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The Wild Palms
In this feverishly beautiful novel—originally titled If I Forget Thee, Jerusalem by Faulkner, and now published in the authoritative Library of America text—William Faulkner interweaves two narratives, each wholly absorbing in its own right, each subtly illuminating the other. In New Orleans in 1937, a man and a woman embark on a headlong flight into the wilderness of illi...more
Paperback, 304 pages
Published
October 31st 1995
by Vintage
(first published 1939)
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Charley Patton's 2-part song "High Water Everywhere" is about the same flood portrayed in this book. This little factoid, realized after I finished the book, made me swoon.
I couldn't finish the book the first time I tried, as I was in college and still thought in the back of my head that my girlfriend and I could just drop out and "live on love". The impossibility of this strategy so hammered home in this book really frightened me at the time, but instead of finishing the book and learning my le...more
I couldn't finish the book the first time I tried, as I was in college and still thought in the back of my head that my girlfriend and I could just drop out and "live on love". The impossibility of this strategy so hammered home in this book really frightened me at the time, but instead of finishing the book and learning my le...more
Grandioso.
La singolarità della struttura, unita al virtuosismo dello stile, rischia di mettere a dura prova il lettore meno paziente.
Tuttavia se si entra nel meccanismo e ci si lascia prendere dal ritmo solenne e dal realismo visionario di queste storie, ci si rende conto di trovarsi di fronte a un’opera insolita e di grande valore.
I due romanzi che la compongono, narrati a capitoli alterni, si snodano parallelamente percorrendo luoghi e tempi diversi.
All’apparenza non hanno nulla in comune,...more
La singolarità della struttura, unita al virtuosismo dello stile, rischia di mettere a dura prova il lettore meno paziente.
Tuttavia se si entra nel meccanismo e ci si lascia prendere dal ritmo solenne e dal realismo visionario di queste storie, ci si rende conto di trovarsi di fronte a un’opera insolita e di grande valore.
I due romanzi che la compongono, narrati a capitoli alterni, si snodano parallelamente percorrendo luoghi e tempi diversi.
All’apparenza non hanno nulla in comune,...more
Lievi anticipazioni (non più comunque di quanto appaia nel risguardo)
Generalmente prima di iniziare un nuovo libro, lo sfoglio, lo soppeso, ne leggo il risguardo - per la precisione - lo rileggo. La prima lettura era già avvenuta all'acquisto ma questa nuova è fondamentale per le precedenze, mi deve colpire in quel momento particolare in modo da indicarmi il libro da iniziare. In questo caso, però, tale lettura è stata nociva. Mi ha distratto dal godimento spontaneo del testo. Il lettore viene a...more
Generalmente prima di iniziare un nuovo libro, lo sfoglio, lo soppeso, ne leggo il risguardo - per la precisione - lo rileggo. La prima lettura era già avvenuta all'acquisto ma questa nuova è fondamentale per le precedenze, mi deve colpire in quel momento particolare in modo da indicarmi il libro da iniziare. In questo caso, però, tale lettura è stata nociva. Mi ha distratto dal godimento spontaneo del testo. Il lettore viene a...more
There he is, the Old Man, the river that is something of a deity in the American South. The muddy water that threatens and nurtures and has a will and a force that can not be predicted or tamed, even in our time.
In this book you have a prisoner struggling against the whims of the Mississippi. Convicts are enlisted to rescue stranded peasants. A tall convict is asked if he can row a boat, he says he can, probably because he doesn't know what he is promising. The point is made that this convict al...more
In this book you have a prisoner struggling against the whims of the Mississippi. Convicts are enlisted to rescue stranded peasants. A tall convict is asked if he can row a boat, he says he can, probably because he doesn't know what he is promising. The point is made that this convict al...more
Faulkner. Cada século tem escritores que são seus arautos. O começo do século 20, a decadência de uma forma de vida, absurda, atrasada, injusta, não irá se transformar, pelo fim oficial de um de seus maiores emblemas, o preconceito racial oficial, numa era melhor. Antes o quadro se torna paradoxal e a perspectiva mais sombria. As soluções que restam talvez sejam os pontos altos das grandes obras desse autor. Em Santuário, a volta do advogado para casa, depois de experimentar a liberdade pelo mun...more
I'm an Faulkner addict, slogged my way through Abaslom, Absalom, and fell in love with Light in August. When our bookclub decided to each do a classic, I found this early piece that I had missed during my quest to read all Faulkner. (I got into the early Hollywood junk and gave up but that's another story.) If I Forget Thee Jerusalem, which was published as the Wild Palms over WF's objections, is two stories that never intertwine. I had read one of them, the convict who rescues the pregant woman...more
It wouldn't be fair to give this a 3, so I've gone for a 4. I'm stingy with my stars (precisely for you, dear reader) because I find little value in reviewers who give everything a 5.
