Heretics of Dune 10cc [Paperback] by Herbert, Frank
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Read in September, 2007
It speaks volumes of this book that up until the last six pages I had absolutely no idea what the endgame was; yet throughout, I was riveted to the page. Herbert's ability to introduce you to a pre-existing world with all of its complexities and idiosyncrasies without telling you a damned thing is at its best in Heretics of Dune, which delineates the decline of the God Emperor's vast domain over which he reigned as a Tyrant for 3500 years.
Organizations at varying degrees of the grotesque, c...more
Organizations at varying degrees of the grotesque, c...more
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Read in May, 2008
This is a book that starts off with a lot of new characters and the familiar Duncan character. There are many people making plots and conducting secretive maneuvers and it makes you want to see what comes next. Who will win out? You get to learn a lot about the Bene Gesserit and the Bene Theilax. The book slowly builds up the suspense and intrigue but then in the last part of the book the author seems tired of writing it and rushes to a hasty and unsatisfying conclusion. Right at a point where t...more
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Read in February, 2002
wow, i thought this book was really great. i actually liked this even more than some of the earlier books (that may sound strange to some people). thousands of years in the future, this takes place on a world that has change a LOT since the first dune. many of the old landmarks are gone, the worms are strange and different, and the fremen are even more wild than they were before. what i loved the most about this book, though, was that it told a story from the bene gesserits' point of view. in th...more
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Read in September, 2007
Finally! I haver been dreading reading this book for ever so long, and now the alarm bells seem to have been superfluous. Lulled into a false sense of doom and with jangling nerves fostered by the utter metaphysical crap that were the second, third and fourth books of the Dune series, and God Emperor of Dune was singularly mind-numbing, this gave my jangling nerves rest.
What's different? Well, there's still a lot of obscure talk, but some of it finally is relieved with some actual ACTION! Th...more
What's different? Well, there's still a lot of obscure talk, but some of it finally is relieved with some actual ACTION! Th...more
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HERETICS is by far my favorite of the DUNE Chronicles. As time jumps forward thousands of years again, we meet Miles Teg, a grizzled old soldier of the Bene Gesseritt. Teg has been charged with recovering a new ghola of Duncan Idaho, the first since the end of the last book. Through this ghola, the Bene Gesseritt hope to awaken some trace of memory to the time of the God Emperor in hopes of understanding his grand plan for the human race. A new threat has invaded the galaxy and put mankind on no...more
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I love how this series degenerated from thoughtful diatribes on environmentalism, history, religion, and politics into a tale of spandex wearing dominatrixes. Let's take a look into the mind of Frank Herbert as he was writing this:
SPACE HOOKERS FAP FAP I'M BRILLIANT NEED SOME MORE IDEAS BETTER GET SOME "SPICE MELANGE" IE DORITOS HEY HOW ABOUT A SCENE WHERE THE SPACE HOOKERS TALK ABOUT ALL THE HUNDREDS OF DIFFERENT WAYS THEY CAN ORGASM AND THE BENE GESSERIT ONE UP THEM BY SAYING WE ...more
SPACE HOOKERS FAP FAP I'M BRILLIANT NEED SOME MORE IDEAS BETTER GET SOME "SPICE MELANGE" IE DORITOS HEY HOW ABOUT A SCENE WHERE THE SPACE HOOKERS TALK ABOUT ALL THE HUNDREDS OF DIFFERENT WAYS THEY CAN ORGASM AND THE BENE GESSERIT ONE UP THEM BY SAYING WE ...more
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Read in August, 2007
After the oppressive quality of God Emperor of Dune I found the fifth novel to be a welcome change of direction. The universe that exists thousands of years after the era of Muad'dib is as complex, layered and ultimately as fascinating as that which saw the rise of Paul Atreides. I especially liked that Herbert recast the Benegeserit as the heroes of the final novels, a big change from the self-interested manipulators that they were in the first few. In some ways the last two novels are only ma...more
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Read in October, 2007
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die-hard Dune fans
I tried reading this book about 10 years ago and just couldn't get into it. I needed a change of pace from my young adult books and thought I would give it another try. This is not for the casual reader or anyone unfamiliar with the Dune universe, but it turned out to be a good read. The story takes place a few thousand years after the original Dune novel and first two sequels, yet it does a good job of catching the reader up to speed on events. There are too many storylines to attempt to summar...more
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This began the unfinished second trilogy of the Dune series, following the fallout from the 4th book. I find it interesting that the book follows the all-female Bene Gesserit as the new protagonists, with Duncan Idaho as the sole male with which to identify. What's less obvious, is that the "women" are that only in physical form. It seems very much to me that Herbert wrote the women in the same sense as men might think/act, but required them to be women for plot purposes. This creates ...more
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Read in May, 2000
The Dune series is remarkable in that each sequel gets progressively worse until it's unreadable.
