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The Sagan Diary (Old Man's War #2.5)

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Fans of John Scalzi's "Old Man" universe, prepare yourselves: there's a long new story in that universe, told from the point of view of one of the series' most intriguing characters. And for the first time, fans can become part of the universe themselves. Subterranean Press is proud to announce The Sagan Diary, a long novelette that for the first time looks at the worlds o ...more
Hardcover, Signed edition, 100 pages
Published February 1st 2007 by Subterranean (first published January 1st 2007)
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seak
Sep 25, 2013 seak rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: audio, dnf, 2013
Chapter 1: Poop

Poop is the smelliest breath of life. We are all full of poop. I poop, you poop, everyone poops. Poop surrounds us and is inside of us. Poop allows us to live and to survive. Poop allows us to love and to hate. Without poop, we have nothing. We would probably explode.

If poop allows us to survive and to live then do we not owe our whole being to the smelliness that is poop? Do we not have hope for a better life because we can poop? Poop is what allows our society to function. Poop
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Debbie Hoad
Apr 17, 2013 Debbie Hoad rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
"Words fail me. There is a disconnect between my mind and my words; between what I think and what I say. Not a disconnect in intent, but in execution. Between the flower of thought and the fruit of the mouth. Between the initiation and the completion."

And so it goes. On and on and on until you want to give her a slap and say, 'snap out of it!' Endless, angsty, self-important navel-gazing - a whole novella delivered like bad poetry. There's no story, just musings on life. I'm pretty sure that if
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Chris
Nov 16, 2015 Chris rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: audiobook
Eh. Poetic and introspective, but not really all that interesting.
The Pirate Ghost (Formerly known as the Curmudgeon)
The personal thoughts of Jane Sagan, a warrior of the future.

This is set in the same universe as Old Man's War. It is not a spoiler, though it is end of the Jane Sagan story thread. It's told in first person by Jane Sagan as her diary entries and collected thoughts on life, death, fear, love and sex.

For those who liked the heavy action in John Scalzi's book, this may not be as interesting to you since it's purely philosophical in nature. It's short and I found it wonderfully reflective. I think
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February Four
Nov 24, 2009 February Four rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
I did not finish this book.

I normally like Scalzi--I devoured the entire Old Man's War series (still waiting to get a copy of Zoe's Tale, but I don't expect to be disappointed) and I liked two of his other books, too. However, I did not get past the first few pages of the Sagan Diary. Heaven help me if I know why--it felt like fanfiction, and not quite the good kind. That's the closest I can get to explaining why I didn't enjoy it. I didn't expect the format, and there was no hook to tell me why
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Jim
The book begins with a preface from Lieutenant Gretchen Schafer, an analyst involved in reviewing and transcribing BrainPal memories from Special Forces soldiers like Sagan. Written as a letter of protest, Schafer complains that “what we have to work with are data-poor bits in which Lt. Sagan thinks about what appears to be a romantic partner of some sort…” She describes the files as “of some anthropological interest … but for our purposes these files are near useless.”

I read this as a nicely-do
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Natalie
Mar 23, 2011 Natalie rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: sci-fi, poetry
Imagine a heroic warrior about to die. She knows death is coming for her and so do her contemporaries.

A bard sings the song of her life commemorating her activities, exaggerating her prowess in battle, her kill-count, her prodigious ability to drink and fornicate when she celebrates her victories.

Her deeds of bravery are trotted out for all to exclaim over. Her family history is recited so all will know who she came from and who she is leaving behind. Her ancestors and successors will be marke
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Kat  Hooper
Aug 07, 2013 Kat Hooper rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: audiobook
The Sagan Diary was a prize and an experiment. As John Scalzi explains in the introduction, this novelette was written for Bill Schafer, editor of Subterranean Press, who won it in a charity auction. Schafer wanted a story set in Scalzi’s popular OLD MAN’S WAR universe. Scalzi wanted to challenge himself, so he decided to attempt a woman’s internal monologue. Fans will immediately realize from the title of the book that the woman is Captain Jane Sagan, a cyborg who features prominently in OLD MA ...more
Marc Weidenbaum
This book serves several purposes. It provides insight into the minds of the ubercharged military combatants who fill the pages of Scalzi's excellent novel Old Man's War, a lengthy riff on The Forever War and Starship Troopers. It answers the question as to whether for all the militance of that book and its various other parallel texts, so much of which is about action, Scalzi has a take on interior life (the answer is yes — this book is all interior). It confirms for any naysayers that the reso ...more
Ivan
In this short novel Scalzi tries to poetical and fails miserably.I struggled with ever page and I only bothered to finish because it was only around 100 pages long.

