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Bowl of Heaven (Bowl of Heaven #1)

3.18 of 5 stars 3.18  ·  rating details  ·  785 ratings  ·  160 reviews
In this first collaboration by science fiction masters Larry Niven (Ringworld) and Gregory Benford (Timescape), the limits of wonder are redrawn once again as a human expedition to another star system is jeopardized by an encounter with an astonishingly immense artifact in interstellar space: a bowl-shaped structure half-englobing a star, with a habitable area equivalent t...more
Hardcover, 416 pages
Published October 16th 2012 by Tor Books
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pg 111/412: Very traditional, Ringworld or Rendezvous with Rama-like sf novel. Should take me only 10 hours to read. Has got plenty of science, space, and aliens, but it's not bogged down in it. None of that singularity stuff.

pg 215/412: Hey, I'm halfway though. I just might finish this thing. Although it's more of a jungle story now that they're on the inner bowl surface. But there's still some interesting science that comes into play. A cool thing about this environment is different areas have...more
Four problems with this book series:

1. Each book should stand alone as a story - but this book is just an introduction that sets up the situation. And a pointlessly looooong introduction at that.

2. Ridiculous Action - A colony ship with thousands passengers and the captain decides to drive it up a dangerous plasma stream because its fun and faster? A ground crew is sent to INVADE the first ever encountered, clearly inhabited, alien ship with no recon or communications? And so on. Its impossible...more
<This wasn't as bad on the second read. A continuing sense of wonder and adventure, a rich and unimaginably huge playground full of aliens, and alien cultures and interesting tech. The story moves along with deepening sense and burgeoning understanding of what the Bowl is and was. Maybe I was just bummed the first time because the book stopped abruptly in an obvious publication split. The sequel is out, and I have it slotted, so all is forgiven. Upping the rating an extra star. It is quite ly...more
Donald Cook
Larry Niven's offerings often, since after the Ringworld series, have shown weakness in editing. It's always the same thing: events are written in one way, and then within about a page appear in rewritten form later.
But this book is so rife with error as to migrate a nuisance into a deep embarrassment. A character is captured by aliens @ p. 104, then reappears, patching up a wound at p. 106. This is the point where I got really tired of the sloppiness, not the sole example. Not to mention that...more
Denise Eggleston
I just finished reading “Bowl of Heaven” by Gregory Benford and Larry Niven. It should be noted that I won an advanced reading copy on First Reads program. I recommend this book, but with certain reservations. I’ll get to those in just a few paragraphs.

The “Bowl of Heaven” opens with a party on Earth. The crew and builders of a star ship are celebrating the incipient launch of the ship. In it, the crew, except for a rotating cadre of watchkeepers, will sleep for hundreds of years w...more
With Old School, Hard SF like this, the characterisation is not that subtle: 57% into the Kindle version, we get this gem: "Ayaan was an Arab woman who dressed in deck uniform like everyone else, but occasionally at dinner wore a stylish veil and glinting emerald earrings." Cannot forget the bling.

At 85% we get this wince-inducing moment: "Long silence. Terry glanced at Aybe, and Cliff suddenly remembered that one of them was gay. Which one? For the life of him, he could not remember. Damn! All...more
I had MUCH higher hopes for this book. It is, after all, co-written by two excellent novelists. Unfortunately, this does NOT show through. I found the writing actually bad at times, and confusing at others. Perhaps Mr. Benford and Mr. Niven did not talk to each other much while working on their sections to get their story straight. Way too many "wait.. what?" moments.
Two of the biggest stars in hard scifi get 3 Stars for Bowl of Heaven. Benford and Niven bring their unique imaginations to this tale of first contact/big-dumb-object/human interstellar colony ship/directed genetic evolution/and a couple other genres mixed in.

Humans are on their way to a new world, having ruined Earth in the "Age of Appetite" (that's us dummies right now). Just like in Alien, the ship comes upon an artifact in space...this one is an immense bowl using a star as a propulsion syst...more
Normally I enjoy reading about interplanetary exploration and the oddities of the universe- but Bowl of Heaven by Gregory Benford and Larry Niven was a struggle to read. To be honest, I really only enjoyed the first half- the rest of the book just fizzled under its own weight. It almost had a feeling like the authors started with a good idea but ultimately had difficulty working together.

Firstly, this book was filled with confusing and vaguely-described areas that seemed to depend mostly on the...more
Zack Subin
Shares a lot of plot features with the Ringworld, so followers of that series won't find it totally new, but it was still very thoughtful and enjoyable.
Shellie (Layers of Thought)
Original review by John posted at Layers of Thought.

