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In the third book in an astounding, genre-breaking run, China Miéville expands the horizon beyond the boundaries of New Crobuzon, setting sail on the high seas of his ever-growing world of Bas Lag.

The Scar begins with Miéville's frantic heroine, Bellis Coldwine, fleeing her beloved New Crobuzon in the peripheral wake of events relayed in Perdidio Street Station. But her v

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Published June 25th 2002 by Del Rey (first published 2000)
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Lisa Boone I read Perdido Street Station first and I don't think it is necessary to have done that to enjoy this book. It did give me a lot of background on some…moreI read Perdido Street Station first and I don't think it is necessary to have done that to enjoy this book. It did give me a lot of background on some of the locations and different "races" of folks in The Scar, but I think you would be fine reading The Scar on it's own!(less)
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Nataliya

Say goodbye to the festering filth of New Crobuzon! Welcome to a floating pirate city chock-full of mysteries, lies, betrayals, photophobic haemophages, and merciless manipulation.

Now, where do I apply for its citizenship???


A pirate city is every child's dream. Including, apparently, my own inner child, desperately in need of inner babysitter.

Before I say anything else in my review, I want to confess - I absolutely, wholeheartedly loved Armada. I loved its tolerance, its camaraderie, its stubb
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Crystal
Jun 05, 2008 Crystal rated it 5 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: weary genre fiction readers, people with big imaginations
Shelves: favorites
It took me two days to get through the last 50 pages of China Miéville's The Scar. Not because I was bored, or because the story was particularly impenetrable, but simply because I did not want the book to be over.

I did finish it, however. And for a good ten minutes after the last sentence I found myself staring into space, stunned and cut adrift and wishing for another 50 pages. When I eventually sat down to begin this review, I realized that I had no idea what made the book so amazing.

And tha
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Traveller
It's hard to avoid politics, and in particular, Mièville's politics when it comes to Bas-lag. In Mièville's Marxist oriented doctoral thesis, Between Equal Rights: A Marxist Theory of International Law, he argues that international law is fundamentally constituted by the violence of imperialism, which by implication, is driven to a large extent by capitalism.

It's not too hard to work out that New Crobuzon is the theoretical capitalist "bad guy" of Bas-lag with its secret police and under-handed
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Whitaker
I bow my head in acknowledgement of Miéville's inventiveness. Who else but the Master of Weird would have thought up of anophelii, mosquito men and women? Or of crays, people with the head and torso of a man and the lower half of a crayfish? Or of Armada, a huge floating city made up of boats and ships all tied together? To me, however, it was all just a lot of flashy window dressing. This is all well and good. Clearly there are a lot of people who enjoy that and who find it interesting. I was n ...more
David Sven
The Scar is Mieville's second book set in his Bas-Lag universe. It's a completely different story to, and as standalone as, the first book, Perdido Street Station.

This book the setting moves from the dank and dirty industrial city state of New Crobuzon featured in the first book, to Armada - a floating pirate city, full of...pirates. A city comprised of a conglomerate of derelict ships chained and roped together and re-purposed into a city both like and unlike any other.




We see some of the same
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Catie
Scars are funny things. They are traumas long past. They are reminders of people we’ve known and places we’ve been. They are healing; they are memory; they are history. Scars can change us into something brand new; scars can show the world that we’ve been irreparably broken. Scars are full of Possibility.

And so, The Armada: a place where new scars are made and old ones fall away. A massive floating city, cobbled together with stolen and salvaged boats, stolen and salvaged people. Slaves, servant
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Stephen
6.0 stars. On my list of "All Time Favorite" Novels. This is the second China Miéville novel I have read (the other being Perdido Street Station) and both that book and this one are on my all time favorite novel list. This should tell you a lot about how much I think of the authors writing and story-telling ability. In short, he is as good as it gets. The world of "Bas-lag" created by Mieville, of which New Crobuzon is its most famous city, is in my opinion as imaginative and richly detailed a w ...more
Brad
I restarted The Scar last night because I needed a dose of Mieville's prose, and was blown away, as I always am, by Mieville's description of place. This time he is describing Bas-Lag's oceans. He captures flavours and temperatures and underwater sounds and the danger inherent in the waters that have no boundaries in a way that is poetry for me. I have heard from other readers that these disconnected, deep descriptions are difficult beginnings for them, that they make it tough to connect early w ...more
Andrea
This is not an easy book to read, and this is also not a “nice” book to read. The ending doesn’t make you feel warm fuzzies that despite hardships and adventure, everyone sails off into the sunset singing gaily. You don’t feel all bubbly and relaxed and entertained. The Princess Bride this is not.

