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3.88  ·  Rating Details  ·  107,804 Ratings  ·  1,962 Reviews
Valtio on Platonin kuuluisin dialogi ja kiistaton pääteos. Se on yhteiskuntateoria ja poliittinen utopia, jonka pohjaksi Platon joutuu esittämään etiikkansa, ihmiskäsityskensä, kasvatusoppinsa, politiikkansa, taideteoriansa ja metafysiikkansa.

Valtioon sisältyy “koko Platon”, ja siitä lähtevät aatehistorialliset juonteet yltävät meidän päiviimme. Platon on alustavasti perus
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Published January 1st 1999 by Barnes & Noble (first published -380)
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Feb 09, 2011 Brendan rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: everyone
Let me explain why I'd recommend this book to everyone: Plato is stupid.


And it's important that you all understand that Western society is based on the fallacy-ridden ramblings of an idiot. Read this, understand that he is not joking, and understand that Plato is well and truly fucked in the head.

Every single one of his works goes like this:

SOCRATES: "Hello, I will now prove this theory!"
STRAWMAN: "Surely you are wrong!"
SOCRATES: "Nonsense. Listen, Strawman: can we agree to the follow
Dec 05, 2011 Everyman rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: my-library
All the criticisms of Plato are valid. He raises straw arguments. He manipulates discussions unfairly. He doesn't offer realistic solutions. And so on.

But he is still, and for very good reason, the most influential philosopher in Western civilization. He makes people think. Most authors we read today are trying to persuade us to agree with their point of view. Plato, not so. He wants you to disagree with him. He wants you to argue with him. He wants you to identify the fallacies in his arguments
Riku Sayuj

Is the attempt to determine the way of man’s life so small a matter in your eyes—to determine how life may be passed by each one of us to the greatest advantage? (1.344d)

I propose therefore that we inquire into the nature of justice and injustice, first as they appear in the State, and secondly in the individual, proceeding from the greater to the lesser and comparing them. (2.368e—369a)

The Republic: An Apology

“The safest general characterization of the European philosophical tradition is th
Henry Avila
Jul 30, 2015 Henry Avila rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Plato's "The Republic", is a great but flawed masterpiece of western literature, yes it makes sense, mostly, some of it. "I am the wisest man in the world because I know one thing, that I know nothing", said the smart man ... Socrates. Plato is writing for Socrates, his friend and teacher. Late teacher, since being forced to commit suicide by the uncomfortable citizens of Athens ( the famous poisoned cup of hemlock), for corrupting the minds of youth. Socrates didn't believe books were as effect ...more
Emily May
My re-reading of this for my university course has led me to the same conclusions I found when I first read it a couple of years back, except this time I am fortunate enough to have understood it better than last time. My conclusions being that Plato, and through him Socrates, was very intelligent, believed he was more intelligent than everyone else (no matter how many times he declared himself unwise) and very much loved to talk. Socrates, in particular, must have been very fond of the sound of ...more
Halfway through now and the ability to see the book as a metaphor for civic and personal moral development becomes difficult. The state Plato describes here is one that is highly prohibitive in almost every aspect. Arts and culture are severely controlled for propaganda purposes. There is a complete inability to view open, transparent government as an option. The guardians must be lied to and deceived constantly if they are to develop correctly. Moreover, to establish what we might call a footin ...more
peiman-mir5 rezakhani
دوستانِ گرانقدر، با وجودِ شناختی که از «افلاطون» به وسیلۀ مطالعه در تاریخ و رویدادهایِ زمانِ او، بدست می آوریم، بدونِ تردید افلاطون موجودی مغرور و مخالفِ دانش و هنر بوده است، و اگر حرفِ درست و مثالِ زیبایی، در این کتاب آمده باشد نیز، از نوشتنِ سخنانِ استادِ بزرگوار « سقراط» بدست آمده است، چراکه « افلاطون»، که با پیشرفتِ دانش و اندیشمندانی چون « دمکریت» مخالف بود و نظریه هایِ علمی مثلِ « هیچ چیز از هیچ حادث نمیشود» و یا نظریۀ « اتمی» دمکریت را شیطانی و مخالفِ دین و مذهب و فسادِ بشر، قلمداد میکرد، ...more
Justin Evans
May 19, 2011 Justin Evans rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: philosophy
Just to be clear, my rating is for the edition of the Republic I read- the Oxford World's Classics text translated by Robin Waterfield. Giving stars to the Republic is so flagrantly stupid that I can't even come up with a suitably stupid analogy. Giving stars to the Mona Lisa? Not even close. Giving stars to Dante? Not the same, because that deserves five stars. The Republic simultaneously deserves five stars, for kick-starting Western philosophy, social science, aesthetics, theology, and politi ...more
I’ve gotten into the habit of dividing up the books I’ve read by whether I read them before or after Plato’s Republic. Before The Republic, reading was a disorganized activity—much the same as wading through a sea of jumbled thoughts and opinions. I had no basis from which to select books, except by how much they appealed to my naïve tastes. But after reading The Republic, it was as if the entire intellectual landscape was put into perspective. Reading became a focused activity, meant to engage ...more
Jason Pettus
Apr 04, 2008 Jason Pettus rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
(Reprinted from the Chicago Center for Literature and Photography []. I am the original author of this essay, as well as the owner of CCLaP; it is not being reprinted here illegally.)

