Troilus and Cressida
The Arden Shakespeare is the established scholarly edition of Shakespeare's plays. Now in its third series, Arden offers the best in contemporary scholarship. Each volume guides you to a deeper understanding and appreciation of Shakespeare's work.
Paperback, 135 pages
Published
March 3rd 1988
by Washington Square Press
(first published 1602)
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It’s a timeless story, really: sensitive young guy gets carried away by the noble delirium of first love and goes all mushy over the dirty ho who punched his v-card. Complications ensue.
If you think my synopsis sounds crude, all I can say is, don’t read Troilus and Cressida, because it gets a whole lot cruder than that. For sheer nastiness, it’s right up there with that other Shakespearean shocker, Titus Andronicus (though without the multiple amputations and cannibalism). Taking over the creaki...more
If you think my synopsis sounds crude, all I can say is, don’t read Troilus and Cressida, because it gets a whole lot cruder than that. For sheer nastiness, it’s right up there with that other Shakespearean shocker, Titus Andronicus (though without the multiple amputations and cannibalism). Taking over the creaki...more
Aug 05, 2012
matt
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3 of 5 stars
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So pretty much everything Mr. Buck Mulligan writes in his review is spot-on. I wanted to say much of the same things as he does but he does it quite elegantly and probingly and thus you out there in Goodreads-land who are reading this would be well advised to check his review out...not to mention his other ones, for that matter. He on point, kid.
A couple of things I'd like to point out just for the hell of it...
Prelude:
People who don't dig on the classics (except in THEORY or cultural capital...more
Apr 24, 2011
Bill Kerwin
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4 of 5 stars
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When I was young and naive, I loved "Troilus and Cressida" for its brave cynicism, but now that I am older--and my outlook is bleaker--I appreciate it for its realism and compassion. Shakespeare shows us a world in which lovers try to be true and warriors strive to be brave, but both inevitably fail, betrayed by human nature and the adventitious provocations of time. Here, as in "Romeo and Juliet," passion and violence are inextricably linked. Indeed, this later play often seems to be a dark par...more
So a lot of people seem to think this is really boring and difficult. I'll give them the second one, but boring? This tale of a tangential "romance" (if you can call it that) to the Trojan War is rife with all kinds of awesome feats du language (oh yeah, I wrote that) and lots of tiny but cool moments, as various celebrated heroes find themselves unable to escape the narratives we know them for, despite their (and Shakespeare's) best efforts. From the rather peaceful, almost wistful beginning to...more
“She is a pearl, whose price hath launch'd above a thousand ships.”
The story of the Trojan War and the beautiful Helen is well-known, but this Shakespearean tragedy about it is not. Troilus and Cressida is the story of two young Trojans caught in the midst of a nation at war. Despite being surrounded by the problems of others they find themselves falling in love. Troilus is the brother of the infamous warrior Hector and the lovesick Paris who ran away with the married Helen, incurring the wrath...more
The story of the Trojan War and the beautiful Helen is well-known, but this Shakespearean tragedy about it is not. Troilus and Cressida is the story of two young Trojans caught in the midst of a nation at war. Despite being surrounded by the problems of others they find themselves falling in love. Troilus is the brother of the infamous warrior Hector and the lovesick Paris who ran away with the married Helen, incurring the wrath...more
This is a case in which a 2.5-star rating would have been useful. It feels to me like Shakespeare must have viewed this play as an interesting writing exercise, but not something worthy of his full attention. Perhaps someone in the Lord Chamberlain's Men thought a play based on the Trojan War would be fun. Maybe he just wanted to test himself against Chaucer. Regardless, he created a work that has its pleasure, but doesn't compare favorably to the other plays he wrote around the same time.
