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The Gate Thief (Mither Mages #2)

3.75 of 5 stars 3.75  ·  rating details  ·  7,055 ratings  ·  694 reviews
In this sequel to The Lost Gate, bestselling author Orson Scott Card continues his fantastic tale of the Mages of Westil who live in exile on Earth in The Gate Thief, a novel of the Mither Mages.

Here on Earth, Danny North is still in high school, yet he holds in his heart and mind all the stolen outselves of thirteen centuries of gatemages. The Families still want to kill
Hardcover, 380 pages
Published March 19th 2013 by Tor Books (first published March 3rd 2013)
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I have somewhat of a rocky relationship with this (and the first) book. I love the setting Card has created. Westil, Earth, the mithermages, and the families all have potential for a dynamic, captivating story. However, some of the characters that fill the setting are irksome. Danny North, especially around his friends, has the tendency to slip into depressed and philosophical introspection. This abates as the story moves forward, but the first half of the book errs on the side of dialogue and i ...more
Mike (the Paladin)
And another series crashes and burns.

I really liked the first book in the "series" of books The Lost Gate and was greatly looking forward to the next book, this one. It opened well and I was drawn back into the story of the young Gate mage and his friends...for a while.

This book gets bogged down in teenage angst, emotional baggage and also an attempt to include a philosophical/theological view while burying it in the story.

Didn't work.

I've read books by Mr. Card that I like very much and I've r
Nov 24, 2014 seak rated it 4 of 5 stars
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This is the second installment in the Mither Mages series and actually quite an improvement. I thought the first book (Don't get too overwhelmed with that over-inclusive review) was good and even great in places, but fell short in a number of ways.

The Gate Thief takes the interesting ideas of the first book, The Lost Gate, and puts them to good use. The only problem with this has a little to do with Brandon Sanderson's first law of magic systems:
Sanderson’s First Law of Magics: An author’s abil
Card weaves a fantastic world with a great overarching plot (as only he can do), but then he fills in the rest of the novel with garbage. The majority of this novel was about a teenage boy trying (view spoiler) to resist the sexual advances of his friends. Card's afterword made it clear that he was trying to be true to the irresistible qualities of ancient deities. But why ruin a good story for that? Besides being out of place and drawn out to the extreme, it also rui ...more
I thought it had a great great plot line, it was actually quite brilliant, but like some of the other books he's written it had a lot of sexual references. There was one sex scene in the book that I thought was pretty bad. Now granted there was a reason for it I (wont tell you). Also he was a teenage boy but in my opinion that still doesn't want to justify the sex.
Joey H.
Ugh. This got progressively more puritanical and anti-female as it went along. Every bad thing that happens in this novel happens because women are conniving, emotionally weak succubi. Way to alienate your audience and ruin an otherwise compelling narrative, Mr. Card.

Kathy Sebesta
To me, a 2-star book is one that I managed to read all the way thru despite being tempted to throw in the towel, then in the end it proved not worth the effort. This is one of those boox.

Don't get me wrong: I love much of what Card writes, and I've read everything he's ever published. But sometimes he gets off on a tangent, and this is one of those times. It's a sequel to The Lost Gate, which was better because it lacked all the angst and breast-beating of this one, and actually told a story.
One star is lost for OSC not being able to resist putting his negative feelings about gay people into the book.

One star is lost for bashing on YA literature about 10-15 times and suggesting that every YA book ever made is crap compared to Card's "far superior" "adult fiction."

The other 3 stars are for his excellent storytelling. Card is a master of his craft, but he is also an arrogant, privileged ass.
Charles Fey
Journeyed up its own ass with exposition because the story got much too obsessed with its own lore. As a result the book dragged terribly and the conclusion was much too predictable. Characters became pure expository explainers, sitting in a room doing nothing to advance the plot while alternately emoting their motivations or blathering half-cracked mythology.
Kristin Walters
Tedious book. Mildly intriguing in parts, but the book gets slogged down with so much ka and ba explanation that it becomes kind of boring. It's definitely not a page turner for me. I felt like I was having to force myself to finish; I might not have except I wanted to see if anything actually happened in this book. It finally did in the last fifteen pages.
I really liked this book and look forward to the next one in the series!
Fantastic second book in this series. Cant wait for the last one!
Well, this is a difficult one. I liked the story and thought it was a good continuation of book 1, but there are also a few things that stuck in my throat about The gate thief.
Let me tell you that I'm generally not very interested in an author's personal views, as long as his books are good. So far, I've enjoyed most of OSC's works, despite the fact that all his heroes are male, all his books experience a dearth of women or girls, and the ones that are there tend to be inferior to the men. I've
Well, I hate to do it because I like Orson Scott Card, but I fairly detested this book. To be fair, however, I wasn't aware this was a sequel to a previous Mithermages book. But wouldn't it be helpful if the front cover indicated that this was #2? Unfortunately, I figured this out simply by reading and realizing that half the significant memories the characters had were not even in The Gate Thief. Nevertheless, I continued reading and these are my impressions of this book:

Firstly- magic, magic,
Kay (Amber)
I'm hoping the third book is as polished as the first.

Like many other reviewers noted, (view spoiler)
Junkie for the Written Word
**Disclaimer** After I found out about what a douche OSC was being IRL, I removed him from my favorite authors list and swore I wouldn't support him with my money. So this book came from the library and I didn't feel bad about reading it. But regardless of my feelings about OSC's irl assholery, that is not tainting my review of this book, even though I'm mad about the fact that I'm going to miss the Ender movie.


