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Villains by Necessity
by
Eve Forward
The triumph of Good and Light has transformed the world into a place of peace. This is bad news for the "bad guys," who incude a depressed thief who dresses in black, his short, feisty sidekick, a black knight, a female druid, a man-eating sorceress and an innocent centaur who is a spy for Good. Finding Utopia boring, they set out on a quest to restore balance to the world...more
Hardcover, 446 pages
Published
March 1st 1995
by Tor Books
(first published 1995)
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I first read this book when I was 15. I now have a bachelor's in English, and this is the only book I've read more than 2-3 times. I LOVE this book. I think there's a clear message here that is beyond a classic fantasy story with great humor and an epic plot. This book says to me that we choose (and have a right to choose) who we are, "good" or "evil." Some reviewers criticize the book for making evil characters that aren't 100% evil. In actuality, THAT IS THE POINT! People are not "good" or "ev...more
Aug 03, 2007
Josh Taylor
rated it
5 of 5 stars
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review of another edition
Recommends it for:
Fans of Terry Pratchett
Shelves:
comedy
Unforunately, this gem of a book has been out of print for quite some time and is worth $50 paperback and $100 hardback.
This is not your typical fantasy novel, it is written in a fantasy realm where good has prevailed. There is no murder, no stealing, no mugging. Fortunately, the ex-head of the theives guild is set to make things right in the world. Travel with the band fo merry theives as they set out to open the portals of darkness and unleash evil back into the world.
Villains by Necessity is...more
This is not your typical fantasy novel, it is written in a fantasy realm where good has prevailed. There is no murder, no stealing, no mugging. Fortunately, the ex-head of the theives guild is set to make things right in the world. Travel with the band fo merry theives as they set out to open the portals of darkness and unleash evil back into the world.
Villains by Necessity is...more
I... loved this book. It is an imaginative and refreshingly new take on the classic ´save the world´ fantasy adventure novel, with nods to the world of D&D and the popular fantasy universes we´re all so familiar with. The characters are wonderfully believable and imperfect, but loveable, and the plot takes many unexpected turns. An old favorite from the first time I read it, and highly recommended for all fans of fantasy novels.
Mar 30, 2008
Jaydee Faire
rated it
5 of 5 stars
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review of another edition
Recommends it for:
The Young at Heart
Shelves:
top-favorites
No, this book isn't heavy, thought-provoking reading, and it isn't a huge, epic thing like Lord of the Rings. It's just a good book! The characters are likeable, the plot is straightforward, but involved enough to pull you in. It's a good rainy-day book, or as a mental break from heavy, complicated fantasies (or English textbooks).
If you can find a copy, read and enjoy it-- that's all!
I read this book the summer I turned fifteen; I'd checked it out from the local library. From start to finish, I...more
If you can find a copy, read and enjoy it-- that's all!
I read this book the summer I turned fifteen; I'd checked it out from the local library. From start to finish, I...more
What happens after the forces of evil are finally vanquished and the victorious heroes bring peace and harmony to the land? The classic epic fantasies end with the defeat of the villains and a land that is now a better place, filled with peace and harmony- but is that really the happy ending that it seems to be? Perhaps too much goodness and light can, in fact, be deadly, and only those who live in the shadows can see that the world is on the brink of destruction.
Sam, Arcie and Valeriana appear...more
Sam, Arcie and Valeriana appear...more
This is easily one of my favorite books of all time. The final battle between Good and Evil has been fought, and Good has won...but a small group of anti-heroes decide to quest to bring Evil back into the world. It parodies more things than I can even think to name, although the most obvious is the Dragonlance Saga. It is really sad that so few copies of this book were printed...
Have you ever wondered what happens when the epic battle of good (light) versus evil (light) is won? Is it all as peaceful and loving and happy as typical stories make it out to be? This book says no! "It all goes to pot", according to Sam the assassin and Arcie the master thief. Ultimately, it is conflict that drives progress in the world and without it it begins to stagnate.
This is an enjoyable story, terrible prose and all. All questions of morality and ethics aside it entertains in a fun way...more
This is an enjoyable story, terrible prose and all. All questions of morality and ethics aside it entertains in a fun way...more
I first stumbled upon this book when I was in high school, and it is fair to say, in 90's parlance, that it "rocked my world." A world where Good has triumphed, and that triumph will cause the end of the world? A plot where the bad guys are the good guys? I've always had an anti-hero love, so my reaction was, sign me up!
I've read it a handful of time since then, usually every couple of years, and the older I get the more I like the plot. As an adult, I do notice some areas where she overwrote or...more
I've read it a handful of time since then, usually every couple of years, and the older I get the more I like the plot. As an adult, I do notice some areas where she overwrote or...more
What would happen if the forces of good managed to completely destroy or drive evil off the face of the world? It goes to pot. That is according to Sam, the last assassin, Arcee, the last thief master, and their moltly crew of evil-doers. It's a very interesting read, and one that I highly recommend.
Jul 08, 2011
Sunhi
rated it
5 of 5 stars
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review of another edition
Recommends it for:
D & D fans!
