Someday This Pain Will Be Useful to You
It’s time for eighteen-year-old James Sveck to begin his freshman year at Brown. Instead, he’s surfing the real estate listings, searching for a sanctuary—a nice farmhouse in Kansas, perhaps. Although James lives in twenty-first-century Manhattan, he’s more at home in the faraway worlds of Eric Rohmer or Anthony Trollope—or his favorite writer, the obscure and tragic Dento...more
Hardcover, 240 pages
Published
September 18th 2007
by Farrar, Straus and Giroux (BYR)
(first published May 9th 2007)
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E TU SEI JAMES, O L’ADULTO CATTIVO E ROMPIBALLE CHE EGLI UN GIORNO POTREBBE DIVENTARE?
Domanda 1: Quante volte nella tua vita ti sei sentito/a dire: “Ma perché non esci a giocare coi tuoi amichetti?”, “Ma perché stai sempre solo/a?”, “Alla tua età bisogna uscire, farsi delle amicizie, godere della giovinezza?”? E quante vo...more
E TU SEI JAMES, O L’ADULTO CATTIVO E ROMPIBALLE CHE EGLI UN GIORNO POTREBBE DIVENTARE?
Domanda 1: Quante volte nella tua vita ti sei sentito/a dire: “Ma perché non esci a giocare coi tuoi amichetti?”, “Ma perché stai sempre solo/a?”, “Alla tua età bisogna uscire, farsi delle amicizie, godere della giovinezza?”? E quante vo...more
4-4.5 stars if reviewed as an adult title.
5 stars if considered a YA title.
I recently watched the film version of The City of Your Final Destination and liked it enough to pick up my copy of this book, by the same author, which has been gathering dust here for a couple months. For whatever reasons, the description on the cover just never seemed compelling enough to pursue the content, and while I could kick myself for putting it off, I find that I’ve now read it at the right time, and like so ma...more
Decir que ha sido una grata sorpresa es quedarse corto. Muy corto. El personaje de James es un gamberro sofisticado, un misántropo high level, un Holden Caulfield que sabe navegar por Internet y entender los entresijos de la familia disfuncional en la que le ha tocado vivir. Pero que, a diferencia de su homólogo salingeriano, no tiene la posibilidad de la huída.
A través de esos días muertos del verano neoyorquino vamos desgranando sus miedos, su identidad, su rechazo hacia un mundo del que teme...more
A través de esos días muertos del verano neoyorquino vamos desgranando sus miedos, su identidad, su rechazo hacia un mundo del que teme...more
You know, this book is kind of one of the ones that you're more excited about reading than you are after actually having read it. James is one of the most frustrating protagonists ever. He hates everything. His peers, his parents, his life, college(he hates Stanford more than Brown, by the way), his life...did I already mention that? Well, he hates it double.
In fact, one of the only things he doesn't hate is his boss, John, who he has a crush on. Well, no, of course he doesn't say or even acknow...more
In fact, one of the only things he doesn't hate is his boss, John, who he has a crush on. Well, no, of course he doesn't say or even acknow...more
Mi piacciono i diciottenni "disturbati".
Fa un po' sorridere James, il simpatico diciottenne protagonista, gli si muove attorno una sorta di famiglia allargata, che si potrebbe eufemisticamente descrivere come "una gabbia di matti". Muoversi nelle maglie di questi rapporti così bizzarri, sembra essere la cosa più naturale del mondo e James lo fa con una massiccia dose di ironia inquieta e malinconica e con tanta delicatezza, tanta quanta ne sa esprimere il suo personaggio.
Insomma mi sembra che...more
Fa un po' sorridere James, il simpatico diciottenne protagonista, gli si muove attorno una sorta di famiglia allargata, che si potrebbe eufemisticamente descrivere come "una gabbia di matti". Muoversi nelle maglie di questi rapporti così bizzarri, sembra essere la cosa più naturale del mondo e James lo fa con una massiccia dose di ironia inquieta e malinconica e con tanta delicatezza, tanta quanta ne sa esprimere il suo personaggio.
Insomma mi sembra che...more
Leggere "Un giorno questo dolore ti sarà utile" ed ascoltare la (breve) storia di James è stato come tuffarsi nel più recente passato e leggere le proprie memorie da principiante adolescente.
Nessuna rivelazione, nessuna originalità, ma se spesso tali mancanze confluiscono nella banalità, questa volta mi hanno fatto sentire a casa: Peter Cameron ha la capacità della semplicità e dell'essenzialità. Un fiume in piena di sfoghi e sensazioni che se non hanno il dono della genialità, hanno senz'altro...more
Nessuna rivelazione, nessuna originalità, ma se spesso tali mancanze confluiscono nella banalità, questa volta mi hanno fatto sentire a casa: Peter Cameron ha la capacità della semplicità e dell'essenzialità. Un fiume in piena di sfoghi e sensazioni che se non hanno il dono della genialità, hanno senz'altro...more
such a lovely book, and such a quirky and interesting look at the pain of adolescence, which is the same as the pain of being human except less covered by layers of fake adaptation (as the book itself points out at some point). james, the protagonist narrator, is barely more adjusted to living in the-world-as-is than christopher of
the curious incident of the dog in the night-time
, but the novel deftly and lovingly avoids pathologizing his difference. in fact, the only thing we know for sure ab...more
Nov 06, 2012
Jennifer Wardrip
rated it
5 of 5 stars
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Reviewed by JodiG. for TeensReadToo.com
James Svek doesn't really fit in. He isn't interested in the same things as other eighteen-year-old guys, doesn't even like people his age, and even keeps his family at a distance.