6/13/13 WTF has happened
There was one scene in the first book ("The Lost Gate") that seemed totally out of place. It was quite sexual, and seemed totally unrelated to the plot. It got a lot of commentary in the reviews. If you didn't like that bit, you may want to be advised before picking this one up. There's a lot more to come.

The idea that teen girls might want to sleep with their friend who is not only a nice guy but also a super-powerful Norse god makes sense, but it really took over in some parts, and made a lot
Matt Graham
May 10, 2013 Matt Graham rated it 1 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: No one
Recommended to Matt by: Ender
Move over Stephenie Meyer...there is another Mormon author edging in on the adolescent soft porn market. While I have read and generally enjoy Cards books, this one was too much of a departure*. The main Characters all seem to be obsessed with Sex. Yes, I know that the book is about ancient mythical gods who were quite promiscuous, and that actual teens are obsesses with Sex, but that doesn't mean Card has a responsibility to graphically illustrate this. If it _has_ to part of the story fine... ...more
This was... awful. The characters were all over the place, with no part that seemed to last more than a scene. The dialogue was completely unbelievable, particularly the high school students. The long, rambling expositions on "ba" and "ka" were not only boring, but unnecessary. The entire plot with Baal was unnecessary and yet Card seemed to feel (based on what he wrote in the Afterward) that it was the main part of the story. It was the least interesting, least compelling, least well explained, ...more
I'd love to give this book a higher rating. It has a great premise, and cool moments, but so much of the book was mind numbingly boring I wanted to give up. It seemed like every other page was:

And then Dan learned that his gate magic X could let him do Y but only when he first did A and Wad let him see B. But then he figured out if Z1 was doing Z2 he could lift the gate so that A1 could see B1 but not A1. But this was only the beginning because OH MY FRAKING GOD HOW CAN YOU MAKE TELEPORTATION MA
Randy Blackwell
i liked the characters and related to them. i was hooked to the story and though i had a bad feeling about how this book would end i kept reading as i was intrigued. again, just like with the first book spare me the weird teen sex crap, it didn't belong in this story. I felt like the story for this book wasn't finished like it was in the first book. I will read the next one as I'm bought in to the characters and the book and the author. just hoping for what I know Card is capable of in the next ...more
Jeffrey Hamlin
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BJ Fogleman
This sequel to "The Lost Gate" was good but nothing exceptional. I didn't like Danny's interactions with his drowther friends, finding them to be insincere. Most of their dialogue consisted of teenage girls throwing themselves at him "wanting their babies inside of him." Sex? Sure, that makes sense; they're hyperhormonal teenagers, but all wanting to get pregnant? No.

Hopefully the third will be a more mature point of view.
Michael Dillon
The best thing I can say about this one is that, with heavy Editting, it might make a half decent ya book, though Card openly despises them so there is that. Overall it felt very weak and the ending was incredibly abrupt. Also I have to say that Card's homophobia cropped up pretty oddly, with characters randomly proclaiming they weren't gay or really did like to look at breasts.
This is where I make a bunch of hemming and hawwing noises, all the "Hrrrmmmm"s and the "weeelllll"s and such.
Let's start with the good parts:
The writing is good. It makes sense, it flows well, I understood it.
The characters continue from the first book. They don't change much, everything was pretty much as I'd expected. So...good.

But I got bored.

I know. That's awful. And yet, it is true. I just got tired of this story. I like Danny well enough but for someone so powerful, he isn't very interest
I'm giving this book three stars only because Card is one of my favorite authors and the story is interesting. However the female characters of this book were utterly disgusting. All of them were clawing over Danny wanting him to "put a baby in their bellies". Ugh! Poor representation for teenage females, they were more sex crazed than the teenage boy of the book. I almost stopped reading multiple times.

Aside from the sex hungry females the story is interesting with Danny learning more about be
Amy Softa
Ehh...sums up how I feel about this next book in the Mithermages series. After a two year wait I guess I just don't care that much about the series, unlike the Discovery of Witches series where I am not going to lose interest no matter how long the wait. This book was alright, but I needed to ground myself from the internet in order to stick with it long enough to finish. There was just something about the dialog in parts that bothered me, the attitude or immaturity of some background characters ...more
Stephanie Swint
Ok, I'm very on the fence here. I think my real rating is a 2.5. I liked Orson Scott Card's attempt to bring in Egyptian mythology with Norse and Greek Mythology along with Judeo Christian beliefs into his world building and magic system. Orson Scott Card actually refers to this as his boring bits. I believe these were the good bits. He should have focused more on this and the plot.

If you read the first book you meet Danny North who is a Gate Mage and a Gate Father, meaning he can create great g
Sarena Straus
I'm a big Card fan and I was really looking forward to this book, but I walked away with mixed feeling. I give the story 5 stars, for sure. Card is a great story telling and a fantastic world builder and he does not let down with this Book 2 of the Mither Mages series. Card continues a great tale, explaining many unanswered questions from Book 1 and setting up a whole new set of problems for what will be Book 3. I loved the major characters and was definitely invested in what happened to them. A ...more
Brenda Rezk
I really enjoy Card's storytelling, and I've read a number of his books. I thoroughly enjoy his character development and the intricate worlds he creates.

I stayed up late reading this book, eager to find out how the Danny would deal with the brewing war among the Families of Mithermages here on Earth, as well as prepare to battle the Belmage who was sure to seek him out and try to possess him in order to wield his gatefather powers. Would Wad be able to help him in some way? Were we all doomed?
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Besides these and other science fiction novels, Card writes contemporary fantasy (Magic Street, Enchantment, Lost Boys), biblical novels (Stone Tables, Rachel and Leah), the American frontier fantasy series Th
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  • Gatefather (Mither Mages #3)
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