Shelves:
fantasy,
comic-fantasy
Reviewed at: http://sunhibooks.blogspot.com/2011/0...
Rather hilariously, I've already reviewed this book, and I hadn't realized it until I went to the Amazon page and saw my own review for it there! I will paste my review in and add a few thoughts.
In a twist on the usual fantasy story, Forward's heroes are not classically good-hearted heroes, but instead villains. Including an assassin, an evil sorceress, a greedy thief, and a black knight, the main characters are likable and intriguing. They b...more
Rather hilariously, I've already reviewed this book, and I hadn't realized it until I went to the Amazon page and saw my own review for it there! I will paste my review in and add a few thoughts.
In a twist on the usual fantasy story, Forward's heroes are not classically good-hearted heroes, but instead villains. Including an assassin, an evil sorceress, a greedy thief, and a black knight, the main characters are likable and intriguing. They b...more
Sep 05, 2007
Sirdarksol
rated it
5 of 5 stars
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review of another edition
Recommends it for:
Anyone who likes fantasy
This is an unbelievably funny book. Despite its humor, however, it is also a beautiful rendition of the traditional heroic fantasy, with villains in place of the heroes.
This was quite fun, (terrible prose and all.) The conceit is rather thin - our villain protagonists soon prove themselves to have hearts of gold and a good cause - and maybe a bit too long, but still perfectly enjoyable. Characterization which is not all together terrible and a really quick pace help, and theres the nostalgia crack factor. Ambiguous morally grey anti-villains far nicer than your run of the mill contemporary fantasy hero! Elves! Dark Elves! Running around the continent to collect...more
This is the first fantasy book I remember reading. It isn't as big a world as larger series, but all the parts are there. Magic, assassins, druids, all in a world gone backwards.
The story follows an assassin, and a thief as they set upon a quest to re-balance the world. It's an interesting concept where you end up rooting for the "villains" and questioning the motives of the "good guys".
I really liked this book and recommend it to anyone that likes fantasy, dragons, or good vs. evil stories. Thi...more
The story follows an assassin, and a thief as they set upon a quest to re-balance the world. It's an interesting concept where you end up rooting for the "villains" and questioning the motives of the "good guys".
I really liked this book and recommend it to anyone that likes fantasy, dragons, or good vs. evil stories. Thi...more
"In a game of chess, someone has to take the black pieces." - In that one sentence, Eve Forward brilliantly summarizes the premise of her debut novel. Most fantasy writers feature a battle between good and evil where good wins at the end. However, "Villains By Necessity" takes a different approach, and explores exactly what happens AFTER good has triumphed over evil...and the result is one of the most compelling books I've ever read!
In Eve's novel, the ultimate triumph of good over evil has left...more
In Eve's novel, the ultimate triumph of good over evil has left...more
Is world peace all that it's cracked up to be? And what's so great about utopia? An ex-assassin, a crooked thief, a mysterious Druid, a cannibalistic sorceress, a simple centaur, and a black knight team up as the last remaining villains to vanquish good and restore balance to the world. Villains by Necessity by Eve Forward is a fun parody of traditional fantasy epics like The Lord of the Rings and Dungeons & Dragons. I first read this book when I was in middle school. It has been a decade si...more
This was a fun read; not a serious one or one that added to
the fantasy genre.
The highlights of this book are:
(1) Evil has to save the world by trying to restore the
game balance; so good people are after them;
(2) the humor is fairly good in this tale;
(3) the pacing is well done;
(4) the story is light on evil so if you don't want a serious
spread, you got it in this tale; and
(5) There are some clever outcomes for the villains; in other words, they succeed in ways that aren't usual
The areas that are...more
the fantasy genre.
The highlights of this book are:
(1) Evil has to save the world by trying to restore the
game balance; so good people are after them;
(2) the humor is fairly good in this tale;
(3) the pacing is well done;
(4) the story is light on evil so if you don't want a serious
spread, you got it in this tale; and
(5) There are some clever outcomes for the villains; in other words, they succeed in ways that aren't usual
The areas that are...more
Apr 20, 2008
Eileen Phillips
rated it
4 of 5 stars
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review of another edition
Recommends it for:
d&d nerds
Recommended to Eileen by:
Tim Schuetz
Shelves:
sci-fi-fantasy
Great role reversal fantasy novel. The villians have to save the world from being sublimated by too much goodness in the world by bringing evil back into the world. But in doing this the villians sort of become heroes themselves...Wherein, things get a little bit fuzzy. I mean, good people can do bad things & bad people can do good things, but really, the "villians" were essentially good people... I'd say in the villian party their d&d alignments would be as follows:
Blackmail - Chaotic...more
Blackmail - Chaotic...more
Sep 16, 2011
Terence
rated it
1 of 5 stars
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review of another edition
Recommended to Terence by:
Nobody
Shelves:
sf-fantasy
Truly awful and simplistic. I picked it up hoping for a reasonably intelligent take on the relationship between "good" and "evil."
I wasn't expecting Kant or Spinoza but I didn't even get Moorcock. I didn't make it past the first 50 pages before tossing it aside in disgust.