John’s quick take: Grand science fiction ideas and an epic-scale story, but a disappointingly executed novel.

John’s description: An expedition sets off from Earth to explore a distant star system and to populate a (hopefully) Earth-like plant. The journey will take many decades and most of the travelers are put into a deep sleep while skeleton crews take it in turn to pilot the starship. But after just eighty years Cliff Kammash, one of the le...more
Shawn Dvorak
It's Ringworld, only in the shape of a bowl! Actually it's a different universe: no Puppeteers or General Products spaceships. Instead, a human ramship on one of mankind's first interstellar voyages encounters an immense bowl-shaped artificial world apparently headed towards the same star system as the humans. Not only is this world enormous, in feat of unimaginable engineering & technoloy, it's siphoning matter off of the star it surrounds, forming a huge Jet that propels it and the star th...more
I have not read either of these authors' independent work, so I cannot make any comparisons in that regard. I liked this book well enough to probably be suckered into waiting for the next in the series. However, I didn't buy this one (Go SPL!) and I won't buy the next one either because while I enjoyed Bowl of Heaven well enough to want to read the sequel, the books weren't that great. The main issue I had was the book's repetitiveness, its hollow characters and some obvious plot holes/mistakes...more
Nick Cato
Benford & Niven, two masters of "hard" scifi, kick off a new series dealing with the starship SunSeeker, launched from earth for a light-years-long journey to a mysterious, newly-discovered planet that has been named 'Glory.' But when fuel concerns bring the mission into question, the ship's captain allows a chosen few to be awoken from their sleep chambers to help deal with the problem.

The crew then discover a gigantic, bowl-shaped artifact on basically the same course as themselves. They d...more
Dec 27, 2012 J. rated it 2 of 5 stars
Shelves: own
This book had a good beginning. It had a lower rating than most of the books I listen to, which made me nervous, but I needed my space sci-fi fix. The pacing was good, especially compared to the last few space books I've read, which were by Alastair Reynolds with his almost unbearably slow set ups.

I should say the pacing was good right up to the point that Larry Niven/Gregory Benford dozed off and forgot to write an ending. Seriously. The book just stops mid-story with nothing resolved. Don't re...more
Will Maddox
Well, the first portion of the book got my attention and reeled me in. That was pretty much it. The rest of the novel truly sucked. I mean, truly, truly sucked. The main characters discover this spaceship that's using a star to power it, which means the space ship is truly massive, like the size of a solar system. Ok, this could be interesting. So they land at the front door and these giant chicken type aliens come out acting all friendly, then suddenly attack and start taking people prisoner. O...more
David King
"Bowl of Heaven" is a science fiction novel created collaboratively between Gregory Benford & Larry Niven. As both these authors are known as masters of the genre I was looking forward to reading it even though I have never actually read a novel by either of them before. What I found, was a hard science fiction novel, full of exposition and mystery that I found both interesting and intriguing.

The story itself follows the Sunseeker, a new starship that is aiming to traverse the cosmos to colo...more
In the midst of their voyage, a troubled colony ship encounters a strange object, a bowl shaped structure half-enclosing a star, with a surface area many times that of the Earth. The ship’s crew decides to investigate, both out of curiosity & in hope of restocking their dwindling supplies. Of course the landing party encounters problems, with half being captured while the other half are hunted across the Bowl.

Early in their adventures, a group encounters a large animal emerging from water....more
Tom Gregorio
Excellent book, didn't realize until the last page that it WAS the last page, something one does not catch when reading e-books!

In a nutshell, this is a hard science fiction, first alien encounter, constructed world saga of the best kind. If I hadn't already read the Ringworld series I probably would have given this a fifth star, too much of the story was derivative or predictable. The plot moves along, different perspectives are provided (including alien), and the provided diagrams helped make...more
I've been trying to pinpoint what genre this is, and it suddenly hit me: It's the Flash Gordon genre! (Sorry, I just had to add that to my review)
Was expecting more from a killer Bee. Rather unimaginative, no mind bending concepts (other than in scale) and not much science either. More of an adventure set in a somewhat odd environment. If this ever made it to the silver screen, I'd see it as a Saturday double feature matinée followed by Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom.
I put this together...more
Kai Schreiber
As flawed as this is, and as much as I suspected to be disappointed, I felt entertained.

