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Shadow Country
2008 NATIONAL BOOK AWARD WINNER
Peter Matthiessen’s great American epic–Killing Mister Watson, Lost Man’s River, and Bone by Bone–was conceived as one vast mysterious novel, but because of its length it was originally broken up into three books. In this bold new rendering, Matthiessen has cut nearly a third of the overall text and collapsed the time frame while deepening th...more
Peter Matthiessen’s great American epic–Killing Mister Watson, Lost Man’s River, and Bone by Bone–was conceived as one vast mysterious novel, but because of its length it was originally broken up into three books. In this bold new rendering, Matthiessen has cut nearly a third of the overall text and collapsed the time frame while deepening th...more
Hardcover, Modern Library, 892 pages
Published
April 8th 2008
by Modern Library
(first published 2008)
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Here lies Edgar Artemas Watson.
The book opens on a scene of destruction: a hurricane has ravaged the Ten Thousand Islands region of Florida. A posse of Watson's neighbors forms and on the ruined beach they kill Watson as he arrives on shore. The end of this man's life marks the beginning of this epic story. The duty of the rest of the almost 900 pages of this book is to answer these questions: who is Watson and why was he killed? Was it a just or unjust death? Who did he leave behind? Was he a m...more
In the early 1990s, Peter Matthiessen wrote his Watson trilogy, a 1400 page work that his publishers, to his discomfort, insisted on publishing in three volumes. Never satisfied with the work, feeling that it was disjointed and insufficiently integrated, Matthiessen began a number of years ago revising and extensively reworking the story, modifying it apparently significantly, and he published the new work last year as Shadow Country. I never read the trilogy – indeed, the only Matthiessen work...more
I swear I will never think of Florida the same again. Gone is my impression of an overly air conditioned world of old people wearing Bermuda shorts and long black socks. This book was brilliant and terrifying and drenched in blood. It’s set in the “Ten Thousand Islands” of the Florida Everglades beginning in the late 1800s when it was as lawless as the Wild West. The characters display frontier grit in spades and a vicious, poisonous breed of racism the likes of which I have never seen before. T...more
Shadow Country is actually three books rewritten and meant to be read together to get the whole story of Edgar J. Watson. He was a real plantation owner, one of the early settlers in the area now known as the Everglades. There are many rumors about his life and his death. This book is the fictionalized account of the myths and truths of the man and his family.
It’s a damn long book and sometimes I didn’t care if I got the truth. But that was mainly because I was ready to move on to something els...more
It’s a damn long book and sometimes I didn’t care if I got the truth. But that was mainly because I was ready to move on to something els...more
Webster's defines truth as a noun referring to 'the quality of being true, genuine, actual, or factual' - a static commodity in short supply in this bloated trilogy depicting the life, times and death of E.J. Watson. The first volume told from the vantage point of family, neighbors, legally emancipated but indentured slaves, lawmakers and others is by turns hearsay, storytelling, myth - all steeped in fear. Volume two has us pad along in the footsteps of his tortured son, Lucius as he chases the...more
3 books(2 stars, 2 stars, and 4 stars) rewritten into 1 long book. The 1st book sets up the tragic fiction character and is a tedious read with a lot of characters that are difficult to remember. The 2nd book is less tedious but also less entertaining. The 3rd book brings it all together; the fiction story that is used to bring in the history, and the total tragedy of the character, Florida, and the country as a whole. The story incorporates the sad, uneducated Scots and other poor whites that i...more
Shadow Country won the National Book award this year, but I don't think it should have. The book is a rewrite of three novels Matthiessen published about 30 years ago. He claims he dropped about 400 pages from the original, but in my mind 400 was not enough. The book could easily have been about half as long as it is (over 900 pages).
The story revolves around one E.J.Watson who was a planter in the Florida keys with a storied, violent past. Out of fear of him, his neighbors one day assassinate h...more
The story revolves around one E.J.Watson who was a planter in the Florida keys with a storied, violent past. Out of fear of him, his neighbors one day assassinate h...more
"Shadow Country" is one of those books I describe as "nearly great." (For our purposes here, that would translate to 4.5 stars if the rating system allowed). I owned the first book in the original trilogy that this book distills/subtracts from/adds upon, but never read it. I suspect I'm not missing a lot, as good as this novel is.
