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1632 (Assiti Shards #1)
by
Eric Flint
FREEDOM AND JUSTICE -- AMERICAN STYLE1632 And in northern Germany things couldn't get much worse. Famine. Disease. Religous war laying waste the cities. Only the aristocrats remained relatively unscathed; for the peasants, death was a mercy.
2000 Things are going OK in Grantville, West Virginia, and everybody attending the wedding of Mike Stearn's sister (including the enti...more
2000 Things are going OK in Grantville, West Virginia, and everybody attending the wedding of Mike Stearn's sister (including the enti...more
Mass Market Paperback, 597 pages
Published
June 30th 2006
by Baen Books
(first published January 1st 2000)
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Flint set out to write an optimistic Connecticut Yankee story and he succeeded. Things came too easy (they just happened to have an M-60 and three boxes of ammo)and the good guys always won, but he hewed to his formula. (Wonder how his Americans in Europe in 1632 would have reacted to the murderous attack on their school children had Flint written this after 9-11-2001?)
The most fun section was the appearance and exploits of Captain Gars. "A mad man. It is well known."
I may doubt that a 2000 comm...more
The most fun section was the appearance and exploits of Captain Gars. "A mad man. It is well known."
I may doubt that a 2000 comm...more
So, I finished reading Eric Flint's 1632 recently. The premise of the book is a modern-day West Virginia miner town is thrown backward in time to the middle of the Holy Roman Empire during the Thirty Years War.
The Good: It's established in the introduction to the book that when the town is sent back in time -- due to some aliens monkeying with space-time as a form of "art" -- another universe splits off. So it is possible for the 20th century people in the town to change the timeline. This pleas...more
The Good: It's established in the introduction to the book that when the town is sent back in time -- due to some aliens monkeying with space-time as a form of "art" -- another universe splits off. So it is possible for the 20th century people in the town to change the timeline. This pleas...more
[Had a very satisfying review written, accidentally refreshed the page, and poof, all you get is a poorly recalled rehash.] This first book is easily the most interesting, propelling you into the 17th century with exciting detail. While the rest of the series offers many glimpses of the indigenous peoples encountering future-born notions, only 1632 lets the reader share the Americans' dawning realization of their new existence.
There are several sequels, which are not necessarily chronological. I...more
There are several sequels, which are not necessarily chronological. I...more
I've never been much interested in these alternate history series, but when I found one set in one of my favourite periods in the setting of the 30 year war, I could not help but give it a chance. Unfortunately, to put it bluntly, I was disappointed both by the quality of the story and the depiction of the historical era.
The novel tells the story of a small US township that is automagically transported back in time and place in the middle of the Thirty Year War in Germany. The Americans take thi...more
The novel tells the story of a small US township that is automagically transported back in time and place in the middle of the Thirty Year War in Germany. The Americans take thi...more
Oct 16, 2008
Barb
rated it
2 of 5 stars
Recommends it for:
an early-modern European history geek
Recommended to Barb by:
The boys of Caer Cynin
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In short, I'll link to this user's review, since he basically sums up everything I thought about this book: https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...
The long version:
The author is extremely enthusiastic about small-town rural life and God, guns, 'Merica...and it's not necessarily a good thing. Life in this town is whitewashed; none of the cons of the living situation are ever pointed out, and it seems really convenient that the town just so happens to have everything it needs--coal mine, etc--for...more
The long version:
The author is extremely enthusiastic about small-town rural life and God, guns, 'Merica...and it's not necessarily a good thing. Life in this town is whitewashed; none of the cons of the living situation are ever pointed out, and it seems really convenient that the town just so happens to have everything it needs--coal mine, etc--for...more
Sometimes, a writer will come up with a watertight plot. Sometimes... not so much.
