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Patriotas (The Coming Collapse)

3.58 of 5 stars 3.58  ·  rating details  ·  2,787 ratings  ·  346 reviews
Estados Unidos se enfrenta a una crisis socioeconómica total. La Bolsa se desploma, la hiperinflación paraliza el comercio y la crisis supera cualquier pronóstico. En medio de las hordas de refugiados y vándalos que deambulan por los núcleos urbanos, un reducido grupo de amigos de la región central de Estados Unidos tratará de llegar a un rancho en el norte de Idaho, donde ...more
Paperback, Expanded and Updated 33 Chapter Edition, 439 pages
Published May 10th 2012 by La Factoría de Ideas (first published November 1998)
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Patrick
For any man who's ever wanted to be a Hero With a Gun but was too gutless to join the military or police force, and any woman who wants to hide out in the backwoods of Idaho with said asshole and bear his children, this book is a must read. Invaluable advice is offered: for example, it's okay to waste ammo pumping multiple rounds into the corpses of Gay Communist Cannibals, because, as the hero points out, "They can't be dead enough." Rawles also instructs you on how to ambush and destroy an Abr ...more
Gabriel C.
Wow. I learned a lot from this book.

I learned how to mount a gun on my airplane.
I learned how to treat bullet wounds.
I learned that you can tell whether someone is a good guy or a bad guy by the following means:
-if they have high quality guns that they take care of, they are probably a good guy; if they have low quality guns in disrepair, they are probably a bad guy.
-Everyone carries around a book or other text because that is the only possible source of morality. If it is a bible, they are a go
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Kris Irvin
Thank God this is over with. This is not a story. This is 300 pages about guns, stuff you need should the economy ever collapse, and about 20 characters that are all the same person. It's very random, it's very boring, and it's very subjective to this one guy's ideas of what would happen should the economy ever die for realz.

Yeah. I could say it's worth reading just because he does give a list of stuff it would be nice to have in such a situation, but really, don't waste your time. Just visit a
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Mike (the Paladin)
In a way I'd like to do 2 things here. First I'd like to be able to rate this higher. I believe that the idea of a possible collapse of some kind isn't all that far fetched. I'd seen the power go down in areas of Nashville for as much as 2 weeks and it got bad. Any kind of complete collapse would lead to massive death and even horror. This could have been and should have been an interesting book. TOO MANY BOOKS ON THIS TOPIC CROSS OVER INTO FRINGE BELIEFS. This one doesn't do that.

It's just not
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Michael
Fourteen years ago, when I first left the military, I did a lot of reading and research on the militia movement in the United States. This was only a few years after the Oklahoma City bombings, and I had met a few militia types while in the service. One of the books I heard referenced over and over again was called The Turner Diaries, so--of course--I read it. The Turner Diaries is one the most vile books ever written: it is a racist screed that is so horrific that I couldn't help but laugh out ...more
Samantha Blair
So I've decided to stop reading this one although I'm not quite finished. I can't take it any more. As a lot of other people have said, the format for this book is really odd.

If you like lists you might really like this book. There are lists of every blood type and what types of blood those types can receive, lists of every kind of gun with the types of rounds that those guns shoot and what you might like to shoot with those guns, lists of food items, tools, and processes. Even step by step ord
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David
Jul 06, 2014 David rated it 3 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: preppers in Idaho compounds, Austrian economists with gun collections
As a regular reader of James Wesley Rawles's Survival Blog, I was interested to hear what a novel written by him would sound like. Knowing he's a conservative Christian libertarian, I expected a big dose of hatin' on Obama and probably a bunch of atheist liberals getting what's coming to them, but in fairness, the author mostly keeps the right wing vitriol in check until the latter part of the book. But when it does emerge, boy does it ever.

The first thing to know is that Rawles clearly hopes th
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Liz
Anyone who knows me knows I like post-apocalyptic fiction. And I like almost any of it. However, I did not like Patriots: Surviving the Coming Collapse.

This book seems to be less of a novel than a cross between James Wesley Rawles’ personal fantasies & diatribes on the state of the Union.

Don’t get me wrong, he has done an admirable job of researching in order to supply facts to explain his opinions & has an index in case you want to look it up yourself, but that’s part of what makes this
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GNG37
I bought this book after looking at the high overall score it got, and after reading a few of the good reviews. How I wish I would have read some of the 1 star reviews before buying it!

