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The Men Who Stare at Goats
by
Jon Ronson
In 1979 a secret unit was established by the most gifted minds within the U.S. Army. Defying all known accepted military practice -- and indeed, the laws of physics -- they believed that a soldier could adopt a cloak of invisibility, pass cleanly through walls, and, perhaps most chillingly, kill goats just by staring at them.
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Paperback, 272 pages
Published
April 4th 2006
by Simon & Schuster
(first published 2004)
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during the cold war the cia was engaged in some strange strange shit -- psychic spies and remote viewings and lots more: agents staring at goats all day long trying to make their hearts explode (some of the higher ups claim to have seen it happen), agents (with badly scuffed noses and foreheads) trying to walk through walls, dosing people with lsd, playing music with subliminal messages, entering the bad guy's lair while cradling a baby lamb in one's arms as a means to overpower the enemy with s...more
After watching the movie version of The Men Who Stare At Goats, I figured that there must be a kernel of truth to it coated with several layers of Hollywood bullshit so I read the book to get an idea of what the real story was. I thought I’d get a funny story about some stupid things the military did once upon a time. Instead, the book turns into a template for starting conspiracy theories that really pissed me off.
Oddly enough, the really weird stuff that happened in the film version is the stu...more
Oddly enough, the really weird stuff that happened in the film version is the stu...more
May 31, 2011
Petra X
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Its hard to know what to say about this book as its a light-hearted, somewhat mocking look at the various always-nefarious schemes of the American Military, or at least of some of the specialised recherche departments of Intelligence. However, the subject is deadly serious and what seems funny on the surface - bombarding Iraqi prisoners with an endless loop of the Barney song, 14,000 renditions over three days - really isn't when you consider that this 'information' was probably released deliber...more
I hardly ever read non-fiction, I don't know why. I often enjoy non-fiction more than fiction. Maybe it's because I *write* fiction myself. I do occasionally read history books, but rarely cover to cover. This one is an exception: but it's not just history, it's also investigative journalism of the highest calibre.
This astonishing book tells the recent history of US Military psychic warfare, a very shady area that overlaps with PsyOps (psychological warfare), Black Ops (secret assassination squa...more
This astonishing book tells the recent history of US Military psychic warfare, a very shady area that overlaps with PsyOps (psychological warfare), Black Ops (secret assassination squa...more
So here's my problem with this book. The author manages to string together a long series of random tidbits in what appears to be a coherent manner, but ultimately there was no point to anything we as readers have learned. "Hey everyone, look at all of the weird things our armed forces experimented with during the war on terror! They played a Barney song over and over! They played a Sesame Street song and the composer tried to sue for royalties! Maybe the CIA killed someone once or maybe they gav...more
I had this book on my radar because of a review I saw soon after it came out, long before they made the movie. But I saw the movie before I got around to buying the book. I liked the movie a lot; it made me laugh.
