Midst Toil and Tribulation (Safehold, #6)

Midst Toil and Tribulation (Safehold #6)

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After centuries of stasis, the island kingdom of Charis began to defy the edicts of the Church of God Awaiting—egged on, some say, by the mysterious warrior-monk Merlin Athawes. Now, in the wars and intrigues that have cascaded from Charis's declaration of independence, the populous Republic of Siddermark is sliding into chaos. Vicar Clytahn of the Church of God at harvest...more
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Published September 18th 2012 by Tor Books
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Mary Holland
I enjoyed this very much, but I'm a big David Weber fan. This is part 6 of a series and if you haven't read the previous 5, please don't start here. This one is more tightly plotted than some of his others and has more action and less discursive/rambling moral agonizing by the principal characters. The technology development and introduction of iron ships and steam power is the star here, and Weber does it very well. Reading reviews of his work can be very funny: we love them, we see the problem...more
Marius
I continue to be a fan of the Safehold Series but I have to admit that there is an undertow to the series that feels a bit like filler right now. That said, I did enjoy this book for the simple reason that we are entering a somewhat darker period over this book (and the last) than has characterized the series heretofore.

In this book we continue to learn a lot about the mainland realms....their geography, economy, demographics and so on. The Army of God is marching steadily across one of the mai...more
Wes
Subtitle should read: "The one in which nothing happens"

Have you read any of the other books in this series? Particularly #s 4 & 5? If so, you have read this one. What a complete and utter disappointment. Not only could 25% of it be edited out, in terms of it just being a better book, but you could literally sum up the information that advances the plot in about four or five VERY brief bullet points. If anyone wants to save themselves the pain of slogging through this book, but wants to know...more
David
The sheer weight of this series is wearing me down, but the next book won't be out for another six months, so I have some time to do other things now. The story is moving along now, and it looks like there is an end to the war that has ravaged Safehold--but it is still in the future. Even if the Empire of Charis wins, the human race will still face a difficult time as it comes to terms with what has been done to it by the people who created the great lie that is the Church of God Awaiting. The G...more
Julia
Jan 20, 2013 Julia rated it 2 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition Recommends it for: military fiction afficianados
I don't know why I tried to finish this (although I ultimately did finish it). I've been reading the series because I generally like David Weber, but he dealt with the concept of a technologically stunted society with religious domination much better in Heirs of Empire which is a single book.

Midst Toil and Tribulation went through five months, covering the battles in detail - how many soldiers on each side, what weapons each side had, whether the military leader knew what was coming...
There were...more
Annette
Like most Weber books lately, I spent the first 150 pages desperately trying to get back into the story, and the last 350 genuinely wrapped up in the action - and the last page both surprised that it was over (a hefty - and necessary - apendix adds 30 or more pages to the book) and anoyed that it would be another year or more before I learn what happens next.
All the standard Weber frustrations apply: he is Too Wordy By Half. And most of his characters are too Good by half. A lot of page count i...more
Tom Gregorio
Another painful read. The signal to noise ratio is so low on this series now but I feel I must plow on. Don't worry, though, I certainly didn't pay for this godawful piece of tripe. As noted previously, Weber is just dialing it in at this point. The only thing more long-winded than his prose at this point is the philisophical meanderings of his characters: Not only must we not what person A thinks of topic 1, we need to hear in detail how and why they think that along with the thoughts of all th...more
Keith
"Great But Bad Choice for Narrator" Overall Performance Story I just enjoy David Weber's story telling. This for me is an epic story at its best. David shows us a war between good and evil, but which side is good and which side is evil. The author lets you decide for yourself.

Kevin Collins was a poor choice to narrate this book. Not that Kevin did a bad job, he brought about to much change to the book. First off I have gotten used to the narrators to the other five books. There were three other...more
Peter
I have either read or listened to all the other books in this series and mostly enjoyed them. I have tried to listen to the audiobook of this, but it is appallingly read. The reader inflects vast tracts with with over-the-top, breathy portent in an 'oh my god, isn't this just so terrible/exciting/important' tone that made me think I was accidentally channelling a local high school drama class. Added to that, Weber is now very much guilty of the excruciating 'padding' that multi-volume authors of...more
Nathan
First off, let me say that I'm greatly enjoying the Safehold series (almost as much as I enjoy the Honor Harrington novels). With that said, the story is beginning to get lost in the titanic struggle between the Church of God Awaiting and the Charis Empire. The land war that was kicked off in the last novel is fully developing in this novel and due to the widespread destruction it seems that very little of note occurs in the entire novel.