This book is without a doubt the worst novel I have ever read in my life. Where to begin? First off, there is no real story involved here. There are probably 20 pages of blather in between every plot progression in the book. The plot will progress a little bit, then Rawles will spend the next 4 or 5 pages describi
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Nick
Anyone who voted for Obama would likely shred this for their cat's litter box. They are exactly the people who should read it, and do so while abstaining from political judgment. The novel's extremely strong qualities are: a) a decent intro to the mechanics of family or small group survival in the event of a catastrophic economic event (and folks if you don't think this is possible, watch the 'reality TV show' in production called 'My Big Fat Greek Economic Meltdown'), b) As extremely wooden as ...more
Cooperglocker
Jul 28, 2008 Cooperglocker rated it 4 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: Fortunetellers, Tarrot Card Readers, Employees of the Government.
Recommended to Cooperglocker by: I honestly cannot remember. I read a freeware version called Tr
This book is one of my favorite Scary future books because I don't really see us that far off. The dollar is obviously inflating. Our structure and "Just in time" delivery of food and materials means hospitals do not have a deep reserve of supplies necessary to treat a large number of victims in an emergency. This book also really highlights the big part of what is needed to seriously prepare for a major emergency of any sorts.

Now, I have 1 issue with the book (beside the fact that it's more ac
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David
1 star novel
2 star survival manual
4 star product catalog

as a novel, the characters are all exactly the same, the plot is stretched, and the clumsiness of it all hurts the eyes. as a survival manual, the actual skills involved tend to be sketchy at best, But this book truly shines as a product catalog for Rawles sponsors. I didn't count the number of times he talked of his characters doing something like: "taking a firearms course at frontsight training in california" or talking about "mountain h
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Nick
I had prepared a comprehensive review of this novel, complete with textual citations, so that I could thoroughly detail the deficiencies in the writing, the laziness in the plotting, and the general awfulness of the philosophy underlying it. However, after the concluding chapter, in which our plucky band of Christian survivalists overthrows the occupying UN army, restores the gold standard, and sends an army to liberate Europe from the socialists, I decided I've spent as much time as I can stand ...more
Brian Callahan
Nov 04, 2009 Brian Callahan rated it 1 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition
Recommended to Brian by: Greg Waldbieser
This book should appeal to survivalists and militia-types. Though I found some of the descriptions of weapons and equipment interesting at times, they became tedious as they went on and on. The dialogue was a bit "hokey" and lifeless. I can't remember the last time I used the word "yikes" in a real conversation.

The beginning of the story seemed somewhat plausible but it gradually became less and less believable. The civil war seemed very far-fetched. The characters were a bit too stereotypical
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Proud Mommy
What a very disappointing book!! For someone with so much knowledge this was an epic fail. I am all about a great prepping end of the wold book but this wouldn't even make my top 50 in this category. Besidesthe fact that he needs to fire or hire an editor due to the never ending errors it's unrealistic one dementional caracters. This was poor!
Derek
The story behind this book is interesting, but it is not written very well. It's about a group of friends who start preparing for the collapse of American society.

The editing is poor and the time line is messed up. This is most likely do to the fact that this is the third "incarnation" of this basic story, hastily updated to include Obama. For instance, when they met is nebulous because the author says that they met because of 9/11, but also that they met more frequently after 9/11. Both cannot
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Silly
A fictional novel about a group of survivalists, and what happens when the USA goes upside-down into anarchy due to a currency that becomes worthless.

When you read this book, realize it's purpose is more about survivalism and what to do in survival scenarios versus a fictional work of entertainment. Examples:

You learn repercussions to people's choices. Bad decisions upfront lead to hardship later. For example, at one point in the book, a guy can't trade his corvette to anyone for food, shoes, or
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Spencer
For those of you who dont know, I have a non-merman little brother as well. It seems just like yesterday when he was wearing diapers (to school). Anyways, he is the most noble of the Rosses, if only one of us can make it to heaven, it will with out a doubt be him. Proof? He has willingly left the U.S. to teach 1st world norms at a finishing school for the disadvantaged. Now I dont take book recommendations lightly, so when he mentioned Patriots, well, lets just say I "read" it. Here are some hig ...more
Simsian
Don't judge me, I would call it indulgence lit, but to be truthful, I am reading this novel for the practical knowledge and not for the entertainment value.
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Having finished the book with troves to say about it (little of it good), I would like to limit to just a small tirade. I went into the book knowing that it was a survivalist manual veiled as a post-apocalyptic world novel, so of course I expected mediocre characters, a plot-driven story and obviously biased politics. Despite th
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Robert
This was a good book that got a little heavy at times and almost read more like a survivalist manual than a novel at times. That being said there are some very disturbing points to be made about this book. The main point being the premise for the book, or the economic collapse that is told at the beginning of the book. This reads almost as if it is taken from the very headlines of todays newspapers. The other thing that is very disturbing is the amount of people that refuse to see that there is ...more
Jason Riou
Several reasons this gets only one star.

