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Please Kill Me: The Uncensored Oral History of Punk (An Evergreen book)
A Time Out and Daily News Top Ten Book of the Year upon its initial release, Please Kill Me is the first oral history of the most nihilist of all pop movements. Iggy Pop, Danny Fields, Dee Dee and Joey Ramone, Malcom McLaren, Jim Carroll, and scores of other famous and infamous punk figures lend their voices to this definitive account of that outrageous, explosive era. Fro...more
Paperback, 488 pages
Published
April 13th 2006
by Grove Press
(first published May 13th 1996)
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Dec 31, 2012
matt
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people taking tallys on the amount of STD's the MC5 acrewed
As an avid reader (and subsequent loather) of "punk rock" history, I was excited to get into this. And although I didn't get exactly what I was looking for, it's certainly worth a read for those who can stomach it.
I can't claim to not like oral histories having only previously read the "People's Oral History" by Zinn which is a blood orange compared to Wayne Kramers' red delicious. That being said, I found this book far too gossipy and "sceney" making me think that cliques in music existed long...more
I can't claim to not like oral histories having only previously read the "People's Oral History" by Zinn which is a blood orange compared to Wayne Kramers' red delicious. That being said, I found this book far too gossipy and "sceney" making me think that cliques in music existed long...more
I read most of this one night while working the graveyard shift at a very institutional group home in the real methy part of SE Portland. I was the only person awake and not severely mentally-ill in the whole building, except for the parole guys, who I was pretty sure were faking it, or at least greatly exaggerating. There were these big sliding glass doors where of course the methhead psychos lurking in the dark could watch me mopping, all lit up, but I couldn't see out, and most nights I'd be...more
If you love gossipy oral histories, this is the book for you. It's probably better if you're familiar with the music, but that's not a prerequisite. And it's often hysterically funny, depending on who's being interviewed -- Richard Lloyd and Richard Hell both made me laugh out loud a number of times.
One of the best parts: several people are talking about how completely talentless Jim Morrison was, and Ray Manzarek comes along saying, "Jim was a shaman." Hahahahahaha what an ass. I'll let Danny F...more
One of the best parts: several people are talking about how completely talentless Jim Morrison was, and Ray Manzarek comes along saying, "Jim was a shaman." Hahahahahaha what an ass. I'll let Danny F...more
As any decent music fan will testify, punk was not an English invention. It started in the suburbs or Detroit and New York in the 60's. Bands like The Velvet Underground, The Stooges and The MC5 fired up a generation that included The New York Dolls and The Ramones. The fact that the movement was named Punk long before the Sex Pistols and the Clash came on the scene should give punk fans a decent history lesson.
Nevertheless, this is an oral history so the history is told through quotes from such...more
Nevertheless, this is an oral history so the history is told through quotes from such...more
At times I can't help but think that Legs McNeil gives himself a little too much credit in terms of defining what came to be known as "punk" or "punk rock." However, one thing you could never take away from Legs is this amazing book. Out of all the same old rehashed books on the history of rock music, "Please Kill Me" is not only refreshing, but it may be the definitive source on the underground rock and roll culture from the '60s onward. It was wise for the stories to be told in an oral history...more
I absolutely inhaled this. Legs' view is that punk was a strictly American phenomenon with its roots in The Doors, The Velvet Underground, The MC5, & The Stooges, and that the British got it completely wrong and basically killed the movement. And he presents that argument well.
Pretty much everyone in the book appears to be exactly what I already thought:
* Jim Morrison was often drunk and frequently terrible live, and wrote really bad high school-grade poetry.
* David Bowie was a rather uptigh...more
Pretty much everyone in the book appears to be exactly what I already thought:
* Jim Morrison was often drunk and frequently terrible live, and wrote really bad high school-grade poetry.
