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The Renegades of Pern (Pern (Chronological Order) #22)
As long as the people of Pern could remember, the Holds had protected them from Thread, the deadly silver strands that fell from the sky and ravaged the land. In exchange for sanctuary in the huge stone fortresses, the people tithed to their Lord Holders, who in turn supported the Weyrs, whose dragons were Pern's greatest weapon against Thread.But not everyone on Pern was...more
Paperback, 384 pages
Published
September 10th 1997
by Del Rey
(first published 1989)
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Dude, even McCaffrey got bored with her own new (deeply boring) characters halfway through the book, chucked the whole Holdless plotlines for huge swathes, and went back to focusing on Piemur and Toric and the politics of the Southern continent. It irks my sense of order that huge chunks of the through-narrative from the original (in my mind) six books/two trilogies has to be continued here before being picked up as the A story once again in All the Weyrs of Pern again. It seems a poorly put-tog...more
Mixed feelings about this one ... for long stretches of the book McCaffrey seems to have assumed your well steeped in the Dragons of Pern series and mythos, and this book seems to "fill in" events already covered by another in the series.
So it sometimes feels like she's going through the motions and 'filling in dots' for stages of the book, and there are a lot of characters that perspective jumps between.
Having said that, things really start coming together well in the last third, set in the ne...more
So it sometimes feels like she's going through the motions and 'filling in dots' for stages of the book, and there are a lot of characters that perspective jumps between.
Having said that, things really start coming together well in the last third, set in the ne...more
This book has several interesting storylines running concurrently and the reader is not sure how they are related until about two-thirds of the way through the narrative. The timeline is approximately the same as The White Dragon.
There is Thella, formerly of Telgar Hold, who has run away and has grandiose dreams of becoming a Lady Holder in her own right. She has gathered a band of holdless men and together they are a formidable gang of bandits and raiders.
There is Jayge, a holdless trader and h...more
There is Thella, formerly of Telgar Hold, who has run away and has grandiose dreams of becoming a Lady Holder in her own right. She has gathered a band of holdless men and together they are a formidable gang of bandits and raiders.
There is Jayge, a holdless trader and h...more
Surprised by my re-read of this. I remember thinking it wasn't written well, felt rushed, and in great need of editing, but worth the read because of favorite characters and the archaeology of the Ancients' mounds on Southern. I still feel it is not in the top ranks of her books and very repetitive if you've read the main trilogy (Dragonflight, Quest, White Dragon), but if one wishes to read further into Pern's history it has some important moments. I still wonder where the editor was - there ar...more
If you're not fan of the series you're not going to like this one but if your not a fan there is no reason to pick up book ten. But given where it falls in the series this book does a very good job; after a string of prequels this book serves as refresher as to what is happening in the 'now' of the setting and does so without really repeating anything. One third of the plot follows completely new characters with little to no connection to dragons from a point in history slightly before the start...more
• This book was fantastic. One thing that A.M. has done in the past is tell the same time frame from different points of view. She does it effectively in Moreta and Nerilka, and she does it again very well here. This book is a little more far reaching. It spans much of the original trilogy and a little bit past that time frame. It also hints at much more. I also love the fact that some of it expands the story of some of the characters from some of the short stories like Aramina and K’van. I know...more
This was cool and a nice collision of sci-fi and fantasy at the end. Piemur's character developped enough (*coughthatmeansIthoughthisromanticquirksweretotallycutecough*) to make him one of my favourites, and he gives off the impression that he's supposed to be the fan-favourite so WOO. And yeah. I love how it became more clear that the dragonriders aren't perfect heroes, and even some of the renegades were human and able to be sympathised with. There was no really big, clear line of good and evi...more
Unhappy that she won't be named Lady Holder to Telgar, Lady Thella leaves to manage her own hold up in the mountains above Telgar Hold away from her brother Larad. When life is not how Lady Thella wishes it to be and becomes a renegade that steals from other's hard work for her own gain. She becomes known as Lady Holdless Thella. Jayge Lilcamp's family are traders providing goods and services to Craft, Hold, and Weyr. Jayge's father Crenden doesn't believe that Thread is going to fall soon but i...more
This Pern book took me a little longer to become 'personally' involved in, and I think that's because the characters at the beginning were not particuloarly likeable. The boy Jayge could have had more of an emphasis, and the author could have been a bit more sympathetic to him. Maybe McCaffrey didn't feel so strongly about him herself because he wasn't one of the dragonriders or harpers or those other people with that affinity to telepathy. Also, the person focused on changed quite a lot, and th...more
This book was a nice compliment to the Dragon's of Pern series. While it doesnt actually follow any...moreThis book was a nice compliment to the Dragon's of Pern series. While it doesnt actually follow any of the main dragonriders you may be used to, it does will in a lot of blanks about what is going on in Pern from different perspectives. I would never recommend this book as the first to read in the series, but It is a gret choice for after you have at least read the 3 Dragonriders of Pern boo...more
I've never thought I would give an Anne McCaffery book less than 4 stars.