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Ordinarily I wouldn't reread a book or play, even one I read for class, so soon after reading it for the first time, but with Shakespeare (and indeed Chaucer) I think it's necessary. Plus, this edition came with notes, which are very extensive and -- even though I need no help with the language in general -- help to shed light on puns, double entendres, and potential confused transmission of the plays, etc. It has an extensive introduction which covers a lot of different aspects of the play, too...more
This is the last text, chronologically, in the class I read it for, but it was the easiest to get hold of. I actually read a version with no notes or glosses, so it'll probably be interesting to go through an annotated version. Obviously I was aware of the story on the Trojan War -- unavoidable when you take Classics for GCSE and A Level -- but I didn't know much about this one.
People are right to categorise this as a 'problem play'. It generally doesn't work to try and put things into hard and...more
People are right to categorise this as a 'problem play'. It generally doesn't work to try and put things into hard and...more
When I was working on my master's in composition & rhetoric, I took several classes in Shakespeare just for fun. This was one of the plays I studied then (circa 1989). I remember that it had soldiers, politicians, a lecherous uncle, and a really messed up pair of lovers. Well, our local Shakeseare theatre troup is performing this play this month, so I decided to revisit it.
Yes, my memory was accurate but very scant. This play is set during key events in The Trojan War, specifically, the bat...more
Yes, my memory was accurate but very scant. This play is set during key events in The Trojan War, specifically, the bat...more
Troilus and Cressida is a half-baked play. By that I mean that it reads like the conflation of two distinct plots tied together by the common character of Troilus. This is not to say it isn’t a rather good play but it’s not a successful one. I've read it twice now and watched the BBC adaptation, and it grows on you. There are several powerful monologues and scenes where the dialog crackles but in the final analysis it remains "clunky" and its parts difficult to reconcile. As to the reasons why,...more
Shakespeare and Chaucer both wrote about Troilus and Cressida but for very different themes. Chaucer’s poem took the disillusioned and heartbroken boy warrior and focused on the absurdity of human endeavors. For Chaucer, love is fleeting except the love one gives and receives from God.
Shakespeare, on the other hand, wants us to wallow in worthlessness. Unlike Chaucer, who was more forgiving of Cressida in portraying her betrayal as more a resignation in response to her situation, Shakespeare gle...more
Shakespeare, on the other hand, wants us to wallow in worthlessness. Unlike Chaucer, who was more forgiving of Cressida in portraying her betrayal as more a resignation in response to her situation, Shakespeare gle...more
Why have they stopped making silent film adaptations of Shakespeare's plays? Surely it was a terrific idea... And it's what Shakespeare would have wanted -- as Troilus put it*: "Words, words, mere words, no matter from the heart." Who needs words? Allow me, please, to remake Shakespeare's splendid Troilus and Cressida in silent movie fashion. I wouldn't need any "mere words" and I wouldn't need but thirty seconds and this is how it would go:
A parade, with all the noble combatants of the Trojan...more
A parade, with all the noble combatants of the Trojan...more
Not my favorite Shakespeare, though, not my least favorite either. The story is set during the Greek/Trojan war, after Helen has been taken and just before Hector's death. The big names are all present in the play and generally have a scene if not more, but the main story is about Troilus (a younger brother of Hector and Paris) and Cressida (the daughter of one of the Greek lords, but who starts the play with the Trojans in the care of her uncle).
The begining totally feels like a Romeo/Juliet s
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I'm relatively okay with reading Shakespeare's works, I know their classics and the famous screen writer was very talented with the english language, but Troilus and Cressida just didn't capture me as some of his other stories had. I wasn't to interested as I struggled to read the story, the obvious star-crossed lovers tragedy plot of many of Shakespeare's plays apparant from the beginning of the story and the placement of the plot in good old Troy made it no more entertaining to me. What I did...more
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Shakespeare is Shakespeare--how do you give the guy less than five stars? Well, like all reviews it has to come down to personal preference and evaluation against other work by the same author. As far as that goes, Troilus and Cressida is not his most famous work, nor perhaps should it be--but that is not to say that it is a failure.