* David Bowie was a rather uptigh...more
i loved this book. i picked it up on a whim, thinking "hm, i don't really know enough about punk," and i couldn't put it down. (which became amusing: what's LESS punk than opting out of a crazy fun party on a friday night to stay in and read a book about punk?)
the book is compiled entirely of excerpts from interviews with all the people who were involved in the New York punk scene. Leggs McNeil, the author, was one of the founders of Punk! magazine, and was actually the person who came up with t...more
the book is compiled entirely of excerpts from interviews with all the people who were involved in the New York punk scene. Leggs McNeil, the author, was one of the founders of Punk! magazine, and was actually the person who came up with t...more
when i was a kid and i would whine about not getting new shoes or some stupid shit my mom would sing that old Rolling Stones song, "You can't always get what you want" only she wouldn't sing it she would talk it like it was some ancient wisdom from the lips of Plato inserting pauses to let the complicated cadence of his words sink in, "but if you try some time...you just might find... you get what you need." It always pissed me off and made me embarrassed that my mom thought she was being cool q...more
The explicit redundancy of the punk scene is offensive. While some of the stories are interesting and the first hand account of it all is better than most, it's just boring. Listening to how f'd up people get has become tiresome. It isn't awesome anymore.
That said, some of the stories are pretty ok. If you're a disillusioned person looking for something to hang on to look no further. Your rebellious ways are all documented and ... shockingly enough ... they happened more than 30 years ago. It's...more
That said, some of the stories are pretty ok. If you're a disillusioned person looking for something to hang on to look no further. Your rebellious ways are all documented and ... shockingly enough ... they happened more than 30 years ago. It's...more
must love music. this book is massive.
Danny Fields on Andy Warhol and The Factory scene:
"Everybody was in love with everybody. We were all kids, and it was like high school. I mean it was like when I was sixteen, this one likes this one this week, and this one doesn't like that one this week, but likes this one, and there are all these triangles. I mean it wasn't terribly serious. It just happened to be people who later on became very famous because they were so sexy and beautiful, but we didn'...more
Danny Fields on Andy Warhol and The Factory scene:
"Everybody was in love with everybody. We were all kids, and it was like high school. I mean it was like when I was sixteen, this one likes this one this week, and this one doesn't like that one this week, but likes this one, and there are all these triangles. I mean it wasn't terribly serious. It just happened to be people who later on became very famous because they were so sexy and beautiful, but we didn'...more
I waited for what seemed like months for this book to become available at the library. I’m happy to report that it was, in fact, worth the anticipation. Like many (many!) books on the history of punk rock, Please Kill Me conveys its information through interviews with prominent individuals directly or indirectly involved with the scene. Unlike other histories, however, Please Kill Me focuses much, much more heavily on the history of protopunk -- The Velvet Underground, The New York Dolls, Lou Re...more
i've read quite a few books on this topic, the best being about 80's and 90's underground music like Rites of Spring, Minor Threat, mission of burma, Big Black etc, azerrad's book is superlative in its history and writing
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/53...
and then the more typical punkwriting of bangs et al
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/46...
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/91...
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/35...
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http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/53...
and then the more typical punkwriting of bangs et al
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/46...
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/91...
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/35...
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/11...
http://www.goodreads.com/bo...more
Goodreads defines the five-star rating as "It was amazing." I've given books five-star ratings before, then asked myself, "Was it amazing?", and then had to admit to myself that the answer was "no" and changed my rating accordingly. In the case of Please Kill Me I don't even have to think about it. It was amazing. I've read it three times and I'm sure before long I'll probably make it four. Greatest rock 'n' roll book ever and one of the greatest oral histories ever.
From Please Kill Me: The Uncensored Oral History of Punk Rock:
Dee Dee Ramone: "Sid Vicious followed me all over the place. This was before he was in the Sex Pistols. He was very nice and very innocent. I saw him all the time. The worst time was one night when we had a big party. It was the summer, and in London there's no air conditioning. It was at a place called Country Cousin or Country Club, where everybody had their parties. They were serving beer and wine, and everybody was bombed. The who...more
Dee Dee Ramone: "Sid Vicious followed me all over the place. This was before he was in the Sex Pistols. He was very nice and very innocent. I saw him all the time. The worst time was one night when we had a big party. It was the summer, and in London there's no air conditioning. It was at a place called Country Cousin or Country Club, where everybody had their parties. They were serving beer and wine, and everybody was bombed. The who...more
Punk rockers would make terrible dinner party guests. They will break your good china and roll around in the shards. They will defacate on the dessert. They will shoot up in your bathroom. They will hit on your grandmother. They also should make for interesting reading and, for the most part, the book delivered. I learned:
*Nico drank good wine.
