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Les Enfants de l'esprit (The Ender Quintet #5)

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Published (first published August 1st 1996)
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Greg Fishbone
I know several readers, myself included, who were blown away by Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card. They then found the sequel, Speaker for the Dead, to be equally as riveting and eagerly reached for Xenocide, book three in the series, with the highest of expectations--only to be slammed with disappointment. This otherwise serviceable book, with an original premise and interesting characters, crashes to an unsatisfying and confusing ending that combines the worst attributes of deus ex machina and ...more
Wraps up the series neatly enough . . . until you stop to think about how ridiculous the entire premise is or how annoying it is that everything seems to fit so nicely together.

I suppose I have to recant the part of my Xenocide review where I called the "birth" of Peter and Young Val "unnecessary." That was obviously a crucial episode for what Card had in store for the series conclusion. But I still won't take back the opinion that it's annoying.

Positives: After starting slowly, the plot did pic
Dec 03, 2013 Jacob rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
September 2009
Previously: Xenocide

The fleet sent by Starways Congress to destroy the planet Lusitania is getting closer. Any day now. No, really, it'll be here soon, promise! The good news is: Jane, the intelligent supercomputer program, has figured out faster-than-light travel, so the evacuation of Lusitania's native and foreign species is ongoing. The bad news: Congress is trying to shut Jane down. The Lusitania Fleet is on its way (really!). Ender is divided into three bodies (by-product of s
Dec 03, 2013 Goldie rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
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Alain Dewitt
Mar 13, 2014 Alain Dewitt rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: 2013
I just finished this book and I read it not too long after reading 'Xenocide'. I really should review 'Xenocide' but I wanted to get this out while it was still fresh since 'Children of the Mind' was so awful. A full review of 'Xenocide', though, isn't really necessary since both books are terrible and suffer from the same flaws.

The big problem with this book is that Card violates the 'Show, Don't Tell' rule of writing. This book consists almost exclusively of long dialogue between characters an
Aug 06, 2010 Christopher rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Whoo, finished, finally. Sometimes you get sucked in a series and you just can't wait until its over because of the command over your whole attention that it has on you. Andrew Wiggin is somebody who we would all like to become; understanding, compassionate, brilliant, and charitable. Yet he is a tragic character who carries the burden of humanity on his shoulders, always taking on more responsibility than is seemed his share.

This final novel is the fast paced, engaging, climax to the series. Sp
Spider the Doof Warrior
I have to find that quote in this book that PISSES ME OFF. It made me take away a star.

Why so RACIST? To asians and whites! Ever think that maybe Peter just wants to sit in a chair because chairs are more comfortable than kneeling?

Sorry, but what he wrote about Hiroshima and Nagasaki is OFFENSIVE AS ALL FUCK!

I hate this book. I hate OSC's writing. Why did I EVER think he was a good writer?

Oh, that is IT Orson Scott Card. I'm going to go out and DESTROY THE NUCLEAR FAMILY! I will destroy gender
I wanted to love this. I really did - after all, I love Miro, who is given a lot more page space, and I was excited to see what Peter would bring to the table. But after Xenocide, it was pretty weak.

Now to make a few comments (ehem, rants)…
a) Why is it that the only truly negative bits in the series come from the women? You know, the only truly unforgivable, unredeemable, unreasonable, and supremely infuriating bits… Let me summarize what these bits were: QUARA, Qing-Jao, and Novinha. Welcome t
May 09, 2013 Mario rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
Don't get me wrong, Orson Scott Card is one of the greats. Ender's series is one of the best series of all time. However, this book was his weakest due to being monotonous and preachy. The characters were going back and forth, stating the same dialogues. I understand the message and the characters' purposes, but the book lasted way too long; thus,I barely finished the book. Of course, there were many moments, but the bad outweighs the good.
4.0 to 4.5 stars. Book four of the classic Ender series. Not quite as good as the previous books but still excellent and highly recommended.
Dec 22, 2011 Kevin rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
I couldn't wait to finish this book. The Ender quartet started so strong and got progressively worse with each book. I hated who the characters became in this book (particularly Wang-Mu) and the long-winded monologues about the difficult love relationships got excessive. The tired philosophy and ruminations on the human condition were boring and unwanted.