The characters are flat and uninteresting and, as others have pointed out, all the same.

Half of the book can be skipped without missing a thing. Lists and inventories and textbook-like summaries do not make for a good read.

It is an undisguised political fantasy. It is a sermon for the choir. You'll know by the first gunfight if the book is for you or not.

Still, it is compelling. I stuck around and I drop any book that is predictable or amateurish. I w
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Jack
This is a survival/preppers handbook couched around a storyline of a group of people who prepared for disasters.

The story takes us from an economic meltdown and collapse of the US Government and society itself, one of a number of possible scenarios that the protagonists prepared for, all the way to a Civil War to throw off a UN puppet tyrannical government and the eventual reformation of the United States. A plausible scenario given the current state of affairs with the trillions of dollar debt
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Stephen Gallup
This author is able to write compelling narrative. That's evident in the part of the story in which a simple traffic stop in North Carolina escalates into a situation in which excitable cops try to kill two startled guys who are guilty of no more than driving with expired vehicle registration and harboring unconventional views of their rights.

However, compelling narrative is not the author's objective. If you want excitement, you're going to have to skim past a lot of other stuff to find such pa
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Richard Hauser
As every other review has stated, this is a DIY prep manual in the guise of a work of fiction. It completes both tasks pretty well. I listened to the audio version and wish I had the paperback as I hear the appendix is chock full of useful data, as the author has obviously done a lot of research to complete the DIY portion of the book. The book is a little creepy at times, making several illogical leaps such as (vague spoilers coming) communism leads to cannibalism, only the religious can be tru ...more
Mary
(Writing this review as I read)

If this is "prepper porn", it's not very titillating. Waaay too much militant behavior! I'm all for protecting yourself and bearing arms and refusing the governments illegal overreach, but the cocky macho weapons attitude of these characters is not one I subscribe to.

Chapter 6-7 totally lost any small shred of credibility the book may have had. Hey fellas, I don't care if the government is wrong, out of bounds, and overstepping its authority and jurisdiction (and
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Sheehan
Well, its good "Apocalypse"-lit, rings true sounding enough, and clearly well-researched on the survival, guns and guerrilla stuff, but then it gets a bit preachy with the religion and the anti-federalist rhetoric...

I knew I was getting into bed with some gun-nuts picking up the book, but I didn't and still don't discount the useful examination on the what is important during and after a Crunch, how to survive and what might be useful as a thought exercise for planning.

It is an easy to engage te
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Mountainman91
Patriots is a good novel---and a good survival manual. The novelistic narrative sometimes suffers at the hands of the technical descriptions, though, and the focus is more on STUFF (preparation) than on survival skills.
I myself enjoy reading the author's daily blog (survivalblog.com) and have made some lifestyle/mentality changes since reading this book, but I am not much of a gun nut, and in James's estimation, would be less likely to survive than the heavily armed honcho on the cover.
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Cheryl
Basically a survivalist manifesto - what to do to survive an apocalyptic event - with a little bit of story wrapped around the details of which guns to purchase, how to gird your house with shutters and extra thick doors, etc. Mr Rawles seems to know his stuff, and has actually written a survival manual, which no doubt is great (I haven't read it). But as far as stories go, this one wasn't well written. The characters are caricatures, the detail is tedious, and the moral of the story seems to be ...more
Shane
Contrary to the assertions of many reviews, Patriots did have an editor.

I have acquired a draft of actual proofreading notes from the editor of Patriots.

I am not at liberty to say how I acquired these notes, or who delivered them to me, so don’t ask. Here are some representative quotes from those notes:

“I’m not seeing enough lists here. These lists are a literary goldmine. The reader will eat those up like Halloween candy. More lists!”

“The reader needs to know more about the character’s firear
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Joe
May 07, 2008 Joe rated it 5 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: Anybody interested in preparedness/survival
One of the absolute best preparedness/survivalist books on the market. After reading dozens of these type books, I keep going back to this one as a resource. Yes, the writing and story development are not the greatest. Further, the book has a bit of a "gun nut" "antigovernment" focus, which may be annoying to many. However, this book is packed with information and references - which is its primary intent. A great starting place for people interested in preparedness or survivalism.
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Rawles received a Bachelor of Arts degree from San Jose University. He served as a United States Army Military Intelligence officer from 1984 to 1993 and resigned his commission as a U.S. Army Captain immediately after Bill Clinton became President of the United States.

Rawles worked as an Associate Editor and Regional Editor (for the Western U.S.) with Defense Electronics magazine in the late 1980
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