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Nachts kommen die Barbaren. Bis dahin müssen die Tore verrammelt und die Ziegen in die Stadtmauern zurückgeholt worden sein. Denn angeblich haben die Nomaden in den Wüsten des "Reichs" nichts als Mord und Plünderung im Sinn, und kürzlich soll ein Mädchen von ihnen vergewaltigt worden sein. Deshalb haben die Kinder schlechte Träume, aus denen sie schweißgebadet erwachen. "' ...more
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Published December 1st 2002 by Fischer (Tb.) (first published October 27th 1980)
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Samadrita
It is impossible to read this and not be reminded of an almost genetically programmed inferiority complex, the burden of history only the descendants of the colonized have to bear. Despite those smug pronouncements of the 21st century being an era of a fair and equitable world and the hard battles won in favor of interracial harmony, there's the fact of your friend barely suppressing a squawk of alarm when you express your admiration for Idris Elba - no female I am acquainted with in real life h ...more
RandomAnthony
Jan 15, 2009 RandomAnthony rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
I’m going to write two Waiting for the Barbarians reviews. The first, in italics, is the one that someone seems to expect, the second is the one I would normally write. Take your pick!

Waiting for the Barbarians always reminds me of this time I was on a cross-country flight from DC to Oakland. This 400 pound Samoan guy in a black silk suit sat across the aisle from me. He feverishly wrote in his journal the entire flight, whispering things like “holy fuck!” and “yes, shit, I’ve got it!” to himsel
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Matt
Jan 04, 2009 Matt rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
"From such beginnings grow obsessions: I am warned." pg.79

This quote, taken wildly out of context, serves as an accurate description of my first experience reading J.M. Coetzee. Having read this small book in its entirety throughout the last twenty four hours, I now have the urge to read his other works as soon as possible. It is interesting how Mr. Coetzee and this book in particular have become a recurring Goodreads meme of sorts over the last few weeks, so i'm guessing that i'm not alone in t
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Lizzy
After the shock of the recent Paris attacks I don’t know precisely why it made me recall Coetzee’s Waiting for the Barbarians that I read a few years ago. Yesterday it was a terrorist attack and no result of imperialism, but maybe the fears that the recent events provoked in me are somewhat akin to those suffered in this tiny frontier settlement with the arrival of interrogation experts. Today we don’t know how to defend ourselves against such tragedy, how can we escape or where next will it h ...more
Mohammed
Mar 08, 2016 Mohammed rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
بانتظار البرابرة

عن صناعة الغول نتحدث، حينما يستحث الشعب جُلّ مخيلته فيخلق لنفسه غولاً, ثم يغذيه فضلة خوفه حتى يتضخم الغول ويلتهم صانعه. عن هوس الجموع نتكلم، عن أن يعتزل الشعب التفكير ويتبع ما يقال له ويسمعه دون التوقف هنيهة لإعادة التفكير فيغدو مطرقة طيعة بيد المحرضين، يهشم رأسه على رأس غيره، وما من رابح هنالك. نناقش فكرة العدالة، أيمكن تطبيقها على الأرض؟ أما الضمير وما أدراك مالضمير؟ ذلك النواح الذي لا ينقطع، فيخيرك ما بين الصراع اللانهائي معه أو أن تردي نفسك لتخرس إلحاحه.

هذه الرواية من النوع ا
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Nathaniel
Jun 12, 2008 Nathaniel rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: africa
Coetzee writes for academics. He writes to teach lessons, to have his themes discussed and perhaps to be chuckled at. I find his books rather deliberate, hardened and inevitable. Now, he’s a fine writer, can turn a passable phrase and get conceptual without becoming a total bore; but, he has a tendency to interpret his books for you and the mannerisms and hobbies of the characters in “Waiting for the Barbarians” slot them too neatly into representative categories, which makes this more of an all ...more
TAM
May 07, 2016 TAM rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Recommended to TAM by: نادي-أصدقاء-نوبل