The first book is truly excellent. It's mantra on fear alone makes it great.
The second book a very good sci-fi novel.
The third book is merely okay.
The fourth book is sub-par, but still interesting.
The fifth book is a pain in the ass to read.
The sixth book will leave you concerned about the author's health, so terribad is the writing.
But hey, the first book kicks ass!
The first book is truly excellent. It's mantra on fear alone makes it great.
The second book a very good sci-fi novel.
The third book is merely okay.
The fourth book is sub-par, but still interesting.
The fifth book is a pain in the ass to read.
The sixth book will leave you concerned about the author's health, so terribad is the writing.
But hey, the first book kicks ass!
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This book marks the return to action of the "Dune" series, without dropping its phylosophical side. I was glad to finally get a book largely from the Bene Gesserit point of view, and I think Herbert managed to create a very believable "mothers of the world" group. After the imposed submission to the God Emperor, other older groups are also reemerging and the new threats are terrible yet odly familiar. The ending is a bit surprising, but makes for a good conclusion to the book
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Read in September, 2007
Odrade and Miles Teg were my favorite additional characters in this, the fifth Dune book. Their completely unselfish adherence to a moral code beyond the religious ramifications of the Tyrant is admirable. Duncan Idaho is even hotter than usual by the end, despite his young age, when he masters the sexual methods cultivated by the Honored Matres. The book is still a bit slow compared to Dune and Children of Dune, my favorite books in the series.
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Well, it was a difficult one to follow, but it was still interesting nonetheless. The actual concept of the titular "heresies" could have used further elaboration and development, and maybe some more relevance to the plot as a whole, but the political, religious, and human survival concepts are as heavy as ever.
Overall, considering the direction of the series as a whole, Heretics is a natural progression.
Overall, considering the direction of the series as a whole, Heretics is a natural progression.
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The world of Dune changes once again. Coming off of God Emperor into this one was sort of refreshing in a sense. This one had more action in it and a plot line that seemed to move along quicker as compared to the more philosophical passages by Leto in God Emperor which although very intriguing and interesting to read, made it feel longer and more drawn out than this one felt.
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Read in June, 2008
recommends it for:
sci-fi fans
Well... definitely not one of the best in the Dune series. Frank Herbert seems to jump around a bit too much in a few points (with no warning he assumes you will get the gist of what happened when you haven't even been clued into the idea that these things even happened). Really this book just leads into Chapterhouse: Dune, and that's all it is really good for in my opinion.
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Is it HER-etics? Or HAIR-etics? One of those words you rarely hear out loud. There's a girl who can control the worms, which are sort of like descendants od the God-Emperor. There is a super sexy clone, that's been cloned and recloned for like, ever. Oh yeah, and evil dominatixes from beyond the stars. And an army of girls called "Fish Speakers". Seriously.
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Read in July, 2007
Amazons from space enslaving the human race with Tantric sex? Really? That's the best Mr. Herbert could do?
I was intrigued by Miles Teg and Duncan Idaho and exploring the warrior aspects of this universe. No such luck.
Rushed ending really ruined it. I'd guess this and Chapterhouse: Dune were meant to be one book, but got too long.
I was intrigued by Miles Teg and Duncan Idaho and exploring the warrior aspects of this universe. No such luck.
Rushed ending really ruined it. I'd guess this and Chapterhouse: Dune were meant to be one book, but got too long.
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Read in September, 2006
Many people seem to have difficulty with this book due to the change in characters and setting. I thought it was fascinating; Herbert here depicts the world for which Paul and Leto fought to preserve, even in its troubled state. Of course, the battle for humanity isn't over, which is why this and the next book exists.
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Read in August, 2007
It's not that God-Emperor wasn't good; it just seemed like he was piecing together all these loose ideas without direct purpose. But now, in Heretics, his complex intrigue and intense purpose return with such fantastic, fluid style as layer upon layer of awesomeness is laid down. Oh, Frank: how I love you!
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Read in January, 2005
recommends it for:
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I don't remember when I started reading this book. All I remember is the first 60 pages which i can't seem to get through. The book seames to be too much of a chore and I it just dosn't grasp me as much as his other books have. Maybe one day i'll finish it just so i can move on to the "Chapterhouse" novels.
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