The CCLaP 100: In which I read a hundred so-called "classic" books for the first time, then write reports on whether or not I think they deserve the label

Essay #11: The Republic, by Plato (~360 BC)

The story in a nutshell:
For those who don't know, the last 2,500 years of Western civilization can be rou
peiman-mir5 rezakhani
با وجودِ شناختی که از «افلاطون» به وسیلۀ مطالعه در تاریخ و رویدادهایِ زمانِ او، بدست آوردیم، بدونِ تردید افلاطون موجودی مغرور و بیخرد و مخالفِ دانش و هنر بوده، و اگر دوتا حرفِ درست و مثالِ زیبا، در این کتاب آمده، از نوشتنِ سخنانِ استادِ بزرگوار « سقراط» بدست آمده، چراکه « افلاطون»، آن بیخردِ مذهبی که با پیشرفتِ دانش و اندیشمندانی چون « دمکریت» مخالف بود و نظریه هایِ علمی مثلِ « هیچ چیز از هیچ حادث نمیشود» و یا نظریۀ « اتمی» دمکریت رو شیطانی و مخالفِ دین و مذهب و فسادِ بشر، قلمداد میکرد، نمیتونه ...more
سوفسطایی ها
در یونان باستان، گروهی معلم دوره گرد بودن که فلسفه و وکالت به جوان ها یاد میدادن، به این ها "سوفیست" یا "سوفسطایی" یعنی "حکیم" می گفتن. معروفه که این گروه دو خصوصیت مهم داشتن: اول، شکاکیت در همه چیز. دوم: استفاده از مغالطه برای رسیدن به نتیجه.

معروفه که سقراط و افلاطون علیه این دو خصوصیت سوفسطایی ها موضع گرفتن و نتیجه ی مقابله با شکاکیت، ایجاد فلسفه و نتیجه ی مقابله با مغالطه، ایجاد منطق بود.

افلاطون این طوری توی کتاب های دیگران معرفی شده. مشکل اینجاست که توی کتاب های خودش ابدا ا
Feb 08, 2015 Mark rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: those with a philosophical bent
I finished reading The Republic on my birthday and now am both older and wiser. The Republic is in essence one long argument why a person should lead a just life verses choosing a life of pleasure, riches, ambition, or power. It is deeply concerned with the nature of the human soul and how to prepare one's soul for eternity. Socrates/Plato uses a plethora of logical examples for this argument, although it is the logic of 400 B.C. Greek culture, which seems somewhat fractured to us today. The Rep ...more
Sheyda Heydari Shovir
جمهور افلاطون ده کتابه و انقدر طولانیه که نمیشه یک نظر مشخص و معلوم در مورد کلش داد. شاید بهتر باشه آدم در مورد کتاب بکتابش نظر بده. اما بهرحال،
جمهور رو من بزبان اصلیش نخوندم، ترجمهش بانگلیسیرو خوندم و فکر نمیکنم درست باشه هیچ نظری در مورد نثرش بدم. در موردش بیشتر ازینها حرف زدهند و نمیدونم چی هست که من ادبیاتی بتونم درمورد این کتاب که از امهات فلسفهست اضافه کنم. اما چند چیز که همینطوری بنظرم اومد یکی این بود که این دیالوگ بیشتر از حداقل بقیه دیالوگها دیالوگ نیست و خیلی کم گفتگو درش دیده میشه. س
David Sarkies
Oct 10, 2015 David Sarkies rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: Philosophers & Political Scientists
Recommended to David by: Some Christian Girl at uni.
Shelves: philosophy
Theorising the Perfect State
21 October 2013

