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Victoria
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Knut Hamsun
When it first appeared in 1898, this fourth novel by celebrated Norwegian writer Knut Hamsun captured instant acclaim for its poetic, psychologically intense portrayal of love's predicament in a class-bound society. Set in a coastal village of late nineteenth- century Norway, "Victoria" follows two doomed lovers through their thwarted lifelong romance. Johannes, the son of...more
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Sep 28, 2012
s.penkevich
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4 of 5 stars
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‘Love became the world’s beginning and the world’s ruler; but all its ways are full of flowers and blood, flowers and blood.’
The passions and desires of young love, and the frustration of love torn apart by society, is a source of considerable energy that has been harnessed by writers through all of history. Nobel laureate Knut Hamsun’s 1898 novella, Victoria, draws on this energy to fuel his unextinguishable prose and return to the theme of doomed love, a theme characteristic of his impressive...more
The passions and desires of young love, and the frustration of love torn apart by society, is a source of considerable energy that has been harnessed by writers through all of history. Nobel laureate Knut Hamsun’s 1898 novella, Victoria, draws on this energy to fuel his unextinguishable prose and return to the theme of doomed love, a theme characteristic of his impressive...more
The odds were that I wouldn't like this book. It had many of the features I found fault with in the contemporary bestseller "One Day" by David Nicholls: a frustrating main character who falls deeply and irrevocably in love with someone clearly unsuitable who doesn't initially return his regard; many occasions when the pair might have come together but were prevented by misunderstandings and other frustrating circumstances; in short, too much melodrama right up to the very end. So why did I like...more
Il sottotitolo recita “Storia di un amore”, ma forse sarebbe stato più appropriato “Stati d’animo nel corso di un amore”. Un amore infelice, ça va sans dire. Victoria, appartenente alle classi alte, e Johannes, figlio di un mugnaio, si conosco sin da piccoli. Le barriere sociali esistono e si sentono, ma loro sono ancora in quell’età in cui è possibile aggirarle, se non proprio ignorarle. Complice la natura e i luoghi, lontani dalla città, si sviluppa così una simpatia che non tarderà a sfociare...more
I read this novel in the Eighties. Victoria is one of the most beautiful short novels in Literature.
Though titled Victoria, the protagonist is Johannes, the miller's son. He is a boy who wants to work in a match factory because, “he could get sulphur on his hands so that nobody would dare to shake hands with him”. Later, as a man, he spends his nights writing epic poetry, capping a productive session with loud singing that wakes his neighbours. Johannes is proud to know the stones and the stream...more
Though titled Victoria, the protagonist is Johannes, the miller's son. He is a boy who wants to work in a match factory because, “he could get sulphur on his hands so that nobody would dare to shake hands with him”. Later, as a man, he spends his nights writing epic poetry, capping a productive session with loud singing that wakes his neighbours. Johannes is proud to know the stones and the stream...more
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I have quoted the author at length (in the first comment below), partly to inform my own reading when I get the chance.
Communication
However, what I really hope is that it will help me grapple with the comments of some reviewers to the effect that his characters could have avoided most of their problems, if they had just communicated with each other better.
Poor communication is something we stumble into when we are egotistical and energetic and bullet-proof in our youth.
Hurt
We don't n...more
I have quoted the author at length (in the first comment below), partly to inform my own reading when I get the chance.
Communication
However, what I really hope is that it will help me grapple with the comments of some reviewers to the effect that his characters could have avoided most of their problems, if they had just communicated with each other better.
Poor communication is something we stumble into when we are egotistical and energetic and bullet-proof in our youth.
Hurt
We don't n...more
O mestre das letras norueguês, Knut Hamsun, apesar de Nobel da Literatura em 1920, é visto por certos sectores como um dos “escritores malditos”, devido ao seu apoio à Alemanha durante a Segunda Guerra Mundial. No entanto, o seu talento excepcional ultrapassa quaisquer barreiras e fá-lo sobreviver. Felizmente, voltou ao panorama editorial nacional pela mão da Cavalo de Ferro que, depois de “Fome” e “Pan”, põe agora ao dispor do público português mais uma obra-prima.
