiences as a war reporter in Afghanistan and Iraq (mostly the book is about Iraq). It is composed of short, medium, and long vignettes. He makes no effort to connect them.
It works as fiction works, implicitly. Mainly Filkins describes his situations and leaves his readers the job of interpreting. Some of these are as mundane as jogging along the Tigris river. Oth...more
The best book yet on Iraq, from a Taliban execution in 1998 to the WTC, where Filkins sees an intestine lying on the ground, to Iraq, where an attempt to get the story gets a Marine killed. Visceral, smart, funny, and pained (the acknowledgements mention, in passing, that these experiences destroyed his marriage), with sweeping, memorable images of devastation and meaningless absurdity mixed with short-short stories--a fitting equal to Herr's Dispatches, and also sneakily alluding, I would guess...more
Terrific. My only complaint is that the story ends before more current events, such as the Surge, take place. (I’d love to read Filkins on-the-ground take on that.) However, there is a moment late in the book where Filkins interviews an Iraqi terrorist who is getting more than a bit sick of Al-Qaeda (the "foreigners") killing fellow Iraqis. It's something of a sea change, since the result is an ordered hit against two Al-Qaeda gunmen. I was also hoping for more on Afghanistan, probabl...more
I can't remember who recommended this book, so I don't know who to thank...but I walked away from this book with my mouth open, shaking my head in awe.
This man can *write*. He brought scenes from war-ravaged countries into my living room, and found a way to accentuate both the devastation and the quiet small moments, creating a book that horrifies and educates and gives you hope, all at once.
Really, read this.
This man can *write*. He brought scenes from war-ravaged countries into my living room, and found a way to accentuate both the devastation and the quiet small moments, creating a book that horrifies and educates and gives you hope, all at once.
Really, read this.
Outstanding war-writing from a respected and talented correspondent/writer. After so many disappointing books written by hacks, Filkins manages to elevate the status of "war-memoir-as-written-by-a-reporter." Filkins does not offer solutions, but he objectively presents a picture of what is going on in the Middle East, what our strengths and weaknesses are, and the devastating fact that there will be no easy resolution to this forever war. Highly recommended; one for your permanent b...more
I wish there were a six-star rating. I've been reading a lot of Iraq and Afghanistan war books lately and this one is heads and shoulders above all of them. Not because it uncovers any sort of unique secret truths, but because of its artful and engaging prose. Filkins, a NY Times reporter, largely tells his own story of being on the ground in Iraq. By doing so, he gives the reader an entree into the experience that would be impossible if he had used a detached, reporter-like voice. It's well wor...more
Clare
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The Forever War - I had been thinking, it seemed like a long time: I was in high school when we invaded Iraq, I was in college and we were still there, I graduated college and not much has changed, only news coverage of the war has decreased as we've moved on to other wars. But since Dexter Filkins starts his book in Afghanistan, and it looks like we'll be there until the end of time, too, you get the sense that he could keep adding chapters to this book until it grew to a multi-volume set. As...more
Dexter Filkins, a New York Times reporter, spent somewhere in the neighborhood of a decade reporting on developments in Iraq and Afghanistan. He watched the current US wars unfold. In The Forever War, Filkins reports his stories in bits and pieces. He likes to be where the action is and find out what people are thinking and doing. He talks to soldiers, Iraqi citizens, warlords, political leaders, and insurgents. Amidst all the chaos he describes, Filkins goes to great pains (often literally) to ...more
What an amazing book, one of the best I've read this year. Dexter Filkins makes the Iraq War—the experience of war itself— visceral and immediate. You smell the cordite, the burning flesh, the stink of fear; feel the anxiety, the exhilaration, the sorrow, the anger, and the numbness. He doesn't try to make sense of the insanity; he records it as he saw it, offering background and context that no newspaper story or radio report, by its very nature, can relay.
A reader emailed Filkin...more
A reader emailed Filkin...more
Did anyone else read the review of this in the NYT Book Review this weekend? Here's a glimpse of the review: "It is not facetious to speak of work like that of Dexter Filkins as defining the 'culture' of a war. The contrast of his eloquence and humanity with the shameless snake-oil salesmanship employed by the American government to get the thing started serves us well."