Sometimes I wonder if people give this book five stars because it is either a) written by Plato, or b) if you don't give it five stars then you are afraid that people will think that you are some semi-literate mindless cretin whose reading capacity tends to extend little beyond the Harry Potter and Twilight Series. Yes, I realise that I have given it five stars, but I have given it five stars because I actually enjoyed the argument that this book outli
May 13, 2013 L. rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
ها أنا قد قرأت أخيراً 'جمهورية' أفلاطون، ولو طُلب مني أن أُعبِّر عن انطباعي حول جمهوريته بجملة مختصره، سأقول ما سطَّره قلمي في آخر صفحة من الكتاب:-

جمهورية أفلاطون يحكمها فيلسوف 'خيالي'، وسُكَّانها رجال آليين

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تنقسم هذه المحاورة إلا عشرة أجزاء، أو كما اسماها المترجم عشرة كتب، كل كتاب يختص بموضوع معين يرتبط بما سبقه ارتباطاً وثيقاً ومكملاً له بتوسع، وهذه المواضيع يتحاور فيها "سقراط" مع مجموعة من الأشخاص

ما هو العدل؟ وهل الشخص العادل شخص سعيد نتيجة لعدله والظالم تعيس لظ
Ahmad Sharabiani
عنوان: جمهوری افلاطون؛ اثر: افلاطون؛ مترجم: محمدحسن لطفی؛ مشخصات نشر: تهران، ابن سینا، 1353، 10 جلد در یک مجلد چهارده و 549 ص؛ موضوع: نقد و تفسیر جمهوریت، علوم سیاسی کهن

کتاب شامل 10 نمایشنامه به صورت گفتگو میان سقراط و افراد دیگر است و در آن به مسایلی از قبیل عدالت، نوع حکومت و حقیقت پرداخته شده

جمهوری افلاطون ترجمه فواد روحانی در سالهای 1335 و در سال 1348 توسط بنگاه ترجمه و نشر کتاب در 648 ص؛ و توسط انتشارات علمی فرهنگی در سال 1368 و در سال 1379 و چاپ نهم آن در سال 1383، چاپ دهم 1384 و ... و چاپ
thím Tô
Ralph Waldo Emerson đã viết về Plato như sau: “Plato chính là triết học, triết học chính là Plato..." Ý, khoan, bác cho con nói đế một câu này: "... nhưng có lẽ bản dịch tiếng Việt của cuốn Cộng hòa không phải là... triết học lẫn Plato".
Thế thì nó là gì, là gì?!
Nó là tổng hòa tất cả những uất ức của mình trong hơn một tháng, là dấu tích còn sót của 1000 năm Bắc thuộc, thuở ông cha ta bắt buộc phải nắm vững tiếng Hán nếu muốn đọc sách thánh hiền @@ Để đọc xong cuốn sách này, điều bạn cần có khôn
Zahra Taher
يقول أفلاطون:
الحق إن لممارسة الجدل.. تأثيراً فريداً في الناس.. لأنهم كثيراً ما يدخلون دون وعي في مناقشات يتخيلون أنها مجادلات عقلية، مع أنها ليست إلا ثرثرة، وذلك لعجزهم عن أن يدرسوا موضوعهم بتقسيمه تبعاً لفروعه المختلفة ولتعلقهم بالألفاظ في محاولتهم إيقاع محدثهم في التناقض" ما أسهل أن يجد القارئ مثالاً على هذا الكلام من محاورة أفلاطون نفسها فهذا الفيلسوف لديه من المتناقضات والمغالطات الكثير الذي جعل فلسفته محل جدل واسع وكبير، بدءاً من صعوبة التفريق بين آراء أفلاطون وبطل محاوراته سقراط وانتهاءً
Jun 27, 2007 Covert.adrian rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: Those seeking answers, or at least the means to help you find your own.
No book has influenced my life more than Plato's Republic. It admittedly can be a difficult read: it is almost entirely a back and forth conversation between two people, Socrates and Glaucon, discussing the nature of man, the soul, justice, and what the most just society, or Republic, would look like. In this highly utopian account, Socrates expresses little hope in the common man, and instead suggests authoritarian rule, by philosophers, would lead to the most just state. His contempt for democ ...more
أحمد أبازيد Ahmad Abazed
و أفتخر أنّني حاورت أفلاطون أسبوعاً كاملاً !

