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Sauron Defeated: The History of The Lord of the Rings, Part Four (The History of Middle-Earth #9)

really liked it 4.0  ·  Rating Details ·  2,530 Ratings  ·  35 Reviews
In the first section of Sauron Defeated Christopher Tolkien completes his fascinating study of The Lord of the Rings. Beginning with Sam's rescue of Frodo from the Tower of Cirith Ungol, and giving a very different account of the Scouring of the Shire, this section ends with versions of the hitherto unpublished Epilogue, in which, years after the departure of Bilbo and Fro ...more
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Published March 4th 2002 by HarperCollins (first published January 6th 1992)
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Tommy Grooms
May 24, 2013 Tommy Grooms rated it it was amazing
Another volume in the History of Middle-earth, and another invaluable look into Tolkien's creative process. Sauron Defeated is odd in that it includes a variety of sources, nothing odder than his convoluted Notion Club Papers. It's a bit of a slog to those not as obsessed with Tolkien's work, however. As with many of the books in this series, even someone as fascinated as me found bits tedious, in particular those about the Adunaic language. To paraphrase Tolkien, it is sad that that part of Tol ...more
Ahmad Sharabiani
Sauron Defeated: The History of The Lord of the Rings, Part Four (The History of Middle-Earth #9), J.R.R. Tolkien, Christopher Tolkien (Editor)
Neil Coulter
Jul 18, 2013 Neil Coulter rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition

I often find the final installment of a series to be alternately satisfying and mundane. Satisfying, because it's the conclusion of so much that I've invested in. Mundane, because by that point the only things that can happen are the things that absolutely must happen before the story ends. Sauron Defeated (Part Four of The History of the Lord of the Rings within Volume IX of The History Of Middle-Earth) is like that. I'm still interested to see Tolkien's process as he figures out how to bring T

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D J Rout
Jan 26, 2017 D J Rout rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: Elise McKenna
More fo rthe Tolkien completists. It dos contain the text of 'The Notion Club papers' so that's something, and some notes on the Adunaci language, but it's hard going. I would use it more for reference purposes.

It does have a a somewhat clearer explantion fo the cosmography or cosmology of Middle Earth than is explained in The Silmarillion so that's something.
Anne Gazzolo
Mar 17, 2017 Anne Gazzolo rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Fascinating conclusion to The History of The Lord of the Rings. Also includes The Notion Club Papers which I read a few years ago for a class. Various drafts of the fall of Numenor and the early history of Men is very interesting.
Jeremy
Jan 04, 2017 Jeremy rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
This book has several things to offer to lovers of Tolkien. First, another ending to the trilogy. Yes, even as long as the ending already is, Tolkien originally conceived a further ending, in which Sam and his daughter discuss the visit of Elessar the north kingdom, a visit that is only mentioned in the published appendix. Whoever decided to cut it made an excellent decision--it is entirely unnecessary to the flow of the work, and would have made the book far less successful. It would have left ...more
Ulysses
Aug 07, 2015 Ulysses rated it it was ok
After reading and re-reading The Hobbit, The Lord of The Rings, The Silmarillion, and several of Tolkien's "outtakes" like Unfinished Tales and The Children of Húrin, I've been looking forward for quite some time to diving into the gory details and further outtakes in The History of the Lord of The Rings. I chose to start with this volume as an "appetizer" before I move on to the two HLOTR volumes that interest me most, dealing with the history of The Silmarillion.

"Sauron Defeated" turns out to
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Lucinda
Jan 01, 2013 Lucinda rated it it was amazing
Fascinating, detailed and astonishing; one is able to explore the history behind Tolkien’s creation and many significant events.

Saruon Defeated is the ninth book within the extensive published works on the history of Middle-Earth, which is compiled by Christopher Tolkien and explored at length JRR Tolkien’s masterful creation. The epic scope of the mythology that he created, those memorable events that we shall never forget and how he crafted his work within our own historical timeline never fa
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Nicholas Whyte
Mar 12, 2012 Nicholas Whyte rated it really liked it
Shelves: 2012, 1206, sf, tolkien, xp
http://nwhyte.livejournal.com/1956859.html[return][return]The end of the story of the writing of The Lord of the Rings, including Tolkien's attempts to plot out the very end of the story - Gollum always had a role in the destruction of the Ring, but exactly what that was took some time to work out; but Saruman only gradually emerged as the villain in The Scouring of the Shire, and a postscript of Sam and Rose and their children twenty years on was dropped on the advice of Tolkien's beta readers ...more
Nicholas Whyte
http://nwhyte.livejournal.com/1956859...