PS - I'm adding it to my shelves now (Sept 2011) because I just saw it on the new Recommendations page that they added to the site. Until now I had mercifully forgotten it.
Thanks, GoodReads!
I wasn't expecting Kant or Spinoza but I didn't even get Moorcock. I didn't make it past the first 50 pages before tossing it aside in disgust.
PS - I'm adding it to my shelves now (Sept 2011) because I just saw it on the new Recommendations page that they added to the site. Until now I had mercifully forgotten it.
Thanks, GoodReads!
When it's up to villains to save the world from stagnating under too much good, you know you are in for an interesting read!
Forward answers the questions best left unasked. Can a world where good triumphs over evil truly live happily ever after? When good does evil, and evil does good, when is left of neutrality?Villains by necessity answers these and other questions through a humourous adventure in which stereotypes of fantasy are mocked ever so gently.
Forward answers the questions best left unasked. Can a world where good triumphs over evil truly live happily ever after? When good does evil, and evil does good, when is left of neutrality?Villains by necessity answers these and other questions through a humourous adventure in which stereotypes of fantasy are mocked ever so gently.
May 31, 2008
Angela
rated it
5 of 5 stars
·
review of another edition
Recommends it for:
If you have read a lot of fantasy, you will find this book hilarious.
This priceless parody of fantasy novels functions on two levels. As a parody, it is very funny. The author lovingly mocks every fantasy cliche you can think of - it's obvious that she has read and enjoyed a lot of fantasy.
However, this book also works perfectly as an epic fantasy novel! Somehow, it manages to be a great example of the exact type of novel it is parodying!
This book also remains enjoyable over many readings. I am not one to re-read books often as a general rule, and I can't even te...more
However, this book also works perfectly as an epic fantasy novel! Somehow, it manages to be a great example of the exact type of novel it is parodying!
This book also remains enjoyable over many readings. I am not one to re-read books often as a general rule, and I can't even te...more
A simple but fun fantasy novel that doesn't take itself too seriously, and yet has a point to make about good and evil. I found the first half of the book to be lacking any character depth or excitement; it reads like a saturday morning cartoon (but then, so does The Hobbit). But then suddenly it gets far more interesting as we get a better sense of what the characters are like and what motivates them. I enjoyed that second half far more, and though most of the ending was fairly predictable, it...more
A clever concept that for a fair bit of the book tended to get executed clumsily. The characters were fairly two dimensional and the villains' enemies motivations and actions never quite clicked for me.
That said, the concept of what happens after the heroes win is a novel one and the premise was pretty solid. Still, it failed, mostly, on execution for me so I wouldn't recommend it.
That said, the concept of what happens after the heroes win is a novel one and the premise was pretty solid. Still, it failed, mostly, on execution for me so I wouldn't recommend it.
Nov 12, 2009
Tiamat_the_red
rated it
5 of 5 stars
Recommends it for:
anyone who likes fantasy or is interested in people's motivations.
This is one of my all time favorite books. The characters feel like real people with believable motivations and the Good Guys demonstrate very clearly how, exactly, the Road to Hell is paved. I really enjoyed the way the villains were the heroes of this story and how well the Heroes embodied all the things that make me want to slap Heroes in other books.
Probably one of the least well known twists on a classic adventure/questing tale. Also one of my favorite books. Note: the description above is incorrect. This book is about 5 villains who embark on a quest to balance the scales of good & evil in the world. After all, the good guys won, so what else is there to do?
I read this book years ago, and I would love to read it again (if only I could find it). I've yet to find a writer who had the sheer audacity to write a story about wayward villains in a world where good has already been triumphant. It's filled with imperfect characters, and that's just the way I like it.
Aug 16, 2008
Sbuchler
rated it
3 of 5 stars
Recommended to Sbuchler by:
Alex
Shelves:
scifi-fantasy,
read-in-2008
Genre: Epic Fantasy
This is a basic twist on the generic D&D style "group of adventures must do x (usually a widgit hunt) in order to save the world". The twist is that since Good has won the war the group of adventures are Evil, trying to bring Evil back into the world, to keep the world from exploding due to perfection. There were some really cute stabs at the books it's parodying - at one point you meet a group of adventures that are pretty much the DragonLance characters. It's a fun read,...more
This is a basic twist on the generic D&D style "group of adventures must do x (usually a widgit hunt) in order to save the world". The twist is that since Good has won the war the group of adventures are Evil, trying to bring Evil back into the world, to keep the world from exploding due to perfection. There were some really cute stabs at the books it's parodying - at one point you meet a group of adventures that are pretty much the DragonLance characters. It's a fun read,...more
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Eve Forward is an author and television screenwriter. She is the daughter of the late American physicist and popular science fiction author Robert L. Forward,[1] and the sister of Bob Forward, also a writer and film director.
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“But see you, we should travel by night. Dark times for dark business, as they says. No sun to bother Valeriana or you, Kaylana's surely no' disadvantaged, and I know I work better in darkness. Anybody looking for us will have a harder time of it. Besides, marching in daylight is for the heroes. If we're going to do this, we may as well go all out.”
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