*Phil Spector drank bad wine.
*Nancy Spungen was advised to go to England to clean up and kick her serious drug habit. That's where she met Sid Vicious.
*Ev...more
*Nico drank good wine.
*Phil Spector drank bad wine.
*Nancy Spungen was advised to go to England to clean up and kick her serious drug habit. That's where she met Sid Vicious.
*Ev...more
A few years ago I went to one of the last punk-ish parties I've been to, with many of my scene friends who, like me, are no longer scene. We're out on a porch smoking, and see a pack of teenage punks come by - dressed like we used to (we can't be bothered any more) - posing and disdainful. And my ex-boyfriend, a drummer in a punk band, said one of the most insightful things he's ever said to me: "You know what the best part of not being punk anymore is?" he asked, rhetorically. "Not being punk a...more
Please Kill Me puts stories to the music of 70's American Punk. A lot of this is just party stories--albeit good ones—and they do a great job of illustrating the scene as well as the society at large it was counter to. I sometimes forget that society at large was still shaping the scene, not least of all, the ghetto of hard drugs. Today's punk scenes are so different, so much more positive, and healthier, in fact. You know, when art kids and punks slum it today, it's just not the same. Kids toda...more
This is really the definitive history of punk (at least in the USA) and covers the pre-history (VU, Stoohes, New York Dolls) as well as the birth of the New York scene with the Ramones, Talkking Heads, Blondie etc. The book is a great read - almost everybody that was part of the scene and was around is in the book and the stories they tell are incredibly hilarious and fascinating. If you're interested in the music (as I most certainly am) it's impossible to put this book down. This actually came...more
Apr 29, 2012
Jim Leckband
rated it
4 of 5 stars
Recommends it for:
Not idolalizers of Patti Smith or Lou Reed. Anyone intested in honest music.
Thirty years ago I played a lot of Ultimate frisbee. If you don't know much about it, let's just say that the game started out as a kind of anti-sport for free spirits. Sure there is scoring, but the "goal", so to speak, was to be in the moment - making the perfect pass, the perfect catch, the perfect run. There are no referees, not much arguing and if there is you just do a do-over - at the heart is the "spirit of the game" ethos which is all inclusive. There were no "plays" or organized defens...more
This was ok. Good window into some of the minds of the major players of punk, but it seems to be the history of punk according to what Legs McNeil thinks is important rather than a more encompassing portrait. It's basically the history of the NY punk scene with some side bits about the Sex Pistols. It seems to begin like all punk histories with a brief story of the Velvet Underground. I love them too, but let's broaden our horizons a little. The VU was not solely responsible for punk. I guess I...more
Aug 12, 2010
Spiros
rated it
5 of 5 stars
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review of another edition
Recommends it for:
anyone looking for an exhaustive history of the birth of Punk
A decidedly parochial, insular, and completely invaluable account of the birth and death of Punk. McNeil traces the movement from its inception, with the Velvet Underground, its fertilization by the the Detroit strain (the MC5 and the Stooges), through the glitter phase (the New York Dolls), to its full flowering with Patti Smith, Television, and the Ramones. Then he reveals the collapse which set in immediately afterwards. We follow, in both the first and third person, the trajectories of such...more
A harrowing account of the most powerful art movement of the last 50 years. The scope of the tale is Shakespearean, as just about everybody dies in the end. The great irony for me was that I've always felt that most of the bands from America in this movement were terrible (The New York Dolls; Richard Hell; The Dead Boys) because they were doing nothing more than a new take on rockabilly with loads of vile tales of their own degrading drug use. It was the British bands and the movement toward soc...more
people who dislike the format of this book obviously ignored the title. beyond that i dont know how one can ignore Legs' gift for editing. sometimes it seems like he's setting these snippets up just to knock them all down with the summarizing paragraph of another first-hand witness that comes off like a punchline to end the chapter. reads like a documentary at times.