[later] I felt compelled to do some research while reading this book. I looked at Jim Channon's and Lyn Buchanan's websites; got Google pages full of results for "remote viewing", "PsyOps", and other terms and people; and saw that Amazon sells copies of Lyn Buchanan's and Joe McMoneagle...more
[later] I felt compelled to do some research while reading this book. I looked at Jim Channon's and Lyn Buchanan's websites; got Google pages full of results for "remote viewing", "PsyOps", and other terms and people; and saw that Amazon sells copies of Lyn Buchanan's and Joe McMoneagle...more
Jon Ronson looks at army intelligence experiments in psychic phenomena. One of these experiments, refered to in the title, was to try to kill goats by concentrating on them, real hard. Ironically, much of this stuff had its origins in the army's post-Vietnam funk, when esprit de corps was at its lowest ebb. A young colonel convinced his chain of command to allow him to study hippy philosophy as a potentially new ethic for a revived Army. All that came of this was a field manual for something cal...more
The subject matter of this book is fascinating. It explores the US military's research into decidedly strange fighting and reconaissance techniques: psychic warfare (as in, soldiers using psychic powers to stop the enemy in its tracks), remote viewing, you name it. It starts out fairly lighthearted: look at what happens when you give some whackadoos in the government money to try to walk through walls! There's a serious side to it, though; out of some of the same minds that came up with the more...more
You cannot accuse Jon Ronson of being dull, that’s for sure. His books consistently shed light on the fringe elements of society, be it psychopaths, Icke-followers, or the psychic soldiers depicted here. And he treats the subjects of his investigations with respect and a refreshing open-mindedness, regardless of how nutty the fruitcakes therein may be. But, in the case of The Men Who Stare At Goats, there’s a lack of cohesion to the final product. I enjoyed this book, but I’m not sure what point...more
This is such a difficult topic to research that I'm not sure anyone can really write the book he wants to write on the subject, and what Ronson settles for is a highly impressionistic, meandering (i.e. organized around the narrative of his investigations and discoveries) but nonetheless trenchant and informative look at the sillier--which shades into scarier--side of secret intelligence work. Beginning with an investigation into experiments in lethal telekinesis by military intelligence (hence t...more
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Ronson is a good Gonzo journalist and in this book shows how he stumbled from one absurdity onto the next in search of, indeed, the men who stare at goats (and try to kill them by doing so). It would be hilarious if it weren't for real.
The men in question are US military secret ops, PsyOps, if you will, who, starting in the early 1980s tried out some radical stuff. They started with trying to stare de-bleated goats to death, remote sensing of general Noriega's where abouts and such but this lat...more
The men in question are US military secret ops, PsyOps, if you will, who, starting in the early 1980s tried out some radical stuff. They started with trying to stare de-bleated goats to death, remote sensing of general Noriega's where abouts and such but this lat...more
Jon Ronson gives a very superficial report of efforts to introduce psychics into the US military in his 2004 book (reprinted in 2009), The Men Who Stare at Goats. Unfortunately, Ronson never bothers to do any serious research on the individuals claiming psychic powers or their connections to the antiwar movement. The end result is a book that is riddled with errors.
General Albert Stubblebine, as director of US Army INSCOM, conducted psychic research that supposedly proved the existence of psychi...more
General Albert Stubblebine, as director of US Army INSCOM, conducted psychic research that supposedly proved the existence of psychi...more
This one is a strange book. It starts rather funny - I mean is there something more weird than director of ultra secret military agency trying to run through a wall or taking bended metal fork in the meeting and saying to his commander "Do you want me to demonstrate how I did this?"? And then that same commander saying "That wold be inappropriate!" not because he means that it is truly inappropriate to bend forks during supper in expensive restaurant but because he takes his inspiration from the...more
This book was so bizarre that I though he had to have made the whole thing up. Then there would be a reference to something that had made it to the news and I'd see the whole thing in an entirely different perspective. The suspension of disbelieve is less in the idea that these psychic occurrences were real, than that the people involved believed they were real. Given the historical context of the Earth First Battalion and the confusion in the war on terror and the bizarre stories that came out...more
The Men Who Stare At Goats by Jon Ronson was another of Nick Hornby's suggestions from his excellent collection of columns on books he has bought and read, The Polysyllabic Spree. I saw it on sale at a book store not long ago and picked it up. It started out a little slow for me as it stated chronicling The First Earth battalion, which was created in order to get ideas form people thinking out of the box. This included outlandish experiments like trying to kill goats by staring at them to make t...more
This book worked hard to earn, decisively, its crop of zero stars.
It is about what supposedly happens when new age super-abilities (flying, invisibility, the power to stop a goat's heart by staring at it...) meet the oh-so-impressive military mind.
Since the military exists to destroy people and property, guess what they experiment with in attempts to gain these powers and apply them?
Alledgedly.
All kinds of names, dates, people and conversational bits are used to 'verify' the wildly gyrating con...more
It is about what supposedly happens when new age super-abilities (flying, invisibility, the power to stop a goat's heart by staring at it...) meet the oh-so-impressive military mind.