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بدايةً حينما بدأت قراءة كتاب في انتظار البرابرة، كُنت أتوقع ظهور البرابرة بصورة أو بأخرى ولكن نسيت -لسذاجتي- أن عنوان الكتاب يشمل فعل الـ انتظار ، بمعنى آخر كان يجب أن أتوقع أن البرابرة لن يأتون وربما لن يكون لهم حتى ظل الحضور !ـ

بطل الرواية القاضي -الذي لم يذكر له اسم- الذي يملك نظرة مختلفة عن البرابرة عن ما يملكه نظام الإمبراطورية -التي لم يذكر لها اسم- التي يحكمها امبراطور -هو الآخر لم نعرف اسمه-، يعمل القاضي لصالح الإمبراطورية كـ قاضي ومدبّر لـ أمور الناس في قرية صغيرة -أيضا لم يذكر لها ا
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D. Pow
Jul 07, 2009 D. Pow rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
J.M. Coetzee’s Waiting for the Barbarians is a stark, allegorical tale that is haunting, strange and filled with impending menace from page one. It is the tale of The Magistrate, a mid-level bureaucrat who presides over a small settlement on the edge of a pre-industrial Empire. The Empire is not named, the Barbarians are not specified, and though the particulars of the settings are echoed by historical counterparts, Coetzee leaves out enough details to make the place timeless, universal, fabulis ...more
Fabian
Jun 13, 2016 Fabian rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
"They do not care that once the ground is cleared the wind begins to eat at the soil and the desert advances. Thus the expeditionary force against the barbarians prepared for its campaign, ravaging the earth, wasting our patrimony."

Is this (my fifth read) THE quintessential Coetzee?

Earlier than "Life and Times of Micheal K.", it is here that we see the true beginnings of Coetzee's motifs, as well as the accomplished writer's true poetics. A man whose fortune is reversed; a war-torn stage; a mod
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عبدالله ناصر

ربما من الأفضل أولاً أن نقوم بقراءة قصيدة اليوناني العظيم كفافي و التي اقتبس عنوانها كوتزي و أوحت له بالرواية التي يُعتقد أنها كانت السبب الأول بفوز صاحبها الجنوب أفريقي بجائزة نوبل. لا أتفق مع مقدمة المترجمة التي اجتهدت و أصابت كما أخطأت أيضاً بافتراض تأثير مسرحية بيكيت العبثية " في انتظار غودو ". يكتب كوتزي متحرراً من الزمان و المكان حيث يعيش على تخوم الامبراطورية بعض من البرابرة الذين عرف عنهم ميلهم للسلم و الجهل كما عُرف أيضاً عن كونهم السكان الأصليين لهذه الأرض. البطل هو القاضي و رجل النظام
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Ceyda
Apr 10, 2016 Ceyda rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
3,5
Konu olarak evrensel bir konuyu yöresel bir şekle yerleştirmiş ki sanırım büyük eserler genelde bu şekilde kalıcılıklarını sağlıyorlar izlenimime göre.
Spoiler vermekten ziyade tartışmak istediğim bir çok kısmı var fakat üstteki evrensel kısmını açmak istiyorum.
Bir toplum düşünün, buradaki insanlar için birbirlerine karşı bir ayrıcalık, yani onları bir arada tutan herhangi bir şey yok. Ama devletin onlardan yarar sağlayabilmek ve üstlerinde bir otorite kurabilmek için onları bir arada tutabil
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Sawsan
Oct 26, 2015 Sawsan rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
افتعال الحكومات للأخطار للدخول في حروب ضد أعداء وهميين... فكرة واقعية جدا
راوي الرواية قاضي في بلدة في الواحات على حدود امبراطورية ما, يعارض قائد الجيش القادم لمحاربة البرابرة المسالمين المقيمين خارج حدود الامبراطورية بدعوى ان الامبراطورية مهددة بهجوم البرابرة وأنهم خطر على الأمن.
الرواية تعرض الكثير من القضايا, حقيقة السلطة, التعذيب, الاحتقار ونظرة المستعمِر الدونية لسكان الأرض الأصليين, العدالة والقانون اللي ما كان لهم أي قيمة في مواجهة سلطة القوة والبطش
السرد رائع والأسلوب يعتمد على الحوار الداخ
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Abeer Saleh
Mar 19, 2016 Abeer Saleh rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
في 220 صفحة, يأخذنا كوتزي لقراءة الماضي, والحاضر, و المستقبل, هنا نقرأ الأدوات التي يستخدمها أي نظام قمعي ليضمن بقاءه, الخوف من اللاشيء, المبالغة في صناعة الأعداء, و الأوهام التي تغسل بها أدمغة شعوب بأكملها, وسيناريوهات لا تمت للواقع / المنطق بصلة , لكنها استراتيجيات ناجحة جدًا في إقصاء أي رأي معارض أو رافض لهذا النظام , بالتالي ضمان استمراريته لفترة أطول.