But the Renegades of Pern was not what I was hoping for at all. It isn't that the writing was bad or anything - it was how much of this book was just rehashing events from other books! I could not believe how much of this novel felt borrowed or stolen from previous books.
We did gain some new knowledge of Pern & certainly a new viewpoint from another subculture, but overall this did not satisfy my desire for a completely...more
But the Renegades of Pern was not what I was hoping for at all. It isn't that the writing was bad or anything - it was how much of this book was just rehashing events from other books! I could not believe how much of this novel felt borrowed or stolen from previous books.
We did gain some new knowledge of Pern & certainly a new viewpoint from another subculture, but overall this did not satisfy my desire for a completely...more
This book follows the story of how the holdless began to systematically steal from the holders and in particular, follows Jayge (a trader) and Thella (the insufferable Lady Holdless). There's a few favorite characters sprinkled in for good measure. In particular, Piemur, always a favorite of mine. I was happy to see him play such a big role in another Pern book. I enjoyed this one a good deal and what they find in the end could begin to change these stories. For the better? I'm not sure, I'll ha...more
The first part was dreadfully boring. The new characters were dull and there were large time gaps that messed up the flow of the story.
However, the second half was better and so it did manage to redeemed itself. I think I liked it better cause the story went back to following known and enjoyable characters.
So OK overall, but I enjoyed the original Pern trilogy and the Harper Hall trilogy much more than this one.
However, the second half was better and so it did manage to redeemed itself. I think I liked it better cause the story went back to following known and enjoyable characters.
So OK overall, but I enjoyed the original Pern trilogy and the Harper Hall trilogy much more than this one.
The Renegades of Pern has two plotlines. The first is a young woman, Thella, who gathers holdless people to her and raids to prowide for them. And the other is discovering ruins in the south.
These two plots never really intertwine and as a result I never really cared about either of them.
There were too many long periods with nothing happening and when something did happen it was often without enough build-up and over oo quickly, which again meant I really didn't care.
I didn't feel like I really...more
These two plots never really intertwine and as a result I never really cared about either of them.
There were too many long periods with nothing happening and when something did happen it was often without enough build-up and over oo quickly, which again meant I really didn't care.
I didn't feel like I really...more
Anne McCaffrey seems to enjoy revisiting her stories from the points of view of minor or previously unknown characters, and as mentioned in a previous review of Nerilka's Story, this doesn't always work all that well. There's a lot going on in Renegades, but really what it is is a transition between the previously published 9th Pass books and All The Weyrs of Pern. There are a lot of people involved in the many plotlines, and all in all it's a bit confusing, even boring at times. And why did The...more
Best read after Dragonquest, The White Dragon, and The Girl Who Heard Dragons.
Lots of characters and their stories collide here. Thella, the self-styled Lady Holdless, is a delicious villain set to kidnap young Aramina, the girl who can hear dragons. Less focus on the dragonriders, harpers and holders and more on the wanderers whose place is not so assured.
Lots of characters and their stories collide here. Thella, the self-styled Lady Holdless, is a delicious villain set to kidnap young Aramina, the girl who can hear dragons. Less focus on the dragonriders, harpers and holders and more on the wanderers whose place is not so assured.
The McCaffreys have got to be my favorite science fiction authors ever. I got hooked on Pern during high school when I read the Harper Hall Trilogy, and then I went on to explore the rest of the world with Anne and Todd in the book adventures of a lifetime. I highly recommend any of the Dragonriders of Pern book series for any science fiction lover.
Jun 08, 2011
Snail in Danger (Sid) Nicolaides
rated it
2 of 5 stars
Shelves:
science-fiction,
used-to-own
I only read this because I wanted to read the immediate sequel, which I remembered with some fondness. Jayge the he-man protector of everything got kind of annoying toward the end of the book. He didn't start out that way, though. And there were some interesting looks at the social fabric of Pern.
