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  <title><![CDATA[If Not, Winter: Fragments of Sappho]]></title>
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  <default_description>&lt;b&gt;If Not, Winter&lt;/b&gt; irresistibly combines the ancient mysteries of Sappho with the contemporary wizardry of acclaimed poet and classicist Anne Carson in what is sure to become the standard translation of Sappho for our time. Presented with the Greek on facing pages, her verses appear here as if on the ragged scraps of papyrus that preserve them. Together with Carson&amp;#8217;s introduction and notes, they provide a tantalizing window into Sappho&amp;#8217;s genius.</default_description>
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    <body><![CDATA[To give you an insight into my character (and my sometimes-silliness)... I love this book so much that I copied out some of the best lines in thick sharpie streaks onto a shirt that I wear so much that it's stained and now rather hard to read. An interesting cyclical thing, sort of, given the flimsi...<a href="http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/4356424">more...</a>]]></body>
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    <body><![CDATA[Love these fragments, which I find all the more moving for their fragmented nature. Sappho has this very quiet, deliberate tone that really appeals to me, and that lets her get away with writing about love without seeming silly. This is the kind of book you can just randomly flip through forever.]]></body>
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    <body><![CDATA[the difference between four stars and five is something categorically different from all star-number differences.  the move from 'i really liked it' to 'it was amazing' is a move away from the the realm of sheer personal pleasure, and toward something externaler.  <br/><br/>this book was often a p...<a href="http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/39566997">more...</a>]]></body>
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    <body><![CDATA[Like an ancient Greek ee cummings. Concupiscent and sumptuous.]]></body>
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    <body><![CDATA[The omission of so many words (lost from the ancient texts) makes this more rumination than actual reading; some poems have only a line or two extant. Only one remains in its entirety.<br/>Still, Sappho comes through. She exists in vibrant phrases - perhaps more wholly because she is so fractured; ...<a href="http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/46235665">more...</a>]]></body>
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  <read_at>Sun Jul 19 00:00:00 -0700 2009</read_at>
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    <body><![CDATA[(<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://5-squared.blogspot.com/2009/07/if-not-winter-by-sappho-trans-anne.html">Original Review</a>)<br/>This is the sort of book that strikes me cleverness dumb. So I will simply begin by telling you what the book is.<br/><br/>If Not, Winter is a collection of all of the known works of Sappho - almost entirely fragments. Sappho was, in ancient Greece, considered one of the two...<a href="http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/56427254">more...</a>]]></body>
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    <review id="5586316">
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  <read_at>Sat Sep 01 00:00:00 -0700 2007</read_at>
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    <body><![CDATA[Anne Carson, poet and Classicist, presents all we have of Sappho in the original Greek and in English translation.  Carson indicates with brackets where the papyrus has simply fallen apart or is incomprehensible, which gives a curious flow to most of the fragments.  When I read this, I heard some of...<a href="http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/5586316">more...</a>]]></body>
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    <review id="70246729">
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    <body><![CDATA[I'm teaching this now. An interesting, extremely spare translation of Sappho. For pure pleasure I prefer Barnard, but Carson is stringently correct, refusing to fill in gaps, in a way that perhaps the real Sappho might approve. Carson also gives a strong sense of the condition of the poems, the hist...<a href="http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/70246729">more...</a>]]></body>
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    <body><![CDATA[The book-itself of this collection (in hardback, at least) is intensely covet-able.  Its facing page is in one of the more gorgeous Greek typefaces I've seen, and it's off-coloring contributes to the sense of difference and antiquation that seems to be a target of the collection's rhetoric.  And the...<a href="http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/3795345">more...</a>]]></body>
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    <review id="5607429">
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    <body><![CDATA[Sappho is one of the greatest poets out of ancient Greece. Her poems are beautiful, personal, and well structured. They also come down to us largely in fragments. Anne Carson, a phenomenal poet in her own right, has used the fragmentary nature of Sappho's surviving oeuvre to create a translation tha...<a href="http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/5607429">more...</a>]]></body>
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    <body><![CDATA[Having finished this, I find that I don't think that I can rate this on any sort of numeric scale.<br/><br/>So little of Sappho has survived that reading this is like listening to a poorly tuned radio; through the noise and static can be caught snatches of voices, conversations, phrases, and on th...<a href="http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/29146350">more...</a>]]></body>
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    <review id="72730033">
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    <body><![CDATA[I'm no expert on Sappho but read this as a preliminary to translating some Catullus and Horace.  I'm always one inclined towards the mysterious, and I've never looked at the Greek, but in any event I found this to be pretty compelling translation and poetry.]]></body>
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    <body><![CDATA[Excellent translation and presentation of the fragmentary remains of Sappho's work. Hopefully someday further poems will surface from this ancient bard--for what we do have shows that she is among the finest poets, not only of ancient Greece, but of all time.]]></body>
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    <body><![CDATA[This collection of fragments is simply majestic.  While I can't help feeling a loss for what didn't survive, Carson's presentation is rich with possibilities.  ]]></body>
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    <body><![CDATA[&quot;the one with violets in her lap<br/>]mostly<br/>]goes astray&quot;<br/><br/>Though they're fragments, I'm completely happy with the resulting poetry.]]></body>
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    <body><![CDATA[Reading this was like standing under a waterfall: loud and powerful and beating my muscles till I was sore and full of story. Beautiful. ]]></body>
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    <review id="40466732">
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    <body><![CDATA[Beautifully translated by Anne Carson, down to the heartbreaking gaps in Sappho's fragmentary ouevre.  Highly recommended.]]></body>
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  <read_at>Sat Aug 22 00:00:00 -0700 2009</read_at>
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  <date_updated>Sat Aug 22 18:14:05 -0700 2009</date_updated>
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    <body><![CDATA[It's hard to find anything substantive to say about this book.  It's basically a translated recreation of a text that barely survived.  That said, Carson recreates what that text must look like, as closely as possible anyway, in English.  The fragments contained in the poems themselves have moments ...<a href="http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/65422983">more...</a>]]></body>
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  <read_at>Mon Jun 01 00:00:00 -0700 2009</read_at>
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    <body><![CDATA[Interesting. Very fragmented. Occasional intriguing phrases...perhaps good prompts I think.]]></body>
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    <body><![CDATA[i loved this book. It always amazes me how much can be said with so little words.]]></body>
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