- من هم البرابرة ؟
- ماهي الإمبراطورية التي احتضنت أحداث العمل ؟
- عن أي زمان يتحدث ؟
- هل المكان , الذي حصلت فيه أحداث الرواية, حقيقي أم من نس
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Sidharth Vardhan

"See, there is only a single character, it is the barbarian character 'war' but it has other senses too. It can stand for 'vengence' and if you turn it upside down like this, it can be made to read 'Justice' There is no knowing which sense is intended. That is a part of barbarian cunning.

The narrator is Magistrate on a border area; fifty years of age. He is probably from somewhere in middle of empire but has been employed here for almost thirty years,living a very easy life. He has been so far
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mai ahmd
Mar 11, 2012 mai ahmd rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: روايات
ليست رواية سهلة , إنها رواية تتداخل فيها الكثير من الأحداث والأحلام حتى لا تعرف إن كان ما يحدث جزء من حقيقة الأحداث أو فكرة خطرت في نفس بطل الرواية أو لعلها حلما من أحلامه التي لا تنتهي , الإمبراطورية التي يتحدث عنها الكاتب في الرواية لم يكن لها اسما قد تكون جنوب افريقيا وقد لا تكون وقد تكون أي مكان آخر يعيش فيه مستوطنون أرادوا تكوين امبراطورية لا يحدها مكان مستخدمين أبشع الوسائل لإخضاع السكان الأصليين !
يعيش سكان هذه المدينة في انتظار البرابرة الذين يرغبون في العيش بهدوء وسلام ولكن المستوطنين يص
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Eslammohammed


رواية جيدة ومحكمة لكنها تحتاج في قرائتها لفراغ بال ومزاج رائق غير معتل ولا مشغول
كويتزي"كويتسي" عموما روائي متميز ليس الأمر بالنسبة لي محل شك
لكن ظروف قراءة العمل لم تساعدني على التفاعل معه كما ينبغي وربما كما يستحق
إذن فهو في حاجة لقراءة أخرى أو ربما قراءة عمل مختلف للكاتب نفسه
توطئة لهذا العمل ربما إليزابيث كستلو هى الإختيار القادم
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FeReSHte
Dec 29, 2014 FeReSHte rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: africa
یه تجربه عالی و لذتبخش
داستان یه روایت تقریبا خطی و عاری از پیچبدگی و خودنمایی و اغراق داره.جملات کوتاه و ساده ولی روایت شدیدا گیرا و درگیر کنندست
داستان احوال شهری مرزی تو یه امپراطوری نامعلوم رو روایت مبکنه که از زمانی که همه ساکنان به خاطر دارن ترس از حمله بربرها که همون بومیان محلی و ساکنان اولیه اون منطقه هستند لحظه ای راحتشون نگذاشته
جالب اینجاست که طی سالیان دراز هم کسی هیچ خاطره ای از حمله بربرها نداره ولی ترس و شایعه سازی امپراطوری مردم رو رها نمیکنه
ازون کتابهاست که افراد بی نام هستند و هی
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orsodimondo (a zonzo)
Jun 30, 2012 orsodimondo (a zonzo) rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: sudafrica
KAFKA TRA I BOSCIMANI
Qual è compito della letteratura, rassicurarci o metterci paura?