“Victoria”, publicado original...more
“Victoria”, publicado original...more
Johannes is the miller's son, pining for Victoria, daughter of the local estate owner. The book starts when he is 14 and she is 10. A lonely child, Johannes wants to play with the rich children, but is normally only called upon to wait on them and row them around when they have guests from the city visiting. He spends most of his time alone, using his fertile imagination to invent solitary games and adventures.
When he is 18, and returns home from school in the city, he hopes he has finally been...more
When he is 18, and returns home from school in the city, he hopes he has finally been...more
Who am I to say that a Nobel prize winning author is just phoning it in? Especially since I’ve yet to find real enjoyment in Hamsun’s writing? If I had just picked this book up and read it I wouldn’t have enjoyed it too much, it’s a tad bit too melodramatic with a bit of the coldness of say Strindberg and the inexplicable manly rage of DH Lawrence’s male characters (but not their latent gayness, which maybe I’ll share my theory on this at some other time in a DH Lawrence review). Can I say that...more
A simple, torturous little book. A friend of mine summed it up best so I will plagiarize completely: Victoria is about two people who love each other so profoundly that all they can do is hurt one another.
In high school, much teenage drama comes from little spurns and cold shoulders—she didn't talk to me at the party, he wasn't listening when we talked on the phone, he was late to dinner, etc. Instead of starting as cafeteria gossip and dying when we grow older, these sorts of innocent rejection...more
In high school, much teenage drama comes from little spurns and cold shoulders—she didn't talk to me at the party, he wasn't listening when we talked on the phone, he was late to dinner, etc. Instead of starting as cafeteria gossip and dying when we grow older, these sorts of innocent rejection...more
you would think i would have sopped this thing up with a hunk of bread: doomed lovers, the impossibility of communication, the way we hurt the ones we love? that should have karen's stamp of approval all over it.
but it's like hamsun took a great idea for literary exploration and then constructed this wooden fence all around the emotional appeal and said "you are not coming in!" and i'm like, "dude, come on - just let me care about the characters a little bit". and hamsun's all "no way, jose". s...more
but it's like hamsun took a great idea for literary exploration and then constructed this wooden fence all around the emotional appeal and said "you are not coming in!" and i'm like, "dude, come on - just let me care about the characters a little bit". and hamsun's all "no way, jose". s...more
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“Виктория” за сметка на горното е сантиментална творба, която след “Глад” направо дразни. Бедно момче е влюбено в богато момиче, но не смее и да мечтае за нея. Успява да замине за големия град и след много труд става известен писател и се завръща у дома. Между него и момичето любовта избухва с нова сила, но обстоятелства от всякакъв характер са против тях до последно. Прочетена отделно, повестта навярно си има достойнства,...more
“Виктория” за сметка на горното е сантиментална творба, която след “Глад” направо дразни. Бедно момче е влюбено в богато момиче, но не смее и да мечтае за нея. Успява да замине за големия град и след много труд става известен писател и се завръща у дома. Между него и момичето любовта избухва с нова сила, но обстоятелства от всякакъв характер са против тях до последно. Прочетена отделно, повестта навярно си има достойнства,...more
Onlangs heb ik de eerste uitgave van uitgeverij Bright Lights gelezen, het klassieke werkje Victoria van Knut Hamsun. Dit boek gaat over de onmogelijke liefde tussen twee mensen uit verschillende klassen. Het verhaal begint wanneer beide mensen nog kinderen zijn, Johannes is het zoontje van een molenaar, Victoria de dochter van een kasteelheer. Op deze jonge leeftijd spelen zij met elkaar, het klasse verschil is er wel, maar wordt nog niet door deze twee als zodanig gezien. De liefde blijft best...more
Aug 27, 2012
Marija
rated it
3 of 5 stars
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Hamsun penned an interesting take on the tragic muse tale. However it’s not the story itself that really captures the reader, but how Hamsun digresses from it, through Johannes’ inner musings and the poems and stories that Johannes is writing throughout. It is these sections that transform the basic tale, making it indeed something truly special. There are so many layers of meaning that the reader can extrapolate from these sections...psychological vs. social commentaries on one’s sense of place...more
Saya baru bisa memahami novel ini setelah lepas dari halaman 85. Well, ini sungguh-sungguh proses membaca yang melelahkan. Melewatkan 85 halaman di awal dengan telaten (kalau nggak boleh dibilang terkantuk-kantuk), bosen, males dan jengah. Tentu saja sambil berpikir, "Pengarang ini maunya apa ya???" Atau jangan-jangan terjemahannya nih yang ga' beres???
