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In den Händen der Feinde (Phèdre's Trilogy #2)

4.31 of 5 stars 4.31  ·  rating details  ·  24,984 ratings  ·  658 reviews
Phèdre is a young woman specially trained in the courtly arts and the talents of the bedchamber. Once before, she gave up everything held dear to save her homeland, but the gods are not yet finished with her. For while their young queen is well loved by her people, there are some who believe that other heads should wear the crown. To protect and serve, Phèdre must once aga ...more
Published April 1st 2003 by Droemer/Knaur (first published April 6th 2002)
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With the expectations Kushiel's Dart gave me, I might have been worried that Kushiel's Chosen wouldn't match up. I wasn't, but I wouldn't have needed to be anyway. I loved this book just as much as the first one. Everything I've said about how it's not for everyone still stands (see my first review), although there was less sex, I think, and perhaps more of the politics. Somehow, this book didn't feel as dense as that one, but there's still a lot of content considering it's the second book of a ...more
The second in the Kushiel's legacy series, continues on exactly where the first novel left off.

Phedre no Delaunay, now the comtesse de Montreve, comfortably living in her country home with Joscelin and her three chevaliers, and spending most of her time learning Habiru, in the hopes of discovering the key to freeing Hyacinth from the yeshuite curse. But then a parcel comes from Melisande Sharizhai - Phedre's sangoire cloak - and there is only one way to interpret it; Melisande's games of politic
Perhaps some day I will read one of these BDSM courtesan-spy epic fantasy doorstops and actually be able to talk about it afterwards, but today is not that day. Because right now, I am just so fucking grateful to this book, it has eclipsed the book itself – unintentionally hilarious, strangely unproblematic – almost entirely. This is what I read during the final two weeks of my last semester in law school. It’s what I read on the eight minute dog walking breaks, what I read when I snapped awake ...more
Another beautifully written epic fantasy.

Kushiel's Chosen picks up where Kushiel's Dart left off. But whereas Phedre is initially drawn into intrigue for the sake of her murdered mentor & foster-brother, the tragedies & travails in this second installment are a product of Phedre's own impetus. She doesn't have to become involved, but she makes that choice -- the same way she submits to a patron's whims, but on a larger political scale. Likewise, the intrigue in this book has a more perso
Allison (The Allure of Books)
I was almost scared to read this, because I was just sure it wouldn't be able to measure up to Kushiel's Dart. If I'd known how wrong I was, I wouldn't have waited two months to pick it up! I probably won't be able to wait even a week to start the third one.

So often, books in a series have different vibes, and the feelings you get while reading them are so varied that its hard to consider them connected. Not so with these, Kushiel's Chosen was very much a continuation of the first, and I can't r
Ben Babcock
Screw magic. Give me some political fantasy any day, and I'm a happy reader.

I liked Kushiel's Dart. I'm not sure if there's a definite quality improvement or if I'm going too easy on this one, but I loved Kushiel's Chosen.

The Kushiel's Legacy series takes place in a sort of Fantasy Counterpart Culture world where it's Europe, only not. From this starting point, Jacqueline Carey creates a world that, while somewhat similar to our own, nevertheless has unique societies and politics. As she crisscr
Kushiel's Chosen was my least favorite of Jacqueline Carey's trilogy featuring the anguisette Phedre no Delaunay. In this novel, the action shifts from Terre d'Ange to Carey's version of Venice (La Serenissima) so Phedre is free to display her snobbery and chauvinism to a grating degree (no one else is as beautiful as Angelines, no other place is as lovely, cultured, fashionable or interesting, no other language is as beautiful, yadda, yadda, yadda. By the time I'd read 700 pages of this, I want ...more
The sequel to Kushiel's Dart does not disappoint. The first in the series introduced Phedre no Delauney as an anguisette, the red mote in her eye indicating that she's been chosen by Kushiel to follow a path of pain and pleasure. Trained in the skills of a courtesan of the Night Court, she is also trained to be a spy for the master of her marque, Afaniel Delauney.

In this, the court intrigue continues as traitor to the crown, Melisande Shahrizai escapes from prison. Suspecting another traitor wi
Second astonishing book in the trilogy (or quintology?) of Kushiel's legacy featuring the anguisette Phedre, now the close confident of the newly minted Queen.