Wild Palms lies somewhere between good and brilliant. There's a nice amount to think about, mainly a contrarian relationship between an ill-starred couple trying to be together against the odds, in the face of a society in which the odds are already stacked against them - even without their unconventional choices. T...more
Wild Palms lies somewhere between good and brilliant. There's a nice amount to think about, mainly a contrarian relationship between an ill-starred couple trying to be together against the odds, in the face of a society in which the odds are already stacked against them - even without their unconventional choices. T...more
Two tales told in alternate chapters, one of which is titled “The Wild Palms,” the other “Old Man.” Faulkner’s preferred title for the novel, If I Forget Thee, Jerusalem was over-ruled by his publisher. “The Wild Palms” tells the story of a young doctor and his artist girlfriend who abandon their previous lives (he an intern, she a wife, mother and bohemian hostess) to nurse a romantic passion that won’t blow out in the winds of societal respectability and expectations. The protagonist of the “O...more
Mar 16, 2013
Victoria Young
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The two novellas that together make up Wild Palms (aka If I Forget Thee, Jerusalem) are at first glance quite different stories: The first (Wild Palms), featuring an idealistic unmarried couple striving to live an authentic, passionate life, meanders all over America from the Gulf Coast to Chicago to the Colorado mountains; the second (Old Man) is closely anchored to the geography of the Mississippi Delta and provides a convict's insight into the disastrous flood of 1927. Where Wild Palms is an...more
¡¡¡Leído por Jose María Pou!!! Jo. Qué manera de leer, madre mía. Qué gozada.
Vale, ya está. Uno de los mejores libros que he leído ultimamente pero el que más me ha echo sufrir con diferencia.
Son dos historias que se intercalan sin que tengan nada que ver la una con la otra. Aunque una de ellas tiene mucha más intensidad y duración.
Leerla es como ver una película de cine negro descarnado y despiadado, llena de frases y conversaciones lapidarias y no lógicas del todo.
La historia principal va de u...more
Vale, ya está. Uno de los mejores libros que he leído ultimamente pero el que más me ha echo sufrir con diferencia.
Son dos historias que se intercalan sin que tengan nada que ver la una con la otra. Aunque una de ellas tiene mucha más intensidad y duración.
Leerla es como ver una película de cine negro descarnado y despiadado, llena de frases y conversaciones lapidarias y no lógicas del todo.
La historia principal va de u...more
Greatest Faulkner book I have read so far! Fan-bloody-tastic. I liked this even better than Absalom! Absalom! And it was much easier to follow.
The Wild Palms is a novel which actually consists of two different stories. Faulkner decided to interweave two different stories to build each respective story more towards its climax. Faulkner actually wanted to call this novel If I Forget Thee, Jerusalem but his editors insisted on calling it The Wild Palms, the title of ONE of the two stories in this n...more
The Wild Palms is a novel which actually consists of two different stories. Faulkner decided to interweave two different stories to build each respective story more towards its climax. Faulkner actually wanted to call this novel If I Forget Thee, Jerusalem but his editors insisted on calling it The Wild Palms, the title of ONE of the two stories in this n...more
The continuing saga of my traipsing (at long last) through the genius of Fualkner.
What carries this book the most is the imagery - in here are some of the most mesmerizing descriptions of landscape (possibly some of the most amazing known to human history). The description of a land covered in flood is awe-inspiring, to both character and reader alike. In this one we have two separate narratives that revolve on love and the nature of man and woman with a young doctor who falls in love with a mar...more
What carries this book the most is the imagery - in here are some of the most mesmerizing descriptions of landscape (possibly some of the most amazing known to human history). The description of a land covered in flood is awe-inspiring, to both character and reader alike. In this one we have two separate narratives that revolve on love and the nature of man and woman with a young doctor who falls in love with a mar...more
My mother asked me what I thought of it, and mentioned that she thought it sounded kind of "steamy" from the GoodReads summary, so this started out as a comment on her comment and then turned into a general commentary/review so I thought it would make more sense to just make my official comment lol.