Memang pada akhirnya, ketika saya mendapatkan ide ceritanya. "Dah ngenak banget" gitu lah istilahnya, saya menyadari memang ada fungsi penerjemah...more
Memang pada akhirnya, ketika saya mendapatkan ide ceritanya. "Dah ngenak banget" gitu lah istilahnya, saya menyadari memang ada fungsi penerjemah...more
A short simple and profound love story which captures the intensity, passion and hopelessness of love; especially young love. The two protagonists Johannes and Victoria fall in love in early teenage and the story develops over a period of years. They manage to hurt each other, be shy, clumsy and avoid sharing their feelings. The language of this book is poetic and lyrical. Reading this as an adult; it was moving, but I wonder how I would have felt about it as a teenager; it may have had a more p...more
Suppose you met someone when you were young, and something happened that convinced you beyond reasonable doubt that they loved you, and you loved them. And then, suppose that there were all sorts of practical problems, and that, on the rare occasions when you did meet them, you said the wrong thing, or they said the wrong thing, and people were hurt, or lost their tempers, and you started to wonder if you'd just hallucinated it all. And that this continued for your whole life.
Well, if you've eve...more
Crushing, crushing inevitability. Macabre and surgical dissection of deathless love savaged by fragile, chimeric institutions which still haunt us today, although they are metamorphosised ghosts of class and respectability. An exorcism of Knut Hamsun's own idiosyncratic insecurities (he named his own daughter after the novel; why not just slap a hag's curse on the poor thing?), a sinew snapping, unappreciated novella of lives devoted to the brutality of human emotion. I can understand, at first...more
Johannes og Victoria har vært forelsket siden de var små. De kretser rundt hverandre som to tvillingsoler som holdes sammen av den andres gravitasjon.
Vakkert og romantisk kunne det ha vært; men Hamsun vil det annerledes.
På samme måte som Ibsen bruker sine skuspill for å kritisere og belyse samfunnets underfundigheter virker det som Hamsun bruker Johannes og Victoria for å eksemplifisere at folk kan være slemme med hverandre på tross av, eller kanskje på grunn av, at de er glad i hverandre.
Sam...more
Vakkert og romantisk kunne det ha vært; men Hamsun vil det annerledes.
På samme måte som Ibsen bruker sine skuspill for å kritisere og belyse samfunnets underfundigheter virker det som Hamsun bruker Johannes og Victoria for å eksemplifisere at folk kan være slemme med hverandre på tross av, eller kanskje på grunn av, at de er glad i hverandre.
Sam...more
Hamsun did well with this light-heavy story. He must've had similar influences to F. Scott Fitzgerald for crafting poetic prose, to Hermann Hesse for exploring mystical self-discovery, and William Shakespeare would be proud of his semi-detached delivery of tragic ends that don't leave the reader feeling jaded.
I am very fascinated by Knut Hamsun and the way he writes. The story itself might be a little tragically and over-dramatic, but it's the language and formulations that's really good. He lived over a hundred years ago and still he can make senteneces that send goose bumps down your back! It's wonderful, just wonderful. The nature is beautiful, the flowers are gorgeous and the love is described to be powerful and tillating.
But I have to say...I had a really tough time reading it, because it's so....more
But I have to say...I had a really tough time reading it, because it's so....more
I had to read this book for class, and remember no one but me really enjoyed it.
It's a tragic love story, but about so much more. It's also somehow a classic story about love where the lovers never end up together, and they understand that, but still they can't seem to keep away from each other. They destroy everything they could have had together just to make each other misserable.
