Rip It Up and Start Again: Post-Punk 1978-1984
by Simon Reynolds
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Read in January, 2006
The standard narrative of the pop music history of the late 70’s and early 80’s has the bracing musical revolution of punk quickly degenerating into the more commercial and co-optable form of New Wave. Punk is the honest, authentic voice of political and aesthetic revolution, while New Wave is the watered down, corrupted, commercialized version of that impulse. Now there’s a grain of truth to this interpretation, but it misses a few things about punk that were quickly to drive it into an a...more
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Read in June, 2008
Simon Reynolds says, "The thing about living through a Golden Age is that you think it will never end." _Rip It Up and Start Again_ covers what has always seemed to be Generation X's Golden Age of music: post-punk. This general term covers everything from ska to new wave, from Goth to conceptual, from dance to trance.
The book covers the period from 1978 to 1984, and catalogues the most innovative bands of each genre. Based on interviews done over a period of 4 years, Simon Reynold...more
The book covers the period from 1978 to 1984, and catalogues the most innovative bands of each genre. Based on interviews done over a period of 4 years, Simon Reynold...more
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A review more of my own shortcomings and less of this book:
This book goes on the "read" shelf with a huge caveat--I'm not going to finish it. I'm not going to rate it, either. Maybe it's a really good book. I started this book months ago, and I am still just 60 pages in. Here's a sentence from page 60, and maybe you can see why I won't finish it: "Behind the director-provocateur and the agit-funk group lay a common source, Bertolt Brecht's antinaturalistic, unabashedly didacti...more
This book goes on the "read" shelf with a huge caveat--I'm not going to finish it. I'm not going to rate it, either. Maybe it's a really good book. I started this book months ago, and I am still just 60 pages in. Here's a sentence from page 60, and maybe you can see why I won't finish it: "Behind the director-provocateur and the agit-funk group lay a common source, Bertolt Brecht's antinaturalistic, unabashedly didacti...more
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Read in July, 2008
I used to have a certain amount of disdain toward music criticism - I really enjoy reading reviews, analysis and everything in between for movies and books, but what's that old line about writing about music and it being comparable to dancing about architecture? But I've been getting more and more into it lately, realizing that part of what I originally found offputting was that I lacked the technical vocabulary, something that has been improved over time. And I also realized that music analys...more
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Read in October, 2007
Covers basically every British rock band formed in the late 70s and early 80s, along with some influential American groups. The best part of the book is the first few chapters, which deal with the do-it-yourself movement and the political motivations of groups like the Gang of Four, the Pop Group, and Scritti Politti. It really captures the excitement and the exhaustion of any revolutionary movement, political or artistic: there's the thrill of bucking the system and doing something new, followe...more
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Read in June, 2008
A thorough and intellectual (sometimes a little too thorough and intellectual) overview of British and American post-punk art rock and pop. The first half of the book explains the lofty intellectual and musical ideals the drove bands such as Public Image Ltd., Pere Ubu, Joy Division, Gang of Four, and the Pop Group, while the more fractured second half explains how this post-punk movement spawned goth, neo-psychedelia, synth pop, 2-tone, the new romantic scene, and finally the New Rock and New ...more
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Read in September, 2007
I started this book because I both like a lot of bands that came out of the 80s and also wanted to learn more about the music of the era I was born in. The flourishing of independent music, the funky-kooky art school kids playing with tapes and synths, the mish-mash of styles all lead to a really diverse landscape that Reynolds believes is much richer than the punk that came before it.
Rising up out of the deluge of musicians and producers Reynolds rattles off are some memorable characters...more
Rising up out of the deluge of musicians and producers Reynolds rattles off are some memorable characters...more
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Read in February, 2008
recommends it for:
Music Lovers (particularly English music lovers)
Okay, I was the kid who ate, drank and dreamed music. Music was always around from the Red Hot Chili Peppers in a small club, being the the midst of FEAR riot in downtown L.A., watching Grand Master Flash at the Palace, to catching Love and Rockets on their first tour in the U.S.
Yeah, I was that guy who was suspended for sneaking out of class to go stand in the line to get tickets for The Who (with the Clash opening) and swore he would never wash his cheek after Suzanne Hoffs (from the Ba...more
Yeah, I was that guy who was suspended for sneaking out of class to go stand in the line to get tickets for The Who (with the Clash opening) and swore he would never wash his cheek after Suzanne Hoffs (from the Ba...more
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Read in December, 2007
recommends it for:
Americans who listen to BBC6, teenagers who like Bloc Party
This incredibly detailed, but very readable, history of the late 70s/early 80s British music scene is a revelation. Simon Reynolds covers all the important (and obscure) postpunk bands and creates a coherent narrative from it. Do you want to know about the leftist roots of Scritti Politti? Does it delight you to know that Echo and the Bunnymen were incredibly scornful of U2 because they were both trying to attract bereft Joy Division fans? Do you want to know exactly how industrial music was inv...more
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Read in October, 2007
recommends it for:
musicheads/anthropologists
You don't need to know about music, or even care about it, to enjoy this book. The way in which the author describes the music and the people involved with it is absolutely engrossing - his similies and metaphors are pure genius. For example: "Over an adrenaline-pumping bass pummel, swashbuckling guitars flash like the the scimitars of jihad cavalry charging an infidel city." OK, out of context it might not sound so terrific, but this guy comes up with the most out-there descriptors....more
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recommends it for:
amy rose, joseph o'leary, culture vultures
the unofficial sequel to PLEASE KILL ME, complete with matching cover design. Although not an oral history, the first three quarters of the book propelled me through some surprisingly interesting post-punk crevices with writerly panache; as noted elsewhere, this guy manages cultural history that borders on the literary. i got a little bored the last two chapters or so, as i imagine the author did: the swan song of vitality and passion is a slow drain.