Con questo libro, Coetzee risponde senza dubbio adottando la seconda ipotesi.

Elizabeth Costello, nel romanzo omonimo, si descrive così, come se dovesse pubblicare un annuncio personale: Divorziata, bianca, altezza 1.70, sessantenne, in corsa verso la morte che le corre incontro allo stesso passo, cerco dio, immortale, in qualunque forma terrestre, per fini per i quali non bastano le parole.

Coetzee è ormai settan
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Judy
Dec 13, 2014 Judy rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: anyone who loves good writing
Recommended to Judy by: 118
156 pages of excellence. Excellence in conveying truths about ourselves that we don't wish to confront. Excellence in writing - elegant and powerful. Excellence in cultural depiction. Okay, okay....all around excellent!

The story centers around an old magistrate stationed in the Sub-Saharan desert who has to come to grips with governmental administration and policy changes that will effect the native population negatively. A thought-provoking book that challenged me to reflect on what I would or
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Jessica
Feb 02, 2009 Jessica marked it as aborted-efforts  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: people who like "good literature"
Recommended to Jessica by: people who like "good literature"
And then there're those days when you're like, "Who gives a shit about distance running, and why would I want to watch anyone run a fucking marathon?"

It didn't even occur to me before starting that I wouldn't completely love this book. And I mean yeah, it's really good or whatever, but who cares? It's good, blah blah blah. It's important and well-written, blah blah blah. So what? I'm not feeling it, so none of that helps me. Tonight on the packed train home, I shut this and shoved it into my poc
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Maggie
Mar 12, 2011 Maggie rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: fiction
I knocked off two stars for the magistrate's weird obsession with younger women. I found it mostly irrelevant and disturbing. I know part of the point was that the magistrate himself was by no means a perfect guy, the complete foil of Joss - but it was a bit much. Maybe it was just the wrong time for me to read this book, but I found the characters to be two-dimensional, and I didn't like the magistrate at all. Despite all that, I was very interested in the parts of the book where he wasn't obse ...more
Cody
May 31, 2016 Cody rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
I’m sorry, darling, my threadbare hermeneutics are showing. Once again my lack of Gospel grounding leaves me unprepared for a thorough whipping of this horse, though the Biblical allusions are obvious and abound. The Magistrate-as-Christ subtext—hell, he even washes whores’ feet—doesn’t exactly require a rearing in a seminary (said the vicar to the priest) to come across as heavily theological. It is an effective, if obvious, move on Coetzee’s part.

What I dig so much about this book is that it’s
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Mostafa
Feb 22, 2016 Mostafa rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
"آرزو میکنم این بربرها قیام کنند و درسی به ما بدهند، تا اینکه بیاموزیم به آنها احترام بگذاریم"

امپراطوری داره ضعیف میشه، یک دشمن میسازه، باهاش مقابله میکنه، مردم به امپراطوری امیدوار میشن، امپراطوری شکست میخوره، مردم دلسرد میشن، امپراطوری با وعده حرکت بزرگتر مردم رو نزدیک خودش نگه میداره!

جنگ قدرت... بربرهایی که تا دیروز با مردم شهر دادوستد داشتند حالا میشن وحشی و دشمن، خب اونکه طرفدار دشمنه خائنه و یکی هم باید به مقابله با دشمن بیاد دیگه!
جول و راوی دوقطب مخالف در مقابل مساله بربرهان، کسی که اونها
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Sandra
Oct 08, 2012 Sandra rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: favorites
In un tempo imprecisato, in uno sperduto avamposto di frontiera ai confini di un’Impero imprecisato, la vita scorre sempre uguale secondo poche ma salde certezze quotidiane, governata da un magistrato non più giovane, il protagonista del romanzo, di cui non sapremo mai il nome ma solo i pensieri più intimi. La tranquillità che vige nel “tempo immobile dell’oasi” viene sconvolta dall’arrivo di una spedizione militare mandata dal capoluogo dell’Impero: fuori dall’avamposto, in un territorio sconos ...more
بثينة العيسى
Oct 17, 2009 بثينة العيسى rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: كل إنسان