Matthiessen comes at the story of turn-of-the-century southwest Florida legend Edgar Watson from all angles -- in Book I, first-person narratives that don't include Wat...more
Matthiessen comes at the story of turn-of-the-century southwest Florida legend Edgar Watson from all angles -- in Book I, first-person narratives that don't include Wat...more
This is the fiction National Book Award winner for this year. Though daunting in size, this book is thoroughly enjoyable and readable. The setting is unique--backcountry Everglades farm communities around the turn of the 20th century. It's a long one (~800 pgs), and I just finished "book one" (of three). It's about the life and eventual murder (don't worry, that's not a spoiler) of a shady plantation owner/outlaw, E.J. Watson, except you never hear the story from his perspective, only from other...more
I really loved this book. I didn't know anything about the Watson legend before I started reading it, but it didn't matter. It's formatted as a trilogy so you hear mostly the same story from different points of view -- when I say it like that it sounds repetitive, but Matthiessen did a good job of not making it laborious. In fact, each of the three major parts gives you more information about the story you heard in the section before.
Edgar Watson, I guess true to what they say about his real lif...more
Edgar Watson, I guess true to what they say about his real lif...more
I am usually not a fan of National Book Award winners. And after reading Marilynne Robinson's "Home," I didn't think anything could top it. But they got it right this year. Matthiessen's trilogy is a book that (if I know anything about myself) will haunt me for a long time. It is one of the ten best novels I've ever read, and (as most of you know) I don't take ranking's lightly.
Of the three novels, I am fondest of the first--formerly published as Killing Mister Watson. Matthiessen's vernacular i...more
Of the three novels, I am fondest of the first--formerly published as Killing Mister Watson. Matthiessen's vernacular i...more
In southwest Florida, around Everglades City and the tiny Chokoloskee Island, the story is told of Mr. Watson, who arrived in the area in the late 1890s and died there in 1910. Watson was considered a bad man--in a frontier area without any good men. He settled at Chatham Bend, a small key, and started a successful sugar can plantation. Gathered around him were some really bad types, and the twonspeople became afraid of him. When dead body's began to show up at Chatham Bend, the story got around...more
Wow! What a book. This book is immense in size(literally) and scope! The book is a retelling and rewriting of three novels all independently published by the author. The story takes place in pioneer Florida at the beginning of the twentieth century. The planter Mr. EJ Watson is a gifted farmer and intelligent man... "who drives himself toward a violent end". His neighbors mostly admire him, his favorite son became obsessed with figuring the truth.
The truth is difficult to discern with stories o...more
The truth is difficult to discern with stories o...more
Shadow Country is three books in one. Each book tells the same story, but from a different point of view. The story is historical fiction about E.J. Watson, a legendary sugar farmer in turn of the century Florida. The book takes place in a Florida that was as wild as the western frontier. E.J. Watson had a sugar plantation in the Ten Thousand Islands on the Western coast of Florida. Watson had a reputation for being a ruthless killer, most prominent was the rumor of "Watson Payday" where he was...more
The story of Edgar J Watson, one of America's infamous outlaws, an entrepreneur who lived in the Florida Everglades around the turn of the century and left a trail of death from South Carolina to Arkansas to Florida. He was gunned down by a mob of his neighbors in 1910.
This book is a re-creation of Matthiessen's previous works "Killing Mister Watson," "Lost Man's River," and "Bone by Bone." The word "obsession" has been used to describe Matthiessen's preoccupation w/ the history of Edgar J Watso...more
This book is a re-creation of Matthiessen's previous works "Killing Mister Watson," "Lost Man's River," and "Bone by Bone." The word "obsession" has been used to describe Matthiessen's preoccupation w/ the history of Edgar J Watso...more
This book is based on the true story of a Florida planter and outlaw, E.J. Watson, who was murdered by his neighbours; it was originally a trilogy and Matthiessen reworked and condensed it to produce this version. It was entirely an accident that I ended up reading this whilst in Florida, given that it's set in the Florida back-country at the turn of the century. It really seemed to add to the atmosphere, being in and around the same places mentioned in the book, smelling the mangrove swamps and...more
Really interesting read, but I wish I had read it as three books instead of one collected book.
The gimmick of the book is that it essentially retells the same story three times, the life and death of real-life Florida sugar-baron E.J. Watson.
The first book tells the story from the perspective of Watson's neighbors. All unreliable, they sketch the outlines of his life and the events leading up to his death. Yet we never hear from the man himself.
The second book follows Watson's son as he tries t...more
The gimmick of the book is that it essentially retells the same story three times, the life and death of real-life Florida sugar-baron E.J. Watson.
The first book tells the story from the perspective of Watson's neighbors. All unreliable, they sketch the outlines of his life and the events leading up to his death. Yet we never hear from the man himself.