Character development was less in this book than in prior...more
Ted
Oct 04, 2012 Ted rated it 1 of 5 stars
Shelves: sci-fi
I recently wrote a review of Weber's "A Rising Thunder" which stated how I felt the book was a waste of time. Here is my first paragraph: "I think David Weber has reached the breaking point. "A Rising Thunder" is continuing a trend that I find distasteful -- the stretching of a multi-book storyline to a point where the reader no longer cares. In my opinion this book should have been condensed to maybe three chapters and put at the beginning of his next Honorverse book -- one that I hope puts an...more
Ray
This one I liked least.
The Sharleyn and Caleb relationship was just a rehash of the last few books as was pretty much all of the interaction.
The rational Merlin uses to not use his abilities to make a huge difference is simply not believeable.
He sets the future up by mentioning the people with lower technology will be more innovative.
Of course with what they are already doing Charisians should be able to destroy the church technologically,where are the machine guns,they are behind what they are...more
Jeff
This is the sixth book in the series (so if you haven't read the first five, start there).

Let me start by saying that although I'm a fan of Weber's I stopped reading the Honor Harrington series around book 5 or 6. I am also a fan of military science fiction, especially the type that (a) has good characterization,(b) doesn't lecture me on how conservative or libertarian ideology is the only way to go, and (c) has something interesting to say. David Drake, John Hemry, and David Weber are three of...more
Cris
When I was a child I loved to read. I treasured the sensation of being swept away to another time and place. I adored being other people. And even when I wasn't actively reading my head was full of previous adventures that I re-lived or adapted into new ones.

Now it's much rarer for me to find books that consume me that way. I don't know if it's a result of growing up or a commentary on the differences between books for children and those written for adults.

But Weber can still provide the experie...more
Liviu
After a somewhat disappointing HFAF - had some great some stuff and the last 100 pages were very, very good, but a lot of repetition - I was wondering if somehow DW's decision to change Safehold series focus from a multi-generational saga leading to the final confrontation to the Gbaba (afaik that was the original pitch of the series) to a series focused on the transformation of Safehold in detail, so with each volume spanning a year or less and covering all the facets of the titanic struggle be...more
Shannon
How funny to read the kvetching about the inner struggles of this series' characters. Frankly, the technical stuff bores me (Charisian's rifles, which are not smooth-bored...aargh, now even my puns are filled with technical drivel!), and its the inner individual struggles for each. Disparate lay placed character that I find most intriguing.

And here's a nugget: "Never underestimate the power of the right sort of anger." Tats food for thought, which is what I really want from my books.

All you hos...more
Jeffrey

David Weber's "Safehold" science fiction series has now hit 6 volumes. The previous novel in this series, "How Firm a Foundation" was a huge disappointment because it was bogged down in political machinations and maneuvering. The last 100 pages of that volume were good, but barely saved the book from the dust bin of history. This would have been an ignoble ending to a great science fiction series concept - what happens if a technologically advanced future human (in this case a cyborg) had to jum...more
John
Oct 02, 2012 John rated it 3 of 5 stars
Shelves: scifi
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Serge
How often do you shrug?

David Weber is a prolific writer. In fact, he is almost as fecund as Alexander Dumas père was, now that I think about it. For that matter, Dumas père was much less fertile, considering his numerous assistants and collaborators, at any rate. He, David Weber, that is, has interesting stories to tell, the problem, though, is how he tells them. Probably every writer has his own favorite words or even expressions, for that matter. But Weber takes it to stratospheric level. His...more
Daniel Hamad
Possibly the best book in this series... or book by David Weber in general... yet. His story telling continues to improve and the mass of characters in these books makes sense. The scope continues to increase without overwhelming you. He also has not rushed this series to completion. I have no idea how many books are going to be in it by the end, but he certainly has not artificially limited himself like so many others.
William Bentrim


Midst Toil And Tribulation by David Weber

This is the fifth book in the Safehold series. A planet lost from an alien intelligence that has wiped out mankind except for Safehold.

The corrupt theocracy continues to fight to hold power. Instigating civil war and denying all progress it still manages to trumpet it’s godliness.

The breadth of this saga is amazing. As Cayleb, Sharleyan and Merlin struggle to save enemies and friends alike, the church’s treachery goes on unabated.