You feel disturbed. You feel upset. You feel compassion. You feel anger. You feel distaste. You feel confused. You feel overwhelmed. And at the conclusion, you feel …... scarred.

Nataliya and Catie hav
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Cecily
** Update: Since reading this, I have read "The City and The City", which I thought was MUCH better (http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/...) and then "Embassytown", which was fantastic (http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/...). This review stands as my reaction to reading it, though I now think it probably does Mieville an injustice. **

A very hard book to rate because it is so inconsistent in plot, pace, language and even genre. It could possibly be turned into a good book, but it needs a lot
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Irena
These might not be the most coherent thoughts I've written.
I am exhausted. I wasn't allowed to choose one side and stick to it. I kept switching. And I loved it.

The Scar is more adventure than Perdido Street Station and not just because most of it happens on a floating pirate city. There are mysteries, lies and betrayals, spies, monsters, magic, naval battles and so on. It's not even a spoiler; after you read the description of the book, you expect nothing less.

Bellis Coldwine, one of the protag
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Ruby  Tombstone [With A Vengeance]
When I started this book, I didn't expect to love it in the way that I loved Perdido Street Station. I was right. They are two very different books. Where Perdido.. was one fantastic, magical surprise after another, The Scar has more subtle depths. And for that, I think I love The Scar even more.
Scars are not injuries, Tanner Sack. A scar is a healing. After an injury, a scar is what makes you whole.
In The Scar, Miéville takes the idea of the scar and mines it for every possible metaphor and me
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Ben Babcock
I'm not sure how I feel about China Miéville.

On one hand, Miéville is a competent writer and, even better, a superb storyteller. The three books of his that I've read (including this one) are good. People tend to gush about his worldbuilding, often at the expense, I think, of talking about everything else that's great about his stories, but they do it because of his obvious skill in this area. Many great fantasy authors create wonderful stories by taking the traditional elements of fantasy and e
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Lyn
After reading Kraken, and The City and the City and after Perdido Street Station, it occurred to me that China Mieville was certainly one of our most imaginative and talented new writers and that he was on a short list of authors who were dramatically making new ground in new fantasy. But after reading each, I also decided, knew in fact, that he could do better, that his masterpiece was yet to be written, that as great a talent had been displayed, more, so much more could be expected.

The Scar ma
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Walker
Jul 13, 2007 Walker rated it 4 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: roleplayers
Salubrious. Pugnacious. Ossified. Juddering.

These are not words that I am using to describe China Mieville's writing, but words that China Mieville uses to describe, well, everything. The most irritating part of his otherwise excellent Perdido Street Station is still very much in play in The Scar - that is, Mieville is still kinda unsure of himself, he still feels the need to prove himself, and his method of choice is Big Long Vocabulary Words.

The problem is that he latches onto one, and then us
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Joel
Evan Leach
”There is no redemption in the sea.”
- The Scar.


The Scar is the second of China Miéville’s Bas-Lag novels. It isn’t exactly a sequel to Perdido Street Station, although the book begins right where Perdido left off. The aftermath of Perdido’s events, and the totalitarian government’s brutal search for answers, force Bellis Coldwine to flee New Crobuzon for her own safety. She sets sail for one of the city’s colonies, but her ship is attacked by pirates en route. Bellis and the other survivors fin
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Wealhtheow
Miéville writes beautiful descriptions. Everything else about this book was a slog to get through, from the monologues he has characters give in the midst of battles to the repetitious similes. Another annoying tick: characters had (incredibly obvious) realizations and then spent pages thinking about how much their mind was blown. Yes yes, we get it, your whole universe is rocked on its axis by the very idea that, say, a spy might have collected plans for an invasion. Let's get on with the story ...more
Nikki
I'm glad I was already familiar with China Miéville's work before I read The Scar. I don't think I would have appreciated it as much if I hadn't known, to some extent, what to expect. The Scar is set in the same universe as Perdido Street Station, and has links with it, although it is not set in the same city. The prose is similar, very rich and dense, and the world-building is just as intense. It can be a little hard to get into: I remember with the first book that I found myself wondering what ...more
Maggie K
I truly devoured this book.

I read Perdido and liked it, but thought it over-descriptive. Here I got caught up in the flow of words and never had a bad moment. Mieville's description of Bas-LAg and its' oceans is nothing but brilliant, and I was right there aboard each ship as the story progressed.

and a floating armada as a city? It really becomes its own character. There is just a whole pirate feel about it.