The second book follows Watson's son as he tries t...more
This is a work of historical fiction about the life and death of an actual figure, E.J. Watson, who was killed by an angry mob in the Florida Everglades in October of 1910.
Epic in nature, the novel covers the time period of the reconstruction through the great depression. Readers will be made well acquainted with the horrid state of race relations during that period of time, the reconstruction, institutional small-town injustice (which led to institutionalized lynch mob "justice"), the history...more
Epic in nature, the novel covers the time period of the reconstruction through the great depression. Readers will be made well acquainted with the horrid state of race relations during that period of time, the reconstruction, institutional small-town injustice (which led to institutionalized lynch mob "justice"), the history...more
Originally published as three separate books, Shadow Country is a one-volume reworking and combination of the three. This story of E. J. Watson, a turn-of-the-century Southwestern Florida entrepreneur, farmer and outlaw, has almost everything one could want in a book. Clearly, the Watson legend has been an obsession for Mr. Matthiessen, who worked on it, in various versions, for over thirty years. The result is a long (almost 900 pages) book; the three parts examine the life and death of Watson...more
The structure of this is very good. We start by looking at Watson from the outside, in a series of masterful fragments in the voices of those who knew him or had contact with him or heard about him; then we move a little closer, as his son Lucius spends his life in search of the truth about his father; finally, the whole story is narrated by Watson himself, so we move inside of him to experience the inner life of a man who has proved bafflingly hard to know from every other angle. At every point...more
I know this book won the National Book Award, and it's written by the highly respected Peter Matthiessen, who labored over its 892 pages for something like 30 years. I feel kind of sheepish only giving it three stars. But there they are. I liked this book, but I didn't love it, and taken as a whole, I thought it had its flaws. So three stars it is.
This book (as must always be explained for some reason, so I'm doing it too) began in Matthiessen's mind as one giant book, but ended up eventually be...more
This book (as must always be explained for some reason, so I'm doing it too) began in Matthiessen's mind as one giant book, but ended up eventually be...more
This book is a masterpiece, but don't trust this ordinary reader. Just look at the book jacket and read the quotes from such luminaries as Oates, Bellow, and Dillard. They are in awe of this book and so am I. You'd think that a book which begins with the story's climax--the murder of its protagonist--wouldn't be able to keep you interested for nearly 900 pages. In fact, I lugged this book around everywhere and read it whenever I had a moment to spare. I did not want it to end.
The author's note...more
First let me say that this is an extraordinary book. The writing is masterful. The characters are colorful and the sense of who they are is right on. This book is a collection of first person vignettes about the legend of a person named E.J. Watson who settled along the southern gulf coast of Florida around the turn of the 20th century to become a wealthy planter. Depending on who's telling the story, he was either a saint who helped his neighbors or the devil who was ruthless and who pretty muc...more
Critics described the three stand-alone Watson novels as magnificent epics, and Shadow Country, a seamless weaving and slimming down of these works, as a masterpiece. As in all his writing, Matthiessen offers a beautiful homage to place—the raw, untamed Everglades of the late 19th century—while trying to understand the costs that accompanied the conquering of the frontier. All the stand-alone sections have their strengths as they explore the motivations behind Watson’s death. Despite its heft, m...more
I'm just a bit up and down on this one, ending to the 'up' of middle.
The author's approach is to describe one fictonal EJ Watson's life from several perspecties, essentially written in three sections. They were originally three seperate books, and combined/sshirtened into this form. The first section weaves in and out of several different people who describe key events in Watson's life. The second section is written in his 'favorite' son's voice, the son who desperately tried to understand what...more
The author's approach is to describe one fictonal EJ Watson's life from several perspecties, essentially written in three sections. They were originally three seperate books, and combined/sshirtened into this form. The first section weaves in and out of several different people who describe key events in Watson's life. The second section is written in his 'favorite' son's voice, the son who desperately tried to understand what...more
Wow.
Shadow Country is a searing dissection of turn of the century (circa 1880-1910) Everglades culture, history and character. The focal character is E.J. Watson, sugar cane planter, innovator, patriarch, murderer, and victim.
The novel is comprised of three 'books', all telling the story of the death of Watson from separate points of view: first, various people who witnessed and assessed the events at the time; second, one of Watson's sons, trying (maybe) to reconstruct Watson's life and crimes...more
Shadow Country is a searing dissection of turn of the century (circa 1880-1910) Everglades culture, history and character. The focal character is E.J. Watson, sugar cane planter, innovator, patriarch, murderer, and victim.