The end of the story of the writing of The Lord of the Rings, including Tolkien's attempts to plot out the very end of the story - Gollum always had a role in the destruction of the Ring, but exactly what that was took some time to work out; but Saruman only gradually emerged as the villain in The Scouring of the Shire, and a postscript of Sam and Rose and their children twenty years on was dropped on the advice of Tolkien's beta readers (I wonder if wheth
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Susan Ferguson
Dec 31, 2012 Susan Ferguson rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: hardback, 2015
This series of books is the evolution of the stories of The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings. Which gave Tolkien great trouble. He would have things planned out, and a new character would come in and change the story....he said so himself in one of his letters. But the evolution is interesting. Poor Christopher, his son, had a time going through the papers and trying to read his father's handwriting from the early and later stages. JRR sometimes wrote on pieces of paper and wrote in pen on top o ...more
Dru
Jul 11, 2012 Dru rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: fantasy
This will be my 12-volume write-up of the entire series "The History of Middle Earth".
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This series is ONLY for the hardcore Tolkien fanatic. Predominantly written by
JRR's son, based on JRR's notes on the creation of The Silmarilion and
The Lord of the Rings (much less on The Hobbit). It is somewhat interesting to
see the evolution of the story (for example, "Strider" was originally conceived as
a Hobbit (one of tho
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Rossrn Nunamaker
I had read The Book of Lost Tales, Part One and Part Two in the early 1990's, but hadn't read any of this series since.

I had started The Return of the Shadow, but switched to Sauron Defeated and finally finished it this weekend.

These books are for either super fans of Tolkien or those who want insight into Tolkien's writing process.

Reading these I wonder if it will even be possible to explore the writing process given digital 'overwriting' of text. There really aren't any side notes or comments
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Michael
Jan 16, 2016 Michael rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
The portion of this book dedicated to the conclusion of the Lord of the Rings is actually fairly brief, with the majority of space taken up by drafts of The Notion Club Papers, and different versions of the downfall of Numenor.

The Notion Club Papers seem to be Tolkien trying to work some ideas out on paper, but not much actually happens. It's in the style of storytelling where people sit around and talk about things that have happened, without actually doing anything, which for me gets to be te
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Dan
Aug 13, 2015 Dan rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
most of it repetitive and boring but finally a couple worthwhile gems - an epilogue briefly mentioning what happened to some of the main characters after the crowning of Aragorn and the return to the Shire. Also a short story in which Tolkein himself is a disguised character - and a Hungarian at that! He even spells the Hungarian words correctly...well he was a linguist. I also found it interesting that he based the history of the pervious ages on the story of Atlantis. This story, not necessari ...more
Sara
Feb 06, 2013 Sara rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Read the manuscripts provided and annotated by Christopher Tolkien for the Scouring of the Shire through the Epilogue to the Lord of the Rings (Sam Gamgee at home with his family about a decade after Frodo left the Grey Havens). Love them - one of my favorite parts of the Lord of the Rings in deeper detail.

Tried to read the Notion Papers for class, but could not find my way into them at all, at all. (Although I very much enjoyed the other time-travel novel attempt by Tolkien, The Lost Road).
Jim
Dec 08, 2009 Jim rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: sci-fi-fantasy
It only takes about 130 pages to finish up The Lord of the Rings. After that Tolkien makes another failed attempt at science fiction. Astral projection and time travel all mixed up with Middle Earth history. A main topic of this volume is Tolkien's invented languages. I'm not surprised to see that as the series of books progresses, fewer and fewer people post reviews. I've been tempted to drop out a few times, but there are only three more to go!
Glen Hastings
Like any of the history of middle earth books this is not for the casual reader but rather the Tolkien fan who wants to dive into the creative process. Only three stars as the notion club papers is more of a slog than usual as it is significantly less connected to the legendarium then other portions. Two nice payoffs in the end where Christopher Tolkien delves into his fathers methods and approach in creating the Numenorien Legend and the aduanic language.
Michael Davis
Apr 23, 2011 Michael Davis rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
As good as the others, so far. Wrapping the story up just as sad in rough draft as in final version.