Plato's The Republic is one of the more widely read works of philosophy of all time. It is a complex work, one that rambles due to the nature of it being a dialogue rather than a pure expository piece, but one with some interesting and applicable ideas within it nonetheless.

The core argument that Plato makes, through using Socrates as the voice of reason, seems to link up to the idea of the creation of a better Republic - hence the title - or a kind of Utopia. He argues that in the end the thing
Feb 04, 2008 Dan rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
I'm not sure why people read this. For those interested in the history of philosophy it's undoubtedly important. For everyone else... meh. A lot of people comment that Plato deals seriously with all the big issues. Well, he brings them up, but never seriously engages with them.
Maybe the problem is that I'm reading this at 25 after spending a couple years seriously reading philosophy. Maybe Popper inoculated me. I might have felt differently if I started reading The Republic with a less critical
4.0 stars. I read this book back in college (20+ years ago) so I have put this on my list of books to re-read in the not too distant future. This is one of those books that I believe everyone should read as it is one of those foundational books on which Western civilization is based.
Farshad Firuzi
Jul 20, 2014 Farshad Firuzi rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
یکی از فوقالعاده ترین کتابهایی که تا بحال خوندم .. گرچه سبک فلسفی کتاب باعث شد تا بخش هایی رو با سختی متوجه بشم اما طریقه استدلال افلاطون واقعا بی نظیره . تووی این کتاب افلاطون درباره عدالت صحبت میکنه .. در ابتدا افلاطون شروع به ساختن یه مدینه فاضله میکنه و با ذکر جزئیات وظیفه هر عضو این جامعه رو بررسی میکنه .. بعد از این برای شناخت مفهموم عدالت از کل به جزء برمیگرده .. مثال مشهور غار رو بیان میکنه و بعد از اون انواع حکومت رو از تیموکراسی و الیگارشی و دموکراسی و دیکتاتوری مطرح میکنه .. پس ازین ه ...more
Jul 20, 2007 aisha rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
i have read plato's republic...three times.

and i've actually enjoyed every time, although i hadn't thought i would each round.

i love greek writing, and though aristotle and thucydides are my favorite, plato is a close second (third?).

even if you disagree with the ideas he presents, the ideas are fascinating to discuss. i actually kind of think it is way more fun to discuss when someone contradicts an idea or assumption made.

the dialectic style is one of my favorite aspects of the novel. as a fan
Diamond Cowboy
Nov 07, 2015 Diamond Cowboy rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
This book was presented as a dialogue between Cocrates and the author as well as three other consorts. They are discussing such matters as "What is goodness? and what is knowledge?"
It is a good read yet not an easy one. It requires a lot of thought and introspection.
Enjoy and Be Blessed.
Hussain Ali
Feb 01, 2016 Hussain Ali rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
افلاطون.. أتعب الذي بعده.
W.T. Shad
Mar 01, 2016 W.T. Shad rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Feeling damn well outgunned when it comes to reviewing old Plato.

"Every form of government fails in excess of its defining principle." -Or something of that nature, said Plato. That one alway stuck with me.

Steven Peterson
Nov 19, 2009 Steven Peterson rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
The Cornford translation of Plato is still one of the standards, even though other translations might well be better in this age. It is also the version that I used as an undergraduate student at Bradley University in my Political Philosophy class! To get to the point: Socrates' greatest student was Plato. In "The Republic," Plato, through the voice of Socrates, provided the keenest metaphor to describe his understanding of the problem cod defining "reality." His allegory of the cave serves as t ...more
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Plato is a Classical Greek philosopher, mathematician, student of Socrates, writer of philosophical dialogues, and founder of the Academy in Athens, the first institution of higher learning in the Western world. Along with his mentor, Socrates, and his student, Aristotle, Plato helped to lay the foundations of Western philosophy and science.

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