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When America First Met China: An Exotic History of Tea, Drugs, and Money in the Age of Sail

3.76 of 5 stars 3.76  ·  rating details  ·  231 ratings  ·  59 reviews
Brilliantly illuminating one of the least-understood areas of American history, best-selling author Eric Jay Dolin now traces our fraught relationship with China back to its roots: the unforgiving nineteenth-century seas that separated a brash, rising naval power from a battered ancient empire. It is a prescient fable for our time, one that surprisingly continues to shed l ...more
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Published September 10th 2012 by Liverght (division of W. W. Norton)
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Dolin has done an admirable job of shedding light on a fascinating aspect of American history about which we do not often hear. We have in this book an engaging cultural and social history, as well as an economic one. Yes, Dolin focuses on the exchange of goods in trade between the China and the West, beginning in the late 18th century and following the thread through to the start of the 20th century, but the stories here are so much broader than that. Dolin works from the perspective gained fro ...more
Tony Taylor
Very, very interesting overview of America's early relations with China from the American Revolutionary period through most of the19th century. This book offers a very informative history lesson that offers an insight as to how China reponded to the rush in trade between, not only America, but also much of Europe.The feudal methods employed by the Chinses including the way they "looked down" on Westerners and peoples from other Asian nations. America got a late start in trading with the Chinese, ...more
Mary Alice
Interesting as far as it goes, but it's padded with off- topic information (like stories about the short history of clipper ships that didn't figure in the Chinese-American trade). We can see from this book how Americans saw China but not how the Chinese viewed America. The most interesting parts of the book are about the Opium Wars and the Chinese Coolie trade, where Americans were not among the protagonists.
The author is enthusiastic about his subject, but I did not find it infectious. He goes in several different directions, giving a brief history of China's maritime trade, explaining why trade was restricted to Canton, and finally getting into the British and American trade. He tackles each trade subject thoroughly and sequentially, moving from one major trade item to the next, starting with seal and otter pelts, along with sandalwood (all nearly depleted within a generation), tea, sea cucumber, ...more
Scott Kardel
Eric Jay Dolin's book When America First Met China is an important look back at U.S. China relations. The book, complete with detailed end notes, spans the years from the American Revolution to just after the U.S. Civil War and recounts the story of U.S. trade relations with the Middle Kingdom.

There can be no question that relations with China will take special focus in the years to come and will be influenced by our past dealings.

While America was not the central player in dealing with China
Someone please tell me Dolin did NOT just defend foot binding after giving a graphic and nauseating description of the process.

The book is highly readable and written in a very non scholarly fashion even though it is footnoted and sources listed in the back. Dolin's style is chatty and laconic with just a touch of humor. The title is a little misleading since the POV switches to the British when he approaches the Opium War of 1844. Dolin also talks about the human trafficking that went on betwee
Even though I told myself I was taking a break from non-fiction, I couldn't resist this one. When America First Met China is probably one of the most fascinating analyses and discussions about the global economy involving China in the late 18th century, and throughout most of the 19th century. I had no idea what a huge part the China trade played in the development of the US both before and after independence.

The strongest part of this book is that Dolin writes in a non-academic manner, but has
This book was readable, and it covers a time and place that I knew little about, so I learned a lot of cool stuff. I feel like this book is good background knowledge for books written or set in Britain or America in the 19th century. I never understood quite what the Opium Wars were or what the British East India Company was before I read this book.