but if you're into everything from lo-fi ...more
but if you're into everything from lo-fi ...more
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Read in February, 2007
this is the british edition which has a few more chapters than the american edition. hold out for the british edition if you can. i bought this for my daughter's first grade teacher because he likes ny punk as much as i do. my favorite chapter was the cleveland chapter covering pere ubu and devo. who knew that virgin records tried to get johnny rotten to be the singer for devo? a great chapter about heaven 17 and their start as more of a political collective than a band. they decided to have ...more
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Read in September, 2007
This book would be more appropriately titled Post-Punk and Beyond. The usual post-punk bands are covered, but they also include Pere Ubu and Devo, which were arguable less post-punk than art rock in their own right. After all, both bands preceded the punk explosion and evolved somewhat outside it.
The second half of the book deals mostly with Goth and New Pop - bands like Bauhaus, Sisters of Mercy, Killing Joke, and ABC, Flock of Seagulls, and Frankie Goes to Hollywood. Post-post-punk, I gues...more
The second half of the book deals mostly with Goth and New Pop - bands like Bauhaus, Sisters of Mercy, Killing Joke, and ABC, Flock of Seagulls, and Frankie Goes to Hollywood. Post-post-punk, I gues...more
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Read in July, 2008
This book is incredible. If you've ever wondered about what happened in music after punk and before american indie/hardcore, this is the book you should read. It covers some incredible bands, that I've listened to as a result ( most notably Gang of Four, Throbbing Gristle, and the Human League). It's really interesting to read about the birth of New Pop in the early 80s, which is the music that generally is thought of as "80's" music (stuff like the synth pop of Soft Cell, Depeche Mode...more
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Read in October, 2007
Highly readable account of the (mostly British) post-punk music scene from 78-84. He does a great job of putting the music in context of the social/political climate of the time (the backlash of punk, Thatcher and Reagan's rise to power, the return of the right wing) and exploring the different sub-sects of post-punk. From arty (Talking Heads, Gang of Four) to No Wave (Suicide, Teenage Jesus & The Jerks) to industrial (Throbbing Gristle, Cabaret Voltaire) to new wave (Devo, etc) to gothic ...more
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Read in June, 2007
Better than Reynolds articles because for the most he keeps himself out of it. It's also more coherent than his blog.
I learned about a lot of interesting bands from the late 70s San Fransisco industrial synth pop scene like Factrix, Nervous Gender, Tuxedo Moon and Savage Republic that I got into. I new the story of most of the major bands like Fall, Joy Division, and Wire but got a lot of funny, crazy anecdotes that put what they were doing in perspective. And I never knew that Throbbi...more
I learned about a lot of interesting bands from the late 70s San Fransisco industrial synth pop scene like Factrix, Nervous Gender, Tuxedo Moon and Savage Republic that I got into. I new the story of most of the major bands like Fall, Joy Division, and Wire but got a lot of funny, crazy anecdotes that put what they were doing in perspective. And I never knew that Throbbi...more
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So crammed full of information that it makes my head swim, not to mention reminding me that I need CDs by A Certain Ratio, The Passage, Crispy Ambulance, Caberet Voltaire, Pylon, and Delta 5. Not to mention wondering if that Desperate Bicycles LP will ever be re-issued. Not to mention...well, you can see why I've been reading it so long without finishing. Distractions, distractions. It was overdue at the libray, so I'll need to buy this one if I'm to have any hope of ever finishing it, cover to ...more
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this is the best peice of music journalism i ever read. sentence-by-sentence, its clever and wry and occasionly brilliant. as a whole, it brings in london (or manchester, or cleveland, etc.) history and sociology into the history of post- punk and new wave without being overly grandious or obnoxious. v. entertaining. it compiles legendary and esoteric information about all the artists featured in it (for example: who knew that malcolm mclaren wanted to make a promotional movie of The Slits ...more
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Read in January, 2007
A must for all the post-punk n00bs. My personal favourite is the Throbbing Gristle stuff. Genesis really is a grubby man (squirting shit out of his arse at the crowd etc etc).
Simon Reynolds manages (just) to pull it off. It's fairly episodic - which is fine until about halfway, but I couldn't read it in large stretches. More like a book to read every so often (it's basically a few bands a chapter).
The stuff about Cabaret Voltaire is good and the book as a whole is amazingly researche...more
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Read in April, 2007
recommends it for:
People who like seeing their housepets pee on books
I can now understand how you can make such an exciting time in music a real snore. Way too self important and boring it seems to always pause to pat the author on the back to congratulate himself for being in the scene at the time and does very little to tell insightful stories of people who made the scene. I would suggest treating the book like the title...Rip it up...and go watch 24 Hour Party People instead...a lot more entertaining and just as insightful (which isn't a lot of insight).
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