Troilus and Cressida is Shakespeare's take on the Trojan War, and my own sensibilities run towards greatly preferring The Iliad. It is not a love story, or if it is...more
Troilus and Cressida is Shakespeare's take on the Trojan War, and my own sensibilities run towards greatly preferring The Iliad. It is not a love story, or if it is...more
A tragic romance set during the Trojan War, dealing with love, betrayal, homosexuality and heartbreak. It has some fine moments: Cressida's monologue at the end of Act I, Scene II ("Things won are done; joy's soul lies in the doing. That she beloved knows nought that knows not this: Men prize the thing ungain'd more than it is. . . ."); the dialogue between the young lovers, Troilus and Cressida in Act III, Scene II, and; of course, Thersites' words against Cressida at the end of Act V, Scene II...more
I've read all of Shakespeare's tragedies and "Troilus and Cressida" is definitely my least favorite by far. Set during the seventh year of the Trojan War, the play sprinkles a little bit of everything from romance to battle, but mostly focuses on people taunting each other. Much of action happens off-stage in the fifth act, as the actors dash on stage to mutter a few taunts and then leap off to fight with their swords. (As written anyway... I've never seen it performed.)
Overall, I felt that Shak...more
Overall, I felt that Shak...more
Aug 02, 2012
Kristin
rated it
3 of 5 stars
Recommends it for:
People who are not turned off by Shakespeare's problem plays
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Okay - this one was a bit more difficult of me to understand - not because it's typically defined as one of Shakespeare's so-called "problem plays" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakespe...) where critics have had a problem putting into the 'correct category (i.e. tragedy, comedy, etc.). "This is a love story, but it isn't. It's a heroic history, but it is hardly heroic... That each character seems to speak in his or her own genre - and that each of these genres, except perhaps Thersites', is un...more
Started out an unwilling reader because I found Thersites so annoying and Troilus ridiculous. It seemed Shakespeare's pen was possessed and he threw out unbelievable bawdy dialogue just to write it, or included overly ridiculous situations of people who lived by emotions that changed with the wind. Then I read Ulysses' speech to Nestor and Agamemnon in Act II and was completely seduced...love love. In fact, I know think Thersites was the only man in the play who really had a grip on the ridiculo...more
I have decided that Troilus and Cressida is the 17th century equivalent of HBO costume dramas, it's all dazzling costumes (even the Prologue is dressed up), political intrigues (see Agamemnon, Odysseus, Nestor et co), lots of sex (Achilles sulks because he doesn't want to leave his private tent where he lives alone with his boyfriend Patroclus to live in the communal tents again, I mean, come oooonnnnnnnnnnn), unexpectedly strong language (oh thou toadstool! thou scurvy ass!) and lots of gore an...more
Mar 21, 2012
Pippi Bluestocking
rated it
2 of 5 stars
Recommends it for:
only shakespeare lovers and lit students
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I never thought I'd find a Shakespearean work mediocre but here it is. It seemed poorly structured and incomplete. Yes, I can think of many reasons why Cressida was not the total whore she might look like, but I'll somehow feel like a dupe who tries to justify Bill while he clearly messed up, both in writing and in his always subtle characters - even though they occasionally are orientalist, colonialist, misogynist and antisemitic. He always kept a balance which this play lacks and for the love...more
It's so difficult to rate this! I can definitely see why it earns the label 'problem play,' but it's also Shakespeare, so there is SO MUCH food for thought. Discussing it in class was so much fun that I probably added another star just for that. Shakespeare is amazing, so even in his weaker plays, like this one, there is a lot to love (especially if you happen to be a huge nerd, like me).
Tonally, the play is a mess, and classifying it as one genre is well-nigh impossible. My top two genre conte...more
Tonally, the play is a mess, and classifying it as one genre is well-nigh impossible. My top two genre conte...more
Bill has another clunker here. Much like The Two Gentlemen of Verona the characters (and there are buckets of them) inexplicably change their minds for now apparent reason. Cressida, though not necessarily a slut, sees another boy at the sock hop and immediately seems to forget that she was just making out with Troilus underneath the bleachers.