Since the military exists to destroy people and property, guess what they experiment with in attempts to gain these powers and apply them?
Alledgedly.
All kinds of names, dates, people and conversational bits are used to 'verify' the wildly gyrating con...more
I saw the film before I read the book, and took heed of those who said the book was nothing like the movie version. Whilst this is true, it also is very similar.
I feel as though when someone decided to make this into a film they realised that there were way too many characters in the book, and narrowed them down to make it easier to watch. There’s no story in the book, it is simply a navigation through research by Jon.
So, to the content itself. I love the stuff about goats and the walking throug...more
I feel as though when someone decided to make this into a film they realised that there were way too many characters in the book, and narrowed them down to make it easier to watch. There’s no story in the book, it is simply a navigation through research by Jon.
So, to the content itself. I love the stuff about goats and the walking throug...more
I bought this book simply because of the title and am so glad I did. It starts of quite benignly but then lurches into the very dark heart of the law of unintended consequences. On the surface it's about kooky american attempts to harness the occult and psychic powers for military aims but it gets darker once the lessons first applied by the so-called First Earth Battalion shift from harmless (unless you are a goat) to outright spooky. The chapter where Ronson interviews the writers of the Barne...more
The Men Who Stare at Goats is a 'mockumentry' claiming to expose the exploits of the American Government's attempts to ultilize psyhic phenomenon to further their war efforts.
The book is journalist/biography style with the author making contact with numerous military figures all somehow linked to 'psy-ops'. Rather than covering a coherent story format this book reads as a series of gags and irony ridden tales of the military's attempts to train their own X-men.
Ronson crafts a bizarre conspiracy,...more
The book is journalist/biography style with the author making contact with numerous military figures all somehow linked to 'psy-ops'. Rather than covering a coherent story format this book reads as a series of gags and irony ridden tales of the military's attempts to train their own X-men.
Ronson crafts a bizarre conspiracy,...more
I can't believe I just discovered Jon Ronson. Even though the first line of the book is, "This is a true story," I kept thinking for the first third, "Nah, this can't be true."
The second part had me laughing hysterically -- the inmates are running the asylum, the inmates are running the asylum -- but the last part of the book, starting with the chapter on "The Dark Side," sobered me up pretty quickly.
Current torture methods used by the U.S. government apparently stem from a very twisted interp...more
The second part had me laughing hysterically -- the inmates are running the asylum, the inmates are running the asylum -- but the last part of the book, starting with the chapter on "The Dark Side," sobered me up pretty quickly.
Current torture methods used by the U.S. government apparently stem from a very twisted interp...more
Last week, I listened to the audiobook of THE PSYCHOPATH TEST, which was my first exposure to Jon Ronson. Right after finishing it, I wanted to read another of his books, to sort of see how this investigative-humorist-detective-culture-critic makes it all work in print. So I picked up THE MEN WHO STARE AT GOATS, from 2004. The great thing about Ronson is how he must spend years tracking down these people, these documents, and yet when he writes it up, he's able to condense it and organize it int...more
Ok, it's am amazing story on a lot of levels but I found the style a real irritation. Kept using that device of the narrator discovering something apparently momentous but keeping it from the reader. A master of the art can get away with that and rack up the tension, but this was just irritating (to me anyway) and in the realms of creative-writing-beginner's-error. We get things like - he whispered in my ear ... I said 'Oh my God!' ... end of chapter. No clue what it's about until ages later and...more
The documentarian examines how the US military intelligence community has attempted to make use of paranormal and extra-sensory techniques and how this has impacted the war on terror today. Ronson shows how Jim Channon, a US Army colonel, who wrote the “First Earth Battalion” manual which attempted to reorganize the military along non-lethal, New Age ideals such as pacifying the enemy with indigenous music, positive energy, or discordant sounds. He interviews people such as Guy Savelli, martial...more
In this book, Jon Ronson examines the U.S. military� s forays into psychological, psychic, and paranormal warfare. Ronson talks with members of the military, scientists, and even a Guantanamo Bay detainee. Some of the interviews are hilariously absurd, as when he talks to Guy Savelli, a purported � goat dropper� who claims to have video evidence that he has killed a hamster with his mind. But then the book turns chilling. A faked UFO photo is shown to lead to the Heaven� s Gate suicides. And the...more
At first blush, The Men Who Stare at Goats looks as though it will be a book about a crazy bunch of army extremists who believe that they have the power to kill mammals with their minds. And, yes, this book is about that, but also about so much more . . .