Weber’s characters are...more
Steven Bragg
In general, David Weber's works are extremely pleasant reading, and I really like the general concept for the Safehold Series. However, as the conflict between good and bad begins to cover the entire planet, this book has become much more unwieldy than its predecessors. Also, there is a great deal of multi-page angst by several of the principal characters that could have been dealt with in a sentence or two (or perhaps just a grimace), along with more preaching than an action book should have. T...more
Barbara
Weber's ongoing Safehold saga now tackles the horrors of a War of Religion. Armies are fighting back and forth over the mainland Republic of Siddermark. It is winter and the threat of starvation for millions of people--both Republican Loyalists and Temple adherents (known, somewhat confusingly, as the rebels).

The Empire of Charis sends not only food, but an army and lots of new-fangled weapons.
The bulk of the book recounts the various relief missions and the fighting in a number of the Siddermar...more
Kate
NOVEL STATUS: DID NOT FINISH
CAUSE: SEVERE FANTASY NAME SYNDROME

SAMPLE SYMPTOMS:
- "Zhasyn"; "Zahmsyn"; "Zhaspahr" [yes, those are 3 different characters]
- "Lywys Gardynyr"
- "Ehdwyrd Howsmyn"
- "Ahbsahlahn Kharmych"
- "Greyghor Stohnar"
- "Wahlys"
- "Domynyk"
- "Bryahn"
- "Cayleb"
- "Allayn"
- "Thomys"
- "Archbishop Wyllym"
- "Bishop Executor Wyslynn Lainyr"
- "Father Saimyn"
- "Princess Irys Zhorzhet Mahra Daykyn"
- "Prince Daivyn"
- "the Earl of Charlz"
- "Sir Ahlfyd Hyndryk"
- "General Sir Kynt Clareyk, Baron...more
John Hill
I am thoroughly engrossed in the series and am a little bummed because this is the first novel in the series that I have had to wait for the next book to be released.

A lot has changed in this novel, and very little of the action actually takes place at sea. In fact, most of it takes place in Siddmark and there is very little seen of Caleb and Sharylen, especially towards the end of the novel.

The battles focus more on land based Army actions and this novel really seemed to ring of the American C...more
Steven
I have given this book four stars, giving the author the benefit of the doubt out of respect and admiration. I like David Weber's books. I always have. My experience with this book was a three-star experience, but that's not Weber's fault.

You see, I received this book as an ARC (advanced reader copy). Yes it was an uncorrected proof, and clearly labeled as such, but the editing lapses were so minor as to be a complete non-issue. The reason I struggled with this book is because it is Book 6 in a...more
Kim Conde
David Weber is arguably one of the best authors in this genre. I have great respect for his work and have read all the books in this series including "Midst Toil and Tribulation". The problem with this series and this book in particular is that most of the book is superfluous soap-boxing by the author. It drags on for page after page and chapter after chapter. Although I enjoy good character development, devoting multiple books and hundreds of pages to it is just tedious and makes for a ponderou...more
John Teehan
*sigh* This is a good and engaging series (particularly if you're familiar with the author's style and know how to skim the tedious parts and focus on the character and plot developments) but I was really hoping this was going to be the last book in the series. Does he know how to end a series? Really. It's exhausting. I'm not sure if I have it in me to read the next book. I so want to see the bad guys their proper come-uppance, but c'mon.

Points for great characters. Half points taken away for...more
Robert Woodman
Oct 27, 2012 Robert Woodman rated it 5 of 5 stars Recommends it for: anyone who likes science fiction.
For those unfamiliar with David Weber's Safehold series (published by Tor), the storyline is that humanity in the year 2421, facing certain and complete annihilation from an alien race known as the Gbaba, secreted a group of humans off Earth (the remaining planets of the Terran Federation having all been utterly destroyed) to a planet named Safehold. The humans were to remain there in a primitive lifestyle for several hundred years until the Gbaba reasonably would believe that humans had been de...more
M_lithographica
I just finished the latest Safeholdian series book by Weber. While I'm still royally pissed at the wreck that was _A Mighty Fortress_, and I'm still pissed that Weber made a decision to put a character in a gender swap role and pretty much completely ignore the psychological effects the character should be having beyond a token moment or two that doesn't amount to anything, at least it's getting fun to read again. Of course all the characters are 2D cutouts anyway and the story is mostly copypas...more
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David Mark Weber is an American science fiction and fantasy author. He was born in Cleveland, Ohio in 1952.

Many of his stories have military, particularly naval, themes, and fit into the military science fiction genre. He frequently places female leading characters in what have been traditionally male roles.

One of his most popular and enduring characters is Honor Harrington whose alliterated name...more
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