I thought it was excellent. there's not really a lot of explicit sex in it, so i wouldn't call it steamy so much as "shocking" in the context of the times. there's a mention of using a douche, there'...more
I thought it was excellent. there's not really a lot of explicit sex in it, so i wouldn't call it steamy so much as "shocking" in the context of the times. there's a mention of using a douche, there'...more
This is a story, in fact two juxtaposed stories, about flawed people blundering through life, fate against them, misdirected values, inevitable outcomes, all told via stream of consciousness prose for which Faulkner is famous. This is the second Faulkner novel I have read, both of which after reading a biography of his life. He was a complex, conflicted man, full of ideation and of dubious morals. Once I allowed myself to get in sync with the cadence of Faulkner's style of writing, I fell in lov...more
Between the needlessly strange structure--two novels with no direct connection to each other told in alternating chapters, both of which use frames--and the language--a distant third narrator writing in extremely lengthy sentences left too long on the boil, with dialogue that often sounds like old Hollywood speak ("Do it, Jack. Just do it. It's no good, see?"), it's no surprise that Wild Palms is not part of the Faulkner canon. And really the Wild Palms portion of the novel, which deals with Har...more
I’m not sure where to begin when talking about The Wild Palms. Perhaps by clarifying that The Wild Palms is the publisher’s chosen name for If I Forget Thee, Jerusalem, Faulkner’s preferred title, and that it is also one of two intertwined stories in the book published under that title. A friend insisted that I read it, that it would probably become my new favorite book, but that I also might want to throw it against a wall when I finished. As usual, he was annoyingly right.
The Wild Palms was my...more
The Wild Palms was my...more
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Nie czuję się odpowiednią grupą docelową, są pewnie tacy, którym pasowałoby to dużo bardziej. Ewentualnie mi kilka lat temu, mając tych lat 17 czy 20...
często powracające zdanie (głownego bohatera): nie jestem tu nikomu do niczego potrzebny; częsta nuda i nieskończona pustka. wybrane jako lepsze od monotonii, od mieszczańskiego schematu bytowania-trwania w czasie-życia bez życia.
więc skoro nie jesteś potrzebny tu, zrób coś, znajdź się tam,gdzie jesteś potrzebny! marazm znany mi kiedyś, ale dziś...more
często powracające zdanie (głownego bohatera): nie jestem tu nikomu do niczego potrzebny; częsta nuda i nieskończona pustka. wybrane jako lepsze od monotonii, od mieszczańskiego schematu bytowania-trwania w czasie-życia bez życia.
więc skoro nie jesteś potrzebny tu, zrób coś, znajdź się tam,gdzie jesteś potrzebny! marazm znany mi kiedyś, ale dziś...more
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I'm only giving this book 3 stars even though it's by Faulkner, because it was a complete drag to read. I mean, it was painful. That said, I still liked the twist at the end, it was wicked and unexpected (ok, it wouldn't have been totally unexpected if I really thought about it), and the twist really enliven the book. And since the twist doesn't come until near the end of the book, I don't feel the book picks up the pace until the end either. Also, I have a feeling this is just Faulkner's writin...more
Oh my !!! What did I get myself into ??? I decided to read this book as it was one of Julia Robert's favorite picks from Oprah's book club site. I have never read anything by William Faulkner and probably will not again. His sentences ramble with scarce punctuation, and left me re-reading segments to better understand what he was trying to say. I felt his writing was confusing and a real challenge to read.
Yes! There were two stories here - "The Wild Palms" and "The Old Man". I guess you might sa...more
Yes! There were two stories here - "The Wild Palms" and "The Old Man". I guess you might sa...more
Um dos livros mais conhecidos de Faulkner, em parte pela frase "Given the choice between the experience of pain and nothing, I would choose pain." Formado por duas novelas entrelaçadas.