Nobody could blame James for being detached from his family. His father is a bit self-absorbed and seems to feel obligated to spend the little time he does with James. James' mother owns an art gallery and has just returned early from her honeymoon. Her third marriage has ended a...more
James Svek doesn't really fit in. He isn't interested in the same things as other eighteen-year-old guys, doesn't even like people his age, and even keeps his family at a distance.
Nobody could blame James for being detached from his family. His father is a bit self-absorbed and seems to feel obligated to spend the little time he does with James. James' mother owns an art gallery and has just returned early from her honeymoon. Her third marriage has ended a...more
Everyone compares this one to Catcher in the Rye, which is interesting to me because I haven’t read Catcher, and I think I would hate it, and yet I completely see why the two books are compared, and I loved Someday This Pain…
James has too many advantages to have the problems that he has. His family has money, an apartment in Manhattan, a part time job at his mother’s gallery, and he’s been accepted to Brown for next year (though not Harvard, Yale, or Columbia). His parents are divorced (though w...more
James has too many advantages to have the problems that he has. His family has money, an apartment in Manhattan, a part time job at his mother’s gallery, and he’s been accepted to Brown for next year (though not Harvard, Yale, or Columbia). His parents are divorced (though w...more
This is a lovely book. The only thing that bothers me is that James is not concerned about money beyond how he would afford a house in the Midwest; it's hard for me to relate to someone so well set up.
But that allows us to focus on what makes him an interesting character (in my opinion, at least). He's so self-aware that he's naive at times--his internal life rich, his external life vacant. I adore him, want to talk him through some of his problems, realizing that I wouldn't get along with him...more
But that allows us to focus on what makes him an interesting character (in my opinion, at least). He's so self-aware that he's naive at times--his internal life rich, his external life vacant. I adore him, want to talk him through some of his problems, realizing that I wouldn't get along with him...more
Periodically, I read reviews from the New York Times book list and pick out likely candidates. The reviews are often the best thing about the book, though, so I'd recommend the review in this case. This is a well-written book - I finished it and I do not suffer through books that I find un-readable. But I felt it would have improved the book if the main character had killed himself or if I had been able to beat him up. I don't think wealthy kids are any less likable or have any fewer problems, b...more
I loved the title, but the story was disappointing. Or maybe it was the writing style I didn't like. Cameron's novel feels like a long, drawn-out short story. There are a few insightful moments, but not enough. What bothers me most are the wasted words, which, if pulled out and transfered to a blank document, would probably fill about twenty needless pages.
Jan 31, 2008
Edward
rated it
4 of 5 stars
Recommends it for:
Really Smart and Moody Teens and the Adults who wish they were teens like James.
Shelves:
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Peter Cameron’s Someday This Pain Will Be Useful To You is being touted by some critics as a modern Catcher In The Rye, which in, and of itself, is heady praise, but sells the book short. This book is a pitch perfect literary gem, with a comic precocious hero, James Sveck who is better read than most adults twice his age (this one included). The story spans the James’s summer before admission to Brown University, an event which he is loath to contemplate, and is distracting himself from by house...more
Feb 19, 2008
Jessica
rated it
3 of 5 stars
Recommends it for:
precocious disaffected teenagers; immature disaffected adults
Recommended to Jessica by:
ginnie
So far -- a few pages in -- I am not really enjoying this, however (a) it's got a great title; (b) Ginnie praised it highly; (c) I waited forever to get it from the library and (d) it's not difficult reading, so I'll persevere a bit longer, and see....
