The Forge of Darkness (The Kharkanas Trilogy #1)
It's a conflicted time in Kurald Galain, the realm of Darkness, where Mother Dark reigns. But this ancient land was once home to many a power. and even death is not quite eternal. The commoners' great hero, Vatha Urusander, is...more
Whoa, we've got the ancient crew here. Draconus is the main character. Mother Dark is still a Tiste altho she has been to the gate so has transcended with power but she isn't a goddess until the end. She's lost in her darkness, reveling in it and having great sex with Draconus. Her children are dividing over this, they don't like Draconus. And who i...more
First, a paragraph from the book:
"That said, he knew that he was a poor teacher. He wove his
histories as if they were inventions, disconnected and not
relevant. Worse, he preferred the sweeping wash of colour to
obsessive detail, ineffable feeling over intense analysis, possibility
over probability; he was, by any measure, a dreadful historian."
Oh the irony!
Apparently what Steven Erikson finds dreadful in a historian, I cherish in a fantasy writer. Let...more
Now is the time to tell the story of an ancient realm, a tragic tale that sets the stage for all the tales yet to come and all those already told... It's a conflicted time in Kurald Galain, the realm of Darkness, where Mother Dark reigns. But this ancient land was once home to many a power. and even death is not quite eternal. The commoners' great hero, Vatha Urusander, is being promoted by his followers to take Mother Dark's hand in marriage, but her Consort, Lord Draconus, stands in the way of...more
That’s not to say Erikson isn’t a good writer, because he is. His command of the voices of the various characters, and the narrator, is superb, and his ability to create characters with depth and texture is also way above average. The problem for me, thou...more
Structurally, this seems to be a real change from how Erikson wrote all of the MBoF. In that series, even though there were continuing storylines, each book seemed to be more self-contained, with climaxes built into each volume. So, for exam...more
Forge of Darkness is an intricate tale of dissolution of a society through unintentional conflict between dithering characters. Highly reminiscent of how World War 1 started (No one _really_ wanted to fight then either), it’s a story of how one thing can lead to another. For all the bitter irony, however, the book has greater depth and solidity than MBoF.
...chances events piled upon each other that lead the Tiste realm to civil war are enmeshed so realistica...more
Let's just get this out of the way first - this ends exactly how you'd expect and Erikson/Malazon book to end.
Lots of parent/child stuff going on here, especially father/son (Draconus/Arathan & Urusander/Osserc). Really good story. Definitely slow to start with the expected barrage of dozens of new gibberish names. It sucked me in by about 200 pages. Even at the end I have no idea who half the characters are. Nor do I care. That's part of the magic!!
2/3 of the way in, g...more
Apart from the confusing and unnecessary wealth of characters, the lumbering plot, the multitudes of POVs that add very little to the plot, it is a mostly a collection of self-aggrandizing and pseudointellectual sophistry. If complexity of language was a measure of great literature we should surely enjoy dictionaries a lot more.
To be fair I would not mind the number characters if their povs had any persona...more
Any sort of prequel has an inherent weakness - we know how the story is going to end. This is a big deficit for a writer like Erikson, whose strength lies in his f...more
The thing about his books is that they make me care about pretty much every character, no matter how small a part they play. (There are a few exceptions: Envy, Spite, Malice a...more
Steven Erikson brings to bear on his new trilogy, prequel to the Malazan Book of the Fallen, the same quiet mastery of tragedy that is a highlight of his work. If tragedy is catharsis however, this series is the prelude to catharsis - this is the wounding itself!
Fans will find many answers, and many more questions. The Elder Gods, Darkness and Light, Chaos and the Dragons, and many characters that lurked mostly in the background of the m...more
Unique in the realm of prequels, this book can be read by fans of the other Malazan books or by readers new to the series. So I will try to articulate what both groups ought to expect from this tal...more
What can I say about Erikson's shit that I haven't said before?
That y'all fuckers need to stop reading your YA and your classics and your ironic shit and read some Malazan goodness?
That I don't understand how this fucker its not on those fancy award winning lists?
Fuck! This is fucking brilliant! So many questions answered only to raise twice as many! !
Anomander will come to understand that you cannot control anything
Andarist will known grieve.
Silchas still scares me.
It’s an astoundingly good book. Go buy it immediately!
Fans of Shakespeare should love this book, it is alive with complex, wry and theatrical dialog. Everyone talks like this, from common foot soldiers to the leaders of the nobility. Everyone argues about and reflects upon philosoph...more
That is, perhaps, the main criticism I have. Having so many important characters from the epic Malazan series also involved in the events of a story set 3...more
1: Being Vague, rambling plot with no little believable storyline
5: Ripping yarn, clever, thought provoking
Wow, just Wow!
I have to admit, that when I heard that the first of the ‘new’ stories was going to be based on early Kharakas and Mother Dark I was disappointed and started reading with some trepidation. I am not a big fan of the Tiste Andii or Liossen, I really don’t like Anomander Rake (yes, really, I don’t) and prequels, regardless how far back to the beginning are never my fav...more
Flagged as a prequel this story is set thousands of years before the Malazan books proper and tells the tale of the Tiste people and the civil war that sundered a realm. More reminiscent of Martin's Game of Thrones then Erikson's previous work - and yet totally different to GoT at t...more
Nonetheless, though this first book of three is apparently set hundreds of years before the Malazan series,...more
However, there are certain discrepancies with Tiste lore as it was previously described during the Book of the Fallen, but you end up with the sensati...more
If you're thinking of reading this book you're one of two people. 1 you've enjoyed the Malazan universe immensly, and can't wait to delve into this new arc. Or, you've heard great things about this epic, and are a little intimidated about getting into these massive volumes.
If you're in this second group it seems to be a great place to start. There's just as much history, and mystery built into the Tiste era, and if anything Erikson's writing skills are more polished, this time ar...more
As typical for Erikson the novel goes far beyond the concept of characters, plot and setting. Often characters are just invented to present a philosophi...more
Steven Erikson weaves an ancient form of storytelling in this book. While reading it, I imagined I've picked up the a book parallel to the Odessey of his world. The dialogue is epic, the characters are larger t...more
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