The Darkness That Comes Before (The Prince of Nothing #1)
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I couldn't read this book it was like the author grabbed a thesaurus and picked out vocabulary that would have even made Jerome Shostak have to look it up!
It made me hate the author...it felt arrogant, high handed and pissed me off.
So I've seen a lot of Bakker-talk online and you'd think to read it that the man was either the devil incarnate or a seven-fold genius come to show the true way. A phrase I'm used to hearing is 'marmite book', another is 'you'll either love it or hate it - there's no in between'. All as much bollocks here of course as when applied to my own work. A simple click of the ratings button shows a vast number of in betweens. In fact most people are in bet...more
I've read a fair amount of fantasy fiction, and what I find most compelling in a book is strong character development and witty banter. This book took everything I had to get through the first 4-5 chapters...but it was well worth the tenacity.
Why was it such a slow start for me? Bakker has obviously put an enormous amount of effort i...more
The book started off great, which lead me to believe that it was truly going to live up to the reviews I've read. Well, as soon as the introduction came to a close, this thing just began to droll on and on at such a tediously slow pace. This book just bored the hell out of me. It seemed to f...more
If this is mer...more
This is the first time I've encountered Philosophy grad student automanipulation, and it's enthralling, especially in the fantasy genre, where various philisophical...more
The combination of philosophy and fantasy allows a breakthrough into a new dimension of both that allows a much deeper immersion into the book than with any traditional fantasy novel.
Although Achamian is the protagonist of the novel, one cannot help but be drawn to many of the other characters. Esmenet, for example, shows tremendous wisdom but is helpless because of her situations, fabricate...more
The first book of "The Prince of Nothing" trilogy, "The Darkness that Comes Before" is a fantasy take on the Crusades, though set in a fantasy world all its own. It is a bit tough to follow sometimes, mainly because of all the foreign names of people, places, and religions/schools of magic. In fact, if you have the opportunity, it would help to read the first page and a quarter of "What Has Gone Before" from "The Warrior Prophet,"...more
I cannot forgive the female portrayal in this book though. It's not just that the only major female characters are whores (with a poorly-argued "exception" for the emperor's mother, who if she weren't noble-born, would be a shrewish, incestuous whore instead). Ot...more
The plot is mangled with endless references to other places and cultures that are nev...more
Loosely based on the Crusades (very loosely), The Darkness That Comes Before takes place in the world of Earwä, in the region known as the Three Seas, where emperors and sorcerers politick and scheme against one another, deciding the fate of nations. A charismatic pope-type figure named Maithanet is uniting the various factions to embark o...more
Bakker shows us a "dark lord" that gives you chills in a way Sauron never did.
That said, the series is also written at a very elevated level. Its dense. And its characters are interesting, but often not very likable.
I consider it an amazing series, and one of the best things being written today.
Name of the Wind, on the other hand, is the exact opposite of the Prince of Nothing in every p...more
Reading this book was like reading with a stone around my neck. It was heavy. Depressing. I just wanted to be done with it.
The world is kind of interesting... but so far devoid of anything "good" in the classical (or even a more modern) sense. Everyone is bad people, more or less. Although one is amoral and another supposed to be somewhat sympathetic. But UGH. So much filth.
And all the women are whores. Seriously. Ugh.
I'm not sure if I'll continue with this series or not. If i...more
This is R.S. Bakker's first volume of his first trilogy.
I am reading it in English, which is not too difficult if you're used to reading Tolkien. The influence of the English forefather may be found in that Bakker's imagination stems from D&D campaigns, where the gamemaster he used to be coined his own homemade world to better whatever you could find on the shelves of game shops - but for Dragonlance ma...more
Strikingly original in its conception, ambitious in scope, with characters engrossingly and vividly drawn, the first book in R. Scott Bakker's Prince of Nothing series creates a remarkable world from whole cloth—it's language and classes of people, its cities, religions, mysteries, taboos, and rituals—the kind of all-embracing universe that has thrilled readers of Stephen R Donaldson and George R.R. Martin.It's a world scarred by an acopalyptic past, evoking a time both two
When I hear about the 'new wave' of fantasy writers, I never think R Scott Bakker gets the credit he should, always people talk about GRRM, Brandon Sanderson, Steven Errikson, but really what Bakker started here in many...more
I am abandoning this series. The writing is all tell and little show. I appreciate that Bakker has developed, or perhaps over-developed, a huge backstory to all of this, but instead of allowing it to seep up into the triology, he bombards you with it from page one. Just flip through this book and look at how many proper nouns there are on each page. It is absurd. None of the inf...more
This is fantasy at an epic scale, but thoroughly rooted in the characters he presents. And this is where Bakker shines where many other fantasy authors of such Big Event stories fail. His characters don't feel like tent-pegs holding up the fabric of a broader narrative; they're very much alive. Moreover...more
I call it my bad people doing bad things to worse people.
The series follows two main characters; one the heir to long-lost (and I do mean long - millennial) empire, trained by monks into the "perfect" being - cap...more
The pace and structure are a little off, but it's the guy's first book, so I can forgive.
It's obvious what worldview the author is operating from. It's the typical New Atheist "religion is the cause of problems" view, as the whole catalyst for everything is a massive holy war, and one of the heroes, Anisurimbor Khellus(although really and anti-hero) is a being of pure logic and objectivity. But Khell...more
Not saying that novel plot doesn’t stand for itself, but...more
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|Is it just Me or wouldn't this make an awesome Movie?||5||40||Jan 21, 2012 05:48pm|