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Time and Chance (Henry II & Eleanor of Aquitaine #2)
by
Sharon Kay Penman (Goodreads Author)
In When Christ and His Saints Slept, acclaimed historical novelist Sharon Kay Penman portrayed all the deceit, danger, and drama of Henry II’s ascension to the throne. Now, in Time and Chance, she continues the ever-more-captivating tale.
It was medieval England’s immortal marriage—Eleanor of Aquitaine and Henry II, bound by passion and ambition, certain to leave a legacy...more
Paperback, 544 pages
Published
February 4th 2003
by Ballantine Books
(first published 2002)
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TIME AND CHANCE picks up where WHEN CHRIST AND HIS SAINTS SLEPT off. In the second novel, we follow Henry II who was but a boy as his mother, Maude, fought for the throne. In the end, Maude and her opponent tired each other out for almost twenty years, agreeing to leave the throne to her son. Henry's rise looked promising as he had a distinguished battle record and married the beautiful and clever Eleanor of Aquitaine, making him the wealthiest man in Europe.
But, Henry's future rule proved to no...more
But, Henry's future rule proved to no...more
The second novel in her trilogy about Henry II and Eleanor of Aquitaine, Time and Chance covers the period of the middle years of Henry� s reign, up to and including the notorious murder of Thomas Beckett, Archbishop of Canterbury. That, along with the deteriorating marriage to Eleanor are the twin foci of the book; given the tumultuous events of Henry� s reign, who, as well as being the ruler of England, controlled more land in France the King of France (although Henry was nominally a vassal of...more
Time and Chance, Love and Hate, Friends and Enemies, Lovers and Strangers any of these could well be the title for Sharon Kay Penman's second installment of the saga of Henry II and Eleanor of Aquitane. Penman transports the reader to the years of 1156 to 1171. During this time we witness Henry's growth from a young daring king to a seasoned middle age king who is politically savvy.
As Henry grows he wrestles with issues of kingship and humanity. Henry journeys through Wales, England and France i...more
As Henry grows he wrestles with issues of kingship and humanity. Henry journeys through Wales, England and France i...more
I'm not sure how or why, but I feel like SKP has gone off the rails somewhat, because this book and its sequels The Devil's Brood and Lionheart do not live up to her earlier work. It seems to me like the books are becoming more a catalogue of events and losing their emphasis on drama and character development. There are battles galore but none of them even approach the action, excitement, and pathos of how she describes the battles of Barnet and Tewkesbury in The Sunne in Splendor, or the battle...more
It’s greatly recommended - no actually you SHOULD read When Christ and his Saints Slept. Not only does it give you the background, an introduction to some characters that are featured in this book, and a lot of history, Time and Chance is a continuation of previously mentioned novel.
There’s just something about Penman’s words that weaves the entire story into one very long epic movie like book. Everything is so well written, and descriptions are spot on and accurate. There are a lot of characte...more
There’s just something about Penman’s words that weaves the entire story into one very long epic movie like book. Everything is so well written, and descriptions are spot on and accurate. There are a lot of characte...more
Several months after the first one in the series, I finished this one. I picked it up right after I finished the first one, got about 50-100 pages in, and then put it down for a long stretch. It had a slow start, but I'm glad I picked it back up because that was right about where it got good.
This book again covers about 18 years -- 1153 - 1171 or thereabouts, which is an interesting stopping point because it means that the major rebellion of Henry's sons looks like it's going to be set up to be...more
This book again covers about 18 years -- 1153 - 1171 or thereabouts, which is an interesting stopping point because it means that the major rebellion of Henry's sons looks like it's going to be set up to be...more
The work of Sharon Kay Penman has long been recommended to me and I finally had the opportunity to read one of her books. At first I was concerned that starting in the middle of a trilogy would be difficult, but partly because the novels are based on history - that of the tempestuous and world-changing relationship of Henry II and Eleanor of Aquitane - and the fact that they are sublimely written, this was no task. On the contrary, immersing my self in this fiery world, where religion, relations...more
Time and Chance is the second book in what was to be a trilogy of the Angevins. I see there's a fourth book out now. Time and Chance concentrates on the reign of Henry II and his remarkable wife Eleanor of Aquitaine. Sharon Kay Penman's detailed research makes her novels a delight to read. She manages to paint a clear picture of a time long past populated by vivid characters.
Henry II was an intelligent and thoughtful ruler. He managed to outwit many enemies and earned the respect of his follower...more
Henry II was an intelligent and thoughtful ruler. He managed to outwit many enemies and earned the respect of his follower...more
Apr 21, 2008
Lisa
rated it
3 of 5 stars
Recommends it for:
Nerds like me who are obsessed with medieval England & Wales
Hard to really review this one, as I had so little time to read that I spent like 3 months trying to get through it, while only reading about 10 minutes a day. So I never really got into the feel of it or got attached to the characters. They just didn't seem as real to me as in some of her other books and I'm not sure if it was my reading schedule or the way it was written....All together, not one of her better ones in my opinion.
