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Warrior Prophet (The Prince of Nothing #2)

3.94  ·  Rating Details  ·  8,880 Ratings  ·  199 Reviews
The first battle against the heathen has been won, but while the Great Names plot and squabble over the spoils, Kellhus patiently extends his influence, drawing more followers to his banner. The sorcerer Achamian and his lover, Esmenet, submit entirely, only to have their faith tested in unimaginable ways. The warrior Cnaiur falls ever deeper into madness. The skin-spies o ...more
Paperback, First edition, 610 pages
Published June 18th 2004 by Penguin Canada
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RogueHireling
Jul 07, 2009 RogueHireling rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
I should probably make a shelf named "Abandoned" because thats what this book is ending up as. I made it about half way and just cant bring myself to pick it up anymore.

To call this a painful read is an understatement! I would give it negative stars if I could. Every single character in the story has been reduced to completely despicable stereotypes, leaving not a single likable thing about the story untouched.

As the rest of the storyline is about the atrocities of marching an army from point a
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Tammy
Apr 10, 2016 Tammy rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: favorites
Scott Bakker is officially one of my favorite authors.
This book was awesome from the start and only got better. The characters have been introduced in the first book, we know their back story, we know them...and now they're all together. One thing I love about this book is how characters CHANGE due to their circumstances. Characters who've felt betrayal so strong they just die inside, characters that literally go mad.
I'm not a fast reader but I read the first one in 7 days n this in 10. The ta
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Artemas
This book delivered what The Darkness that Comes Before promised. Outlandish names for the various characters/sects/regions make more sense here and, as a result, the story feels more refined and seamless. In this second installment of the Prince of Nothing series, Bakker offers the reader fantastic scenes of action and depravity while continuing to weave plots through his interesting characters.

Many of the hardships which the army faces remind me of similar situations during Steven Erikson’s Ma
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Luke Burrage
Second time through, and as an audiobook, I enjoyed more than the first time.

I think it's better than the first book too. However, like Empire Strikes Back and Star Wars, or even the first two Hunger Games movies, the second can only be better due to building on the first. Building on the story and characters.

Kellhus is fucking terrifying. Probably one of the best villains in any fantasy book I've read. Also, weirdly, one of the best heroes.

Full review on my podcast, SFBRP episode #269.
Yasiru (reviews will soon be removed and linked to blog)
Many threads of the previous entry to the series were brought together at its conclusion, and this volume continues this rather original story with a more unified and committed spirit. It may be exactly because it was more straightforward and linear that I found The Warrior Prophet somewhat simplistic compared to The Darkness that Comes Before. Certainly other problems in the volume were compounded by the approach and came across too keenly.

The battles are up to par and I continue to enjoy the w
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Pietro
This second volume of the "Prince of Nothing" trilogy is weaker than the first under every aspect.

First of all, the plot fails to build upon the excellent foundations set in "The Darkness that comes before" resulting unmemorable and entirely predictable.
If you've read the first volume then you already know everything that's going to happen here.

Second, the atmosphere.
Remember that awesome feel of brooding darkness with unseen demonic threats in the first book? GOOD! Hold tight to that memory
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BookBandit
Jan 09, 2014 BookBandit rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
I'll keep this short since I am moving right on to book 3. I dinged the 1st book a little because it took awhile for the story to gel together/get going (but once it did, it did so nicely). The Warrior Prophet picks up right where the first book left off and it is a great story cover to cover. If you liked the 1st book, this book continues a great story. If you haven't read the 1st book yet, this book is 1 more reason to start this trilogy.
Michael
Oct 19, 2009 Michael rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
In my review for The Darkness That Comes Before, I mentioned that the book was mostly spent setting the scene for the holy war that was about to begin. In The Warrior-Prophet, the war is very much underway. The book follows the progression of the army through all sorts of terrains and and all sorts of horrific setbacks.

There's a LOT of violence. Bakker's method of writing the war scenes is reminiscent of The Illiad: he is clearly trying to capture all of the important events, such as the succes
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agata
Nov 01, 2015 agata rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: fans of fantasy who want to explore psychological and philosophical questions
Recommended to agata by: Jasper
Shelves: reviewed, szafa
Everything I said about the first book in the series applies also to the second volume in this triology.

And while it's still all about human psychology Bakker furthers here his exploration with a new theme: Transformation.

In the first volume we met our main protagonists and were introduced to the psychological - and sometimes philosophical - questions they pose. The second volume tells us the story of a transformative event: The Holy War itself.

The Holy War brings agony and pain. It's torture.