Or this:
"The work Filkins accomplishes in 'The Forever War' is one of the most effecti...more
Or this:
"The work Filkins accomplishes in 'The Forever War' is one of the most effecti...more
Gripping, horrifying grounds-eye view of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Filkins was the New York Times correspondent for both wars and his book is a series of beautifully written set pieces about what life was like on streets for civilians, soldiers, and journalists. He seems to risk his life to get the story and thank goodness he lived to tell this tale.
This reads more like a stream of consciousness journal of experiences, interactions, observations during the author's several years in Iraq and, to a lesser degree, Aghanistan. He lives among the inhabitants and writes nicely of them and their lives. His account moves, chapter by chapter, from disturbing images and acts of depraved brutality to moments of routine humanity colored by the culture and ethos of Iraq to acts of heroism and sacrifice to mundane moments of unremarkable routine. Not ...more
Mark Sequeira
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A well-written, exciting, 'easy-to-like' book that is also pretty negative on America's impact/war in Iraq and Afghanistan. It seems to either have been written during (or from notes written during) the height of the insurgency so that might account for some of the negativity. Still, it gives an important counter-point to much of the 'everything is going swimmingly' accounts out there. (Are there such accounts out there?...Probably not in print anyway. Maybe talk radio?) I think the thing that I...more
I picked this book up from a library display because I really know nothing about the Iraq/Afghanistan war. The author is a reporter from the New York Times who spent some time in Afghanistan and several years in Iraq.
Although there is somewhat of an agenda to the book, it is not a treatise or in any way intended to be a policy statement or overall analysis of the war. It seems more to be a collection of anecdotes that never fit into any NYT stories. This works for me; like "...more
Although there is somewhat of an agenda to the book, it is not a treatise or in any way intended to be a policy statement or overall analysis of the war. It seems more to be a collection of anecdotes that never fit into any NYT stories. This works for me; like "...more
Very eye opening told by an eye witness to what really happened in Afghanistan and Iraq. Some great exerpts:
Iraq was a con game.
"They are all playing us", Kaifesh said, arching his eyebrows.
Democracy as we know it is a disease.
Overnight the Iraqi police, the Iraqi national guard and the Iraqi army disappeared.
"Abu Hishma Resident ID," the card said in English. Not a word was in Arabic.
"They tell their children...more
Iraq was a con game.
"They are all playing us", Kaifesh said, arching his eyebrows.
Democracy as we know it is a disease.
Overnight the Iraqi police, the Iraqi national guard and the Iraqi army disappeared.
"Abu Hishma Resident ID," the card said in English. Not a word was in Arabic.
"They tell their children...more
Wes Bishop
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This is an amazing book. Shortlisted for the Pulitzer prize, Dexter Filkins account of the wars in Afghanistan to Iraq, plunges the reader into America's major military operations for the first decade of the 21st century. From the streets of Baghdad, to Taliban controlled Afghanistan, to ground zero in New York City, Filkins earns the readers trust from page one because unlike many writers he has no political ax to grind, no agenda to further. Instead he is a rare example of an honest to god rep...more
How dangerous is life in Iraq, Dexter Filkins, author of The Forever War, states that the NY Times is paying a $14,000 a month life insurance premium for him while he lives in Iraq. The book is full of frightening examples of the danger that exists, not just for an American journalist, but obviously for the soldiers but also for virtually every Iraqi.
In my opinion, rather than interpret the motives and meaning of what is taking place, Mr. Filkins reported on what he saw taking place...more
In my opinion, rather than interpret the motives and meaning of what is taking place, Mr. Filkins reported on what he saw taking place...more
Covers Filkins's time as a correspondent (for the LAT and NYT) in Taliban-era (1998-2000) Afghanistan, the 9/11 attacks on New York, the US post-9/11 invasion of Afghanistan, with the bulk of the book covering the period after the 2003 invasion of Iraq.