I still love the series and I will continue it with same enthusiasm and pretend this book never happened.
Peter Simko
Mar 25, 2013 Peter Simko rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
After I was done with The Ghost Brigades I wanted to read The Last Colony right away, but then I just realized that there's one more book between the two of those. As I didn't have too many options, I decided to ask John Scalzi on twitter if it was necessary to read The Sagan Diary before I start TLC. His answer was: "No, but it gives extra insight into Jane if you do." As I'm not really a fan of ebooks, and I didn't want to wait 1-2 weeks to get my hands on a physical copy I decided to get it a ...more
Shara
Dec 21, 2011 Shara rated it it was amazing
I didn't even know about this book until John Scalzi happened to mention it on his blog, and once I saw it on Subterranean's Website, I knew I must have it. It's an expensive book for as small as it is, but it's a must-have for any fan of the Old Man's War series, and given the fact it focuses solely on Jane Sagan, it's not a book I could pass up.[return][return]It's a short book, and it's not so much a complete story as it is a character study. This book MUST be read after The Ghost Brigades, b ...more
Richard Buro
The short version first . . .

If you follow my reviews, you know how I feel about John Scalzi’s work – basically he is one of the best military sci-fi authors currently writing. The Sagan Diary is the result of an agreement between the author and a publisher made during a charity event in remembrance of John Michael Ford, a recognized writer in the Star Trek franchise. The publisher agreed to make a donation to the charity if Mr. Scalzi would write a short story set in his “Old Man’s War” univ
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Nariman
مجموعهٔ چند داستان کوتاهست از دیدگاه جِین. در قالب حدیث نفس بحثهایی رو با خودش مرور میکنه که تعدادیشون تا حدی جنبهٔ فلسفی دارن.

حس شاعرانهٔ خاصی داشت، خصوصا اون متنی که دربارهٔ کشتن و مرگ بود. واقعا تصور اینکه چنین متنی، با این نثر شاعرانه و روان به این سرعت نوشته شده باشه، برام غیرممکنه. این بخش رو میتونم بگم روی نوشته داشتم پرواز میکردم به عوض اینکه واقعا بخونمش

یکی از ویژگیهای جالب اسکالزی اینه که مدل ذهنی طرفین ماجرا رو به تفصیل توضیح میده و سعی میکنه تا همگی تا حد امکان خاکستری باشن. هیچ استد
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Inhibitor Medichine
Terrific. I really feel like this should've been included at the end of The Ghost Brigades. It closes off a lot of plot lines opened previously, and gives a great internal look at the character of Jane Sagan, and the differences between her and 'Realborn'.


“I am not Death. I am killing; I am the verb, I am the action, I am the performance. I am the movement that cuts the spine; I am the mass which pulps the brain. I am the headsnap ejecting consciousness into the air.
I am not Death but she follow
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Kaethe
Aug 29, 2015 Kaethe rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: format-ebooks, scifi
September 1, 2014

I hadn't read this one before; it really gives a different view of Jane Sagan. And also, it adds to the series in a way that interstitial stories don't always. Too emotional a read, though, for me to love it completely.

Personal copy
David
Dec 13, 2014 David rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: supersoldiers who write diaries
A short story in the Old Man's War universe, originally a freebie on Audible. Jane Sagan, the genetically engineered supersoldier who we first met in Old Man's War, is the narrator of The Sagan Diary, and she refers to events in that book, so it won't make a lot of sense unless you've read OMW.

Basically, this was a literary experiment by John Scalzi, trying to write from a female POV - albeit not a normal woman. Jane is chronologically only nine years old, but she was born "adult" and is now sor
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David
Sep 26, 2011 David rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: science-fiction
Scalzi has three strengths: Fun, breezy plots. Witty Dialogue. Lovable characters. This story is missing the first two. There's very little plot. Very little actual dialogue. It's a series of introspective musings from the mind of Jane Sagan, one of the main characters of the Old Man's War universe, on the eve of her death and rebirth.

This book is aimed at the fan of Old Man's War who is really itching to get more into the mind and perspective of Jane Sagan. Personally, I think the trilogy (Old
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Rebecca
Dec 09, 2012 Rebecca rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: science-fiction
This is a short piece, I'm guessing novella length. (I read it as part of a collection of Scalzi's Subterranean Press works, and wasn't paying that much attention to length.) The backstory is that it was written in memorial to someone, which makes it feel churlish to complain, but I'm going to anyway.