Here are some random facts I learned that I'm writing down so I don't forget them once I return the book to the library:
Originally China required for
Jan 21, 2013 Ms.pegasus rated it 4 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: historians and readers with a serious interest in the period.
Shelves: china, history, nonfiction
The China trade conjures exotic images: Graceful clippers like the Sea Witch and the Flying Cloud; the import of silk, fine porcelain, furniture and artwork; the port of Canton bustling with foreign ships and traders intermingled with Chinese junks and sampans, and Canton's “golden ghetto.” Author Eric Jay Dolin explores the economic underpinnings of that era through an extensive reading of primary sources. His story focuses on America's involvement, which began immediately after the conclusion ...more
The author is clear that part of his intent in writing this book is to help readers to understand the history of US-China relations and trade relations in particular to inform our understanding of current issues in US-Sino relations. I definitely walked away with a better grasp of that history and how it might inform contemporary Chinese perceptions. While focused on telling the tale of the development of trade relations between the two countries, he manages to tell a tale of greed and its overw ...more
Jan 04, 2014 Art rated it 4 of 5 stars
Shelves: history
I heard a lot about this time period on The China History Podcast (well worth listening to if you are interested in the subject)I thought this book was very interesting and covered the China U.S. trade very well. I have to admit that I really had not thought of it in 18 and 19th century terms but it was eye opening when I did. It's gotten me the urge to maybe read a little more on the subject, and that's the mark of a good book.
Cathy Doyle
A good description of the initial phases America's trade with China. After the Revolutionary War China was one country that was open to American traders, with enormous profits to be made on successful voyages. Even in these days, however, the world ran an account deficit with China, which continues to this day. The book ends with the Opium Wars of the mid 19th century, which are still much in the minds of the Chinese today when they negotiate with the West. A good summary of the subject.
I got this book as a Goodreads giveaway. I don't usually read this type of historical book, but, being a recent resident of Salem, I thought it would give me some insight into the cities' history. At one time, Salem was the wealthiest city in America, due to the China trade. I did not learn much about Salem, but did learn a great deal about China and its history. I really enjoyed the book. The maps and illustrations helped.
Picking up this book I was excited at the thought of finding out about a lesser known set of characters and happenings beyond the traditional story of the Opium War as one of British greed. However, I was disappointed to find that a large percentage of the book was a recounting of the traditional story of the Opium War and British trade with China. Americans involved in the China trade such as Robert Morris, the Astors, Asa Whitney, Peter Parker, etc. are discussed but only as secondary characte ...more
Fascinating and well-written account of trade relations between China and the United States from post-Revolutionary War through the 1800s. Loving history and economics as I do, this didn't disappoint.
I have read Eric Jay Dolin’s books, “Leviathan: The History of Whaling in America” and “Fur, Fortune, and Empire: The Epic History of the Fur Trade in America,” which are really interesting.

This book also has a very good point to make.

After American Revolution, Americans first sent a merchant ship to China. At that time, we could find every feature of the relationship between America and China, which has been enduring until now.

“Americans had long dreamed of the day when the hundreds of million
Joel Neff
When America First Met China is a fascinating look at the golden age of sail as it grew from the remnants of the 18th century and into the 19th and how the rise of trade with China directly affected and influenced both America and Britain in their quests to build a country and maintain an empire. The book explores the initial trading of fur seal pelts and silk and how through expeditions and politics, diplomacy and warfare, the trade eventually turned to opium with all its consequences, both ant ...more
I received this book as a part of the Goodreads giveaway program. It was an Advanced Reader Copy and was an uncorrected proof prior to publication. This was the first book by this author that I have read.

The book was enjoyable because I like both history and anything related to the sea. The author did a good job of detailing the intracacies of trade between China and America with a good deal of British influence thrown in as well. I was particularly interested to see the similarities between the
I feel a bit like this volume was driven more by a publisher than by an author. I don't mean to imply that Eric Jay Dolin doesn't know his stuff, but more that there was an editor somewhere going "Hey, there's a market of people trying to understand Chinese history and scared about Chinese-American trade. This guy can write a book about that and it'll sell!"

There's a lot of good information here. The break-down of the Canton-system with all it's baroque twists and turns is really interesting. Th
This was an easy, interesting book about trade between the US (really, the western world, including Britain) and China between the late 1700s and early 1900s.