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HAH! This got really good: my first laugh-out-loud laugh was on page 33, and from there on out I was pretty much delighted with this quick YA read, though the ending didn't feel satisfying, and just in general I felt the last quarter-or-so of...more
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HAH! This got really good: my first laugh-out-loud laugh was on page 33, and from there on out I was pretty much delighted with this quick YA read, though the ending didn't feel satisfying, and just in general I felt the last quarter-or-so of...more
The first half of this book drove me kind of insane-it got (throughout the book, but especially in the first half) very Poor Little Rich Boy, the narrative voice was really, really hard to take ( I hope if someone does talk that way, out loud, I do not meet this person. No one should talk in the tone of a 20-year-old dude talking about Nietzsche or Joyce all the time), and the characters are the kind of New Yorkers that make me want to move back to California as soon as possible. But I found the...more
James is a character that kept me reading. Cameron knows how to twist and turn a good tale about an adolescent with such glorious details. James' relationship with his grandmother was so profound, especially when he goes to see her at the end of the book and he fixes her a drink and turns on a record she will like and he feels like she is not judging him. The other members of his family were so knowable. The time with the therapist felt so typical of a teenager who was only there since his paren...more
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This novel displays a unique adolescent voice in the narrator, James Sveck. I'm not sure I will ever understand his particular type of angst since his actions often seemed irrational to an extreme combined with an inexplicable predilection for misanthropy. The difficulties of teenage life living with a divorced mother are ratcheted up almost to the breaking point. However, his close relationship with his grandmother was an anchor both for the narrator and the reader. Overall the book was more th...more
This book is odd, but nonetheless intriguing. Take 1 NYC teenager who keeps to himself, works at his mother's art gallery and likes to surf the internet looking for houses in the Midwest. I guess I found the main character intriguing because he seemed so opposite of myself. He is reluctant to go to college and identifies with people much older more. On the other hand, his life in NYC with therapists and an odd parent dynamic seems really unusual to me. The book held my attention and was a quick...more
Nov 08, 2007
Sarah
rated it
5 of 5 stars
Recommends it for:
people who liked "speak," "hard love," "mike harte was here," and "animal dreams"
Shelves:
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I just finished this book and I'm still worried about James. I want to put my arms around him. This book is alternately hilarious and haunting. Peter Cameron does an excellent job of conveying the agony and mundaneness of loneliness and unnamed depression. That said, this is not a depressing book; I don't read depressing books. I had to stop reading it while my students did independent work because I would repeatedly burst out laughing. This book is poignant, and it makes you want to read it aga...more
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I was recommended this book by Margo Rabb when she visited our library for a bookclub book:Cures for Heartbreak). It was a great and very quick read. The story follows the main character in his summer of freedom between high school and his first semester of college. Except he doesn't want to go to college. Primarily because he doesn't want to be around a bunch of people his age. He finds them dull, dreary, and uninteresting. In this transitional summer - on the cusp of adulthood - he ponders his...more
James Sveck is not happy. And that's really the least of his worries. After realizing he felt separate, alone as in not a part of this species, life took a bad turn for James.
It all came to a head with the whole America Classroom debacle. He doesn't like to think about it. He doesn't want to talk about it. And so for weeks he plays avoidance games, silence games, power games---pretty much any and every game---with his therapist.
His parents are worried. His sister is worried. James is just annoye...more
It all came to a head with the whole America Classroom debacle. He doesn't like to think about it. He doesn't want to talk about it. And so for weeks he plays avoidance games, silence games, power games---pretty much any and every game---with his therapist.
His parents are worried. His sister is worried. James is just annoye...more
James Sveck doesn't like people his own age. He has just graduated high school, but instead of listening to his parents and going to Brown University, he would rather buy an old house in the middle of Kansas. Like most eighteen-year-olds, James is incredibly self-involved, but somehow his precociousness makes him endearing as well. Although every other book jacket on the planet claims to have found the modern-day successor to Holden Caulfield, James Sveck is the closest we've come across so far....more
This book is hard to review because I both liked and disliked it at the same time. The writing style wasn't the problem with me, it was James and his way of thinking of things. I guess that I should really be looking at it as a boy who doesn't know what he wants and is confused with his life, but still his actions really just got to me. Not only twisting feelings around for those close to him, he ends up saying things and doing things that really just don't add up to me. I think the reason why I...more
Quando leggo libri di questo tipo, mi perdo spesso in una fantasticheria: mettere in una stanza James di "Questo dolore ti sarà utile" (mo' speriamo, ci aggiungerei io), Charlie di "Ragazzo da parete", Holden de "Il giovane Holden" e tutti gli altri protagonisti dei romanzi di formazione più o meno tormentati scritti finora, poi sbirciare dal buco della serratura e vedere se almeno fra loro riescono a capirsi.
Nello specifico, James ha diciotto anni, ama i musei e odia le persone. Attraversa un...more
Nello specifico, James ha diciotto anni, ama i musei e odia le persone. Attraversa un...more
Se non avessi già amato Holden sarebbero state sicuramente cinque, le stellette. Purtroppo James per me è e resterà sempre e solo una "brutta copia". Non male come personaggio eh, non sto qui a negarlo, ma il cacciatore nella segale me lo sarei anche sposato alla fine del libro, con questo non ci avrei preso neanche un caffè, magari non avrebbe voluto lui poi, visto che è orso.
D'altronde non era proprio facile confrontarsi con un genio della letteratura come Salinger, affrontandolo nel suo terr...more
D'altronde non era proprio facile confrontarsi con un genio della letteratura come Salinger, affrontandolo nel suo terr...more
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Peter Cameron (b. 1959) is an award-winning novelist and short story writer. Born in Pompton Plains, New Jersey, he moved to New York City after graduating college in 1982. Cameron began publishing stories in the New Yorker one year later. His numerous award-winning storie...more
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“What if she was meant to be, or could have been, someone important in my life? I think that's what scares me: the randomness of everything. That the people who could be important to you might just pass you by. Or you pass them by. How do you know...I felt that by walking away I was abandoning [them], that I spent my entire life, day after day, abandoning people.”
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Io sono una Nanette tendente al James (tre B e due C)."
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