I wrote about the experience of reading all 12 of those volumes here: http://soundscryer.com/2011/06/13/chr... (part 1) and here: http://soundscryer.com/2011/12/02/chr... (part 2). Much more detail about the series in those two pieces.
Nonabgo
May 26, 2015 Nonabgo rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: fantasy
I found this to be quite boring, unlike the first 8 books of the series, which I've enjoyed a lot. The book is split into 3 parts. The first one is the conclusion to LOTR, the second part is The Notion Club Papers, and the third - The Drowning of Anadûne. I've read the first and third parts of the book and seriously tried to go through the Notion Club Papers, but was unable to do so. It's very convoluted, has nothing to do with the rest of the mythology and it's a snooze.
Martin Hernandez
Esta edición en particular forma parte de una colección de veintitantos volúmenes que publicaron aprovechando la popularidad de las películas, e incluyen todo lo que escribió TOLKIEN, incluyendo los apuntes y versiones descartadas de sus libros. Una colección exagerada, con muchos tomos de escaso interés para el lector "regular". Sólo para los muy clavados en desmenuzar todos los detalles del "Señor de los Anillos"
Antoine
Much more interesting than the other three historyu of the LR volumes, because it contains the workings of other unfinished work besides The Lord of the Rings.
Mariana
Mar 04, 2016 Mariana rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Fue muy interesante adentrarse de nuevo en la Tierra Media y recordar sucesos del final de El señor de los anillos: El retorno del rey. Y qué mejor que con análisis de parte de Christopher Tolkien (hijo de JRR Tolkien), todo muy discutido y en forma de ensayo, muy bien estructurado.
Kana
Nov 15, 2012 Kana marked it as to-read  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: tolkien
Summary
My goal for 2013 is to finish the Middle-Earth Universe of books. While doing so I will be following The Tolkien Professor Lectures.
anolinde
Jul 03, 2016 anolinde rated it it was ok
Interesting stuff re: The Return of the King, but man, those Notion Club Papers... Sometimes engaging but more often pretentious and painful. I seriously just could not when two of the members started acting out the Downfall of Numenor. Like stop.
Ashwise
Jul 15, 2014 Ashwise rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
This was an interesting read as it compiled early drafts from Return of the King. Glad his son shared it as it was kinda neat seeing what earlier plot devices Tolkien was thinking of.
Linda
Feb 22, 2013 Linda rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Didn't read the whole thing in detail, but this volume is worth it for the Notion Club Papers alone. A linguistic problem solving novella? Sign me up!
Andre
Jun 23, 2015 Andre rated it it was ok
In the history of LOTR, this book has both the part I was most excited about - the epilogue - and the least excited about - the notion club papers. As with the others, for hard-core fans only.
Dave Maddock
Apr 21, 2012 Dave Maddock rated it liked it
Shelves: fantasy, inklings
Only read The Notion Club Papers section for a class at Mythgard Institute.
Pater Edmund
Jun 02, 2011 Pater Edmund rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: literature
This has got the "Notion Club Papers", which are amazing.
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The History of Middle-Earth (1 - 10 of 13 books)
  • The Book of Lost Tales, Part One (The History of Middle-Earth, #1)
  • The Book of Lost Tales, Part Two (The History of Middle-Earth, #2)
  • The Lays of Beleriand (The History of Middle-Earth, #3)
  • The Shaping of Middle-Earth (The History of Middle-Earth, #4)
  • The Lost Road and Other Writings (The History of Middle-Earth, #5)
  • The Return of the Shadow: The History of The Lord of the Rings, Part One (The History of Middle-Earth, #6)
  • The Treason of Isengard: The History of The Lord of the Rings, Part Two (The History of Middle-Earth, #7)
  • The War of the Ring: The History of The Lord of the Rings, Part Three (The History of Middle-earth, #8)
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  • The War of the Jewels (The History of Middle-earth, #11)

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