Children of the Mind started with so much potential but it was poorly executed. I was really hoping to see the ruthless Peter emerge, having b
Sep 19, 2010 Asa rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
Well, now I've finished the "Ender Quartet" (or saga, as it's called here) at a very leisurely pace. The first book, Ender's Game, was excellent. Second was Speaker For The Dead, which was great. Then there were Xenocide and this one, both of which were merely okay.

It seems that Xenocide and Children Of The Mind were originally meant to be one book. I suspect that if Xenocide had stayed within its own borders, it would have been much better. These two books are weighed down by a lot of ideas. Th
Shayna L
Apr 02, 2008 Shayna L rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Children of the Mind flows from the rest of the Ender saga. Aside from the issues that carry over from the previous book, there's less focus on all the philosophy in the universe and more story. It's mostly about Jane and her bid for survival along side all the peoples and aliens on the world of Lusitania. Like the other books, it's pretty enthralling and opens up the type of moral and philosophical issues that probably have entire sections of the library dedicated to understanding them.
The big
Aug 25, 2011 Matt rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
This book actually led me to break two rules of mine: 1) Never give up on a book more than 30 pages in, and 2) Nobody needs to read my review of a book, so what's the point in writing one. But this time I just... I just couldn't do it.

What I loved about Ender's Game was that it's not a blatant, lasers'n'aliens sci-fi novel (although there is NOTHING wrong with laser'n'aliens), so much as it's the story of a boy placed in relatively difficult circumstances, "up against it" if you will, who learns
Dr Bolderdash
Ender's game was really fun and interesting read. It made me excited to explore more of Card's work. With each subsequent book of the Ender Saga I have enjoyed it less and less.

Throughout the entire series there has been a strong drive to explore philosophical notions of war and survival and the connections between people. In Ender's game it is not too heavy handed and mostly submerged beneath the narrative. By Children of the Mind Card might as well be bludgeoning you over the head with it.

I h
Warren Pagel
The last book in the sci-fi series following Ender Wiggin is disappointing to say the least. It takes all of the amazing characters introduced in Ender's Game, Speaker for the Dead, and Xenocide and devolves them into what boils down to a soap-opera-in-space.

Card excels at creating interesting characters, but he obviously struggles with writing romance; this is all the more apparent when, in a series that until this book never had any focus on romance between characters, suddenly has romance fo
Feb 06, 2015 Evan rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
This is more of a review for the entire series.
I didn't care much for the first book (Ender's Game), but the surprise ending captivated me enough to read the next book (plus the series was a Christmas present and I didn't want to leave it unread). The second book (Speaker for the Dead) was much better and I love the Speaker for the Dead idea. This is where things in the book get complicated. The third book (Xenocide), whoa, huge leap in time, love how chaotic everything is with the race to save
Jun 19, 2007 Djuna rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
These books are a great combo of sci-fi and philosophy, but I feel like the Ender series begins with the best book and then they gradually lose appeal. The first book in the series was skillfully crafted to weave complex strategy lessons for a child, and I was very pleased with how clever the author was, with only a few areas that were a bit heavy-handed. The subsequent books got a bit more convoluted, and lost some of the brilliance. It seemed like Card spent most of his effort on coming up wit ...more
Jun 17, 2015 Arielle rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
A solid conclusion to the Ender Quartet.

It was thoughtfully written and obviously much more than just a science fiction book.

A few of my favorite quotes:

"But we were there, and during the time we lived, we were alive. That's the truth—what is, what was, what will be—not what could be, what should have been, what never can be. If we die, then our death has meaning to the rest of the universe. Even if our lives are unknown, the fact that someone lived here, and died, that will have repercussions
Duffy Pratt
In each successive book, Card seems to have honed in on the worst points of the last book and then used them as the focus for the new one. This one mostly involves Ender's very serious identity crisis. He's three different people at once, and apparently has barely enough lifeforce or whatever to sustain two lives at once. So something's got to give.

In the meantime, the Lusitania fleet is still hurtling toward the poor planet, and any minute now it might utterly destroy it. One of Ender's selves
Jeff Yoak
This book was depressingly awful for me. I've loved this series. Early on I committed to drudging through it as a series with seven novels (before this one) and 9 short stories, ranging from good reads to loved, calls for great patience in reading the last story. I just couldn't make it. "Life is too short." took over.