The critics have it right, the characters are cardboard, the plot is nonexistent, for a hard-SF setup, there is an embarassing number of gaffes, and the clichés, repetition and bad editing are a problem -- personally, I was most annoyed by the constant conflation of flight time with earth time in terms of the experience of the astronauts. Makes no sense -- but I didn't much care. Mostly, this is an exotic wil...more
Felt like "Ringworld" meets "Rendezvous with Rama" but with very little of the wonder that made those classics. If you haven't read them, this might be a much more interesting read for you. Interesting mostly for the hard sci-fi concepts/thought experiments it puts out there, less so for the character interaction or plot action. I didn't find the world the authors have created to be super engaging, but I kept reading hoping that I would get swept up in it. I never really did, though. Biggest pro...more
Peter Goodman

“Bowl of Heaven,” by Gregory Binford and Larry Niven (Tor, 2012). Turns out this is the beginning of another series (which I didn’t realize until it didn’t come to an end). The concept is not unfamiliar: humans fairly far into our future, having begun to colonize some relatively distant worlds and having saved Earth from global warming, prepare a massive vessel, Starseeker, to voyage hundreds of years toward a promising earth-type world called Glory. It’s similar in many ways to Clarke’s Rendezv...more
Christopher Odegard
Larry Niven is one of the great imaginations in science fiction. His early works—most collectively known as the Tales of Known Space—are some of the best science fiction works of the latter part of the twentieth century. As with this novel, Niven has coauthored works a few times with Gregory Benford, whose work I have no other context for.

The scope of this novel is astounding. The setting is a world a little like the Ringworld and the Fleet of Planets have a baby. The actual action, the charact...more
I was expecting some Ringworld stuff but instead get a boring, badly edited textbook.

Characters are so one dimensional and indistinguishable that you really do not care which one is currently narrating, they all read the same. There is no protagonist that you can identify with. There are lots of meaningless repetitions like "dry wood does not smoke" this phrase is sprinkled through the book at least ten times.

Here comes another disappointment, aliens in this book are only alien by their looks....more
I don't really read hard science fiction, but this one I really liked. From the description of it, my husband says it's similar to Larry Niven's Ringworld, and from the characters it's similar to Gregory Benford's Mission to Mars, which I've read. Both authors apparently have left their mark on the story.

It does sort of just end in the middle of things though. There will be a sequel, but it's like they wrote a long book and then just cut it in half to publish two.
Mar 25, 2014 Ryan rated it 2 of 5 stars
Shelves: sci-fi
I started the book excited by the premise, and finished disappointed.

A large research team of humans are on their way to study a planet in the habitable zone of a star named Glory (Manifest Destiny anyone?). On their way their they cross paths with another alien spaceship. The expected interspecies misunderstandings occur, and our protagonists spend the rest of the book as the mice in a cat and mouse game.

As generic as that sounds, Benford and Niven do something things I've haven't yet read - wh...more
I should start off by saying I have a real soft spot for the Big Dumb Object section of the sci fi bookshelf. I’ve happily lost myself exploring the wonders found in Clarke’s “Rendezvous With Rama” and Bear’s “Eon,” where the dramatic tension is all “let’s see what’s around this next (really big) corner”.

But “Bowl of Heaven” just didn’t do it for me. Sure the BDO IS impressive but the characters are either barely drawn out, or, in the case of the few that are, not very compelling. The action seq...more
Jan 17, 2014 Jon rated it 2 of 5 stars
Shelves: sci-fi
This is one of those books I just grabbed from the library shelf not really doing any research into it. I didn't realize it was from the same author as Ring World or I would never have gotten it. The first third of the book is fairly entertaining. It's a world building book exploring grand engineering on a solar system scale. The characters are unbelievable and the story is very slow. It's full of interesting science, but once the charm of that is gone, there really isn't anything left. When th...more
Radi Radev
Една от любимите ми книги в жанр криминална фантастика е "Смърт в екстаз" от Лорънс Ван Кон Нивън (Лари Нивън). Сборникът бе изключително приятен и вдъхновяващ. Още тогава ми направиха впечатление сериозните научни познания и прогнози на автора - спомняте ли си тъпокуба, или донорите? По-късно и "Пръстенов свят" затвърди убеждението ми, че Лари Нивън умее да пише образно казано като един палав и динамичен Артър Кларк. Не съм чел нищо по-дълго от Грегъри Бенфорд освен разкази, но реших да се запо...more
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Gregory Benford is an American science fiction author and astrophysicist who is on the faculty of the Department of Physics and Astronomy at the University of California, Irvine.

As a science fiction author, Benford is best known for the Galactic Center Saga novels, beginning with In the Ocean of Night (1977). This series postulates a galaxy in which sentient organic life is in constant warfare wit...more
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