Phedre is a courtesan's daughter, born to one of the Houses of Night-Blooming Flowers as a result of an illicit union between a merchant's son and one of the adepts (read: highly trained, highly paid indentured courtesans). Her indenture, or marque, is sold by the head of her mother's house into the household of a nobleman who is already r
The plot of this one follows the pattern of the first book too closely for me. Phedre returns to the life of a courtesan and becomes popular and sought after. She then departs on a secret mission to expose a traitor to the throne, visits faraway lands under stressful circumstances, has adventures including several imprisonments and a sea voyage, and saves the country and her queen. Sound familiar?

I had several problems with the story. First, Phedre's return to her former occupation seems pointle
The W
W Rating : B-(C+ is more appropriate)

Well, this was not a let down sequel, per say, but was definitely a lesser novel than the first. Your sequel really should always be better due to your readers knowing the characters and what the world is about so you, the writer, can spend more time on the rest of your story.

The first 350 pages are Phedre, blindly confident in her vision/hunting. She screws over Joscelin and continues throughout. Basically, she was selfish which is pretty annoying. Carey ha
As with Kushiel's Dart, this book suffers from Omniscient Bad Guy syndrome in the form of Melisande. This book is more intense than Dart, partly because the whole book can be devoted to the main plot and the author doesn't have to spend pages introducing the main characters. A friend of mine described this book as a "Map book", in that the characters go to every place named on the map just inside the title page.

The book didn't do anything for me. The OBG overshadowed the whole thing, so that's w
Feb 27, 2008 Andrea rated it 5 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition
Recommended to Andrea by: Kari
This is hands-down one of my favorite books! The whole first trilogy is one I've read at least 3 or 4 times! Much more than a mere fantasy novel, these books explore human nature, passion, deceit, politics, and of course, love. Set in medieval pseudo-Europe (more specifically France, aka in the book Terre D'Ange), this book is rich in detail, full of different cultures and languages, and has VERY vivid characters. I've given it to numerous people with one warning, it DOES contain some explicit s ...more
This lady can write some story...and only a woman could have written it. For a moment I considered a lesser rating but I enjoyed it so much 5 Stars makes sense. So breathtaking in scope, twists and turns in plots within plots, plenty of action. My only complaint would be her battles and fights often take place out of sight or with little detail. While she is no Bernard Cornwell on the battlefield narration, she still comes up with some amazing characters. On to the third book.
Ellen Gail
[Mild non-specific spoilers for Kushiel's Dart below]

Top 5 Reasons I Loved Kushiel's Chosen

1)The first thing I see when I open the book is a map and a cast of characters sorted by location. I asked for it in my review of Kushiel's Dart and book two delivered! In these kinds of epic fantasies, I find those so helpful.

2)It consistently manages to surprise me. When I got to the end of the chapter that revealed a particularly big bombshell, (view spoiler)
What a wild ride. By now the characters of this universe have grown on me so much that I'm willing to disregard the unlikely turns the plot takes to see what becomes of them. Still - the readers certainly do get a guided tour to this version of Fantasyeurope that leaves out little. Some of the turns the plot does take (emprisonment, pirates, duels, warfare, etc.) were over the top but embedded in the story in a way that I didn't care anymore if this was a likely story or not. By now its clear th ...more
Feb 20, 2011 Darlene rated it 5 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: Adventurers. Adult themes abound.
Recommended to Darlene by: Chris
Yes, there is erotica, and not necessarily the kind I like, but it is well within the plot and story so take no offense at this. Until you have started reading this books you will not understand their depth. Rather try to look at these books as an adventure in another Europe of such. Ladies and Lords and Queens and battles and deception, intrigue abound. The map and cast of characters are in the front of the book to keep you informed.

Then there is Kushiel, herself. Never have I met a follower of
So, while I don't plan to give away any major plot twists, I'm reviewing the second in a series, so spoilers, of course, if you haven't read the first, and probably light spoilers here anyway.

I'll note that my copy of this arrived while I was 18 chapters into the first Game of Thrones book. NIGHT AND DAY. Carey's prose is so much richer, her characters so much more complex, her paragraphs so much more unified-in-a-single-thought (okay, that last is just uncharitable; sorry to Martin). Sincerely,
Kushiel’s Chosen being the second book by Carey that I’ve read, I guess
you can say that I’m slowly getting accustomed to her style and characters. For one thing, it felt relaxing going back to characters I’d grown to appreciate in the first book, namely Phèdre and Joscelin but also Ysandre and Drustan.
The question as to how Melisande had managed to escape from her cell was the main question throughout the first pages as well as to her current whereabouts.
The writing is as in the previous book ex
As good as the first one.

Although Phèdre should really have kept that girl with the crossbow closer. Would have saved a lot of trouble.