The first full half of the novel consists of pairing off characters, sending them to remote locations, and then switching between scenes of the pairs bickering with each other. Ter
Salman Mehedy Titas
Let me start off with saying how appropriate the name is. Otherwise, it is also intriguing, fast-paced and entertaining. I was unable to keep the book down for even five minutes when I wasn't wasting time eating, or socializing or performing other mundane earthly activities.

The story of Ender finally comes to the end the circle. The story that began with the First Xenocide, and was to end at the Second. The story is assisted by two new unexpected characters, The Children, who drive the core plot
May 28, 2011 John rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
After reading the earlier books in the series, the final installment was really a disappointment. However, since this was essentially the second half of Xenocide (which I actually enjoyed), I pushed myself to finish the book to find out what happens to Ender, the Piggies, the Descolada virus, etc. Sadly, those topics where overwhelmed by the pages and pages devoted to the love stories which were seemingly modeled after a supernatural tween romance. This can be exemplified with the following pass ...more
Oct 09, 2012 Scott rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
By far the Ender's book I enjoyed the least. It's overwrought with half-baked, twice-explained philosophical discussions that add very little in terms of content, while doubling the page count. Every chapter is full of extended monologues that come out of nowhere, don't seem realistic, and appear to simply appease the author's need expound upon purely theoretical philosophies in worlds that, by definition, only exist in his head/stories, since its fiction. In Xenocide, Card is able to keep the d ...more
Jul 30, 2010 Neil rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: sf, hospital
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Apr 06, 2012 Brett rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
What could have been the saving grace of the Ender series, ends up being another way to further cast Ender as unimportant and a memory of the past.

Card artfully finds a way to resolve all of the conflicts in this conclusion to the series. However, instead of placing rationality between the characters and their relationships, he causes silly events, like people getting married who know almost nothing about each other and allowing one of the anti-heroes to consume the good, true heroes, well befor
Leo Walsh
My least favorite book of the Ender saga. This is not science fiction. Instead, Card uses accepted science (he uses a plausible "consciousnesses is needed to create reality by collapsing the quantum probability wave" interpretation of quantum mechanics... one framework among many that would lead to the same observed results) and uses that to create a "magic" of sorts.

Bottom line, those expecting a grounded tale like "Ender's Game" or "Speaker for the Dead" will be in for a shock. Since "Childre
Aug 14, 2016 Julio rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: cf
Una muy satisfactoria continuación (y final -- aún si hay otros libros de derivan del universo creado alrededor de Ender y su familia) de la serie de El Juego de Ender. Es casi la segunda parte de Ender el Xenocida. Así como El Juego de Ender tiene un alcance galáctico mientras que el también excelente La Voz de los Muertos, se convierte en una novela sorprendentemente intimista y centrada en los caracteres, Hijos de la Mente deriva directamente del tercer tomo, Ender el Xenocida, y mantiene hab ...more
Simon Mcleish
Nov 27, 2012 Simon Mcleish rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: owned
Originally published on my blog here in July 2001.

The story of Ender Wiggin, one of the most famous in modern science fiction, is brought to a close in this novel, originally intended to be part of Xenocide, from which it follows on immediately. The planet of Lusitania, home of the hive queen saved by Ender and of the third sentient species known to mankind, the pequeninos, is threatened with destruction by a fleet sent by the Starways Congress, because it is infected by the devastating descolad
Chris Youngblood
Dec 02, 2011 Chris Youngblood rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: reviewed, kindling
I originally was going to read the Orson Scott Card books simply because of the fact that they are science fiction, and because people constantly reference his series as one of the seminal collections of SF. However, I have since discovered that Mr. Card is a disgusting homophobe and misogynist, and I will not support a narrow-minded, religious zealot like this one by buying his books.

The man even had the unmitigated gall to try to re-write a version of Hamlet portraying Hamlet's father as both
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The Ender Quintet (5 books)
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  • Ender in Exile (Ender's Saga, #2)
  • Speaker for the Dead (Ender's Saga, #3)
  • Xenocide (Ender's Saga, #4)

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