Whatever your views happen to be about psychic powers, telekinesis, mind reading, and mind control, The Men Who Stare at Goats has something for you. The author begins by discussing the titular goat starers. However, he expands upon his point to...more
Whatever your views happen to be about psychic powers, telekinesis, mind reading, and mind control, The Men Who Stare at Goats has something for you. The author begins by discussing the titular goat starers. However, he expands upon his point to...more
The Men Who Stare at Goats is a fascinating work of literary journalism. It begins with a relatively light-hearted premise: the cultivation of psychic powers for military applications. The subject matter becomes much darker as the book goes along, though, covering topics ranging from the Heaven's Gate mass suicide to the (sometimes curious) treatment of detainees at Guantanamo Bay, from the abuse of prisoners at Abu Ghraib to the FBI siege on the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, TX in 1993. Ron...more
I haven't seen the film based on "The Men Who Stare...", but I did see the BBC programme and I did attend a Ronson book-signing at the (now defunct) Borders in Oxford. It just took me a while to get round to actually reading it.
The title refers to some crazee cats in the U.S. military who tried to use paranormal techniques (some borrowed from the 1970s California new-age scene) to create 'super-soldiers' to fight in future conflicts. The original idea was to weave in almost a non-violent approac...more
The title refers to some crazee cats in the U.S. military who tried to use paranormal techniques (some borrowed from the 1970s California new-age scene) to create 'super-soldiers' to fight in future conflicts. The original idea was to weave in almost a non-violent approac...more
I knew Ronson's work from "Them: Adventures with Extremists" -- another journey into the heart of a bizarre subculture (multiples subcultures, in the former case). This one is a similarly funny, frightening, searching and poignant work, a look into the U.S. military's experiments in the paranormal over the years, but especially since the late 1970s. The driving irony is that the passion of one New Agey Vietnam veteran to make military operations less, well, violent, might have been twisted into...more
Dec 31, 2009
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The Men Who Stare at Goats, by Jon Ronson, narrated by Sean Mangen, produced by Bolinda Audio, downloaded from audible.com.
Ronson, a British journalist and generally a satirist, became interested in stories he was hearing that the American military was trying to invoke supernatural powers to fight wars. It is very frightening because it is all true. He interviews many men in the military and out of it now, as well as agency people who used to be in the CIA. What the army is trying to accomplish,...more
Ronson, a British journalist and generally a satirist, became interested in stories he was hearing that the American military was trying to invoke supernatural powers to fight wars. It is very frightening because it is all true. He interviews many men in the military and out of it now, as well as agency people who used to be in the CIA. What the army is trying to accomplish,...more
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Jon Ronson is a writer and documentary film maker. His books, Them: Adventures With Extremists and The Men Who Stare At Goats were international bestsellers. The Men Who Stare At Goats was adapted into a major motion picture starring George Clooney, Ewan McGregor, Kevin Spacey and Jeff Bridges.
He's written the popular "Human Zoo" and "Out of the Ordinary" columns for The Guardian, where he still c...more
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“The Americans have always been better than the Iraqis at the leaflets. Early on in the first Gulf War, Iraqi PsyOps dropped a batch of their own leaflets on US troops, designed to be psychologically devastating. They read, 'Your wives are back at home having sex with Bart Simpson and Burt Reynolds.”
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