The love story seems secondary the posturing of Hector, the Trojan warrior, and the various Greek challengers. I was not able to form an alliance with an...more
The love story seems secondary the posturing of Hector, the Trojan warrior, and the various Greek challengers. I was not able to form an alliance with an...more
Oct 03, 2010
Abe Goolsby
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4 of 5 stars
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Dang, I should have had more sense than to check out two of the Bard's "problem plays" back to back. (I listened to this right on the heels of All's Well That Ends Well, which definitely earns that monicker about equally with this one.) Though among the more perplexing and least satisfying of his efforts considered overall, it's still Shakespeare, which means more than a few gems to latch on to. Ulysses' beguiling lecture to Achilles regarding the fleeting nature of fortune and fame in Act III,...more
More than any other author, I never like finding fault with Shakespeare, even though with certain far from perfect plays of his, it isn't all that difficult. Well, this was one of those plays. It's Shakespeare, yes, but a flawed one.
"Troilus and Cressida" is about a young man, Troilus, and his lover, Cressida. Set during the Trojan War, among other characters are the recognizable Achilles, Hector, Helen, Paris, and others.
However, the main character's love story never seems very convincing. Troi...more
"Troilus and Cressida" is about a young man, Troilus, and his lover, Cressida. Set during the Trojan War, among other characters are the recognizable Achilles, Hector, Helen, Paris, and others.
However, the main character's love story never seems very convincing. Troi...more
This is one of Shakespeare's problem plays, meaning it doesn't fit neatly into the category of tragedy or comedy, but occupies its own hybrid niche. "Black comedy" or "scathing satire" would probably be a fairly apt description for this outing. It's actually a lot of fun to read, especially if you like humor flavored with a heavy dose of cynicism.
The "romantic" leads of the play's title, Troilus and Cressida, are no Romeo and Juliet. Not even by a long shot. Troilus is a superficial lad, concer...more
The "romantic" leads of the play's title, Troilus and Cressida, are no Romeo and Juliet. Not even by a long shot. Troilus is a superficial lad, concer...more
This is one of Shakespeare's stranger plays, and though the characters of the title do play a role in the play albeit it is a quite minor one. The play is set during the Trojan War and basically follows the plot of the Illiad, though Shakespeare adds some quite comic twists to the main characters.
Troilus and Cressida are two Trojans who are in love, but Cressida is given over to the Greeks in exchange for a prisoner. Troilus then sneaks into the Greek camp to discover that his beloved is flirt...more
Troilus and Cressida are two Trojans who are in love, but Cressida is given over to the Greeks in exchange for a prisoner. Troilus then sneaks into the Greek camp to discover that his beloved is flirt...more
Am I dumb because I didn't pick up on the nihilistic/relativistic thing? I keep hearing that's what this is about, but I frankly don't see any textual evidence of this (or any evidence of the relativity of values outside of the text).
The story is great; it's an impressive intertwining of big forces (war, diplomacy) and domestic ones, something which many have tried to do but few have succeeded. I hear people complain that the two plots -- the war plot and the love plot -- don't fit together; thi...more
The story is great; it's an impressive intertwining of big forces (war, diplomacy) and domestic ones, something which many have tried to do but few have succeeded. I hear people complain that the two plots -- the war plot and the love plot -- don't fit together; thi...more
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William Shakespeare (baptised 26 April 1564) was an English poet and playwright, widely regarded as the greatest writer in the English language and the world's pre-eminent dramatist. He is often called England's national poet and the "Bard of Avon" (or simply "The Bard"). His surviving works consist of 38 plays, 154 sonnets, two long narrative poems, and several other poems. His plays have been tr...more
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