I've read a couple of books now in the "Iraq - WTF?" genre. The best have been Fiasco: The American Military Adventure in Iraq by Washington Post correspondent Thomas Ricks and Imperial Life in the Emerald City: Inside Baghdad's Green Zone...more
I've read a couple of books now in the "Iraq - WTF?" genre. The best have been Fiasco: The American Military Adventure in Iraq by Washington Post correspondent Thomas Ricks and Imperial Life in the Emerald City: Inside Baghdad's Green Zone...more
I expected this book, a NYT reporter's stories of Iraq and Afghanistan between 2000 and 2006, to be a chore or a penance, like The Dark Side. While it's disturbing in its own way, it's a gripping read, more Black Hawk Down than political analysis. Filkins may have been fundamentally an observer but he manages to write about his experiences in a way that draws the reader into the middle of the action.
Filkins was sent to report on the Taliban before 9/11, and the book opens with him witn...more
Filkins was sent to report on the Taliban before 9/11, and the book opens with him witn...more
I'd highly recommended this book for anyone who wants a gritty, intelligent account of what it's like on the ground in war-torn Iraq and Afghanistan. If the author ever wore rose colored glasses, he took them off when he wrote this book, and smashed them apart with a sledge hammer. This does not read like a history book. It begins with Filkin's beautifully written first-hand account of the invasion of Fallujah. It ends with a description of a bunch of former Iraqi informants for the New York Tim...more
Filkins has drawn upon decades’ worth of journalistic experience in Afghanistan and Iraq to craft a book of current affairs so vivid that you’re as likely to find it on the memoir or poetry shelves as in the history section.
At face value the title seems overtly leftist, but Filkins has had his fill of partisanship. He has seen the consequences of both too much government and too little; the consequences of American intervention and of isolation. The title works on many levels, the mo...more
At face value the title seems overtly leftist, but Filkins has had his fill of partisanship. He has seen the consequences of both too much government and too little; the consequences of American intervention and of isolation. The title works on many levels, the mo...more
Named one of the "10 best books of 2008" by the New York Times and brandishing a National Book Critics Circle Award, The Forever War by journalist Dexter Filkins has been leering at me from my Need-To-Read list for quite some time. "Consider the source," I warned myself as I first cracked it open; bracing myself for the far, far, far left wing swing I expected from a book written by a former reporter for both the L.A. and New York Times. "Be patient," my inner voice...more
At a time when the newspaper industry is in an unprecedented crisis and many wonder whether it will survive, Dexter Filkins provides a powerful argument for the immensely important service that brave newspaper correspondents perform for all of us.
Filkins survived four hair-raising years in Iraq from the 2003 invasion. This vivid collection of essays tells us exactly what happened as a result of Bush's historic miscalculation.
With Filkins, we are there with the U.S. Marines as they ...more
Filkins survived four hair-raising years in Iraq from the 2003 invasion. This vivid collection of essays tells us exactly what happened as a result of Bush's historic miscalculation.
With Filkins, we are there with the U.S. Marines as they ...more
This book is chilling. It is not quite like anything else I have ever read before. Although, at times, I was reminded of All Quiet on the Western Front, with its sheer honesty and the inevitable spiral to chaos. Dexter Filkins was a foreign correspondent with the New York Times, and was on the ground in Afghanistan and Iraq, when the bad got really, really bad. The vast majority of this book describes his experience in Iraq for the four years he lived the dying city of Baghdad.
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This is a great book.
Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr., said that "it is required of a man that he should share the passion and action of his time at peril of being judged not to have lived." By that standard, Dexter Filkins has earned a very high grade.
In the epilogue, Filkins says he was "flattened" by his experiences in Iraq and Afghanistan. It's a good description. The tone of the book is almost laconic in spite of the vividly brutal events it often rec...more
Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr., said that "it is required of a man that he should share the passion and action of his time at peril of being judged not to have lived." By that standard, Dexter Filkins has earned a very high grade.
In the epilogue, Filkins says he was "flattened" by his experiences in Iraq and Afghanistan. It's a good description. The tone of the book is almost laconic in spite of the vividly brutal events it often rec...more
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