The novel is comprised of three 'books', all telling the story of the death of Watson from separate points of view: first, various people who witnessed and assessed the events at the time; second, one of Watson's sons, trying (maybe) to reconstruct Watson's life and crimes...more
The story of the killing of "Bloody" Watson in remote South Florida in the early 20th century, told from three perspectives, stands as the crowning monument in what was already a distinguished career. The three parts were originally released as separate books and they didn't stand all that well on their own. Combined, they were edited down somewhat to the present volume, and though they involve retellings (the first by Watson's neighbors, the second an attempt to piece his story together by a su...more
A long (almost 800 pages) but brilliant exploration of Bloody Watson, a legendary outlaw in the Florida Everglades at the turn of the 20th century. The book is divided into 3 parts, and the story is told from many points of view. Book one has many points of view - various family members, friends, neighbors. Book two is told from the favorite son's pov. Book three is told from the pov of Watson himself. He was a man more sinned against than sinning, and his story expands our knowledge of American...more
Listen, I have great respect for the time and effort Matthiessen put into this novel. It is his life's work. This came from the depths of his soul, and the result is nothing short than epic. The only reason I rate this so low is that I personally found the story to be too boring. I'm sorry, I really tried to stay captivated throughout the whole novel, but it lost my interest. The entire story revolves around one man, E.J. Watson, set against the backdrop of post-Civil War/reconstruction America,...more
Shadow Country is a brutal, intricately characterised and stunningly rendered novel set in Florida’s Everglades at the turn of the 20th Century. It’s a reworking of Matthieson’s Mister Watson trilogy, and – for a novel that starts with its ending (almost) fully revealed – a totally gripping story.
Matthiessen's descriptions of landscape are masterful. He weaves a web of rumour and violence around the figure of Edgar J Watson, Florida sugar plantation owner and outlaw, through multiple and overlap...more
Matthiessen's descriptions of landscape are masterful. He weaves a web of rumour and violence around the figure of Edgar J Watson, Florida sugar plantation owner and outlaw, through multiple and overlap...more
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Peter Matthiessen was born in New York City in 1927 and had already begun his writing career by the time he graduated from Yale University in 1950. The following year, he was a founder of The Paris Review. Besides At Play in the Fields of the Lord, which was nominated for the National Book Award, he has published six other works of fiction, including Far Tortuga and Raditzer. Mr. Matthiessen's...more
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“From the first day I met his daughter, all I could think about was snuffling up under that sweet dimity like some bad old bear, just crawling up into that honeycomb, nose twitching, and never come out of there till early spring. Think that’s disgusting? Dammit, I do, too, but that’s the way male animals are made. Those peculiar delights were created to entrap us, and anybody who disapproves can take it up with God.
In their wondrous capacity of knowing the Lord’s mind, churchly folks will tell you that He would purely hate to hear such dirty talk. My idea is, He wouldn’t mind it half so much as they would have us think, because even according to their own queer creed, we are God’s handiwork, created in His image, lust, piss, shit, and all. Without that magnificent Almighty lust that we mere mortals dare to call a sin, there wouldn’t be any more mortals, and God’s grand design for the human race, if He exists and if He ever had one, would turn to dust, and dust unto dust, forever and amen. Other creatures would step up and take over, realizing that man was too weak and foolish to properly reproduce himself. I nominate hogs to inherit the Earth, because hogs love to eat any old damned thing God sets in front of them, and they’re ever so grateful for God’s green earth even when it’s all rain and mud, and they just plain adore to feed and fuck and frolic and fulfill God’s holy plan. For all we know, it’s hogs which are created in God’s image, who’s to say?”
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In their wondrous capacity of knowing the Lord’s mind, churchly folks will tell you that He would purely hate to hear such dirty talk. My idea is, He wouldn’t mind it half so much as they would have us think, because even according to their own queer creed, we are God’s handiwork, created in His image, lust, piss, shit, and all. Without that magnificent Almighty lust that we mere mortals dare to call a sin, there wouldn’t be any more mortals, and God’s grand design for the human race, if He exists and if He ever had one, would turn to dust, and dust unto dust, forever and amen. Other creatures would step up and take over, realizing that man was too weak and foolish to properly reproduce himself. I nominate hogs to inherit the Earth, because hogs love to eat any old damned thing God sets in front of them, and they’re ever so grateful for God’s green earth even when it’s all rain and mud, and they just plain adore to feed and fuck and frolic and fulfill God’s holy plan. For all we know, it’s hogs which are created in God’s image, who’s to say?”

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