هل يتناص العمل الروائي مع مسرحية صموئيل بيكيت " في انتظار غودو " .. غودو الذي لا يأتي أبداً ؟ والبرابراة .. هل يأتون؟ ومن هم البرابرة فعلاً؟ أسئلة أصيلة في هذا النص، الذي يفضح - بمنتهى الجمال بالمناسبة - الآلية التي تعمد إليها الحكومات لصنع أعدائها في سبيل " إقناع " شعبها بحاجتهم إليها، الحكومات التي لا تريد أن تركن على الرف، وتريد أن تمد بسطوتها في جميع الجهات بشراهة .. ماذا تفعل حكومات كهذه في عالم مسالم؟ إنها تصنع حرباً، لأن التاريخ لا يحفل في الغالب بالحقبات السلمية على حد زعمهم ! لنقل ببساط
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Ken
Feb 06, 2008 Ken rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
In one concise, engrossing, deceptively simple book, Coetzee beautifully summarizes and poeticizes the labyrinth of brutal contradictions that keeps humanity trapped within "the black flower of civilization."

Coetzee's unsettling conclusions about the root of empire, as well as his deftness in illustrating the extent to which we all become intractably compliant in its maintenance, speaks more profoundly and truer than the sum of all the other anthropological texts I've read. If I had to choose,
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Matt
Jul 20, 2014 Matt rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
While writing this review the commemoration of the assassination attempt on Hitler is held in Berlin. On this day, 70 years ago, world's history could have taken a turn for the better, but unfortunately the assassination failed. The people involved were executed on that same evening. Needless to say this took place without a charge or trial. But today we remember not only the group of Graf von Stauffenberg, but all resisters and dissidents of the Nazi terror, be they individuals of culture, chur ...more
Tom
Dec 29, 2008 Tom rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: novels
(Ok, I've just finished it, and though perhaps it is a bit "preachy" as some have complained, that limitation is more than compensated for by the fact that the Magistrate never lets himself off the hook for his own ambivalent treatment of the "barbarian" girl. Allegorical or not, this book strikes me as prescient regarding Abu Ghraib and Gitmo as Graham Greene's The Quiet American was regarding American fate in Vietnam -- but Coetzee is a far more lyrical writer than Greene. I predict that futur ...more
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الكائنات الثدية، لنقل قطة مثلا، راقبها كيف تتصرف حين تقابل حيوان آخر، هي لاتهجم الا حين تشعر بالخوف، وبما أننا قد تطورنا لكن مازلنا نحمل هذه الخصال بداخلنا، الخوف من المجهول، أو من هجوم الاخر، يدفعنا لارتكاب الحروب والمجازر في أناس ربما لم يكن لهم ذنب، عقلنا هو الذي توهم، هو الذي صدق، خاف، هاجم،

اغلب الحروب التي تحدث في زمننا الحالي هي بسبب خدعة زرعها فينا الشخص ذو المصلحة بأن الاخر يريد ايذائنا

Raghad Frehat
Mar 19, 2016 Raghad Frehat rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
الرواية مؤلمة جدًا
بعض الروايات تجعلك تشمئز انك انسان , وهذه واحدة منهم
ولكن ,لا ادري اعتقد ان اسلوب الكتاب ممل قليلًا
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John Maxwell Coetzee is an author and academic from South Africa. He is now an Australian citizen and lives in South Australia.
A novelist and literary critic as well as a translator, Coetzee has won the Booker Prize twice and was awarded the 2003 Nobel Prize in Literature.
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“You think you know what is just and what is not. I understand. We all think we know." I had no doubt, myself, then, that at each moment each one of us, man, woman, child, perhaps even the poor old horse turning the mill-wheel, knew what was just: all creatures come into the world bringing with them the memory of justice. "But we live in a world of laws," I said to my poor prisoner, "a world of the second-best. There is nothing we can do about that. We are fallen creatures. All we can do is to uphold the laws, all of us, without allowing the memory of justice to fade.” 34 likes
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