Robert Ludlum wrote a foreword for The Road To Gandolfo where he said that he really hadn't intended for his novel (about a former US soldier kidnapping the pope and replacing him with a failed opera singer) to turn into a comedy. It was just that the more he worked at it, the more a voice at the back of his head kept screaming with laughter: "You can NOT be serious!" And so eventually, he couldn't make the plot wo...more
Robert Ludlum wrote a foreword for The Road To Gandolfo where he said that he really hadn't intended for his novel (about a former US soldier kidnapping the pope and replacing him with a failed opera singer) to turn into a comedy. It was just that the more he worked at it, the more a voice at the back of his head kept screaming with laughter: "You can NOT be serious!" And so eventually, he couldn't make the plot wo...more
I rated the book 3 stars because it was a fun read and because it's interesting to see the perspective of an author purposefully trying to promote hillbilly America. I was more interested in the author's depiction of what Americans should value than in the plot. The book is an exercise in self-glorification --- American values and hillbilly know-how are capable of achieving anything! And when transplanted to the Thirty Years War, certainly capable of successful evangelizing the Bill of Rights. T...more
Backward, disease-ridden and unenlightened Europe is set to rights by good all-American know-how, bravery and technology. A perfect metaphor for the real world, for surely everyone knows that it's only the stars and stripes that stand between justice and truth, and the evil Islamic/Satanic/Socialist/Pornography conspiracy that threatens to destroy all that decent people hold dear.
For those that have drunk the Bushian kool-aid, this metaphor will probably be enough. Anyone a little more, let's s...more
For those that have drunk the Bushian kool-aid, this metaphor will probably be enough. Anyone a little more, let's s...more
The premise is great - a chunk of West Virginia gets mysteriously displaced and dropped into 1632 Germany, right in the middle of the Thirty Years War. The characters were well drawn. The history is factually accurate. I was intrigued by how the people from 1632 would accept the people from the future, and how they would react to the modern conveniences and weaponry of the future, and a lot of that is handled well, but the dialogue gets so sappy at times, and is so drawn out...please, let's just...more
I recently picked this book up again. I had tried to read it once, and hadn't made it through. This time I did, I think in part due to the fact that I could spend large blocks of time reading because I was on vacation. There are so many characters, and the scope of his history gets to be so vast, I was getting lost and confused by all the character names and relationships.
I liked the fact that the author immediately said that a paradox wasn't created, and instead is using the multiple time strea...more
I liked the fact that the author immediately said that a paradox wasn't created, and instead is using the multiple time strea...more
kay, first of all set aside any preconceived notions of realism and just accept that the world author has created is possible and then accept that it's as true to life as can be imagined. Yes, I know it's contradictory, but if you can do this, then you're in for a fun ride with this series.
"In April of the year 2000, a six-mile sphere centered on Grantville, West Virginia was displaced in space and time to Germany and May, 1631. The inhabitants of Grantville decided to start the American revolut...more
"In April of the year 2000, a six-mile sphere centered on Grantville, West Virginia was displaced in space and time to Germany and May, 1631. The inhabitants of Grantville decided to start the American revolut...more
For me, this is "An Yankee at King's Arthur Court" on steroids; this the mother-load of all the alternative history / time-travel books I've ever read; this is great!
I admit the story needs a (rather big) bit of suspended belief, but it reads easily, it is fun and decently researched. The realism is not at Bernard Cornwell-standards, even leaving the time-travel bit apart. The initial idea is beautifully developed. The characters are a bit uni-dimensional (either good or bad, no inbetween gray),...more
I admit the story needs a (rather big) bit of suspended belief, but it reads easily, it is fun and decently researched. The realism is not at Bernard Cornwell-standards, even leaving the time-travel bit apart. The initial idea is beautifully developed. The characters are a bit uni-dimensional (either good or bad, no inbetween gray),...more
This is a pleasant, well-researched exercise in wish fulfillment.
The author did an immense amount of research (some of which will be poured into your head via chapter long info-dumps). It's an underserved time period that is inherently interesting. The characters are heart-warming, each with their own Crowning Moment of Awesome. It's a fun, sweet romp.
There is absolutely no narrative tension whatsoever.
At no point does any character experience a real setback or any frustration more than momentar...more
The author did an immense amount of research (some of which will be poured into your head via chapter long info-dumps). It's an underserved time period that is inherently interesting. The characters are heart-warming, each with their own Crowning Moment of Awesome. It's a fun, sweet romp.
There is absolutely no narrative tension whatsoever.
At no point does any character experience a real setback or any frustration more than momentar...more
Alternate history novel which focuses on what happens when an entire town is transported back to the middle of 17th century Germany, during the middle of the Thirty Years War.
The good things about this work are its intense descriptions of the battle techniques and weapons of the day and what a difference a little bit of modern firepower can make. It is obviously awell researched look at the politics and religious battles of the Europe of that age.