You meet interesting characters from every side: American trade merchants, American captains, British captains, Chinese traders and Chinese bureaucrats. The stories about life in Canton - where all trade between China and the West took place was good, though not AS detailed as I've read in similar books.

The impact of Chinese goods on Americ
I really enjoyed Dolin's look at a little-known piece of history: how revolutionary America began trading with China. Dolin (logically) writes from a western perspective, often comparing how Britain vs the fledgling US differed in their approach and relationship with China. This was well-written and fun to read, with lots of little tidbits about the history of tea consumption, opium's changing role, and how sailing itself changed in the mid-19th century.

The tale ends in the mid-19th century, sh
Benjamin Cooper
Good background on America's-China relationship. Helps showcase the cultural and legal differences between China and the West, and the ethnocentrism apparent with both the British and the Chinese. And then how this filtered down to all Western parties - America in particular.

Illustrates how some cases and issues just had no "right" answer, and how this pent up tension would occasionally erupt into violence and brutality.
A very interesting and pertinent work on the origins of America's relationship with China. This book lays out how sea otters, tea, and opium are all related and how trade characterizes American-Chinese interaction in the past as well as the present. A great read for anyone looking to have a better understanding of China and its history with the West.
Dolin has illuminated a subject on which I was pretty much in the dark—America’s early commerce with China. The biggest revelation for me was the direction of the opium trade. Prior to reading this work I thought that China exported opium, but now I know this was not the case. The Opium War was a series of battles fought by England against China in 1840 in which the British Navy proved far superior to the Chinese. The purpose of these battles was to stop the Chinese from enforcing their own laws ...more
Alex Krembs
Eric Dolin is a good story teller, who captivates his audience with his popular writing style.

I most enjoyed when he uses specifics to get to the heart of the story. For example he details America's first ship employed in the China Trade after US independence is formally acheived, some of the trade and conflict in the Canton system, or mutinies in the coolie trade.

I was fascinated by his detail in the development of shipping building in the form of earliest clippers built for the China trade,
Very informative and a definite recommendation for anyone who has any interest in learning about the formative years of trade between China and America. Really sheds light on how/why our trade has evolved into what it is today between China and America.

I must say I wasn't able to really get into the first few chapters. There was so much information being bounced around in different orders that it was a bit overwhelming. I don't mean to imply it should be elementary history level, but I feel it c
I read this to get a better understanding of some Amitov Ghosh books, namely River of Smoke, although the facts gave a little insight to Sea of Poppies as well. In the last few pages, Dolin kind of scolds people for not knowing more about the Opium Wars. Which I guess is why he spent so much time on them without providing much contextualization from the American perspective (mostly from the British perspective). But mentions in the end that it is important to understand the Opium Wars because it ...more
David R.
This one's a highly readable, richly researched, and deeply sensitive narrative of a period of history of which most are largely ignorant. Dolin looks most closely at trade with China roughly from the 1780s to the 1870s. Some of this is soaring stuff: with clipper ships and Sinomania. But there's also the dark side: the Opium War(s), the coolie trade, and plenty of cultural arrogance to go around. It's saddening and infuriating to read accounts of abuse of the lowest class Chinese, peoples explo ...more
Interesting to consider how politically impotent the Chinese emperors were at cracking down on the opium trade in the south, despite all good intentions. There was, at the same time, an obsession with herbs, especially ginseng, that were known to have aphrodisiac effects. How could a country with so much sexual prowess in one domain, completely lose it in another?

Also, the biology of the silkworm production is pretty fascinating - how they fed off of a certain type of tree native to northern chi
Mr. Dolin has written an informative history of the China Trade from it's inception right after the Revolutionary War through the turn of the nineteenth century. When writing about the more interesting periods, the book flows smoothly while at other times it seems draggy and repetitive. I believe that this is a book that should be read because of it's excellent coverage of America"s involvement in the opium trade, the Opium War(s) an the coolie trade. Most Americans know little about these thing ...more
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