Don't bother reading this unless you're so desperately in love with the OMW universe that you're completely pining away. Even then, it's not really worth the effort. We learn nothing particularly ne
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Jay Daze
Sep 16, 2009 Jay Daze rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: sf, audio-book
Who knew that Special Forces soldiers took creative writing classes? I give Scalzi props for trying something completely different for this short monolgue from Janet Sagan, one of the created soliders from his 'Old Man's War' universe, but the experiment failed for me. I never believed the voice that he created for Sagan. She sounds waaaay to much like an artsy college student in a writing workshop and nothing like a near telepathic child-solider (she has the body of an adult but is chronologica ...more
Ron
Jan 10, 2012 Ron rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
A curious book. Short, barely more than a short story--apparently a stream of conscious involving a character known from other Old Man's War books by Scalzi. Though this book has almost nothing to do with those other stories, I'm not sure someone who hasn't read.

I'm not sure what to make of it. Scalzi explains the circumstances of its writing in the Afterword, but that is little help making sense of the story itself.

I suppose some will find it to be riveting introspection. I miss Scalzi's chara
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Drew Kerlee
It was fine. Different from all the others in the series, being 100 pages and a number 2.5 book number. I hope the next one has more... Stuff like the first ones.
Hana C
Aug 28, 2013 Hana C rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: science-fiction
The Sagan Diary is a short story set in the Old Man's War universe. It is first person from the perspective of the character Jane Sagan, and contains some illustrations. There is not really a story, but some of the events of the first novel are seen through the filter of Jan's thoughts. However, in the end I was somewhat disappointed, as I felt there was really nothing new to be discovered. The stream of consciousness writing, which jumps from subject to subject was also no very entertaining. Ev ...more
AndrewP
This was available as a free audio download from John Scalzi's website. It's not a professional audio book, but read by some of John Scalzi's friends. Still, the quality is very good. Having read the first 4 books in the Old Mans War series I felt compelled to read follow up with this.

This is written as a series of journal entries and reminiscences by Jane Sagan. It's more her thoughts on her existence and life than anything to do with the other books. As such, it's more of a philosophical outta
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Csaba Kota
Oct 08, 2015 Csaba Kota rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Musings of Jane Sagan on different topics, aspects of her life. An interesting addition to the universe of the "Old Mans War". ...more
Norm Davis
Jan 03, 2016 Norm Davis rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: Old Man's War addicts only.
Recommended to Norm by: John's previous work.
The Sagan Diary by John Scalzi

I feel a little defensive giving only 3 stars after hearing John claim that he thought it was one of his best pieces of work. It wasn't.

Then, looking at the reviews I feel like I'm the odd man out as the reviews appear to be, either one star, I hate it, or 5 stars I'm slobbering on myself over it. Me, It wasn't ringing any bells but it wasn't putting me to sleep either.

Anyway, it is not even close to John's best writing. Sorry John.

Jane as a book character would b
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Ray Campbell
Aug 08, 2015 Ray Campbell rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: read-2015
Scalzi's Old Man's War series is excellent and of all his characters, Jane Sagan stands out. So, I was excited to read this short work. Apparently, when soldiers are decommissioned in this world, there memories are harvested. The idea is that these memories might hold more accurate information regarding assignments than a conscience soldier might share. The disappointment in Jane's memories is that she has figured out how to mask her memories of combat engagement with memories of her love for Jo ...more
Sam Bissell
Jan 19, 2015 Sam Bissell rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
This novella is for serious (s-e-r-i-o-u-s) Old Man's War fans because of its sheer nature of getting inside the mind of one of the CDF's greatest soldiers. If you aren't familiar with the Old Man's War series, this treatise will probably be found to be over-the-top in CDF (Colonial Defense Forces) jargon and explanations.
If you ARE that serious fan, I highly recommend this novella. It is a VERY thorough description narrated by Jane Sagan, or more appropriately....told through a transcription gi
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Liana
Aug 11, 2014 Liana rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Rating: 2.5

Plot: When Jane Sagan retired from the Special Forces, she had to relinquish her BrainPal. A department within the Colonial Defense Force transcribed some portions of her recorded "thoughts."

Thoughts: Scalzi apparently wrote this short story as part of a fundraiser. It was somewhat interesting, I suppose, to get a different point of view about some of the events already recounted in "The Ghost Brigades" (and quite possibly "Old Man's War," although it's been so long since I've read th
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Fred Kontur
This novella (the Amazon description said it was the equivalent of 100 pages, but it felt more like 50 pages to me) can definitely be accused of navel-gazing, but after a bit of eye-rolling on my part I actually enjoyed it. Like "Questions for a Soldier", the previous short story in the Old Man's War series, this isn't a story at all. It doesn't have any plot of which to speak and if you are not familiar with the events in the first two novels, it won't make much sense at all. In this case, it's ...more
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