On the negative side, characters are not well de...more
The good things about this work are its intense descriptions of the battle techniques and weapons of the day and what a difference a little bit of modern firepower can make. It is obviously awell researched look at the politics and religious battles of the Europe of that age.
On the negative side, characters are not well de...more
"1632" by Eric Flint is a book motivated by an interesting idea and executed inconsistently. Taking a classic alternate history trope the first book of the "Ring of Fire" project (see below) sets up an ambitious premise with characters that can't help but charm the reader and keep them engaged through even the roughest patches.
The premise is simple as it is intriguing: the entire town of Grantville, West Virginia find themselves transported from 2001 America to 1632 Central Germany at the heigh...more
The premise is simple as it is intriguing: the entire town of Grantville, West Virginia find themselves transported from 2001 America to 1632 Central Germany at the heigh...more
If you really want to read some good reviews of this book read some of the other folks' on this page. I liked the book a lot, but don't need to rehash their compliments and criticisms. I just want to give you a warning: This book doesn't end. It just stops. The next book does the same. Subsequent books fork and the characters disperse and you start to realize that the authors writing in this universe don't ever plan for the stories to finish up. It's a fascinating read, but there's never any res...more
The plot goes thusly: the small West-Virginian town of Grantville is displaced in time and place from the year 2000 to the year 1632, essentially dumping them in the middle of the Holy Roman Empire in the midst of the Thirty Years War, one of the most bloody conflicts in European history.
And it is awesome. The West Virginians don't try to pretend that they're sorcerers or anything: they're just brutally honest. And maintain their American values. They quickly take charge of their own situation...more
And it is awesome. The West Virginians don't try to pretend that they're sorcerers or anything: they're just brutally honest. And maintain their American values. They quickly take charge of their own situation...more
An alternate history. From the back:
"1632. And in northern Germany things couldn't get much worse. Famine. Disease. Religious war laying waste the cities. Only the aristocrats remained relatively unscathed; for the peasants, death was a mercy.
2000. Things are going OK in Grantville, West Virginia and everybody attending the wedding of Mike Stearn's sister (including the entire local chapter of the United Mine Workers of America which Mike leads) is having a good time.
THEN EVERYTHING CHANGED...
Wh...more
"1632. And in northern Germany things couldn't get much worse. Famine. Disease. Religious war laying waste the cities. Only the aristocrats remained relatively unscathed; for the peasants, death was a mercy.
2000. Things are going OK in Grantville, West Virginia and everybody attending the wedding of Mike Stearn's sister (including the entire local chapter of the United Mine Workers of America which Mike leads) is having a good time.
THEN EVERYTHING CHANGED...
Wh...more
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Recommended from a strange place: http://www.giantbomb.com/fallout-3/61.... I'm gonna ride this one out precisely until it gets ridiculous, and at that point drop it like a bad habit.
btw, doesn't this remind you of The Handmaid's Tale? (before you ask, "FLK problem" refers to Funny Looking Kid, not Fetal Liver Kinase. The Health Physics Society keeps an excellent FAQ regarding pregnancy + radiation here. Don't ask me how I know this, as I'm unsure myself):
"The ugly side of life continues. We do...more
btw, doesn't this remind you of The Handmaid's Tale? (before you ask, "FLK problem" refers to Funny Looking Kid, not Fetal Liver Kinase. The Health Physics Society keeps an excellent FAQ regarding pregnancy + radiation here. Don't ask me how I know this, as I'm unsure myself):
"The ugly side of life continues. We do...more
What a very fun book to read! And what a great way to get someone interested in a period of history. Sure, there's the jingoistic "Americuh, **** yeah!" aspect to it, but it's often played for laughs.
The premise of the book is that about a 6 mile radius sphere of a modern day West Virginian small mining town is suddenly scooped out due to an advanced species' temporal negligance and dropped down in the middle of Germany in 1631, about 10 years into the ferociously vicious and bloody Thirty Year...more
The premise of the book is that about a 6 mile radius sphere of a modern day West Virginian small mining town is suddenly scooped out due to an advanced species' temporal negligance and dropped down in the middle of Germany in 1631, about 10 years into the ferociously vicious and bloody Thirty Year...more
This book is exciting, addictive, and full of adventure, romance, and history, but after reading it, I felt like my mind needed the ritual purification of a mikvah. It’s a fantasy story in which a 21st century town in West Virginia is mysteriously transported back to 1632 Europe, which is in the throes of the Thirty Years’ War. To deal with this crisis, Mike Stearns, head of the coalminers’ union, begins to organize a government, introducing democracy and technology to a world that badly needs i...more
Plot summary: a West Virginian town and its residents are mysteriously transported en masse to 17th century Germany. Finding themselves in the middle of the 30 Years War, they proceed to hold the American Revolution 150 years early.