The story of Henry II and Eleanor of Aquitaine continues in this second book of a trilogy. Once again it is well-written, well-researched and paced as Henry assumes the throne of England and his marriage to Eleanor, a marriage that shocked 12th century Europe, begins to unravel.
Ranulf's story continues and becomes more interesting as he makes Wales his home and his loyalties are torn.
The well-known story of Becket, the Archbishop of Canterbury is told in an exceptional manner. Known for the Pete...more
Ranulf's story continues and becomes more interesting as he makes Wales his home and his loyalties are torn.
The well-known story of Becket, the Archbishop of Canterbury is told in an exceptional manner. Known for the Pete...more
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This is another great book! While I knew the general events during this time period, I didn't know more specific events. Now I want to read Welsh history and more about the Aquitaine! I also want to learn more about William Marshal (I've visited a castle that he once owned). And this is why I read historical fiction - to help me find the gaps so I can learn more.
As I read this and learned more about the conflict between Henry II and Thomas Beckett, I thought that the Catholic Church really hasn'...more
As I read this and learned more about the conflict between Henry II and Thomas Beckett, I thought that the Catholic Church really hasn'...more
Apr 12, 2011
Christie
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Happy to find another historic fiction writer with a sizable anthology. It's no Dorothy Dunette work of art, but it was engaging, entertaining, and kept me up late a few nights. Henry II is a historic figure I don't know much about, and I became really intrigued by the relationship between him and his wife, Eleanor of Aquitane. These people never stayed in one place for more than a month or so! Always going from territory to territory, putting down unruly lords, taking over lands, feuding with t...more
The events of this second novel in a planned trilogy (after When Christ and His Saints Slept) center on the years 1156-71, when England was ruled by Henry II. His queen, Eleanor of Aquitaine, an uncommon woman for her era, is as strong-willed and intelligent as her husband. For many years, they share a passionate marriage, which produces several children--two of whom, Richard and John, go on to become powerful monarchs in their own right. Conflict arises when Henry names Thomas Becket, his close...more
This book continues the story of Henry II and Eleanor of Aquitaine that began in When Christ and His Saints Slept, only with more Eleanor, for which I was very grateful. She's a fantastically interesting character, and, whether you think she's actually a good person or not, she's wonderfully fun to read about. So far, she's Penman's best character and her relationship with Henry II (and reaction to Rosamund Clifford) was wonderfully well done.
For once in a trilogy, the middle book is the one th...more
For once in a trilogy, the middle book is the one th...more
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Aug 13, 2009
Mandy Moody
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Time and Chance was not as good as it's prequel, When Christ and His Saints Slept. It's not supposed to be as good as it's sequel, Devils Brood (which I haven't read yet.) It definitely wasn't as good as the Here Be Dragons Trilogy.
But it's still a Penman. And it was still really good.
The story of Henry and Eleanor is one that's been told by half a dozen authors, but SKP manages to put her own stamp on it and make it even more intriguing. Her historical characters are accurate in their despcrip...more
But it's still a Penman. And it was still really good.
The story of Henry and Eleanor is one that's been told by half a dozen authors, but SKP manages to put her own stamp on it and make it even more intriguing. Her historical characters are accurate in their despcrip...more
I finished this book yesterday and as usual, with anything I have read so far by Sharon K Penman, found it to be extremely well written and researched. I enjoyed it, and found my self looking up some of the historical figures on the computer, because I wanted to know more about them. I like that the author is so careful about trying to keep the actual places, people, and dates, historically accurate and that if she does change anything she lets the reader know in the "author's notes".
What struc...more
What struc...more
I really enjoyed going back in time and reading about Eleanor of Aquitaine again. I previously read Devil's Brood, which came after this one, but I liked it anyway, even though it was out of order.
There is much action and suspense in this account of one of the greatest queen's ever known. There is also much about the relationship between King Henry and Thomas Beckett. It begins with Beckett's appointment to the Archbishop of Canterbury. It shows how the relationship between him and the king dete...more
There is much action and suspense in this account of one of the greatest queen's ever known. There is also much about the relationship between King Henry and Thomas Beckett. It begins with Beckett's appointment to the Archbishop of Canterbury. It shows how the relationship between him and the king dete...more
From just seeing the movie, "Becket," I hadn't realized how many years the Becket saga lasted. I really enjoyed this book! It was a different take on "Saint Thomas." It seems clear that Becket was crazy! Even in his own time, most of his contemporaries thought he'd run mad. The argument between Henry and Becket was over the misdeeds and crimes of clergy and church clerks. Becket insisted that only the church could "punish" its own wrong-doers (even murderers and rapists). Henry agreed to let the...more
I wavered back and forth between 3 and 4 stars for this book. An honest disclaimer..this book had been recommended to me again and again with glowing praise so the bar was very, very high and I'm not sure it could have lived up to a 5 star no matter what. Now on to the actual review..