A re-read. Dates approximate. (And probably wrong.)
A re-read. Dates approximate. (And probably wrong.)
It took a while to get into this one, simply because I was having to learn a lot of new characters, but I really liked reading this one because it spanned a time period from just before Dragonflight to just beyond The White Dragon, so it filled in some of the characters and plots that the other books just glanced over (or didn't mention at all).
I read this book at my wife's suggestion, and I have to say it was a nice detour from a lot of the biographies I tend to read. All though it falls near the middle of McCaffrey's Dragonriders line, it was an easy pickup. I will say that the very end of the novel made every single hair on my body stand on end. It's not often a book does that.
This was a great sequel in this series. It stated slow with ood evil characters that mixed with the loved characters from the rest of the series and ended with such momentum that I immediately picked up the next book in the series(All the weyrs of Pern) and kept reading. I'm not usually a fan of sci-fi mixed into my fantasy stories, but this made me think there may be something there to hold my interest.
Well, I think I have now cycled through all of the original series and now the series that make up the backstories. Very satisfying. I still think this is a wonderful coming of age story and world building that would be wonderful for teens and preteens - female, of course, but also male. I have really enjoyed revisiting Pern.
The most boring of all the books, despite the discovery of settler's secrets at the end. Half of the story lines are dropped half way through the book in favor of long passages from The White Dragon summarized from someone else's POV. Too bad it introduces new characters you need to be familiar with the for following books.
And look, I like a little outsider perspective as much as the next person. Not all the stories have to be told from the most important person's POV, but the outsiders she cho...more
And look, I like a little outsider perspective as much as the next person. Not all the stories have to be told from the most important person's POV, but the outsiders she cho...more
The one thing that I find annoying about the Dragonriders of Pern sequence is that the timeline isn't quite right! For a couple of books, there's overlap in the first three quarters, and then the story moves on in new ways. I can see why it happens, but it does make me doubt that I've got the sequence in the right order when reading!
A tale of Pern's gypsy-like Holdless culture as well as the discovery of AIVAS, the artificial intelligence system leftover at Landing. Aside from the brief introduction at the beginning about the human settlers on Pern, this was the first time this series took an actual science-fiction turn for me.
So not my favorite. Too many stories. Too much Thella. Not enough Piemur. Too much ground covered. Too much Toric. Not enough Aramina. Not enough Harpers in general. No time to get fully involved in anything. This one's a mess...but it does bring us AIVAS.
Seemed more like the author was simply taking a step back and saying okay, where are we in the storyline? Here is the summation of what is happened, and some new thoughts on where it should go.
Enjoyable, but hard to read for someone new to Pern.
Enjoyable, but hard to read for someone new to Pern.
Oh, thank goodness I'm done. This one did NOT stand up to memory. I can't believe I wasn't more annoyed at all the sexism when I first read these books. I'm now scared to reread the Harper Hall trilogy, which were always my favorites.
I may actually be able to let this one leave my bookshelves permanently now; I really doubt I'll feel the need to read it again.
I may actually be able to let this one leave my bookshelves permanently now; I really doubt I'll feel the need to read it again.
I love anne mccaffrey, but this book wasn't up to her usual standard- the characters didn't illy develop and it just didn't grab enough - it really was just filling in details from prior novels.. A miss in the awesome pern series for me...
This book comes off as a money grab more than anything. It's extremely scattered, uneven, and and an all-around poor effort.
Maybe it's not a legitimate complaint, but if the reader hasn't read the first few books in the series, he/she will have absolutely no idea what's going on in some places.
Maybe it's not a legitimate complaint, but if the reader hasn't read the first few books in the series, he/she will have absolutely no idea what's going on in some places.
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Anne McCaffrey was born on April 1st, 1926, in Cambridge, Massachusetts, at 1:30 p.m., in the hour of the Sheep, year of the Fire Tiger, sun sign Aries with Taurus rising and Leo mid-heaven (which seems to suggest an early interest in the stars).
Her parents were George Herbert McCaffrey, BA, MA PhD (Harvard), Colonel USA Army (retired), and Anne Dorothy McElroy McCaffrey, estate agent. She had two...more
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Her parents were George Herbert McCaffrey, BA, MA PhD (Harvard), Colonel USA Army (retired), and Anne Dorothy McElroy McCaffrey, estate agent. She had two...more
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