An
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Daniel Roy
Oct 11, 2013 Daniel Roy rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: fantasy, sf
The sequel to The Darkness That Comes Before comes swinging out of the gate, but it spends its creative energies pretty fast. The novel does deliver on the promise of the first book: we get to see the Holy War well under way, and the result is pretty exciting. But most of the story is spent taking characters in unsatisfying directions. The writing is still pretty solid, although Bakker really needs to cut back on his usage of the adverb "fairly."

The biggest problem I had with the story here is K
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Noel Thingvall
Feb 18, 2011 Noel Thingvall rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
PROS: Every bit as meticulous, challenging, and absorbing as the first volume. The heart of this story is a Holy War, and I love the honest depiction of just how hard it is to assemble various factions and their sub factions and their sub factions and vaguely shove them in the direction of your enemy with the hopes that too many of your own villages won't get plundered before they read the destination. Magic fully comes into play and is a rich and complicate mixture of mathematics and philosophy ...more
Robert
Feb 16, 2009 Robert rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
What Bakker began in "The Darkness That Comes Before," he continues to excellent effect in "The Warrior Prophet." I can't imagine a book better tailored to my current tastes and needs, bringing together the strengths of some of my more cherished authors -- Umberto Eco's genius at illuminating history, the dark imagination of a Clark Ashton Smith and Michael Shea's gift for language -- delivered with economic plotting and gifted character craft that allows for very little wasted motion. The book ...more
Jason
May 09, 2015 Jason rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: e-books, reread, read-2015
5 Stars

This is my reread through book two in The Prince of Nothing series by R. Scott Bakker. The Warrior Prophet was nearly impossible to put down again...Where book one excelled in the dialogue and the philosophy behind the story. This one is an action gem. Our two main heroes are front and center through out this intelligent fantasy. Akka follows his beliefs and his man Kellhus. The journey is vast and the action is intense.

Kellhus becomes entwined with Cnaiür a tribe chief with revenge on
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Jurgen_i
Nov 09, 2010 Jurgen_i rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
I put to the first book 5 points. The Warrior Prophet is also good, sometimes great. But i put only 1 point. Scott Bakker sought to spoil the book with much efforts. A tricky job. I don't know, why.

N.B. This review doesn't contain spoilers, since the main spoiler is the author. The plot is based on events of the first crusade, which ended with crusaders' victory and capture of the holy city. Look at the content: first march, second march, third march. Now you know, holy army won't be defeated un
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Gamma Mouse
May 12, 2011 Gamma Mouse rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
There weren’t enough superlatives to describe the brilliance of R. Scott Bakker’s first volume in “The Prince of Nothing” trilogy, “The Darkness That Comes Before”. After such an astounding debut, I wondered if the second volume could match the intellectual depth and overall intensity of the first book. Well, “The Warrior-Prophet” more than lives up to the lofty standards set by the previous book, providing one of my favorite fantasy reading experiences ever.

Reading Bakker’s work is like being d
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Bryan
Jun 20, 2013 Bryan rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
I liked this book better than the first one. I felt extremely engaged by what was happening to Achamian, Cnaiur, and even Xinemus, while in The Darkness That Comes Before I didn't feel too connected to any of the male characters. Unfortunately, the female characters, although still interesting, were somewhat less interesting than they were in the first book, which I found to be a shame. I did, however, feel that Bakker showed the women to be believable people who had well-defined and individual ...more
Ben
Jun 14, 2013 Ben rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: fantasy-noir
This is an odd one. On the one hand, I want to give this at least three stars for for writing style and an interesting and deep world with a well thought out background. On the other, I want to give this a one star for essentially a rather boring follow up to the much more promising The Darkness That Comes Before, and an excessive amount of rape and generally unpleasant sex scenes.

Bakker's writing is easy to read and flows well, while at the same time being sophisticated and interesting and very
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Tamsin Barlow
They should actually have a catagory called "Abandoned." After reading nearly 300 pages of this book, which is the 2nd in the series, I ditched it in frustration. So I think my opinion should have some credibility since I paid my dues an really gave it the old college try. Once again the writer falls under the misapprehension that his writing is too good to edit one single word out. Far too many characters (42 major ones) and just plain silly (and not in the amusing way). Bits of brilliance, but ...more
Ryan
Aug 31, 2013 Ryan rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
I hope the "bad guys" win because this world needs to end. Of the major Characters only Achamian has any real redeeming qualities. Basically I hope that GRRM writes the third book and kills everybody off.
Akshar
Oct 14, 2015 Akshar rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: fantasy
I want to give this 3.5 but Goodreads refuses to update it's rating system. This book didn't fail, but it was definitely not as good as it's predecessor, The Darkness That Comes Before.