This is a solid historical fiction book. And that's the best adjective I can come up with for the book. It was missing anything that really connected for me. The narrator of the book constantly changes which stops y...more
This is a solid historical fiction book. And that's the best adjective I can come up with for the book. It was missing anything that really connected for me. The narrator of the book constantly changes which stops y...more
This is the second in Penman's Henry II/Eleanor of Aquitaine trilogy, and I have to say it's not quite as good as the first. Perhaps because by this book the battling and endless war over the crown is over, and it's more about political and emotional battles, with Thomas Becket and Henry's queen Eleanor. It's still good, but not quite as gripping. Henry's bafflement over Becket's behaviour is very well depicted, but you never really get a sense of Becket as a character, although I suspect that's...more
This is the second in Sharon Kay Penman's Eleanor of Aquitane series. After reading When Christ and His Saints slept, I was a little worried that this book would be just as dense. I was pleased to find that while it was still on the dense side, it was much more readable than the first piece in the series. I felt this book concentrated more on the main characters and a central story line, which made it easier to follow. I'm sure I'll read book 3, and the forthcoming book 4 at some point, but I th...more
Book 2 in Sharon Kay Penman's Eleanor of Aquitaine trilogy, following When Christ and His Saints Slept. Book 1 left off with the young Harry and Eleanor, the sizzling royal couple who hoped to create an empire. In Book 2, King Stephen dies and Harry inherits the throne, becoming King Henry II. For those who have read Book 1, you may recall that Stephen was a wonderful husband and an incompetent king. Harry is the opposite - a generally good king but a distant husband.
The novel, strongly rooted...more
The novel, strongly rooted...more
This is the 2nd of the Henry II and Eleanor of Aquitane series. The first book is When Christ and his Saints Slept. At the start of this book Henry II has gained the throne of England. After years of civil war, it seems that a better age may be here at last. The King has a beautiful wife and a growing family. He has also the wise council of his Chancellor Thomas Beckett. We truly wish they could all live happily ever after.
The trouble starts when King Henry names Beckett as Archbishop of Canterb...more
The trouble starts when King Henry names Beckett as Archbishop of Canterb...more
The second book of a fabulous trilogy - (first being Christ and his Saints...) - takes us to the battle for the English throne between the Empress Maude and Stephen - the throne is finally taken by Henry II - Time and Chance is the life and love of Henry & Eleanor of Aquitaine - with a the scandal of Thomas a' Becket in the forefront as well......Outstanding account of English politics in the 12th century... Eleanor of Aquitaine is magnificent in her own right....
I love this trilogy...... Am...more
I love this trilogy...... Am...more
This is the second of Penman's books I have read. This one continues the story of Henry II and Eleanor of Aquitaine and tracks the volatile relationship between Henry and Thomas Beckett. If you enjoy historical fiction Penman really balances her research and the story well. There are some moments where you can tell she is trying to give the back story to those who may not know the history. I like her imaginative approach that brings historical figures to a life so that even a historian can step...more
I really enjoyed the first book of this series, When Christ and His Angels Slept, but this one was even better. The dialogue between main characters was very believable, and the weaving of the story of Henry II and Eleanor of Aquitaine was exceptionally well done. I understand the time period now much better than I ever did from reading or studying history. The misunderstandings between Henry and Thomas Becket are well explained, indicating that they were both in the wrong, and Becket's death wa...more
Like most of Sharon Kay Penman's work, this novel is one I come back to from time to time and enjoy again. I just read TIME AND CHANCE again over the holiday weekend, and as always, Sharon's work took me back to the past. I spend a lot of time with Eleanor and Henry in my own work, so it was wonderfully refreshing to see characters I love from her point of view. Her research is impeccable, and the stength of it, as well as her love for her characters comes through in her novels. If you haven't r...more
This follows "When Christ and His Saints Slept", telling the story of King Henry II and Eleanor of Aquitaine. As usual, Penman does not disappoint, her writing is beautiful and she captures the time perfectly. I have read other stories written of this time period, but none can compare with the the amount of research Penman does. The story of Thomas Beckett, Owain the Great of Wales, not to mention the famous Eleanor of Aquitaine (one of my favorite female characters)....she captures them all in...more
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Penman received her bachelor's degree from the University of Texas at Austin, she majored in history, and also received a Juris Doctor (J.D.) degree from Rutgers University School of Law, and later worked as a tax lawyer. Penman suffered from an eighteen month bout with mononucleosis.
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“Autumn that year painted the countryside in vivid shades of scarlet, saffron and russet, and the days were clear and crisp under harvest skies.”
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“Ranulf had spent much of his life watching those he loved wrestle with the seductive, lethal lure of kingship. It had proved the ruination of his cousin Stephen, a good man who had not made a good king. For his sister Maude, it had been an unrequited love affair, a passion she could neither capture nor renounce. For Hywel, it had been an illusion, a golden glow ever shimmering along the horizon. He believed that his nephew had come the closest to mastery of it, but at what cost?”
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