The book is also set in a time where the class distinction was a reality, but still its pretty timeless.
It's defini...more
It's a tragic love story, but about so much more. It's also somehow a classic story about love where the lovers never end up together, and they understand that, but still they can't seem to keep away from each other. They destroy everything they could have had together just to make each other misserable.
The book is also set in a time where the class distinction was a reality, but still its pretty timeless.
It's defini...more
Had a good beginning. Got really sappy. What works for Hamsun is his odd characters. There are odd characters here but what is missing about halfway through is a lack of his comedy. His greatest ability is his bravery. He does this by adding things that really have no bearing as far as the story goes. He is best when the reader goes, "What in the hell?" and has to laugh - either you laugh or you hate Hamsun. He does the relationship so called "power struggle" well, too (PAN is best example). Thi...more
There are some books that have a lasting impact on one’s life, books that leave an indelible mark on one’s deepest emotions. For me there are a number, but Victoria by Knut Hamsun occupies a special place as the most captivating and heart-breaking love story ever written. I read it in my mid-teens, in the full flood of my most romantic period.
It’s a short novel; I finished it in less than two hours in a single sitting, overwhelmed by the poetic intensity of the prose, overwhelmed by the story o...more
It’s a short novel; I finished it in less than two hours in a single sitting, overwhelmed by the poetic intensity of the prose, overwhelmed by the story o...more
Victoria by Knut Hamsun is a bittersweet tale of two youths, in a trance of passion, but rudely awakened by fate's cruel ways. The two lovers - Johannes and Victoria - fall deeply in love and are blissfully happy, but their enchantment ends in mutual self-destruction and unfulfilled love.
Hamsun sketches a powerful and disturbing portrait of Johannes's inner conflicts. This melancholy side of Johannes is reminiscent of The Scream painted by his fellow countryman Edvard Munch. Johannes is governed...more
Hamsun sketches a powerful and disturbing portrait of Johannes's inner conflicts. This melancholy side of Johannes is reminiscent of The Scream painted by his fellow countryman Edvard Munch. Johannes is governed...more
This is the most sentimental and straightforward of all the Hamsun novel I've read, but it was still very enjoyable, especially the second half of the book. The plot is typical of Hamsun, featuring obsessive love, self-destructive behavior, and characters who try to deny the things that they want most and do the opposite of what they should do. However, the level of Hamsun's distinctive craziness (e.g., midgets, neuroses, nervous breakdowns, harelips, murder) is much more subdued in this novel.
A bit on the melodramatic side, Hamsun's Victoria is nonetheless a memorable little story. I disagree with the reviewer who calls the book misogynistic; it's simply told from the male protagonist's point of view.
I read this book in my early 20s, and it had a powerful effect on me. Having just read it again 20 years later, I found myself a bit more critical. Having said that, I still enjoyed the story very much,
I read this book in my early 20s, and it had a powerful effect on me. Having just read it again 20 years later, I found myself a bit more critical. Having said that, I still enjoyed the story very much,
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Awarded the Nobel Prize in Literature in 1920 "for his monumental work, Growth of the Soil." He insisted that the intricacies of the human mind ought to be the main object of modern literature, to describe the "whisper of the blood, and the pleading of the bone marrow". Hamsun pursued his literary program, debuting in 1890 with the psychological novel Hunger.
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“Slik var kjærligheten.
Den kunde ruinere sin mand, gjenreise ham og brændemeærke ham igjen; den kunde elske mig idag, dig imorgen og ham imorgen nat, så ubestandig var den. Men den kunde også holde fast som et ubrytelig segl og blusse like uutslukelig til dødens stund, for så evig var den.”
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Den kunde ruinere sin mand, gjenreise ham og brændemeærke ham igjen; den kunde elske mig idag, dig imorgen og ham imorgen nat, så ubestandig var den. Men den kunde også holde fast som et ubrytelig segl og blusse like uutslukelig til dødens stund, for så evig var den.”
“Og kjærligheten blev verdens ophav og verdens hersker, men alle dens veier er fulle av blomster og blod, blomster og blod.”
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