The characters were awesome, not because I liked them so much, but because I didn't! They
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Oscar
Sabía que no le había hecho justicia a este libro. La primera vez que lo leí me pasó lo que suele suceder de vez en cuando con ciertos libros, que no llegan a gustarte del todo por diversos motivos, porque o bien te has forzado a empezarlos aunque no te apetecía realmente leerlos en ese momento, con lo que ya empiezas mal, a disgusto y poco predispuesto, o bien no era el momento adecuado por razones de tipo personal, por no estar pasando por una etapa especialmente buena para ciertas lecturas. M ...more
Lori (Hellian)
And my marathon of Mielville continues! Again so different than PSS and Embassytown, I'm impressed.

Finito. Actually a few days ago. While reading Mielville I have so many thoughts, I even plan some sentences in my head for my GR review. But usually these thoughts are nowhere in sight when I sit and write! Especially with this book, because I'm still deliberating over the end. It's one of those ambivalent endings, what REALLY happened, there are various other possibilities.

Which is really the po
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Adam
Aug 08, 2011 Adam rated it 5 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: Fans of Melville and Verne
The Scar is a wonderful evocation of the macabre adventure stories of Verne and Wells, philosophical treatise on dystopias/utopias, dark steampunk fantasia in the Moorcock vein, grisly spy story, mad quest worthy of Melville, and a language showcase. I think once the shock of the new wore off that caused people to fawn over Perdido Street Station(which for the most part deserved the praise) critics and readers dimissed the other two subsequent books of Mieville’s anti-trilogy. Well, they missed ...more
Dani Smith
As much as I love China's work, and as much as I wanted to love The Scar, this book fell a bit short for me. The prologue managed to grab me and did a good job of holding me for a while, hoping that the excitement I experienced in the first pages of the novel would continue. Problem is, the story seemed to fall flat, not because it didn't have some interesting characters or definite promise, but because China fell victim to the classic writer's disease: deadwood.
The Scar is simply too wordy. Don
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Ryan
The Scar may be Miéville's best Bas-Lag novel. It's more focused than Perdido Street Station and more ambitious than Iron Council.

Miéville's saga of Armada (an ocean city made up of pirated ships) will sweep readers away as though they've rediscovered their childhood imagination. Equally enjoyable is Miéville's exploration of alternative political systems and structures, such as the vampire protectorate of Dry Fell. The plot, premise, and setting all showcase an unbridled imagination that guides
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Lit Bug
I was very, very disappointed with this – I was looking forward to another dense, dizzy ride that I had enjoyed in his previous three novels I’d read. By now, I was sufficiently familiar with his method – there would be some amazing, ridiculous, wild, but immensely interesting world-building. Maybe, there would be good characterization. Maybe, a good plot. But there would surely be a lot of underlying themes, ideas and faint insinuations, all of them politically charged.

I’d learnt not to be exac
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Michael
I loved Perdido Street Station and was excited to read the second book in the world of Bas-Lag. Mieville didn't let me down. I can't honestly say which of the two books I prefer: they are drastically different from one another, and if one couldn't conveniently think of them both as "fantasy" novels, it would be hard to place them in the same genre.

I don't want to spoil anything about the story, but I will say that The Scar reminded me in some ways of Moby Dick. Only in good ways. There weren't a
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Liam
God I love China Miéville. The worlds he creates are so deep, so well described - I could lose myself for days in his books. Good thing I still have seven to read.

When I put down Perdido I was upset to leave the world I'd been existing in in my mind for the past 800~ pages. And whilst the Scar isn't set in New Crobuzon, it does take place in Bas-Lag. If anything my feeling at the end of this book was worse, in the Scar you are introduced to so many more locations and characters in that fantastic
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Elze
This book could have been a lot more interesting if not for problems with pacing.

"The Scar" is set in the same universe as "Perdido Street Station", but is not a sequel. It follows a very strange journey of a woman named Bellis, as she flees New Crobuzon by boat in the post-Perdido-Street-Station fallout. Her goal is to emigrate to a faraway corner of Bas Lag, but her trip takes a wrong -- or rather, strange -- turn when the ship is hijacked by, and incorporated into, a floating conglomerate of
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Camille Stein
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Tengo un conocimiento que no puedo utilizar, en un viaje que no puedo controlar, con metas que ni comparto ni comprendo. Y siento nostalgia por un hogar del que tuve que huir y por un lugar que jamás he visto.

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Heredero del más frenético romanticismo iconográfico, esta segunda entrega del universo ficticio de Bas-Lag ofrece un lienzo deslumbrante, heterodoxo y estridente del mundo marino y sus recónditas criaturas. Siguiendo los patrones de la novela clásica de aventuras, el autor se aparec
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“In time, in time they tell me, I'll not feel so bad. I don't want time to heal me. There's a reason I'm like this.
I want time to set me ugly and knotted with loss of you, marking me. I won't smooth you away.
I can't say goodbye.”
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