I'd like to give this one a 3.5. It's a good read, no doubt at all, for any lover of the alternate history genera. I liked the characters, and the plot scenarios were interesting and entertaining. But the problem is I've just read the "Island in the Sea of Time" tril...more
I'd like to give this one a 3.5. It's a good read, no doubt at all, for any lover of the alternate history genera. I liked the characters, and the plot scenarios were interesting and entertaining. But the problem is I've just read the "Island in the Sea of Time" tril...more
This book is bright, hopeful, and positive, so I can see why many people would not like it. I agree with author in that cynical does not automatically equal intelligent, and positive does not automatically equal naive.
The writing is not superb, but easily passable. The first few chapters were a bit jarring for me, mainly because of the terse writing, but once the story really started rolling, I was well and truly hooked.
There's really no plot, and the characters are not complex or nuanced. The b...more
The writing is not superb, but easily passable. The first few chapters were a bit jarring for me, mainly because of the terse writing, but once the story really started rolling, I was well and truly hooked.
There's really no plot, and the characters are not complex or nuanced. The b...more
This book, like most of the still-continuing books in the series, is a somewhat tongue-in-cheek rendering of the tale of a West Virginia minding town that is transported, intact, into late 1631 in the middle of Germany during the 30 Wars War. The head of the local miners' union takes it upon himself and his town to find a way to survive the wars, and turns Europe upside down in his endeavors to create a more "American" Europe.
This book continues through many followups, including five Grantham Ga...more
This book continues through many followups, including five Grantham Ga...more
About a quarter of the way through this book, I got the same unpleasant, slightly dirty feeling you get when you suddenly realize you've been groovin' along to Christian rock. This story of a small West Virginian town suddenly transported to 17th century Europe is the worst kind of pro-American rhetoric, thinly disguised as science-fiction.
The author shrewdly chooses to drop his scale model of small town American values at a time and place where the natives are impressed with the ingenuity and m...more
The author shrewdly chooses to drop his scale model of small town American values at a time and place where the natives are impressed with the ingenuity and m...more
This book was well paced and appears to have been researched well for it's historical accuracy. However a few things bothered me about the book. First of all, where is the psychological impact that would in all likelyhood accompany an event like being trapped in the distant past? There aren't any suicides, unrest or anything among the citizens of the town. Everyone seems to be fine with the situation. As a matter of fact there's something of a non chalant attitude towards everything that's happe...more
One star, only because I somehow managed to read all of it, so I'm rounding up from zero. Although the reason I managed to read it at all is that it was one of those train-wrecky things, the things one just can't help but keep staring at in horrified fascination.
This was just bad in every possible way - atrocious writing, the most cardboard characters imaginable, half a dozen instances of insta-love (which happened to, like, everyone) and the overwhelming gung-ho cowboy American mentality, with...more
This was just bad in every possible way - atrocious writing, the most cardboard characters imaginable, half a dozen instances of insta-love (which happened to, like, everyone) and the overwhelming gung-ho cowboy American mentality, with...more
Jul 06, 2010
Douglas
rated it
3 of 5 stars
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review of another edition
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This was a good read. I mostly enjoyed myself.
There was a great deal of historical data to supply context for the story as the town of 20th Century Grantville, WV was dropped into the middle of medieval Germany during the 30 Year War. I cannot verify the accuracy of that data, but it worked for the tale. I have to admit that I found some of the historical details something of an info dump at times. I skipped a lot, though my friends who recommended the book claimed they ate up every letter. I d...more
There was a great deal of historical data to supply context for the story as the town of 20th Century Grantville, WV was dropped into the middle of medieval Germany during the 30 Year War. I cannot verify the accuracy of that data, but it worked for the tale. I have to admit that I found some of the historical details something of an info dump at times. I skipped a lot, though my friends who recommended the book claimed they ate up every letter. I d...more
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Eric Flint is a New York Times bestselling American author, editor, and e-publisher. The majority of his main works are alternate history science fiction, but he also writes humorous fantasy adventures.
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