I’ve come to find that I tend to read as two different people, the writer and the reader. What each of these personalities likes and appreciates in a novel can be completely different. The reader is looking for plot and character, a fun story with interesting characters that pulls me into the book and prevents me from putting it down. The writer is looking for technique and word use, a well structured sentence or paragraph with deep description and intriguing word choice that leaves me in awe....more
I bought this as If I Forget Thee Jerusalem from the Auburn bookstore on a whim, a strange Faulkner whim. It is pretty much two completely separate stories that alternate chapters. They are so different (one about a couple at a house on the beach and the other about a prisoner and a pregnant women on washed down the Mississippi in a great flood) that they set each other off in relief. But other than that I don't see any reason they are woven together. The flood story is memorable and interesting...more
This is an early Faulkner, really two stories told with one chapter telling the first story (The Wild Palms), the next chapter the other story (Old Man), etc. The book was originally titled If I Forget Thee, Jerusalem which only makes sense if you understand what that means, I don't. It's the kind of writing that I appreciate from Faulkner, often one has to just keep reading until you understand what is going on, because it's not all that clear, but you do finally and are rewarded. It is a fever...more
prix nobel de littérature 1949
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C'est le roman de Faulkner où la souffrance atteint peut-être sa plus grande intensité : l'histoire tragique des deux amants est l'une des plus douloureuses qu'il ait écrites, et la mort de Charlotte Rittenmeyer, « le personnage féminin le plus déchirant de Faulkner », devient un récit poignant.
Le titre est tiré d'un psaume qui rappelle la captivité des Juifs à Babylone. Ce thème de la captivité, de la privation de liberté, littérale ou métaphorique, est central d...more
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C'est le roman de Faulkner où la souffrance atteint peut-être sa plus grande intensité : l'histoire tragique des deux amants est l'une des plus douloureuses qu'il ait écrites, et la mort de Charlotte Rittenmeyer, « le personnage féminin le plus déchirant de Faulkner », devient un récit poignant.
Le titre est tiré d'un psaume qui rappelle la captivité des Juifs à Babylone. Ce thème de la captivité, de la privation de liberté, littérale ou métaphorique, est central d...more
My book jacket says The Wild Palms is really two stories, contrasting two different kinds of love. Charlotte and Harry sacrifice everything for love only to lose it. The tall convict gives up everything to get away from love.
I don’t agree with this analysis. To me, the book compares a so-called "free" life with a disciplined, duty-bound, commited life.
In Wild Palms, Harry gives up a promising career as a medical doctor to run away with a married woman. In The Old Man, the tall convict unwittin...more
I don’t agree with this analysis. To me, the book compares a so-called "free" life with a disciplined, duty-bound, commited life.
In Wild Palms, Harry gives up a promising career as a medical doctor to run away with a married woman. In The Old Man, the tall convict unwittin...more
By no means my favorite Faulkner book, but still pretty amazing. I did seem to get lost more in the stream of consciousness than I have in other Faulkner novels. I need to ruminate on this novel for a while. The interlacing of the two unrelated narratives was both unique and sometimes bothersome. Bothersome only because it's unclear what the purpose is. Obviously both are about relationships, incarceration, and the true meaning of freedom, but how much does one story influence the reading or und...more
This is a very famous flood that is referenced in many novels, this book is referenced in the book my boyfriend was reading just after I finished this one. That book is: "Hellfire: The Jerry Lee Lewis Story" by Nick Tosches
What eloquence. I can't wait to read more faulkner. His sentences were mesmerizing in length and thought and still this small novel tied two stories together so well. Like the flooded tributaries of the Mississippi, so is this book on my mind.
Its theme of struggle the current...more
What eloquence. I can't wait to read more faulkner. His sentences were mesmerizing in length and thought and still this small novel tied two stories together so well. Like the flooded tributaries of the Mississippi, so is this book on my mind.
Its theme of struggle the current...more
In this feverishly beautiful novel—originally titled If I Forget Thee, Jerusalem by Faulkner, and now published in the authoritative Library of America text—William Faulkner interweaves two narratives, each wholly absorbing in its own right, each subtly illuminating the other. In New Orleans in 1937, a man and a woman embark on a headlong flight into the wilderness of illicit passion, fleeing her husband and the temptations of respectability. In Mississippi ten years earlier, a convict sets fort...more
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William Cuthbert Faulkner was a Nobel Prize-winning American novelist and short story writer. One of the most influential writers of the twentieth century, his reputation is based mostly on his novels, novellas, and short stories. He was also a published poet and an occasional screenwriter.
The majority of his works are based in his native state of Mississippi. Though his work was published as earl...more
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Floods, surely... but this one's a kind of hybrid -...more
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