My main issue is that, while I believe The Logos has some power, it is too overpowered. There is a limit to what you can do with logic. I guess that seeing as the events of this book seemed to take over a year, it makes sense that Kellhus using the Logos, could have achieved SOME power. But not as much as he does
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Matt
Feb 16, 2015 Matt rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
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Bbrown
Mar 31, 2014 Bbrown rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
Despite a promising beginning, this series botched the characters, plot, and story structure so badly that it isn't worth reading. Whether you're looking for good writing and deeper meaning or just an entertaining fantasy story, you'll find neither here.

Let's start with story structure: despite ostensibly being a series, none of the three books here stand by themselves, instead each abruptly ends and then immediately starts up again in the next volume. Thus, The Prince of Nothing is a single boo
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David
Oct 20, 2010 David rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: fantasy
This is an EPIC fantasy book. The whole series is sweeping and impressive in its scope. Bakker writes battle scenes as a general might, focusing not only on the characters that we know, but also on the movements of the armies and the strategy that leads to their ultimate victory or defeat.

The first book was dark and gritty, but in this volume Bakker really dwells on the horrors of war (and since the entire 600 pages follows a holy war, there are plenty of them). This is definitely not a series
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GY
Mar 10, 2013 GY rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
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Bruce
Jul 14, 2013 Bruce rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
It's apparent that Bakker matured greatly as a writer over the course of The Warrior Prophet. Many of the weak points from The Darkness that Comes Before (TDTCB) were not just improved upon, but were made strengths in this book. Most important are the major characters, whose motivations, fears and passions are explored in much greater depth. By the end, I found that I understood, appreciated and yes, even liked them much more than I had in TDTCB. Additionally, the philosophical musings from TDTC ...more
Neil Pearson
Aug 07, 2011 Neil Pearson rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Bakker continues to redefine the standard for dark AND intelligent fantasy.
This book focuses a lot more on Kellhus and we get to see just how powerful the Dunyain are. We also discover just how selfish the Dunyain can be too. The holy war is depicted with brutal honesty and it is clear there are no "good guys" present. The battles are some of the best I have read in describing large-scale action and the magic/monsters are filled with awe and horror. I also like how Bakker keeps the "larger batt
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Patrick St-Denis
Apr 24, 2016 Patrick St-Denis rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
The long-awaited (and what should have been the final installment in The Aspect-Emperor trilogy, but has since then been split into two volumes) The Great Ordeal by R. Scott Bakker will finally be released this summer. It's been five years since The White-Luck Warrior, the second volume, saw the light, so you can understand why Bakker fans are rejoicing. Problem is, it's been a very long time in between books. And for a midlist genre author, one that never was marketed much by his publishers to ...more
Marissa
Oct 29, 2015 Marissa rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
You know how many authors & their series redeem themselves by the 2nd book? They start out kinda shaky, then by the second, they've figured out how to Write a Novel?
Well. Not so. I'm sorry, I really would love to love this series, because, what the hell, magic, sorcerors, prophecies, maybe some dragons...! But instead I feel like I'm reading the fantasy equivalent of Clan of the Cave Bear, featuring lots and lots and LOTS of rape. Remember how in the first book there were 2 female characters
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VII
Nov 18, 2014 VII rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
At times I was wondering why do I read fantasy books when I hate descriptions, and when I really hate descriptions of battles. Just tell me who won!

But even though the books are describing basically a huge war, the main characters remain interesting. The last ~100 pages (minus the last 10) were so exciting. I couldn't wait to find out what will happen.

Still 3 stars though. Maybe 3,5. Too long, not exactly fast paced and read just to pass the time. The ending made me consider reading the next on
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London
May 14, 2014 London rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: fantasy
Like the first book of the series, the Warrior Prophet has a compelling plot and enough political intrigue to keep on reading. Unfortunately, the superhuman aspects of the titular Warrior Prophet become more and more annoying as the book goes on. Shorn of this psuedo-philosophical nitwit with the ability to perfectly manipulate any situation, this would have been a fine book. Maybe some problems with overly stereotypical characters, but some strong POV characters. But Kellhus, how I loathe you.
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Richard Scott Bakker, who writes as R. Scott Bakker and as Scott Bakker, is a novelist whose work is dominated by a large series informally known as the The Second Apocalypse which Bakker began developing whilst as college in the 1980s. The series was originally planned to be a trilogy, with the first two books entitled The Prince of Nothing and The Aspect-Emperor. However, when Bakker began writi ...more
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