And yay for the ending! :)
Second time through and I loved it even more than the first. Something about this alternate history universe just makes it eternally somewhere I would rather live. Subtle differences in the world are all it takes to make a paradise from the mundane. And especially reading it again as the FSoG movie was released, I was reminded that these books were for certain the best depictions of BDSM and consent culture that I could point someone to.

This first trilogy will always be a gem among all that I r
This book is really more of a 4.5, but I felt the need to set it apart a bit from the first one since I didn't quite love it as all-consumingly. Which isn't to say I didn't like it!

I'm thrilled to be back in Phèdre's world, reading this ornate vocabulary and dialogue and trying to sift through the intrigue. Having a main character be awesome at their profession onscreen is a favorite motif of mine (see also: the Riddick movies), so I loved watching her settle back into the City and being the be
Whew! Though two hundred pages less than the first of the series, Carey packed just as much (if not more) intrigue, adventure, and lots of suffering. I enjoyed it even though I felt it flagged a bit in the middle. I can't wait for the next!!

These books get better and worse. Darker and more intriguing. My head felt ready to explode with the mystery and I needed to use my own "safe word" at points but WOW - 6 stars if I could. This is one of the most outstanding books I've read.
So I spent the first half or so of the book railing against Phedre for not seeing where Melisande was so OBVIOUSLY hiding, but once that was over with, the book definitely picked up speed. I spent the last 200-odd pages genuinely worried for Phedre and Ysandre: Jacqueline Carey set up an exquisite narrative tension that was well rewarded on all fronts by the end. And despite -- or perhaps because of -- my irritation with Phedre trying to take responsibility for everyone's deaths, I did enjoy the ...more
Phedre!! what can one say? she is such an unlikely heroine yet her adventures are so thrilling and out of this world, she is larger than life and so lovable. At times her escapades seem to be too far fetched especially as she always comes out of these unscathed but when one considers that she is fighting on the side of what is good and that she has all the gods in her favour one is not surprised!
i had thought that this book was no match to the first book but it did catch on and when it did, it w
Terry Calafato
Magnifico secondo volume di questa saga.

Come nel primo volume, l'inizio misurato (e forse un po' lento) è assolutamente funzionale allo svolgimento della trama. La Carey prima dipana per bene tutte trame e mette in tavola le innumerevoli carte, per poi dare il via ad un susseguirsi frenetico di eventi e colpi di scena, sino al finale: le ultime 100 pagine sono del tipo da cui il lettore non può assolutamente staccarsi prima di aver finito!

Non si può non amare la cara Phedre, così come non ci si
I read the first quarter of this book reconnecting myself with the huge cast of characters and wracking my brain regarding their actions in the previous book which I read over two years ago.

I read the second quarter of this book getting frustrated with the same huge cast of characters and figuring out their relationships, their loyalties, the cause and effect of their actions and wondering what, if any, purpose there is to it all.

I read the third quarter of this book in a haze, skimming pages an
Not quite as good as its predecessor, but a worthy instalment, nonetheless. At some moments my heart just leapt with joy. I just HAVE TO mention Joscelin's development. Whether it is for better, for worse or somewhere in the middle is a matter of interpretation, but it's certainly notable. And I admit that I grew rather fond of Ysandre in this part. Too bad it is a first person book. I would have loved to meet their points of view at some point. But I definitely like Phedre, so it's all good, an ...more
I love Jacqueline Carey, as a person. I think she is remarkable and has created something really special with the Terre D'Ange universe. I was a little unsure about Kushiel's Dart because like most epic fantasies, it had a slow start...and kind of a slow middle, too, despite all the interesting sex scenes.

Kushiel's Chosen has fewer sex scenes (boo!) but they were better executed, in my opinion. Phedre and Joscelin are also my favorite book couple, without a doubt. There are a great deal of acti
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Jacqueline Carey (born 1964 in Highland Park, Illinois) is an author and novelist, primarily of fantasy fiction.

She attended Lake Forest College, receiving B.A.'s in psychology and English literature. During college, she spent 6 months working in a bookstore as part of a wo
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Other Books in the Series

Phèdre's Trilogy (3 books)
  • Kushiel's Dart (Phèdre's Trilogy, #1)
  • Kushiel's Avatar (Phèdre's Trilogy #3)
Kushiel's Dart (Phèdre's Trilogy, #1) Kushiel's Avatar (Phèdre's Trilogy #3) Kushiel's Scion (Imriel's Trilogy, #1) Kushiel's Justice (Imriel's Trilogy, #2) Kushiel's Mercy (Imriel's Trilogy, #3)

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