people who complain that the book doesnt address the west coast scene, more of the UK variety, or "punk" as a genre into the 80s an...more
people who complain that the book doesnt address the west coast scene, more of the UK variety, or "punk" as a genre into the 80s an...more
It's nice to know that Patti Smith can be as much as a fan-girl as me. I guess this is a sort of "kill your idols" book (especially after you read about Lou Reed-YIKES!), but what can I say, I still think Iggy Pop is pretty awesome. What's great about this book is it's purely anecdotal, and the egotistical rock critic romanticism is completely stripped away.
Please Kill Me lost me towards the end, however. The editing could have been better-I mean, I only need to read so many accounts about the...more
Please Kill Me lost me towards the end, however. The editing could have been better-I mean, I only need to read so many accounts about the...more
Considered by many to be the authoratative history of the rise of the U.S. Punk music movement of the 1970's, beginning with it's early origins, centering heavily on the New York scene(touching briefly on the U.K. scene as well), this is an exhaustively researched "oral history," as told by those who lived within the punk scene and created the music. It was compiled by Legs McNeil (along with Gillian McCain) who, as co-founder of "Punk Magazine," was there to witness it all as it took place. Ess...more
A spectacular recounting of Punk's origins through quotes and interview excerpts. I particularly dig that the author started with Warhol's Factory crew and the Velvet Underground before proceeding to the more commonly mentioned progenitors the MC5. Indeed, the book spends plenty of time setting up the emergence of punk in the late 70s.
The toll of the era's hard-living decadence is clearly illustrated by the number of people that died during or after the events recounted in the book. There are pl...more
The toll of the era's hard-living decadence is clearly illustrated by the number of people that died during or after the events recounted in the book. There are pl...more
I love this book & have read & re-read it many times since it came home with me from Half-Price Books in the U-District in Seattle. I was out of stuff to read last night & headed to the library today so I pulled this out to tide me over.
First, this is an oral history & I love good oral history. Studs Terkel has always been a huge hero of mine & Legs McNeil is way on up there with this book.
Next, this is a wonderful collection of words & musing about the American punk scen...more
First, this is an oral history & I love good oral history. Studs Terkel has always been a huge hero of mine & Legs McNeil is way on up there with this book.
Next, this is a wonderful collection of words & musing about the American punk scen...more
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Roderick Edward "Legs" McNeil (b. 1956 in Cheshire, Connecticut), is the co-founder and a writer for Punk Magazine. He is also a former senior editor at Spin Magazine, and the founder and editor of Nerve magazine (print only; 1992).
At the age of 18, disgusted with the hippie movement that seemed to be going nowhere, McNeil gathered with two high school friends, John Holmstrom and Ged Dunn, and dec...more
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“The old sound was alcoholic. The tradition was finally broken. The music is sex and drugs and happy. And happy is the joke the music understands best. Ultra sonic sounds on records to cause frontal lobotomies. Hey, don't be afraid. You'd better take drugs and learn to love PLASTIC. All diffrent kinds of plastic- pliable, rigid, colored, colorful, nonattached plastic. - Lou Reed (1965-1968)”
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“Rock & Roll is so great, people should start dying for it. You don't understand. The music gave you back the beat so you could dream. A whole generation running with a Fender bass...
The people just have to die for the music. People are dying for everything else, so why not the music? Die for it. Isn't it pretty? Wouldn't you die for something pretty?
Perhaps I should die. After all, all the great blues singers did die. But life is getting better now.
I don't want to die. Do I? - Lou Reed (1965-1968)”
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The people just have to die for the music. People are dying for everything else, so why not the music? Die for it. Isn't it pretty? Wouldn't you die for something pretty?
Perhaps I should die. After all, all the great blues singers did die. But life is getting better now.
I don't want to die. Do I? - Lou Reed (1965-1968)”

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